Vanilla WoW Secrets Solved, As Well as Other Facts About WoWs Early Design

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hirumaredx

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-The World of Warcraft Diary-
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-Things mentioned
Campfire Ganks
Regular Long Travel Quests
Ironforge Airfield Mystery Solved
Titan Cinematic
South Seas Expansion
Player Housing
3 Cut Races (Naga, Goblin, Demons)
Ogre Playable Race (Ogre)
AV First BG Made
Achievements
Fishing Hesitations
Deadmines Benchmark
Smaller Dungeons
Karazhan Krypts Mystery Solved
Talent Trees Late Addition
Last 2 Zones Finished
Last Vanilla Zone Worked On (Emerald Dream Mystery Solved)
LOTR Death Effects
Vehicle PvP Combat
Horde Stuff
Earliest WoW Map
Molten Core Was Made in 1 Week

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@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 5 жыл бұрын
If you want to see more things like this covered in the video, watch part 1 here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNqHlbt_zMjFfmQ.html
@andljoy
@andljoy 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh classic instances , long and loads of trash . Kids like yourself would not last back then. And no , payers did not like the small instances "the best"focus groups liked the small instances the best , players back the miss the real instances not the crap we have now .
@skannerz22
@skannerz22 5 жыл бұрын
emerald dream was the expansion that was scrapped..
@dbfi01
@dbfi01 5 жыл бұрын
5:08 "after the launch of the game, players like the small, quick dungeons" Eeehm... I know what you mean, but... after the launch of the game? Ehm.. no....
@Spinexus
@Spinexus 5 жыл бұрын
Oh that´s the book from the guy that was at the classicast am i right?
@jeffklein8420
@jeffklein8420 5 жыл бұрын
soooo when does the book come out...
@nut3824
@nut3824 4 жыл бұрын
Blizzard: Scraps the Demon race, because they wanted them to be shapeshifters, but that would be a lot of work. Also Blizzard: Creates the Druid class.
@alienbounty5457
@alienbounty5457 4 жыл бұрын
While this isn’t fact. I believe that the Druid class was made to shapeshift with that fact that they knew what animals there would be and how limited the class would be. The demons would most likely just start with shapeshifting and that would be really over powered. People would just start using demons. The Druid class is most likely what the demon racial would have been if the animal forms were earned. This isn’t me not getting a joke. I’m just giving my theory.
@2Eliishere
@2Eliishere 3 жыл бұрын
More like then they add Worgens
@caelinnis
@caelinnis 3 жыл бұрын
Draenei are the replacement for the Demon race, which makes sense as they are uncorrupted Demons, essentially
@anonyman2141
@anonyman2141 3 жыл бұрын
@Rose's Zen Garden amount of transformations =/= complexity of transformation. The worgen are far more complex, as you have a whole set of customization that remains consistent and is given to your transformation (though the orb of the sin'dorei already did that in tbc at least)
@Kaiyanwang82
@Kaiyanwang82 4 ай бұрын
Bears don't wear pants. At least, the bears NE and Cows shapeshift into. But you HAD to comment, right?
@Brakerofwind
@Brakerofwind 5 жыл бұрын
with all the added islands over the years to the game, it's a miracle thrall and his small horde in WC3 made it to kalimdor at all.
@Nga_Babaye
@Nga_Babaye 4 жыл бұрын
But they came through a portal.
@AvelineMelena
@AvelineMelena 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nga_Babaye No
@Moredhel83
@Moredhel83 4 жыл бұрын
@@AvelineMelena Technically they did, but indeed not on Kalimdor.
@AvelineMelena
@AvelineMelena 4 жыл бұрын
@@Moredhel83 Indeed.
@rexlee6255
@rexlee6255 4 жыл бұрын
inaccuracies all throughout video
@bamboo-3125
@bamboo-3125 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I wish the campfire afk killing thing was still in the game
@JRedNose
@JRedNose 5 жыл бұрын
As do we all
@snarkymcsnarkface1863
@snarkymcsnarkface1863 5 жыл бұрын
It was fun.
@G1Bryce
@G1Bryce 5 жыл бұрын
It was really annoying. But of course, people found other ways to grief you. Especially if you were afk in a contested zone, even in a "safe spot" protected by guards.
@Regunes
@Regunes 5 жыл бұрын
On private server you could summon and ban an inferno for the same effect
@Zerohopexe
@Zerohopexe 5 жыл бұрын
Bàmboo - I would've killed so many tauren with it, I always put campfires under tauren who are afk
@1happboy
@1happboy Жыл бұрын
Finding the Dwarven Airfields in classic back in the day was such an exciting experience. I remember there used to be a “path” through the mountains in Loch Modan that you could glitch jump up through to reach the airfield before flying mounts released. I used to sell guided tours to the airfield for like 50s or something to players who were interested. Gooooood times man
@Voidstalker123
@Voidstalker123 Жыл бұрын
Bruh I remember paying for someone to guide me up there as a kid back on Argent Dawn.
@ihaveproblems9779
@ihaveproblems9779 5 жыл бұрын
World of Warcraft's Game Masters have a semi-strict uniform policy in game, where they wear a distinct blue and black robe and hood. These items are in the game but unobtainable by players, among which are the Gamemaster's Hood, Gamemaster's Robes and Gamemaster's Slippers, respectively. Additionally, these Game Masters you would see in-game tended to be developers or higher-ranked quality-assurance staff. Your average Game Master is sitting in a booth in Texas or California, accessing World of Warcraft's in-game chat via a unique command prompt window outside of the game. This window allows them to be outside of game while still being able to assist you, which additionally allowed them to assist multiple people at once if absolutely necessary, there is no longer pressure on staff to juggle reaponses. Additionally, when you are mailed an item from a Game Master, an invisible Blizzard Ledger item is put in the mailbox from their end and sent, giving the trademark Blizzard watermark on official Game Master mail messages.
@Letgoit2
@Letgoit2 5 жыл бұрын
I see u posting multiple comments with intel, i shall like to boost it up for debate.
@ihaveproblems9779
@ihaveproblems9779 5 жыл бұрын
@@Letgoit2 Cool!
@MrAntAve
@MrAntAve 5 жыл бұрын
"Invisible Blizzard Ledger item" l i f e h a c k s
@AnthonyGarcia-yy6pd
@AnthonyGarcia-yy6pd 5 жыл бұрын
Knowledge
@StarGazerTom1991
@StarGazerTom1991 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, how deep does this rabbit hole go? This is pretty cool info!
@dier_
@dier_ 5 жыл бұрын
I was expecting this to be like the usual "Scrapped Vanilla Ideas" video, but this was actually a great video with information i hadnt heard.
@Anudorini-Talah
@Anudorini-Talah 5 жыл бұрын
This need upvote
@dosran5786
@dosran5786 4 жыл бұрын
because you astarted in wrath youll deny this but we both know this is true/...
@jccole7092
@jccole7092 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Dire Maul was released and it would take 2 hours to complete the dungeon, partly because we would get lost every time! I also remember coming across this one book about finding Ash Bringer by fishing so trying to fish it out of some random ponds in Ferales! Good o' times.
@ihaveproblems9779
@ihaveproblems9779 5 жыл бұрын
The Emerald Dream zone file was independently located within the game directory for the longest time, existing in game but remaining inaccessible to players due to a lack of instance triggers to go to the zone. This is how we have the initial file. The Emerald Dream was, again, worked on and updated to a small extent during Legion, with Druids battling Demons in the open expanses. This was, however, scrapped yet again as the zone was far too expansive, and as they wanted to tie it into the raid.
@Duckledore
@Duckledore 5 жыл бұрын
Ay, I remember climbing up to the Dun Morogh airfield back in vanilla before you could use flying mounts in Azeroth.
@justinx590
@justinx590 5 жыл бұрын
Yesss.
@aaleeksii
@aaleeksii 5 жыл бұрын
Mountain climbing to places that shouldve been unaccessible was the shit
@zippo718
@zippo718 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite is the large troll village inside a crater you can see when flying through northern Kalimdor.
@georgewirth882
@georgewirth882 5 жыл бұрын
Pics or it didn't happen.
@zackolot
@zackolot 4 жыл бұрын
I found a bunch of flat areas in between zones, like climbing on the mountains of un'goro crater or west dun morogh. I also managed to get into instanced tanaris by climbing the mountains near the zul farak portal and jumping over the gate of zul farak. I walked all the way to gadgetzan and managed to fall of the map, which put me in a state of perpetually falling without being able to logout or teleport. A GM actually ported me out and asked me how I got there and told me not to do it again lol
@calvinwithak7514
@calvinwithak7514 4 жыл бұрын
Blizzard: oh shit we're running out of time to make a raid, quick just throw some shit together in a cave or something Players: wow this raid is super cool! Blizzard: exactly as planned
@radioactive9861
@radioactive9861 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean "Working as intended."? ;)
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace 4 жыл бұрын
And those players will pretend old raids were something special
@DmkzWerty
@DmkzWerty 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what inspired them for today's current content. Thanks old players!
@ashwean
@ashwean 4 жыл бұрын
Your welcome guys as a vanilla vet I did enjoy the original 40 man raids
@cantinoch9579
@cantinoch9579 4 жыл бұрын
And they haven't thought to do that since for some reason.
@Bysentenial
@Bysentenial 5 жыл бұрын
I want a [physical] copy of this book but there are two words that strike fear into the hearts of any Australian. Plus Shipping It'll cost me just under $100 to buy.
@jean-michelnicolas9999
@jean-michelnicolas9999 5 жыл бұрын
Buy the ebook and have it print in Australia ... I probably saved you about 10$ :D
@Geckomayhem
@Geckomayhem 5 жыл бұрын
Shipping to NZ is also atrocious. I still went for it. Now, with his stretch goals I'm really glad I did. :)
@shywalker404
@shywalker404 5 жыл бұрын
bysentenial : Denmark here But face the same shipping costs and therefor am never able to support or sport any gear , other items or stuff from US. Makes me sad, But I dont opt for lower cost Asian ripoffs.
@Bysentenial
@Bysentenial 5 жыл бұрын
No, I said I live in Australia, not America.
@IAmKnightsDawn
@IAmKnightsDawn 5 жыл бұрын
Went to ship my friend my old Elgato Hd60 and realized it would cost the price of the item (as new) just to send it to him. FeelsBadMan.
@darkzero226
@darkzero226 5 жыл бұрын
The Karazhan Crypts thing was explained by the guy writing the book in a video by Planet Dolan. He said that he designed the catacombs on his off-time for fun, and wasn't used because of the fact the designed it on his own without any oversight by the lore team. He said Metzen was very confused as to what these places were, since he only saw the names.
@int3r4ct
@int3r4ct 5 жыл бұрын
One guy made MC in a single week? Damn dude
@aussie870
@aussie870 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was Jeff Kaplan, or at least he had a large part in it. He also now happens to be the Director of Overwatch
@int3r4ct
@int3r4ct 5 жыл бұрын
@@aussie870 Jeff "Tiggole Bitties" Kaplan was the lead quest or game designer iirc, can't remember which, not the dungeon guy.
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Kaplan was the guy to ASK for MC to be made, but he wasn't the one who did it. It was the guy who wrote the book John Stats
@theshaman415
@theshaman415 5 жыл бұрын
No. If you read his book or watch his interviews you know that it took much more than one week.
@habama1077
@habama1077 5 жыл бұрын
@@CalebAvery95 please, I'd love to read the rest of the interview too
@ihaveproblems9779
@ihaveproblems9779 5 жыл бұрын
Azshara's Crater, I think it's called, was a battleground in the works for a much larger Azshara zone. It was double the size of AV and had multiple points of contingency within it. It was ultimately scrapped for unknown reason but was very close to finish. You can see it on many private servers.
@theZCAllen
@theZCAllen Жыл бұрын
THANK GOD! worst BG design of all time, and they wanted to combine it with the second worst? XD
@skyfiredraco
@skyfiredraco 5 жыл бұрын
"The death effects in WoW were put in because the devs saw Lord of the Rings and liked it so much" Me: What? Fellowship of the ring isn't that old! Its a genre defining movie that is at least relatively recen... /checks release date 2001... 17 years go... ... God i feel old now...
@Willowplesure
@Willowplesure 5 жыл бұрын
holy crap you're right, now i feel old too -.-'
@mmorpgprincess7206
@mmorpgprincess7206 4 жыл бұрын
Did you notice the Lego Character in the video at that point? WTF?
@vincentdilallo8356
@vincentdilallo8356 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I said the same damn thing and had to look up the release date...
@Carpatouille
@Carpatouille 4 жыл бұрын
I remember playing Lotr maps on Warcraft 3 in 2004, good times
@aussie870
@aussie870 5 жыл бұрын
No lying here, I've been playing on a private server recently, and the exploration behind the huge dungeons like BRD and Maraudon are so much fun because they are so big. Deciding were to go and were this random passage way will lead. Whereas the smaller dungeon system is far too linear for my liking and becomes repetitive quickly.
@aussie870
@aussie870 5 жыл бұрын
I did specifically state that I was playing on a private server, so I don't really care about how M+ dungeons would work in classic content. I'm simply stating that the designs of dungeons like BRD and other long and sprawling dungeons are simply much preferred in my books. There is no need to get pissy just because I stated an opinion.
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think they might have underestimated that if SM was popular it might partially be because it has a great lore concept and design as well, not just due to its size. The variation between dungeon sizes in vanilla was refreshing.
@wowlover16
@wowlover16 5 жыл бұрын
@vanyadolly SM was definitely a favorite due to its lore, design, and unforgetable final boss. "Mograine has fallen? You shall pay for this treachery!" The frequency in which people pulled extra adds by being below level 38 and that awesome hat also helped in how memorable the dungeon became. RIP Interrogator Vishas.
@MrAntAve
@MrAntAve 5 жыл бұрын
"There is no need to get pissy" gets pissy anyway
@Okxyd
@Okxyd 5 жыл бұрын
Big dungeons were super annoying because of the trashmob respawn, failing a boss was very punitive already but doing all the trashmob again was rapidly demoralizing for everyone as it was nor fun not challenging.
@siscokidder
@siscokidder 5 жыл бұрын
Huh. I got to like that dwarven airfield explanation. It always had me guessing.
@EricDrinksWater
@EricDrinksWater 5 жыл бұрын
all of this stuff is just ripped from WowCrendor's latest fishing episode
@dosran5786
@dosran5786 4 жыл бұрын
@@EricDrinksWater none of it was new there either he wall hacked woooo who fucking didnt back in bc and vanilla.
@flappy7373
@flappy7373 4 жыл бұрын
@@EricDrinksWater you have a very cool name, you know that?
@tylerjustiss13
@tylerjustiss13 5 жыл бұрын
Dude you should totally do an exploration of zeroth with eye of divinity you have because I read on wow dev page that theres ALOT of ghosts that haven't been seen yet by players
@ihaveproblems9779
@ihaveproblems9779 5 жыл бұрын
The first place Outlands was tested was within the Deadmines instance, where outside the caverns you can find a gaping chasm complete with floating crystalline trees, Dalaran bubbles and scorched stone. Development was halted here as they created a new zone file to continue actual development of Draenor. Initially, Draenor and Northrend were to be in the initial game but, due to time constraints and a desire to not cut on content, were held off for expansions.
@ihaveproblems9779
@ihaveproblems9779 5 жыл бұрын
Within undeveloped areas, Blizzard placed Infernals named "Guardian of Blizzard" (Infernals were originally referenced as Baelrogs internally). These mobs ran at mach speed and could instantly one-shot a player in hope of steering players away. Eventually these were scrapped and replaced with other means, chief in Mount Hyjal the famous "No Man's Land" debuff, which teleported players to Winterspring upon entering the Mount Hyjal zone.
@JuddMan03
@JuddMan03 5 жыл бұрын
I thought those were only in the beta to prevent players exploring areas that weren't allowed access to beta testers
@Carpatouille
@Carpatouille 5 жыл бұрын
Back when Infernals were impressive to look at and remindful of how strong these were in warcraft 3
@deathslicers
@deathslicers 5 жыл бұрын
just fighting a single infernal was a daunting task as anything but the Chaos Horde in WC3. Lots of armor, lots of health, AoE immolation, and they hit pretty damn hard. Chaos Horde could fight back because of their own Chaos damage.
@hydropump7321
@hydropump7321 5 жыл бұрын
My brother still has pictures of his 60 orc warrior with unstoppable force in hyjal as well
@deathslicers
@deathslicers 5 жыл бұрын
@Scar Yeah, they fucking hurt and were elites. They were considerably powerful simply for doing Elemental damage on autoattacks.
@shred5
@shred5 5 жыл бұрын
I could tell Silithus was the last zone worked on, the Plaguelands however were awesome.
@zippo718
@zippo718 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah lot of great stuff in the Plaguelands like Chromie, Tirion, etc questlines. Also quests that were actually hard for once. Had to pull out all the tricks to complete some of those.
@thrakerzad5874
@thrakerzad5874 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose they worked on the plaguelands first and then ran out of time while in silithus
@Direbeetus
@Direbeetus 2 жыл бұрын
I would have guessed Deadwind Pass. What a useless zone in vanilla
@shred5
@shred5 2 жыл бұрын
@@Direbeetus Not a bad guess, but that was actually one of the first along with Karazhan. While it didn't launch until BC, it went through several iterations starting when the game was in its early ages. You can tell the end result was designed before BC for sure.
@St0ltenberg
@St0ltenberg 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Hiru! This video series is really something. I find all of your content interesting and entertaining. But this one is something special, and somewhat unique! Keep up the good work. Looking forward for more of videos like this.
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 5 жыл бұрын
This is most likely the last video like this for a while. With this video I've covered all of the more interesting facts from the book, other than small things like how Vanilla WoW had the working title of "Into the Maelstrom" for a while.
@grantpiper2035
@grantpiper2035 5 жыл бұрын
Hiru, you are by far my favorite WoW content creator. No one else goes as in-depth as you do, especially for old content. Keep it up!
@LuxuryBallCollectibles
@LuxuryBallCollectibles 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this video cost me $172, I now await my WoW diary to be delivered.
@adamleckius2253
@adamleckius2253 3 жыл бұрын
It cost that much?!
@audiofun1
@audiofun1 2 жыл бұрын
Did it arrive?
@bahur47
@bahur47 2 жыл бұрын
damn , i should be careful watching this channel then ;d
@ladiesgentswegothim
@ladiesgentswegothim 5 жыл бұрын
We used to climb up into the Nordrassil plateau back in vanilla. Don't know if you still can, but Archimonde's skeleton is there at the world tree.
@Ben-vb2us
@Ben-vb2us 5 жыл бұрын
I actually got into Hyjal back in vanilla with my friends :) the skeleton on the tree was awesome. It was funny actually, there was a road block on the road that said "under construction" if I remember right
@faeterran341
@faeterran341 4 жыл бұрын
I would pay to see the devs raid molten core.
@NA-ow8ky
@NA-ow8ky 5 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best videos so far, back to back facts. Would love to see more of these!
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 5 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if blizzard released vanilla servers that included all cut content?
@j4kfr05t5
@j4kfr05t5 5 жыл бұрын
The fanboys would be burning down Blizz HQ, because it wouldn't be *true* vanilla then.
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly 5 жыл бұрын
We can always dream of what could have been.
@Antonio-gg4vv
@Antonio-gg4vv 5 жыл бұрын
If that happened "original fans" would be triggered beyond help, and would complain about "Back in my day, it was this way and that way" and yada yada yada. Blizzard can't make ANY changes to Vanilla without triggering some lunatic who played the original game.
@biffy117
@biffy117 5 жыл бұрын
tbh I would not mind this. It seems a little game breaking as far as things from other x-pacs showing up in vanilla but since when has Blizz ever cared about being canon?
@habama1077
@habama1077 5 жыл бұрын
@@Antonio-gg4vv they are doing exactly that this time though. Maybe not big things like adding the achi system, but they are developing from the ground up again. Certain bugs will not exsist (which sounds good, but then again, where is the "authenticity"). Some very small QoL changes will be in place afaik.
@kayeos4317
@kayeos4317 5 жыл бұрын
The first intercontinental quest chain was for warlocks at level 20 for there succubus. You had to run from sw to the barrens with no mount or flight paths. Took around 4 hours for that one quest. Longer on pvp servers
@Andrew-qu7lq
@Andrew-qu7lq 5 жыл бұрын
Paladin quest at level 20 was similar, had to go from Stormwind, deadmines, over to Kalimdor outside of BFD, and also way way up inside Shadowfang Keep in horde territory.
@fitmotheyap
@fitmotheyap 3 жыл бұрын
God.. I Hated That And still do
@JakeyFlake
@JakeyFlake 5 жыл бұрын
Im really surprised about the talent tree thing since it pre dates WoW as a system from Diablo 2.
@Mode-Selektor
@Mode-Selektor 5 жыл бұрын
Diablo 2 had both talents and stat points.
@vadari9705
@vadari9705 5 жыл бұрын
I like these types of videos with the history of wow and cut content the most. Keep up the good work.
@dodgykebaab
@dodgykebaab 5 жыл бұрын
Hiru has the book already before the kickstarter is done. Time Traveler confirmed.
@ZombieSlayerTakashi
@ZombieSlayerTakashi Жыл бұрын
With the way the Dracthyr are designed, they could easily do the same thing with Naga. Just have them learn Visage and have customizable Armor for their Naga form.
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Very well edited, loved the transitions in the beginning!
@dragenmaster5385
@dragenmaster5385 5 жыл бұрын
ello hamsterwheel
@Abelhawk
@Abelhawk 5 жыл бұрын
I love behind the scenes stuff, and I love Warcraft! Great video.
@muticere
@muticere 5 жыл бұрын
I still kind of hope real player housing comes to WoW. I know I know, Garrisons are supposed to be the solution to that often requested feature, but real player housing should have been located in Org for Horde, Stormwind for Ally, not in some off-zone area we'll never have any reason to go to again. And now with so many different vanity items and the potential to make even more types where they to add the capability, I really could see this working.
@Letgoit2
@Letgoit2 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe better, westfall/redridge as ur common farmhouse patreon lord or ironforge mountains as your vacation building? Troll islands as a hawaian vacation and some other cool horde areas to relax or feel for roleplay.
@habama1077
@habama1077 5 жыл бұрын
I just don't think it'd work with wow's engine. Not that it's impossible, but how would it even work? Placing decoration for example. This isn't a skyrim-level engine (and it hardly worked there as well)
@mightyblue3426
@mightyblue3426 5 жыл бұрын
Sparka J WildStar's main feature I loved was player housing. But yeah, WoW's engine is not up to even their standard.
@MooseCastle
@MooseCastle 5 жыл бұрын
I would much rather have guild housing.
@realgamers5571
@realgamers5571 5 жыл бұрын
@Sparka J wildstar.... right of the beginning it was fun.. u cant disagree with me
@dangeroussecondaccount893
@dangeroussecondaccount893 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this is a really awesome entertaining video. Please make more!
@Thrillkilled
@Thrillkilled 5 жыл бұрын
Player housing would be so amazing. I remember a game called something along the lines of Eden Eternal had player housing that you could get, and the housing would change depending on what city you were in.
@neopa06
@neopa06 5 жыл бұрын
I want more from this diary! Really good video!
@gyranos716
@gyranos716 5 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what was behind that gate/portal Always thought it was some secret dungeon no one knew about
@dimz796
@dimz796 5 жыл бұрын
They could have adapted Therazane's model or the one her daughter uses to a flesh version to make the female ogre model.
@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos
@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos 4 жыл бұрын
But it's hideous and people want something kind of nice to look at, especially when it is a female model. Which is why trolls and taurens don't have the ugly female models that were originally planned.
@ShadowSumac
@ShadowSumac 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos Well, they kind of broke this rule with female kul'tirans.
@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos
@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowSumac fair, but still not on the level of therazane
@grnman86
@grnman86 5 жыл бұрын
Props to you for giving a shoutout to the book at the end and the author, nice to see credit given where credits due. Good video though, loved hearing about all the process of the early game. Always wondered what the portal in SW was for.
@yodaonketamine5706
@yodaonketamine5706 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one Hiru, great job !
@Acelif
@Acelif Жыл бұрын
Ironforge was also going to be considerably bigger, I think they planned 8 floors of it but realised players would just get annoyed at having to run around so much inside it
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 11 ай бұрын
Lol people still get annoyed with the size it launched at.
@slackmartin7610
@slackmartin7610 5 жыл бұрын
I love the feeling when you wake up because someone else has to go to work, but you can still lay in bed and sleep cus it's your day off.
@rollermixmax
@rollermixmax 5 жыл бұрын
or you dont have a job, so that feeling quickly dissapears as you start to cry.... :(
@adamarmstrong5780
@adamarmstrong5780 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate what you do. Keep on doing you. You’re amazing.
@TheBunnyb0y
@TheBunnyb0y 5 жыл бұрын
Thank god they focused on races in the vanilla intro, its awesome to see them, although missing a few.... but still it represented wow so well
@KenjiAsakura09
@KenjiAsakura09 5 жыл бұрын
We need Murlocs as a playable race xD
@ProPotato
@ProPotato 5 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia trip. Damn I miss vanilla. X-Roads raids, World Bosses, (dragons) working your ass of to gear up in epics. Everything you had was hard earned, even the mounts.
@TheBassAvenger
@TheBassAvenger 5 жыл бұрын
Vanilla was about making Gold to afford those things cause it was scarce, now its all reputation based and timegated
@trecskoimi4323
@trecskoimi4323 5 жыл бұрын
I wish could watch videos like this forever
@PtaszekZPtasiegoMleczka
@PtaszekZPtasiegoMleczka 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, really loving the videos you do about vanilla. Especially these with the never before heard facts
@hafiz6510
@hafiz6510 5 жыл бұрын
9:51 "they just needed a big cave" that was the best part of the video
@someone-ji2zb
@someone-ji2zb 5 жыл бұрын
Funny... one of the most iconic raids with, arguably, the most epic final boss encounter in the game to date (especially given the context at the time) was made in the shortest amount of time. A lot of WoW's success was accidental it seems.
@basillah7650
@basillah7650 5 жыл бұрын
It is a favourite because it was the first.
@someone-ji2zb
@someone-ji2zb 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't really mention anything about favorites. Pretty sure the top 2 raids in popularity are karazhan and ulduar. Ragnaros was just a very iconic fight and the setting was us practically going to the depths of hell to fight him.. so to speak.
@MyViolador
@MyViolador 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Kaplan was a miracle worker
@someone-ji2zb
@someone-ji2zb 5 жыл бұрын
@@MyViolador After hearing his 2006 and beyond interview statements, I really don't think he was all that integral to the overall vanilla/BC success, as he had always wanted the game to be very streamlined and appeal to a more casual audience. Which, after other original devs had left post vanilla and around BC, he had gotten his wish going into wrath, and then into cata development before he stepped down. He did his job well when kept in check.
@OhNoTheFace
@OhNoTheFace 4 жыл бұрын
There is extreme rose coloured glasses involved for anyone who remembers MC fondly. Rag was awesome, the rest was literally a more boring Ragefire Chasm
@1MoreTurn
@1MoreTurn 5 жыл бұрын
I can remember my way around deadmines and wailing caverns as an alliance player (I did wailing caverns less rhan 10 times and still my crap memory remembers it). I still for the life of me cannot remember how get around waycrest manor after running normals, heroics, and mythics. Tldr: I like my dungeons THICC
@someone-ji2zb
@someone-ji2zb 5 жыл бұрын
Vanilla and BC dungeons were memorable. They still had the original design teams who had worked on both, so while the team was told to shorten the 5 mans for BC, they still knew how to make them epic. Sadly a lot of those people were shifted around/retired going into wrath and beyond.
@spencerhahn1635
@spencerhahn1635 2 жыл бұрын
The long journey thing sounds awesome. I never thought of the water totem quest as being that big of a journey, though.
@levferno483
@levferno483 Жыл бұрын
Campfire ganks lmao. I didn’t know quite a bit of these. Nice work!
@Scarletraven87
@Scarletraven87 5 жыл бұрын
LOL at the airfield. So you encounter a mortar team while leaving the dwarven spawn area (steam tanks too), wolf riders while leaving the orc spawn area, a acient guardian while leaving the NE area, an abomination (also quest giver) while leaving forsaken spawn area ... you get the point. They are all WC3 units. The forge in goldshire is a WC3 building, the barracks and tower futher west also are. So you happend to see a gyrocopter base when flying around. But because it is a MMO people specualte. Imao.
@lPsychoMax
@lPsychoMax 5 жыл бұрын
It would of been nice if those larger dungeons that were shortened into parts had the option after your party beat it, to be asked "do you want to continue the story to the next dungeon" instead of just ending. That way you could play the entire dungeon (if you were a high enough level) as it was supposed to be, if you want to do a full run; or stop at the end of any part. Rather than stopping and starting randomly in LFG.
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly 5 жыл бұрын
The ICC dungeons were like that if I remember correctly. They were linked by portals so on a guild run we'd often do them all in successiom.
@JuddMan03
@JuddMan03 5 жыл бұрын
Wacka Doodle they didn't put walls in preventing you from completing the rest of the dungeon if you wanted to. You could still queue for the first part and just run the entire thing. You'd have to get a group who wanted to do that though as most people just leave when the segment they queued for is done and they got their reward.
@vadari9705
@vadari9705 5 жыл бұрын
I really like that idea.
@Rowdie999
@Rowdie999 5 жыл бұрын
@@JuddMan03 no one stays because once they get the exp bonus and reward bag
@JuddMan03
@JuddMan03 5 жыл бұрын
so you have to get a group of friends or guildies who want to do the old school experience and group up with them.
@yata71289
@yata71289 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, as always. Not sure if you have a video about this or not, but you should make a video about the changes of professions through WoW's history.
@goatyachty1762
@goatyachty1762 5 жыл бұрын
This is a another amazing video!! I love all the amazing things you put out I really think you have potentially to be even bigger! Your knowledge of lore and the game is very interesting, and have a very chill and positive vibe. Thanks for all the great videos
@muticere
@muticere 5 жыл бұрын
That map doesn't make sense because we already have a map from WarCraft 3 which shows Kalimdor being approximately the same size as the Eastern Kingdoms. I know Bliz isn't afraid to recon, but that would be a pretty big one to cut the previously established large continent down to a quarter of its size.
@hirumaredx
@hirumaredx 5 жыл бұрын
WoW was in development at the same time as WC3.
@Zee3577
@Zee3577 5 жыл бұрын
@@hirumaredx exactly, there were alpha versions dating 1999
@acha3716
@acha3716 5 жыл бұрын
Mystery behind the WKM Room? Once that is solved, my life has reached completion. EDIT: FINALLY, the mystery behind the Karazhan Crypts has been (kind of) solved. It’s something that has always gnawed at me since I figured out of its existence and even more so once I was finally able to explore it myself not too far back.
@dragenmaster5385
@dragenmaster5385 5 жыл бұрын
WKM Room never existed before vanilla/after vanilla it was added in cata on new orgrimmar by a developer.
@sailure1
@sailure1 5 жыл бұрын
what about the rooms under Stormwind and Winterhold? You had to duel a Mage, have the Mage polymorph you into a sheep, and you would randomly walk through a wall / door (in the Throne rooms) to access the underground rooms. In Stormwind you could also access it by climbing the mountain near the Drawbridge.
@LuxuriaU
@LuxuriaU 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I've been so curious about that portal since I started playing. And noob me tried so hard to get in, I use to think it had something to do with the beast in the Stormwind Canal.
@luckyhands4995
@luckyhands4995 5 жыл бұрын
Lol no one could afford a mount at lvl 40 in vanilla.
@Audon4150
@Audon4150 5 жыл бұрын
Speak for yourself.
@luckyhands4995
@luckyhands4995 5 жыл бұрын
I played on illidan and I would say probly 20% total pop had mounts at 40.
@KaZ-bf2cr
@KaZ-bf2cr 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of myself pvping to rank 10 for 109% mount since 900g was almost impossible to have if you didn’t farm an entire month
@razgaros
@razgaros 5 жыл бұрын
I had one. Wasn't that hard to get too, then again I was playing on AQ40 patch at the time so maybe it was easier to get then.
@Mugthraka
@Mugthraka 5 жыл бұрын
Ugh tell me about it, it was because of this that i rolled Chaman and Hunter characters for the "free speed boost", and i din't get my mount until i was allready lvl47... The mounts price wasn't the problem, it was the darn Skill with its 1000g price tag
@pudding3387
@pudding3387 5 жыл бұрын
I have never played WOW in my life. Don't plan on, but your vids are still entertaining to me.
@Krisshomez
@Krisshomez 5 жыл бұрын
It's a really fun game, and a wonderful experience, I'd say give it a try. It's VERY addictive though, so precede with caution if you ever do decide to play.
@akhsdenlew1861
@akhsdenlew1861 5 жыл бұрын
+that guy If u managed to skip wow till now, then don't play it. there's a high possibility that it will suck the life out of your body for a long time. If u are not afraid or u simply don't care then do it... it will probably be the best mmo experience u will ever have
@arschkopp
@arschkopp 5 жыл бұрын
i would have loved to do more exploration quests. the first thing me and my buddy did when we obtain our first mounts at lvl 40 was exploring enemy territory and high level areas. 👌
@RikkaFresh
@RikkaFresh 5 жыл бұрын
Learning about the Kara crypts finally! So cool!
@falscherkim3033
@falscherkim3033 5 жыл бұрын
I see a Hiru video, i press like.
@ihcTactics
@ihcTactics 5 жыл бұрын
Hiru, you're general idea about the Karazhan Crypts might be right, but the specific information you mentioned about wine cellar and the such does not point to the crypts. Hayven Games posted an Alpha WoW Karazhan video years ago that shows the OG 40m design of Kara, including a basement/cellar. Ichorid also did a video on this 7 years ago.
@andythedm3347
@andythedm3347 5 жыл бұрын
This was awesome. Well done!
@phoenixalpha146
@phoenixalpha146 5 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting watch. Well done.
@spthetoker
@spthetoker 5 жыл бұрын
I really miss the longer dungeons. Dedication and willing to finish it was fun. Sunken Temple, Maraudon, UBRS and LBRS was super fun.
@richie616
@richie616 5 жыл бұрын
...PUGs could clear MC, and the devs couldn't. Mind. Blown.
@tb7771
@tb7771 5 жыл бұрын
So many fond memories for me playing vanilla WoW.
@kylebernabe2416
@kylebernabe2416 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Ad: let’s play raid shadow legends
@yoheywhatsupyo
@yoheywhatsupyo 5 жыл бұрын
Player housing... Just copy what Wildstar did, it was so fucking amazing.
@Vyrus
@Vyrus 5 жыл бұрын
New sub here, absolutely love your videos. Interesting and nostalgic, it's nice to watch whilst camping long spawn timers. Keep 'em coming!
@salah-eddinenane8315
@salah-eddinenane8315 5 жыл бұрын
I just started watching. your videos wish I would have found your channel sooner love your content new and old been watching alot of your countdowns. keep the videos coming man
@ihaveproblems9779
@ihaveproblems9779 5 жыл бұрын
Tauren originally had the ability to command "Plainsrunning", an ability similar to Worgen's unmounted movement ability, but was scrapped in favor for Thunderstomp.
@cweston9440
@cweston9440 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad tbh, thunderstomp is amazing and being able to ride huge mounts is great
@HallsteinI
@HallsteinI 5 жыл бұрын
War stomp.
@url4345
@url4345 4 жыл бұрын
I love the huge sprawling dungeons and raids and I wish things like kharazan, gnomergan, brd, were continued past vannila and on. If a raid or dungeo is too big to finish in one session, perfect! As long as it's non linear, that makes it very repeatable and fun to explore and delve deep inside of
@Switchkickzz
@Switchkickzz 5 жыл бұрын
Loving this content from the book!
@j4296
@j4296 5 жыл бұрын
In hindsight, I think they should have added Goblins and High Elves to the base game, I know this would have already been too many elves, but I would have made more sense and added additional rivalry between them upon the release of BC.
@j4296
@j4296 5 жыл бұрын
Plus each race would have an "opposite": High Elves-Blood Elves, Goblins-Gnomes, Orcs-Draenei, Night Elves-Tauren, Dwarves-Trolls, and Humans-Undead
@ahack13
@ahack13 5 жыл бұрын
Using player created dps meters instead of making their own. Yeah, that sounds like Blizzard. "Why make good clear raid mechanics when everyone is just gonna use DBM? Why make a customizable UI when everyone is just gonna use an add-on for it?"
@Edrosty
@Edrosty 5 жыл бұрын
I don't see what the point in being mad about it is. Bethesda's policy is pretty much the same. There's a lot of things they don't give a shit about because they know their modding community will likely take care of whatever it needs to.
@ahack13
@ahack13 5 жыл бұрын
@@Edrosty Just because a modding community exists does not mean we should give developers a free pass to be lazy.
@aikidodude05
@aikidodude05 5 жыл бұрын
@@ahack13 its not a needed thing you dont need recount. honestly it help as much as having good ilvl requirments for raids because at that level gear / class is the biggest factor that affects a dps meter all it really does is show who the noobs are. I dont care if the dev use a fan made mod why should they waste time to make one an keep it up to date when someone else has done the work?
@TheNacropolice
@TheNacropolice 5 жыл бұрын
It is actually smart, focus on where your strengths are. If you make your own system that means it is an extra system to support. Look at voice, it was added in Wrath(?) and hadn't seen an update until recently.
@russianbot2179
@russianbot2179 5 жыл бұрын
If Blizzard made their own DBM or damage meters... everyone would just replace them with better more customizable fan-made addons. So Blizzard intelligently says 'screw it'.
@ismount
@ismount 5 жыл бұрын
No one is going to comment on that Arcane mage action bar set up at 5:29?
@harrystanworth906
@harrystanworth906 5 жыл бұрын
Ian Mount macros
@aredub1847
@aredub1847 5 жыл бұрын
i remember the druid cm posting in the druid forums about walking in the emerald dream, how cool it was.
@12gagebuckshot99
@12gagebuckshot99 5 жыл бұрын
Good video my dude, you chose unique topics and i respect the hell out of that as i'v seen way too many "Look at this easter egg everyone's seen a million times" videos.
@patrickmccurry1563
@patrickmccurry1563 5 жыл бұрын
So Azeroth sounding like Azathoth is just a nice coincidence when they decided to add all those other Lovecraftian gods? Interesting.
@konstantinriumin2657
@konstantinriumin2657 5 жыл бұрын
Name "Azeroth" was created way before Old Gods were hinted at. (Warcraft Orcs vs Humans and Warcraft III respectively)
@4f52
@4f52 5 жыл бұрын
@@konstantinriumin2657 And? Azathot was made in 1929 and I can assure you, Blizzard knew all about Lovecraftian horror way before making their game.
@Catjamfan
@Catjamfan 5 жыл бұрын
It's not a coincidence... They literally copied massively from HP Lovecraft, which I personally love since I am a fan of his universe but lack good games of it beyond table top RP. (The games made aren't really good... imo). So it's not a coincidence, the dudes at original blizzard staff are hard-core RP nerds and loves Lovecraft too, that's why Wow was originally such a lovely game. Sadly now it's creeping into greedy gating and dragging things out to make subs longer... rather than keep people cause they enjoy it. (Not saying WoW sucks or anything, I'm still one of the biggest WoW nerds there is, but there is a difference of attitude from them nowadays.)
@paulchapman8023
@paulchapman8023 5 жыл бұрын
Warcraft: Orcs and Humans didn’t copy anything from Lovecraft, nor did Azeroth have anything to do with Azathoth. If anything, Azeroth was more likely named after Nazareth from the Bible.
@basillah7650
@basillah7650 5 жыл бұрын
@@konstantinriumin2657 Warcraft was going to be a warhammer game but they could not get the rights to using the warhammer name so they changed hammer to craft so i do not understand why you think it is a original game.
@Violet_Visions_
@Violet_Visions_ 5 жыл бұрын
i still miss the old talent trees. i started playing at burning crusade
@someone-ji2zb
@someone-ji2zb 5 жыл бұрын
Not a bad time to start honestly. I loved vanilla, but BC was truly the peak of the game's quality.
@raessarg
@raessarg 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing mate, keep it ! :)
@PotentiallyAndy
@PotentiallyAndy 3 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting. I never played retail am learning as I go. I always wondered what the portal in storm wind was. Thanks for the info
@angrychicken2874
@angrychicken2874 5 жыл бұрын
7:38 LEGO LOTR? Nice
@seekervaltriz9447
@seekervaltriz9447 5 жыл бұрын
"The naga homeworld" Oh i thought they once were elves from azeroth
@yutiko6068
@yutiko6068 5 жыл бұрын
They were. Queen Azshara and the other Highborne were responsible for the War of the Ancients (the Burning Legion's first invasion of the world) due to some lies by Sargeras. In trying to summon him the Well of Eternity (the source of the Highborne's magic) imploded and and pierced the planet's core creating the Maelstrom. [From here the Azshara Warbringer tells the rest of the creation.] The aftermath of this led to Zin-Azshari (the capital city of the Night Elves) being sucked into the Maelstrom. Queen Azshara then made the deal with N'Zoth and he turned her and her Highborne into the Naga. The Naga spent 10,000 years building Nazjatar underneath the Maelstrom. It is their home.
@seekervaltriz9447
@seekervaltriz9447 5 жыл бұрын
@@yutiko6068 you read my comment wrong. He said in the video that Nazjatar was the naga "homeworld" I know where they came from, afterall, I study lore of games on my freetime.
@yutiko6068
@yutiko6068 5 жыл бұрын
Alerius Morey I did not sense the sarcasm. I thought it was a legitimate comment.
@StealthBlackHand
@StealthBlackHand 5 жыл бұрын
it is their capital not a another "world" i know you sarcastic but that part is just not good in this video many things are slightly misworded
@samuelspeller2641
@samuelspeller2641 5 жыл бұрын
First time in a while i heard something about vanilla wow that i didn't know. Great video :D
@iliyauryupin7923
@iliyauryupin7923 5 жыл бұрын
Love you, thx for all the videos
@Just_Call_Me_Tim
@Just_Call_Me_Tim 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I caught a 1-month ban for finding myself a way up to the Dwarven airfield.... and the top of the Ironforge entryway.... and figuring out how to fall below Stormwind and run back and forth between there and Ironforge below the tram...
@LordProteus
@LordProteus 5 жыл бұрын
Fans have made good models for female Ogres, though. Fans > Paid Blizzard Employees.
@taylenday
@taylenday 5 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks I really did not know most of these things and I played vanilla from 04 to 06
@NickMagoteaux
@NickMagoteaux 5 жыл бұрын
Really great video!
@godly04
@godly04 5 жыл бұрын
3:27 Radical feminists, where were you when we needed you?
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 5 жыл бұрын
kinda fucked up how they didn't add female ogres but female Trolls, Tauren, Undead were hot enough(?)
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo 5 жыл бұрын
They struggled with that too. Undead originally looked like hunched humans with nightelf skin colors and female trolls weren't liked by the community and had to be changed into human women with tusks. Given the response to the trolls, they probably couldn't figure out a way to make an attractive overweight female model. Also this was way before THICC was in.
@Carpatouille
@Carpatouille 5 жыл бұрын
Well now that we can play fat models of women with kul'tyras, this won't be an excuse anymore, and we may see ogres one day.
@Niksorus
@Niksorus 5 жыл бұрын
Back to work! (i.e. kitchen)
@CJMattias
@CJMattias 5 жыл бұрын
Lmfao whats a feminist
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