History of the Board Game - Morals vs. Capitalism | US History

History of the Board Game - Morals vs. Capitalism | US History | Extra History

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Join us as we delve into the history of board games, from ancient times to the Victorian era's moral games like The Mansion of Happiness, and discover how George B. Parker's vision transformed games into the entertainment products we know today. Learn about his journey from a young innovator to the founder of Parker Brothers, a company that would shape the future of gaming.
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@extrahistory 5 күн бұрын

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@danielsantiagourtado3430 4 күн бұрын

Love your content guys! Keep up the good work! Can't never get enough of your amazing content😊😊😊❤❤

@also_arles 4 күн бұрын

Finishing up this video made me realize how much I'd like an Extra History card game...😆

@nubbythecatsister8565 4 күн бұрын

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@gyllenspetzfamily7993 3 күн бұрын

Can you explain why in this video fun and morals are mutually exclusive?

@stratisgeorgilis7703 4 күн бұрын

Fun fact; Parker Brothers now prints more Monopoly money per year than the US Mint prints actual US currency

@huskadog7748 4 күн бұрын

Id hope the us dollar was less inflated than monopoly money lmfao

@Rehteal 4 күн бұрын

Good, that's how it should be.

@huskadog7748 4 күн бұрын

@@Rehteal exactly lol

@MLJFireDragon747 4 күн бұрын

I wouldn’t be surprised if that isn’t the case anymore.

@huskadog7748 4 күн бұрын

@@MLJFireDragon747 don't be so pessimistic, inflation isn't that bad, and you know monopoly money is more common than real money

@Gigawolf1 4 күн бұрын

"You can't use dice, that'd be gambling!" *hands kids roulette wheels*

@TheJacobG 4 күн бұрын

Now I'm imagining a modern Buddha being like, "Sorry bro. I can't play Fortnite tonight. Trying to achieve enlightenment."

@hurgcat 3 күн бұрын

Only those who practice the dandori of Pikmin 4 are attuned to the 8 fold path

@subtlewhatssubtle 4 күн бұрын

Now here's a fun topic, literally. My anthropology professor once said "History has proven one thing: humans *must* play" in part because it's not only how we socialize with our peers, but also how we learn about our environment and practice our responses to it in a situation with relatively low consequences (ie, the inherent risk in coin flips or 50-50% odds can be trialed *before* you decide to chance it on whether the berry you're holding is toxic or not).

@zachgaskins3731 4 күн бұрын

It allows us to not only test out ideas in consequence-minimal environments, but also allows us to set up voluntary challenges and obstacles, and see them defeated, which is a sweet dopamine hit.

@fipachu 4 күн бұрын

Although learning some basics of statistics is pretty much necessary to temper the most egregious misconceptions about odds your meat computer will come up with observing random events.

@nuru666 4 күн бұрын

It's also crucial to the development of abstract thought

@Ggdivhjkjl 3 күн бұрын

Ask the colourblind if the berry is toxic.

@macsnafu 3 күн бұрын

Right. So the Victorians weren't wrong about childhood preparing people for adulthood. But they still had to suck the fun out of it in an attempt to provide religious moral instruction.

@crocowithaglocko5876 4 күн бұрын

I love how EC still keeps sneaking in a Walpole Easter egg whenever they can We see you Walpole

@Captine3250 4 күн бұрын

Bit of a fun fact: Civil war soldiers would paint chess or checker boards on some cloth and carry it around with them for entertainment. They would also paint the boards on the lids of cracker boxes when in more permanent camp. Card and dice games were also HUGE in the civil war, with accounts of soldiers throwing away cards and dice before battle as not to be caught with them in death. Of course most of the games played had a gambling aspect to them.

@mikewinans5091 4 күн бұрын

I would have expected Monopoly to be a natural evolution from the Banking card game, but i am surprised to learn that Parker Brothers actually didn’t even make it.

@billcipherproductions1789 2 күн бұрын

Same

@MinunRobotnik4 4 күн бұрын

I won a mug for guessing "Snakes and Ladders" when I was attending a public event held by the Indian Student association talking about "What game was used to explain the concept of karma to children" or something like that. Pretty sure I learned that from one of your other videos. Whatever the wording of the question was, it immediately made me recall Snakes and Ladders, so that's what I answered from the audience. ...or rather I won a mug because I knew the answer, whispered over to my friend sitting next to me what the answer, and when they said the answer I shouted "I KNEW IT." And because they had lost track of whoever actually raised their hand to answer, they handed me the mug. My brother keeps using it.

@oofman4572 4 күн бұрын

How does snakes and ladders teach karma? To my knowledge every move in that game is randomly determined by a diceroll, and climbing a ladder has no effect on if you hit a snake in the future. You could even argue that going up ladders DECREASES your chances of landing on a snake since you can pass snake tiles while climbing a ladder, meaning you dont have to risk accidentally landing on said snake.

@codebracker 3 күн бұрын

@@oofman4572i think the idea is that snakes and ladders represent the seemingly random nature of karmic retribution, as in you got a ladder because you did something good in the past

@sub7se7en 3 күн бұрын

@@codebracker That doesnt sound right

@jossgoyanko7006 Күн бұрын

@@oofman4572It's about accepting your fate. The player has no input whatsoever on their progress, just as you have no input on the karmic retribution based on your previous life. You can only accept it and let go of the illusion of choice.

@raymickens440 3 күн бұрын

Fun fact: Monopoly games only last "long" because most people dont play with all the rules or frankly dont play taking advantage of the full mechanics

@aidendrinkwateroldaccount 3 күн бұрын

This. Nobody knows about auctions...

@drillerdev4624 2 күн бұрын

What do you mean I can't play a +4 on a +4?

@m-edesharnais5409 4 күн бұрын

7:27 How many fingers are you growing, Mat?!? 😆

@zachgaskins3731 4 күн бұрын

Matt, there's a Spaniard outside who's been looking for you...

@darknessunknown4384 3 күн бұрын

@@zachgaskins3731 "Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father, prepare to die."

@blaster915 4 күн бұрын

Double combo episode!! Let's go!!

@extrahistory 4 күн бұрын

Yes!

@Iceykitsune 3 күн бұрын

To put those Dr. Busby sales numbers in perspective, that's equivalent to over 300,000 units sold today.

@EdsBrain 4 күн бұрын

Even though i am a millenial, i couldnt forget the countless christmas days playing board games with the family and majority were parker bros board games.

@LexiLunarpaw 5 күн бұрын

Havent seen World Anvil in a while! I Love this show!

@extrahistory 4 күн бұрын

World Anvil is one of our favorite sponsors, always good to have them back. Thanks for watching!

@iSmartMan1 3 күн бұрын

If you've ever seen a Parker Brothers game called Rail Barons, my mother knew the man who created it. She still has one of the vanity printing copies of the game he gave her, with the original name Boxcars.

@Codex_of_Wisdom 4 күн бұрын

Oh hey, Extra Double Feature. Very nice. I also would like to recommend Shut Up and Sit Down's "8000 Years of Board Game History in 43 Minutes." If you have 43 minutes to spare.

@zacharythomas8617 2 күн бұрын

Wat?!

@Traveler-254 4 күн бұрын

I haven't been around in a long, long time, but seeing "It was Walpole" brought back so many memories good god.

@zachgaskins3731 4 күн бұрын

I would LOVE to see you guys do a limited series on board game history (both US and beyond).

@KingAmroth 3 күн бұрын

Love the Balatro reference @ 4:35 Also, wrt 5:34, a spinner generates an even distribution whereas 2 dice are more "normal" and favor the middle numbers.

@codebracker 3 күн бұрын

Or you could just use a 12 sided die

@also_arles 4 күн бұрын

The kids at the very start of the opening wearing your merch was a really cute detail!! 😁

@vivalapita8484 4 күн бұрын

7:27 You have six fingers on your right hand...........someone is looking for you.

@aaronbasham6554 3 күн бұрын

Is his name important?

@danielsantiagourtado3430 4 күн бұрын

The kids at the start are wearing EH merch ! So cute and creative detail🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@Wolfeson28 3 күн бұрын

"Another case of Monopoly-related violence." "How do those Parker brothers sleep at night?"

@PlutoTheSynth 3 күн бұрын

7:25 i wasnt expecting that jumpscare D:

@hamiltoneuzarraga6546 4 күн бұрын

No mention of the Nintendo company getting it's start as a card publisher? Particularly the hanafuda cards?

@markadams7046 4 күн бұрын

American Experience on PBS did an interesting documentary on the history of Monopoly. It's a different narrative than what the makers of Monopoly would tell you.

@danielsantiagourtado3430 4 күн бұрын

Always love to learn from you guys! Thanks For this 😊😊😊😊

@KyleRayner12 4 күн бұрын

Victorian morals being the reason for the lack of free will in games explains Candyland rather handily.

@JamesDavy2009 3 күн бұрын

Ah yes, the candy-themed race to the finish when drawing a card tells you what colour to advance to.

@valmid5069 4 күн бұрын

So you are telling us…we played it wrong the whole time!? Can’t wait for more historical content from this channel!

@germanomagnone 4 күн бұрын

3:43 in Italy it is called "il gioco dell'oca" = "the game of the goose"

@Eggzrgoood 4 күн бұрын

I love gambling in board games because I am always the winner.

@Celestial_Reach 4 күн бұрын

Interesting story. Thanks for your hard work guys

@crazyman8472 4 күн бұрын

If you don’t like the rules…change the game. 😎

@Seadalgo 3 күн бұрын

Surprised this didn't go all the way up to Tornado Rex; that theme song is still stuck in my head from its rollout

@kimberlylewistyner2070 3 күн бұрын

0:01 it’s 3d!!

@indahbudiani4773 3 күн бұрын

WOW -Baldi

@povertymidas 3 күн бұрын

I was fascinated in games as a kid, if you look into the history of playing cards, chess, etc and how they developed around the world...well it might be an entertaining afternoon for ya!

@rainrune9073 4 күн бұрын

(0:00) Good job on the rotating cards!

@diarradunlap9337 4 күн бұрын

Milton Bradley founded his game company in Springfield, MA (Massachusetts) in 1863. During its run (Milton Bradley merged with Hasbro in the 1980s), it created classic games like "The Game of Life," "Operation," "Simon," and "Connect Four."

@JamesDavy2009 3 күн бұрын

They even took over the licences of games that were published by John Sands.

@rainrune9073 4 күн бұрын

Senet was a board game in Ancient Egypt

@doomdimensiondweller5627 4 күн бұрын

Is the always have a plan shirt a reference to Bismarck ?

@jesseberg3271 4 күн бұрын

I think so.

@privatefellow6589 4 күн бұрын

From the mist a ship is taking from

@davea6314 4 күн бұрын

At 3:29 "...lead soldiers for boys..."🤔 Brain damage from excessive lead exposure they didn't know about back then.

@nikujaga_oishii 4 күн бұрын

If not consumed or inhaled, they'd be relatively safe

@davea6314 4 күн бұрын

@@nikujaga_oishii A very young boy is likely to put a lead toy soldier in his mouth. The older boys probably wouldn't.

@Ryu_D 3 күн бұрын

Thank you for the video.

@ponyote 4 күн бұрын

Okay, now you should do one about Clue and why it's called Cluedo in many countries.

@universe1879 4 күн бұрын

4:30 someone snuck in balatro

@charleswain6124 4 күн бұрын

You should definitely do one on Games Workshop - a company that now generates more money for the British Economy than the entire fishing industry,

@255ad 4 күн бұрын

hope this episode doesn't make me board

@louthegiantcookie 4 күн бұрын

Monopoly has destroyed more families than the Spanish Flu.

@Hebdomad7 3 күн бұрын

Monopoly is a game forged in the fires of hell and is an excellent example of what not to do when designing a board game. But from a game publisher perspective. It's an excellent example of a successful business venture.

@JamesDavy2009 3 күн бұрын

A lot of the time because the rules aren't agreed upon at the start of the game. Free Parking Jackpot was a popular house rule and the Delayed Action rule (complete a lap of the board before you start buying) was in the FAQs. More often than not the auction (when the active player declines to buy a property) gets skipped.

@Blairington 4 күн бұрын

algorithm cookie... but I'm disturbed about how Matt holding up that many fingers

@nubbythecatsister8565 4 күн бұрын

Monopoly back in the day🤣 Lets hope there dosent come a "Banking Go" XD

@FightCain 4 күн бұрын

Pretty solid stuff Never even thought how the board game industry started

@tylers1996 3 күн бұрын

I find it ironic that George Parker designed so many games based around trade and business management but fully admitted he sucked at it IRL.

@jacobshore5115 4 күн бұрын

I thought the game of life was going to be Candyland…

@MatthewTheWanderer 3 күн бұрын

I really like board games, but I very rarely play them because I have no friends to play with. 😞

@boyscouts83712 4 күн бұрын

And thus the creation of Monopoly was born

@papasgameriahd 4 күн бұрын

Watched this video on Nebula before it released! Great first impressions for Nebula!

@tonytins 3 күн бұрын

You can find the rules and guidelines for the Landlord's Game when searching for the patents.

@Bob-xn9qo 3 күн бұрын

Fun fact: my grandmother was neighbors with the Parker brothers

@zacharythomas8617 2 күн бұрын

I love this channel so much, stay classy.

@zaneywaneyheheheheh 4 күн бұрын

what a banger post

@Pawnlake 4 күн бұрын

Nice video

@danielsantiagourtado3430 4 күн бұрын

The art style always complinents the amazing narrative! Huge fan! Hearth please ❤❤❤❤❤❤

@matejhorvatic4376 3 күн бұрын

I just started reading "The Monopolists" by Mary Pilon, which talks about the origins of the Monopoly, Parker Brothers etc. Good stuff!

@Fox531CD 4 күн бұрын

I have _literally,_ had board games on my mind as of late. I just bought a book on the history of them maybe a week or two ago, and then _this_ pops up. ....Have you guys been reading my mind? STOP READING MY MIND! Seriously, though, I enjoyed this.

@nuru666 4 күн бұрын

I wondered how deep you guys dove into your research on this one until you mentioned Ur!

@drillerdev4624 2 күн бұрын

On the "oldest games" lists, I've missed Mancala, supposedly played with seeds on holes punched in the ground as a way of early ante play (and much more geared to skill rather than luck like in the case of dice)

@kchishol1970 3 күн бұрын

Would you be interested in creating an Extra History on the history of the role playing game genre?

@azealot7112 3 күн бұрын

4:32 Nice Jimbo Balatro cameo.

@thikiloramee5117 4 күн бұрын

This is awsome

@michaelciemnoczolowski9051 4 күн бұрын

"...feverish journalism..." Genious

@frankharr9466 3 күн бұрын

Games were fun for a lot longer than they were moral instruction. And I recognize the royal game of goose and go fish. But thank you for letting us know about the Parkers. :)

@mitchmegaw7201 4 күн бұрын

Great video and great topic! I would love to see one about the history of European board games as well.

@cofagrigusfan24 4 күн бұрын

as a Dutch, when I saw The Mansion of Happiness a different board game came to mind Ganzenbord (literally translates to: Geeseboard)

@natheriver8910 2 күн бұрын

Very interesting

@vnewtatnik 4 күн бұрын

4:07 oh! So nice to see this Lord!

@FakeBlocks 3 күн бұрын

Please do the Greek war of independence of 1821 against the ottoman empire next I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai!!.

@mkgaca8721 3 күн бұрын

4:34 i see you balatro

@scotandiamapping4549 4 күн бұрын

8:44 it's called Cluedo in the UK, I don't know why North America ever called it just "Clue"

@zachgaskins3731 4 күн бұрын

I'm guessing that the American audience wouldn't have appreciated the Latin pun ("ludo" = game) and just been confused.

@scotandiamapping4549 4 күн бұрын

@@zachgaskins3731 oh it's a pun?

@dinoleaf91 3 күн бұрын

The reason why it is called Clue is because Cluedo is a play on words with another game called Ludo which Americans know as parcheesi

@leestudios9948 3 күн бұрын

Can you do a series of Gwangaeto the Great?

@grapeshott 3 күн бұрын

Dice ❌ Spinner ❌ Random Number Generator ☑️

@demonicbunny3po 10 сағат бұрын

The Victorian focus on morals over fun is why it wasn’t until the mid 2000s that board games started getting taken seriously and not till the 2010s they started breaking into being a popular mainstream activity and not just a thing you do when it is raining and the power went or something. Modern board games would look at the moral vs fun debate and go “Why not both?” Modern board games are capable of having fun while also being able to teach. As an example, a game I really like is Tesla vs Edison (with the Powering Up expansion) which is mostly a stock market game. It shows how the stock market worked back in the day, how the DC vs AC battle was fought, and a lot of interesting little historical tidbits about events happening at the time. The history is baked into the mechanics and it is a rich, fun experience for it. Creating a fun game about being a moral person wouldn’t be difficult. It just needs a designer willing to make it. And there are already tons of games with churches as a prominent element, mostly the construction or decoration of as the theme.

@mr_j6662 4 күн бұрын

If you think about it gambling is a game and that's probably one of the oldest things in history next to murder

@grahamcann1761 4 күн бұрын

You didn't mention Parker Brothers and the Ouija Board. I could (would) say more, but I'm very biased (and prone to swearing on the subject). I worked for Wizards of the coast, and we acquired TSR (Dungeons & Dragons) and Avalon Hill (lots of military battle games). But then we were acquired by Hasbro which had Parker Brothers, Tonka, and many other companies under their umbrella (control); and I have a strong bias, Against the monopoly which is Hasbro! As always, thank you so very much for the videos.

@OneRealSilverRaven 3 күн бұрын

Oh yeah! This is my JAM! If you guys need an expert on games i was the 7 term president of the UofL campus table top gaming club. We won outstanding sports team 2 years in a row under my presidency besting all the nationally famous teams, and I would LOVE to consult!

@darknessunknown4384 3 күн бұрын

7:27 "You have six fingers on your right hand. Someone is looking for you."

@rosiefay7283 2 күн бұрын

Will this be part of a series which will take the history of the board game closer to the present? If so, I look forward to the rest of the series!

@anthonybird546 3 күн бұрын

The Parkers, the first gamers to Rise Up

@danielsantiagourtado3430 4 күн бұрын

DOUBLE COMBO?! THANKS FOR THIS GUYS ❤❤❤❤❤❤

@oopsy444 3 күн бұрын

BEHOLD!! 7:27 the most cursed frame in all of extra credits history!

@pickle9232 4 күн бұрын

I like birds

@llSuperSnivyll 4 күн бұрын

So Parker got rich because he realized that, in a game, entertainment is more important than the message. Why does this keep repeating...?

@255ad 4 күн бұрын

you should also post this on your other channel

@gonaldginkus6228 3 күн бұрын

🎶 Disappointment in the game of life! 🎵

@JamesDavy2009 3 күн бұрын

That was a funny sketch.

@macsnafu 3 күн бұрын

I'm intrigued by how games try to incorporate conceptual ideas. Sure, there's the "moral instruction" of games like Snakes and Ladders and The Mansion of Happiness, but chess and Go (and Risk and Battleship) are clearly about battle and conquest. Ultimately, a lot of board games (and card games) tend to be some combination of luck and strategy.