wdym carry? Cant call someone a carry if they lose the game

@@gamemarker268 wdym can't carry? maybe he kept us in the game? just use your brain

Or take medal away from Swedes if the NHL stars had so hard time to beat basic liga players?

@@gamemarker268 Larmi kept them in the game. If he hadn't brought his A-game it would easily been 7 or 8 - 0. I guess we didn't watch the same game or you simply struggle a bit with understanding it.

@@azynkron Agree that larmi plays the match very well, but you can't say that someone solo carried when you lose the game

Tack så mycket!

as a Finn this was the first game I bothered to see. Didnt expect much, but proud of the guys for getting it to OT late! better team absolutely won, but we had a chance to steal this one. rooting for you, lots of NHL legends on that Swedish team!

Congratulations Sweden! It was so deserved. I hope we will get a bit stronger team to the championship next year 😂

@@TheOxux So Canes/Panthers and dallas out in round 1 2025? sounds fine to me lmao. Not my Avs tho, I need another cup after getting screwed by nichuskin twice in a row..

Agreed, this was the game i feared most. Sure, all teams that are still in the tournament now deserves respect but Finland can sometimes be like kryptonite for Sweden. Having checked this box is a great hurdle passed in pursuit of gold

swedes are toxic to us abt this

It was easy

@@Aria432 Yea easy for Finland but referees ruined it

@@turdeemi cope

@@turdeemi cope harder.

@@Evilminiature Nah check the penalty from OT

but sweden was better who cares

​@@leftymhpYou missed the point.

@@leftymhp Nah, teams were equal, thanks to Larmi. Referees gave the win to Swe

What you mean a fight? Finland only played passive and yes i can agree that Larmi played well. Its just so sad that the level of the players is so much better in Sweden

@@muti7632 you are comparing Finnish Liga players to NHL players..

Это не нации, эти две марионетки лижут задницу Америке и радуются этому и ещё гордятся.

Finland är svenskt

@@teo2263 пиши по русски

@@teo2263never

@@user-sk3sf9uw5b gtfoh focus on improving your living standards, and not be a war coward like many of you are.

Великая хоккейная нация СССР!!!

While Finnish game hasn't been the best, Sweden wasn't actually overwhelmingly better because of their previous wins. Group A was clearly better group this year, since Sweden was the only country from group B that made it through. USA, Germany and Slovakia were all dropped by group A teams. And Sweden only won because of wrongly judged penalty. Helenius' stick never touched Swedish player's hand, it was very clear. That judge mistake was the reason Sweden got a goal. Would they have won anyway? Possible, but we'll never know.

@@user-hx7rs6kh6n Finland wasn't part of the USSR.

@@molotovribbentrop2839 With an aggressive Putin on their border, you never know what might happen. This was exactly why Finland (and Sweden) joined Nato.

​@@user-hx7rs6kh6n... СССР уже давно история. А вот Канада, Швеция, Финляндия, Чехия, США... были и остаются хоккейными нациями. Речь о настоящем и будущем.

Varför är du förvånad? Det är Finland, självklart kommer de kämpa in i det sista mot Sverige!

I was amazed too because those Finns didn't take their NHL stars and tried with the basic liga players. Next time they should take their NHL stars

Played better with less NHL players.

@@edonveil9887 Finland did not play better. The only reason it was not a one sided game is the beast of a goalie performance from Larmi. He was stopping everything. Only period Finland showed up in was 3rd. Unfortunate and very cheap penalty on Finland in OT and Sweden got one past the Monster in Fins net

And iˋm very surprised how sweden wins just because referees helps them

It was a terrible call. Not the only easy penalty for Finland either but that one was ridiculous.

if not swiss referee much worse austrian or american referees. These referees were unable to give penalties to the swedes: holdings, interferences, Felaktig dom på svenska- Domaren var rädda för att finlands skulle vinna och hjälpte NHL-spelaren. Domarfars.

Löjligt. Svenskarna var nervösa och behövde hjälp. Jag sa innan matchen att nåt speciellt av domarna skulla hända och de hände igen .

penalty was ridicious

The worst call all night was the one Swedish penalty. Apparently, a perfectly normal hit on the puck carrier counts as tripping.

​@@Merecirworst call was hooking penalty for Helenius in OT that literally gave the victory to Sweden and there was no hooking/slashing etc to even be called on the situation. Also that penalty for Sweden was called for hit that missed and only sweeped legs under Finnish player. It was just as soft call as few of those that were called on Finland previously and there were atleast 4 swedish penalties missed so I kinda see it as fair judgement.

@@Merecir The worst was the OT-penalty. The Finns compained and the referee supervisor admitted it was a wrong call but said things like that happens

​@@MerecirIf you hit, hit the body not clip the skates

About 4 uncalled penalties to swedes (holdings, hooks, and holding of the stick) and 1 uncalled to Finland Some soft calls on Finn's especially the ot one. It was appalling.

You're absolutely right that one should never count out Finland in any game. Also, I think that the NHL highly underrate Finnish players. I can only recall three Finnish players in the HoF.

Sweden lacked teamplay at some points

@@heh9392 Yes, you could see them a bit too,

Sweden deserved the victory and now I'm rooting for Sweden to win the gold. Greetings from Finland

hes 27 not some talented rookie goalie.

Nah it was pretty clear tbf

💯% you are right

​@@ericp758Haha of course its clear if your Swedish. The most deluded, toxic fanbase in the world, bar none.

@@ericp758 After the match Jukka asked the referees to admit their mistake that it shouldn't have been a penalty as the stick never touched the attackers glove and only stick, but the referees didn't give any admitting even after reviewing the footage back. They truly are just sucking those NHL players butts

​@@ericp758clear what?

Ye, the brother’s rivalry!

It was a really bad game for Finland. The coach is getting so much critic right now for not taking NHL stars and focused on Finnish and Swedish liga players.

I never believed in victory especially because the only decent player and captain was gone (Granlund), Sweden deserved the win (awesome tournament so far). The Finnish coach made mistake for not letting NHL players in and it really showed in a tournament. It's impossible to win with liga team and that kind of team deserves to lose. Now I'm rooting for Sweden and hoping they win the gold.,

@@RockerFinland Thank you! Yeah, I believe Sweden mostly dominated period 1 and 2 - after that we started to get stressed out when we couldn't get through Larmi and the tight finnish defense. Sweden had everything to prove, both being the favorites and not reaching the semis since 2018, so in period 3 I could see a difference. Especially after scoring the 1-0 goal - Sweden started playing extremely defensively and thought we could just "play off" the last 4 minutes - which we got punished for. All in all I think it was a deserved win, but Finland definitely had momentum in the last period. With Granlund and without that OT penalty I wouldn't have been surprised if you'd won.

Good game but a stupid decision by referee in the ot.

Doesn’t matter, spelar ingen rol ( 😕 ), anyways lycka till finalmatchen, hoppas att ni ska vinna 👍

I agree, it was a miracle how much potency he got from those liga players (they all played beyond of their capacity). Sadly, the coach got some critics in Finnish headlines for not taking the Finnish NHL-stars in. I'm rooting for the Sweden now, Sweden is always my second favourite team if Finland is out. I think Sweden has played amazing tournament and it deserves the gold.

First one that I see actually giving some praise to Jalonen. Yes these last two years were bad but the years before that were some of the best in Finland's history. Unbelievable coach who's era is now done

Finland is an absolute giant in ice hockey. You will be back next time. Already looking forward to seeing Finland in the next tournament! GG and greetings from Slovakia.

Well played Sweden, though referees were horrible. If Sweden had gotten penalties as easy as Finland the match could've ended completely different

Its how its supposed to end, Finland is always destined to lose to Sweden. Sorry.

@@skrallan100 It doesn't seem like that. When was the last time Sweden was even in the semis? Finland is currently 2nd in the IIHF-rankings (lost its first place to Canada last year). Sweden is 6th in the IIHF-ranking.

@@skrallan100 Then you have been living in a dream past years...

they can't embarrass their referees who they pay money for

They can't, it would be very embarassing to show the "hooking"

Hey IIHF can't make themselves look bad on their own YT channel xD

Or you can learn the rules since it hit the glove making it a pen

ei pysty, liian hapokasta.

Yeah but I want to make it clear that Sweden only had like 2 high danger scoring chances before OT because the huge defence effort and all the blocks. It was amazing game from Larmi but the best defence of any team on any game in this tournament made it possible

Or then the Swedish NHL-players should have just scored. Larmi is just a basic liga goalie.

Larmi not basic liiga goalie​@@RockerFinland

@@Nalleteus Still, Larmi plays in the Swedish liga. There were a lot of NHL players available but they didn't use them. It was a crucial mistake

Larmi is playing in a top tier team in the best league in europe 😂​@@RockerFinland

No the referee was ;-)

​@@pekkasiren4532Take the loss with some dignity. Crying all over the place. It's clear to anyone that Sweden played a lot better. And that the Finns fought long and hard with a goalie that was spectacular.

@@shade84342 Two things can be true at the same time... Sweden was the better team (as expected), and with someone else at the Finnish goal it would have been over a lot sooner. Doesnt negate that the refs completly ignored obvious penalties for the Swedes, and decided the match on OT.

@@pekkasiren4532 DEN GLIDER IN !!!

@@manumainio3451 Not sure where you got the idea that I said those two things were not true simultaneously. Refs are humans after all, wrong calls will be made. Sometimes in your favor, sometimes not.

As a Sweden, of course I think it was a penalty. Regardless, your goalie played phenomenally! Great game.

@@raindropsonthewindowsill5170 yes Larmi played unbelievably

tbf at 1-1 you had a player swimming in our goalies zone .. should been whistled before you scored

No penalty.​@@raindropsonthewindowsill5170

​@@lakabaka sweden player Hit with stick Puljujärvi and he fell and go goalie towards and come out quickly its a good goal not even goalie interference

Nah, he was definitely holding the stick.

@@MrFelixifyLifting stick to get puck is hooking?

We are pissed.

@@lausou1 hooking a player that would be free with the golie, holding and lifting his stick so he wasn't able to shoot... Is hooking.

@@MrFelixify Actually hooking the stick is allowed and part of defence but hooking a player is not. He hooked the stick, not the player. No penalty should have given. Go read the rule book. "When a Player is checking another in such a way that there is only stick-to-stick contact, such action is not to be penalized as “hooking”". The rule when being free with the goalie is that if player gets hooked or tripped or what so ever from behind when he is on breakaway, it's penalty shot. But in this case he didn't get hooked. His stick did. Which is defence in this sport.

Same as they didnt show the guy standing in the goalie zone on Finlands 1-1 goal, should never been OT in the first place

@@emilwiezell1906 he can stand there, as long as its not interfering the goalkeeper.

Finland dominated on parts of the game

@@kakkssjefkstay4467 Sweden dominated 80% of the first two periods. The game should have been decided then and there, but we were too inefficient at hitting the net.

Dont blame the referee when you played in your own defensive zone the entire game, trying to get penalties provoking the players the entire game. Finland is a great team, but the best team won fair. Bad sportsmanship blaming the referees. You can be bigger then that....

PS. A coach blaming the referees after being outplayed most of the game is a a man without integrity

​@@JK-gw1yfthe coach wasn't blaming anyone... all he said is that they had a conversation and they disagreed the truth is that's a game deciding penalty. you can't make those soft 50/50 calls in OT. Especially when you've ignored multiple holding penalties for the other side.

​@@JK-gw1yfit's more about the referee observer not really doing his job here. Sweden was the better team, they dominated for most of the match, but the refs weren't perfect. In regulation time they made some bad decisions on what to call and what not to call but those were minor errors imo. The OT call however was just wrong and in a crucial part of the game. Jalonen went to talk to the referee observer after the game about it and the observer basically said that the call was wrong but because the ref THOUGHT that he saw Helenius' stick hit the hands of the Swedish player he was right in making the call. Which is just baffling. The wrong call was justified because "the referee thought he saw a foul". I'm not saying Finland deserved to win this game, nor am I saying the refs were biased or it's their fault Finland lost, BUT the way the game ended was just stupid.

​@@JK-gw1yfI dont like to blame referees for a lose, but when their bad decisions affect game so much it must be said. Sweden played better and deserved the win, but giving so easy penalties to Finland all the time while Sweden could do anything (except the two penalties at end) was shameful. I was always afraid when Finns were having any contact with Swedes that they would give another gift for Sweden

Отстойно финны играли, шведы играли классно

Not to mention how many obvious penalties were not called especially in the first two periods. IIHF standard refereeing for sure. GG Sweden though.

he touched the gloves. its hooking

@@coolboy7140 Doesn't negate the fact that the Swedes for some reason didn't get called for penalties for 2 or 3 very obvious cases that gave ample reason for penalties in the first two periods. But there is nothing we can do about it now. Congrats to the Swedes for the win.

Shame also that Granlund had to sit the match out because of the match ban. Could have been bit more interesting otherwise, not to say that the game was boring to watch.

​@@coolboy7140Its not hooking. Players do that 50 times per game. You probably watched your first game tonight, am i right? Absolutely disgusting call.

Thank you for the interesting game. Now I'm rooting for Sweden. I hope the next Finnish coach will take NHL players in because it's hard to success with just liga player (that's why I was waiting for the humiliation in this game). Sweden played better and deserved the victory.

That Finnish coach is very decent, 3WC golds, 1 Olympic gold and 1 U20-gold. He always get full potential out of those liga players even though he got some critic in Finland for not taking NHL-players. I'm rooting for the Swedish gold now

And meanwhile swedish players hanging on with both hands like the gays they are and no one cares

Agreed. Not an underserved advancement to SF by any means, but ideally it would have happened from a regular 3-on-3 play in the OT.

Brutal way to end it I wish referees didn't make such calls on overtime.

Its a clear 2 min penalty, and not even close it wouldnt. Better learn the rules, than complain about things you dont know. Read online.

Initial contact hits the glove but most angles dont show that. It is 100% a pen when you realize that

I agree Sweden deserved the win but I'd rather see the outcome without that bs OT-penalty (especially because I think Finland played better in OT). I'm now rooting for the Swedish gold

yea, yea. I saw a soft one that got called on Sweden too =)

@@joakimhausswolff9728which one?? Cuz there was only one, and it was a clear one😂.

@@shakadi6483 not really, it was a body hit and they called tripping on it ´,

​@@philipamreus8862 it was a skate on skate collision, penalty was clear as day.

They do. But its more how they play defense in my opinion.

Most of them *never* come tbf.

@@Nikkeloodeon I know but the others got even some. It might be their coaches fault (he signed players immediately and didn't wait for their NHL players). That was a dumb move if it's true

Referees can have massive impact on the outcome of a match and that's what we saw here. Unfortunately it wasn't even just the last penalty. Finland was under special surveillance the whole match

The finnish player tries to lift the stick twice within a split second, if you only see the second (successful) attempt, obviously you'll think it's a disgraceful wrong call by the ref, but the 1st attempt to lift the stick actually ends up being a whack at the swedish player's hands and if you see that, then it's more understandable that the penalty was called.

@@lothar877 The referee observer recently admitted it was a wrong call but he said accidents like that happen when the referee doesn't have enough visibility.

Finland’s keeper was phenomenal. Sweden was the better team. Happy? [edit: and, of course, well played to Finland]

@@raindropsonthewindowsill5170 Thats the way to do it

Sweden had a 60 min powerplay but the Finnish sisu kept them alive. And Larmi that had the game of this life of course.

We live in a time of doxa and rhetoric; we have forgotten the "good rhetoric" (which searches for logos), and instead, we let those who want to sow antipathy to, therefore, fix people's horizons, which prohibits them from merging with others in discussions, in dialectics, to do so because we have forgotten that rationality is a virtue and next to godhood beyond religion.

@@joakimhausswolff9728 brilliant, lol, why the pretentious essay-writing tho? gg

That Finnish coach is a wizard (got so much potential out of those liga players, even though he got some critics for not taking Finnish NHL players who were available). This was his last game as a coach of the Finnish team, got 5 golds from the international games (1 olympic gold, 3WC golds & 1 U20-gold). I'm now rooting for the Swedish team

Finland had the psychological momentum - Sweden haven't reached the semis since 2018, Sweden were a huge favorite, Finland is always a special matchup for us, and when we couldn't get through Larmi for almost three periods I believe that got the Swedish team stressed. Happy we could pull through after all.

​@@danielwerner86Yes, I think Finland's style of play is the problem, this boring and capability to bring the style of play to their benifits

@@yoooei5792 how is Finns style of play boring? So many says this and i have no idea wtf you guys are talking about?

@@onelove1627 They scared to make plays and waiting for turnovers and always play very defensively. I understand it's their style of play and I respect Finland as a country and hockey nation they have had terrible rosters and yet they end up beating big teams due to their very well tactics

@@hockeyfanfromfinland That's fully understandable

IIHF social media people live in 2008. 720p is their jam.

Best of luck! May the best team advance🫶

Alone with the goalie. Clear penalty.

@@JK-gw1yf not even a close to a penalty. They didn't call swedes holding all through the game in regular time and then they call this. Embarrassing

​@@xzcvbc112 finns got away with a lot of shit too

​​@@xzcvbc112 To be fair i saw some things from both teams he did not call. In one instance before OT i saw a Fin holdning his arm shut close to his body with a Swedes glove in between. You could se the Swede trying to forcefully jank himself free 😅😂

last penalty was conpletely wrong and they won because of that

@@Anton-nq8qocry me a river

​@@Anton-nq8qoBut Sweden played much better the whole match.

@@Anton-nq8qo🤡

I am so sad that you lost. But happy that Czechia won USA at least.

Last pen hits the glove. I didnt see it first but some angles are clear as day

The referee saw it from close-up. He made the right call.

@@b_rabbit435 actually the referee observer said it was a bad call and said things like this happens when the referee doesn't see enough from the back

@@b_rabbit435not true

Finally someone that isn’t crying in the comment, well-played mate. It’s always a blast to play Finland!

Skål! =)

@@raindropsonthewindowsill5170 You mean you wouldn't in the same situation? Even the referee observer admitted the OT-penalty was a mistake but defended the referee and said didn't see it fully.

@@RockerFinland I wouldn’t cry if my team played shit the entire game, no, which Finland did. Additionally, why is everyone talking about the referee observers all of the sudden lmao? It wasn’t even contested, it’s easy to say it was right/wrong in hindsight, that’s spot for you.

It was the best possible effort the liga team would provide. Still wondering why the coach didn't get the available Finnish NHL-stars.

It's funny how Finland and Sweden just turn to hate each other when the hockey season comes :D Aside from the refs, you guys did play really well and deserved to win! Definetly rooting for Sweden for the rest of the tournament! 🇫🇮❤️🇸🇪

you mad? Thanks anyway

@@snullefaahhr5236 Are you mad? Why you got offended? I'm also happy for Sweden to make it to the top-4. There's a possibly for gold too, amazing tournament

@@RockerFinland I’m not, but the comment above sounded pretty sarcastic

Yeah. The flying stick was swedish players fault by not even holding it. The ”tripping” in OT was just funny how there was nothing.

Obviously. And none for Sweden

are expecting natural powerplays when your arent skating? or even controlling play? i dont understand what you are complaining about.

​@@lausou1 uhh.. it wasn't tripping, it was hooking. As in, hooking the swede's stick with your own which is not allowed and a clear penalty.

@@TheMysteriouswatcher but there wasn't any hooking. None on the stick, hands or body. It was just lifting the hockey stick.

I agree, congrats Sweden and I really do hope you get the same refs that you guys had in this game against Czech for a bit of extra support👍

@@asmrzonza8963keep crying🥱🥱

@@asmrzonza8963 Stop crying, finland played dirty that's why we got powerplay several times.

@@b_rabbit435 hahaha it's always the swedes accusing everyone being dirty. Even if they win. Puss ies

Istu miekkaan

jag, vi försökte spela åtminstonde. medans finland bara backade hem. som dom alltid gör.

@@Allexstrasza without your ref you could book the flight back to the US.

@@Allexstrasza He drank too much during the break so he just wanted to get to the toilet and let one in

​@@AllexstraszaSweden played better obviously but not in the 3rd period and the OT until the penalty... also Finland should've gotten like 2 power plays more

No one has second jobs in SHL or Liiga. These are professional leagues with full time pro players.

hockey is a unique sport, where you can mitigate the other team and nullify the talent gap by playing a certain way. i do not understand however, why finnish fans arent frustrated.. fly a few NHLers over and lets have a proper competitive hockey game. this was only "competetive" because the score was 0-0 for so long. its like you show up with a bad team deliberatly, so you can play without preassure? i dont get it.

Funnies comment haha, gg

​@@raindropsonthewindowsill5170sorry, it's just that Swedish uniform reminds me of minions