History of the Drumset - Part 15, 1964 - The Beatles

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Vic Firth

Vic Firth

10 жыл бұрын

The British Invasion occurred in 1964 when numerous British bands became popular in the U.S. -- all starting with The Beatles! After appearing on the Ed Sullivan Show, the audience watching saw Ringo playing with matched grip and it quickly became the default grip for many drummers!
In this 15-part series, Vic Firth and Daniel Glass will be looking at 100 years of drumming evolution. Learn about the key events and advancements that shaped the drumset we know and love today!
www.vicfirth.com/drumset-history
Visit the Vic Firth website today for an interactive timeline and hundreds of great photos cataloging the history of our instrument the drumset!
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@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 9 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to add that this was an excellent series. Interesting and informative.
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 9 жыл бұрын
Whenever The Beatles appeared on TV with a different guitar, sales of that guitar would skyrocket also. I can't imagine playing drums traditional grip. I don't know how they did it.
@DanielGlassDrums
@DanielGlassDrums 7 жыл бұрын
It's actually pretty easy once you understand the proper way to grip the stick and rotate the wrist.
@olaandersson3599
@olaandersson3599 9 жыл бұрын
Ringo is a Lefty and used as leading hand for the Toms. Maybe thats also a reason for him to change grip. From Wiki "I'm no good on the technical things ... I'm your basic offbeat drummer with funny fills ... because I'm really left-handed playing a right-handed kit. I can't roll around the drums because of that." Ringo says
@jimoutlaw5649
@jimoutlaw5649 6 жыл бұрын
The "Butter your bread" thing you saw Ringo do was an old jazz technique of keeping the beat steady. A kind of governor, the wider you swing the less time you have to go any faster. I still use it at times. Guys that know me will know that I'm trying to hold the tempo back.
@RobMacKendrick
@RobMacKendrick 3 жыл бұрын
Great insight! Thanks!
@davidbondzio9539
@davidbondzio9539 2 жыл бұрын
And RIngo did play on the back of the beat for effect, to hold tempo down and as part of his thing for swing
@legacyShredder1
@legacyShredder1 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Glass is my hero. It's safe to say that he's my favorite drummer by a large margin. I've been a guitarist all my life, but once I really found out who he was I started obsessing over the drums and rhythms more so than ever. So much that my wife went out and bought me a kit the day after Christmas. (I said I wanted absolutely nothing for Christmas, so she gave it to me the day after, and told me to deal with it. Wonderful wife.) I've been in studios and on the road pretty much since I was 13, and I had started to burn out. However that maniac has helped renew my passion in all things music. It's been too long since I've picked up a new instrument. I don't believe in being too late to start anything new, and certainly not if it's expanding my musical knowledge and experience.
@jeffreygaudreault
@jeffreygaudreault 7 жыл бұрын
Ringo Starr didn't play matched grip to get more power, man. He'd play matched grip because it was easier to play the drum set as a left handed person playing right handed on a right handed drum set. He was raised to do things right handed, because he was told doing things right handed was the proper thing to do.
@simonr7097
@simonr7097 7 жыл бұрын
This sounds pretty likely yes. Ringo also says that he plays his fills going up from floor tom to rack tom (e.g. "Come Together") for this exact reason.
@spercoco
@spercoco 7 жыл бұрын
What you said didn't make any sense. I'm a lefty that plays a righty kit. I can play traditional or matched grip. It's a matter of choice dude. I can get around the kit either way as many other drummers can. Matched grip is preferred by the large majority of rock drummers and traditional grip is preferred by the large majority of jazz drummers and marching band drummers.
@alaindautricourt7749
@alaindautricourt7749 7 жыл бұрын
jeffrey gaudreault 😃😃
@petemclinc
@petemclinc 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda like Jimi Hendrix, although he was actually right handed, wrote with his right hand...
@dcaccavo1
@dcaccavo1 5 жыл бұрын
The "Come Together" drum fill is not floor to rack. In fact, if you listen closely to a drum iso, the end of each fill goes all around the 3 toms, top to floor and bass drum (Hi, Daniel!)
@HarryJoiner
@HarryJoiner 3 жыл бұрын
6:27 - Incredibly overlooked lick.
@rolandgerard6064
@rolandgerard6064 10 жыл бұрын
Great series, could not stop watching, very professional..
@ShiftingDrifter
@ShiftingDrifter 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Someone finally explaining the source of the traditional grip - point being the grip is no reflection on the drummer's skills.
@scottmoyer1357
@scottmoyer1357 Жыл бұрын
The Beatles and Ringo introduced the Mersey Beat which was a stronger & more powerful back beat using rim shots instead of hitting the snare just in the middle. The use of the rim made it louder with a "cracK" sound to cut through the louder electric guitars and amps. His match grip was used because he didn't play traditional grIp and was not taught traditional grip.
@weehudyy
@weehudyy 11 ай бұрын
One of the things you have to remember about Beatlemania , it was the year after the Kennedy hit , two years after the Cuban Missile Crisis ... The Beatles sounded so fresh and new ... and hopeful . I started high school in 1964 ... It was The Beatles v Elvis ... I saw A Hard Day's Night and girls were screaming in the theatre ... then the Stones v the Beatles ... then Subterranean Homesick Blues and the world changed
@ronaldcammarata3422
@ronaldcammarata3422 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 60 and I still want to be Ringo. (24-year-old Ringo preferably.)
@davidcipolla4036
@davidcipolla4036 10 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Mr. Glass has done a phenomenal job with this project, bravo!!
@giulianosfichi1507
@giulianosfichi1507 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent, as usual. It's a pleasure to watch and listen to these stories. Thank you.
@jegostara
@jegostara 5 жыл бұрын
Great series! It would be cool to see more of those old school (pre-big band era, especially double drumming and traps) drumsets being explored and played.
@perrinyone1596
@perrinyone1596 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, but just a few corrections: he played match grip before there were screaming girls. Also, it was a bit American-centric; the U.S. was the last place to catch on, they were huge everywhere else. Also, I would have gone into his approach to fills, which was very influential. But basically, great video! I love how you talk about Ludwig having to stay open three shifts a day to keep up with demand, I didn't know that!
@-CYFR-
@-CYFR- 10 жыл бұрын
Great way to end off. Amazing series! Thank you!
@RossittoS
@RossittoS 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! These vic firth and Daniel Glass videos are AMAZING!!!
@rudyxrudy
@rudyxrudy 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great vide...Took me back to being 14 in 1964!!! We went so wild over the Beatles!!!! lol! great times....no group better.....
@sergeysmyshlyaev9716
@sergeysmyshlyaev9716 6 жыл бұрын
Great series! I wish it had a couple more parts telling us about fusion music and drumming.
@Starslope2
@Starslope2 9 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome show. Thanks!
@d4rthb4lls
@d4rthb4lls 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this series, it was very informative!
@subatomic10
@subatomic10 9 жыл бұрын
Very insightful and informative! I've often wondered for years about the historical formation of the drum kit.And u answered all my questions. Loved it ...(wish D.J Fontana got a mention )
@jamesf.ryaniii7918
@jamesf.ryaniii7918 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. D.J. Fontana (Elvis Presley's band) was the first mainstream player to play with a matched grip. Ringo gets the "credit" for matched grip because he had more exposure thanks to the popularity of The Beatles on television. Daniel states that Ringo used matched grip because "he needed to be louder" because of all of the screaming girls. Ringo used matched grip because his grandmother told him that left-handed people were "evil" and her left-handed grandson better learn to play the drums right-handed. Daniel also states that Ringo used a match grip because he used a small 20" bass drum. What?!?!?!?!? Matched grip or traditional grip has nothing to do with the volume of the bass drum. Then Daniel states that Ringo used matched grip so "he could really hit hard". Ringo did a lot of things....but hit hard was not one of them. Then Daniel states that using matched grip allowed Ringo to 'butter his bread' on the hi-hats. The choice of grip has no effect on how you play the hi-hats. as both matched grip and traditional grip use an overhand grip on the lead (hi-hat) hand.
@oteliogarcia1562
@oteliogarcia1562 3 ай бұрын
Ringo with the shoulder roll is the most Ringo thing
@KitCatStudio
@KitCatStudio 3 жыл бұрын
Great series! been following from some time and always share this with my students. Keep it up Daniel and cheers from Tel Aviv :)
@goseeaboutagirl
@goseeaboutagirl 10 жыл бұрын
I like that "buttering the bread" name haha. this is very cool!
@kjthekunoichi
@kjthekunoichi 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is i played some snare before and idk, am a rightie but my left hand will tend to swing as funny, maybe somthing like ringo since he was in some kinda awkward position, as he had to play in a right hander's drum kit altho he was a leftie, and when i played snare and esp when during deep into the song, my weaker hand which is my left became all swishy and swashy, like as if i was cooking, according to my friends... for me, i did noticed it one day as i subconsiously tried to and it looked like my drumstick was like the car's front windshield wiper😅😅😅idk... hahah!
@imagandy
@imagandy 10 жыл бұрын
great history series !!! big TX
@greatjblnut
@greatjblnut 5 жыл бұрын
My drum teacher, way back in the day, absolutely forbade the use of matched grip. Later in life I've used both grips.
@kfranco145
@kfranco145 5 жыл бұрын
As it should be. I was self taught and played match grip, learned traditional grip later on and it was difficult. I am teaching my son and starting him on strictly traditional grip. It will be much easier for him to learn brush technique and he will be able to switch to match grip without a problem.
@emutemusic
@emutemusic 9 жыл бұрын
Yep! Amazing, really liked the vid ! Music is the prime human invention isn't it? I'm so thankful to be a musician!
@KitCatStudio
@KitCatStudio 8 жыл бұрын
great. thanks Daniel!
@MarlyMofokinGnarly
@MarlyMofokinGnarly 5 жыл бұрын
Can I fast-paced "galloping beat" work with the traditional grip? hahaha! I'd love to try that sometime
@jlarsena
@jlarsena 9 жыл бұрын
Awww this is the last episode? I loved this series, especially this one because it's one of my favorite eras in music. Rush and Neil Peart come along in a couple of years. The beginning of heavy metal would be cool to see though. Hopefully there will be more to come, at least up to the mid 80s and thrash metal. I learned so much from this, even how all the endorsements started since Ringo made Ludwig the top company, so many other drummers would do the same. Ringo made me fall in love with drums, but Phil Rudd is the drummer who made me buy a set.
@DanielGlassDrums
@DanielGlassDrums 9 жыл бұрын
jlarsena It doesn't have to be the last one - it's just the tip of the iceberg, actually. All of this info is based on my 3-hr documentary, The Century Project, which gives you a MUCH bigger picture about all this material in the same entertaining way. More info here: danielglass.co/daniel-glass-store/
@jlarsena
@jlarsena 9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Glass Awesome, thank you so much.
@roybeckerman9253
@roybeckerman9253 3 жыл бұрын
Would loved to have seen you on a vintage 60s Ludwig for this segment, for authenticity and atmosphere..
@roybeckerman9253
@roybeckerman9253 6 жыл бұрын
Elvis’s drummer, DJ Fontana played match grip, long before Ringo became famous. Ringo played match grip, long before all the screaming girls.
@scullyxenagg
@scullyxenagg 3 жыл бұрын
Roy Beckerman, I believe that, in Elvis' heyday, people only noticed the star of the show. Girls would only look at Elvis, or Jerry Lee Lewis. Only a handful of people would look beyond the singer or the sax player. D J Fontana was essential to the sound of the classic Elvis recordings, but all eyes and ears were on the guy swinging his hips... That was another thing different that The Beatles brought: individual personalities, where all members of the band were known to the public, even if they didn't pay much attention to the instruments they played.
@theSupertonesurf
@theSupertonesurf 9 жыл бұрын
that was excellent thanks
@RalphWLundvall
@RalphWLundvall 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed seeing all the left handed kits. Likely yours?
@ChazOMac
@ChazOMac 10 жыл бұрын
Incredible Series! Big kudos to Daniel and all those who helped out ( especially Vic Firth of course ) Here's the playlist so far: playlist?list=PLZfbI09n0ih-gH4-M9Jm3c6r3DiCTcaIV&action_edit=1
@rhythmantic
@rhythmantic 9 жыл бұрын
Educating and entertaining!
@roybeckerman9253
@roybeckerman9253 5 жыл бұрын
Elvis’s drummer, DJ Fontana, often played match grip, before Ringo.
@ronaldcammarata3422
@ronaldcammarata3422 5 жыл бұрын
But nobody before had the same kind of influence on young drummers.
@herkulesstark9804
@herkulesstark9804 3 жыл бұрын
So Ringo's contribution to the history of the drumset was that he played matched grip??.....no sir
@robertdankovich6545
@robertdankovich6545 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this clip...I tried playing the drums but soon found out how uncoordinated I was...I envied people who could keep their legs and hands moving at the same time...I wasn't wired that way...I switched to piano and found that I could almost keep both hands going but not to whatever I was trying to play... my left hand could play by itself but not with my right hand...I relegated myself to just enjoying what I heard...I took a typing class in high school and found that the home row keys didn't make any sense to me... like my left side brain wasn't wired to my right side... If I held a hammer in my left hand my right side didn't know it was a hammer until I put the hammer in my right hand... really strange.
@kjthekunoichi
@kjthekunoichi 4 жыл бұрын
You need practice😊😊👍👍
@kjthekunoichi
@kjthekunoichi 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is i played some snare before and idk, am a rightie but my left hand will tend to swing as funny, maybe somthing like ringo since he was in some kinda awkward position, as he had to play in a right hander's drum kit altho he was a leftie, and when i played snare and esp when during deep into the song, my weaker hand which is my left became all swishy and swashy, like as if i was cooking, according to my friends... for me, i did noticed it one day as i subconsiously tried to and it looked like my drumstick was like the car's front windshield wiper😅😅😅idk... hahah!
@robertsmith5744
@robertsmith5744 5 жыл бұрын
Ringo was left-handed, it created his style and beat . . . . .
@oh_rhythm
@oh_rhythm 10 жыл бұрын
nice
@roybeckerman7843
@roybeckerman7843 2 жыл бұрын
ELVIS DRUMMER, DJ FONTANA, PLAYED MATCHED GRIP, BEFORE THE BEATLES BECAME FAMOUS. HE PLAYED GRETSCH IN THE 50s.
@LRS905
@LRS905 6 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain me what are those two small rubbery things at the lower part of the front of the bass drum? I have always been intrigued by those, but never have been able to know what those are. Mutes for the bass drum? Support only?
@Krzyszczynski
@Krzyszczynski 5 жыл бұрын
@@randysemenak2439 There's at least one video clip ("Sounds Of The Loop") where Joe Morello of the Dave Brubeck Quartet has to fetch the bass drum back into position - not surprising when you see how he thrashes that pedal. Does it without missing a single beat, too.
@lukef.470
@lukef.470 6 жыл бұрын
It’s so weird to think that the match grip was never the default grip. I can’t imagine playing my drums with the traditional grip!
@strawberryjam3670
@strawberryjam3670 4 жыл бұрын
I somehow do it all the time, quite comfortable actually.
@kevinmurray3945
@kevinmurray3945 5 жыл бұрын
Anybody know what kind of trumpet mute is @7:27?
@netzahuacoyotl
@netzahuacoyotl 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a plunger mute.
@Ekkie101
@Ekkie101 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Danny. EE
@duckygirl617
@duckygirl617 4 жыл бұрын
Baby boom
@mrpeel3239
@mrpeel3239 5 жыл бұрын
No mention that Ringo played rightie but is a leftie!
@archityps
@archityps 7 жыл бұрын
What song from titles? I forgot)
@riccardosciarpa4527
@riccardosciarpa4527 7 жыл бұрын
Richard Blackpool hey pachuco
@666blastbeats
@666blastbeats 9 жыл бұрын
The Blastbeats!! Oh..the beatles..guess they did something for drums too haha.
@GVike
@GVike 3 жыл бұрын
And yet every now and then you'd have a Stewart Copeland...
@ronaldcammarata3422
@ronaldcammarata3422 3 жыл бұрын
Copeland learned his drumming from some unique sources.
@pr1v1
@pr1v1 4 жыл бұрын
Why not start out with some great drum riffs? TLDW
@jamesgriffiths8587
@jamesgriffiths8587 9 жыл бұрын
How do Americans distinguish between Beatles and Beadles in conversation?
@theblakex
@theblakex 8 жыл бұрын
+James Griffiths we don't
@playlistmaker90125
@playlistmaker90125 5 ай бұрын
This is why we shouldn’t be praising Ringo…he influenced thousands possibly millions to take the easy route with matched grip instead of taking on the more challenging grip. Traditional grip…
@MalikEmmanuel
@MalikEmmanuel 5 жыл бұрын
My family is American and they never watched or cared about the Beatles....then again we are black.
@floriatosca6482
@floriatosca6482 8 жыл бұрын
you are talking about white music stollen from the real music,the black music,you know what i mean?
@spercoco
@spercoco 8 жыл бұрын
+Floria Tosca Wrong. Black American bands were playing black music and when the Beatles came over and other British groups their music was more melodic, more lively and over all more likable. Thus the British invasion and both white and black American musicians saw a drop in their own record sales. It's called competition. The British bands were just better!
@DanielGlassDrums
@DanielGlassDrums 8 жыл бұрын
+Floria Tosca The white/black dynamic (as far as who was the "inventor," and who was the "imitator" of different music styles) has been a very hotly debated topic throughout the course of American Popular Music. The Beatles' first four albums are definitely loaded with straight up covers of American rockabilly, rhythm and blues, early rock, soul and vocal group artists. But I wouldn't say these were "stolen" as the Beatles didn't claim credit for writing them. In fact, these covers may have brought the original artists more attention through their popularity (although that's a debatable topic as well). With all that said, however, most of what we remember the Beatles for today is their original music (maybe "Twist and Shout" is a notable exception), which definitely had its own character and sound. My opinion (and it's just one).
@spercoco
@spercoco 8 жыл бұрын
Daniel Glass Excellent points. The man knows his music!
@panhead55
@panhead55 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, he we go again... blah blah blah
@joesantamaria5874
@joesantamaria5874 3 жыл бұрын
Loved you at the Castel St Angelo......
@disc_golfing_with_d
@disc_golfing_with_d 6 жыл бұрын
You'd think he would talk about how Led Zeppelin changed the music world
@Sixalienasa
@Sixalienasa 5 жыл бұрын
Whats all this rubbish fit to do with Ringo.
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