History of The French Language

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In this video, we discuss the language of France, how it developed, and then how it spread around the world.
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@doigtsfrancaisfroids3962
@doigtsfrancaisfroids3962 4 жыл бұрын
I'm throughly impressed. Of course, you hit my nationastlic feelings by mentioning Cajun French and the long history that we have. In North America, Les Québécois take most of the action, but we're fighting for our language too. :D
@minhee7
@minhee7 4 жыл бұрын
@Doigts français froids Keep the good work, we had a hard time trying to keep french alive before the law 101. Bisous de la part d’une Québécoise.
@dominiquebeaulieu
@dominiquebeaulieu 3 жыл бұрын
Je vous admire. Mais je suis triste en même temps.
@lecoureurdesbois86
@lecoureurdesbois86 Жыл бұрын
On a plus de reconnaissance tout simplement car nous sommes plus nombreux... Il faut quand même que tous les francophones d'Amérique restent têtus et continuent d'exister
@andrewslatten5189
@andrewslatten5189 Жыл бұрын
Je suis de la Louisiane
@deyzacvincent3091
@deyzacvincent3091 27 күн бұрын
Bien content mes frères de 🇫🇷♥️
@meeeabb8412
@meeeabb8412 4 жыл бұрын
Disclaimer : french isn't an official language in Algeria despite the fact that it is widely used in different fields and services.
@sunnyjim1355
@sunnyjim1355 4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear.
@lebebeve4881
@lebebeve4881 4 жыл бұрын
Meee Abb but in uni you have to speak French especially if you’re going into the sciences mathematics engineering or technology related fields.
@FRLoca83
@FRLoca83 4 жыл бұрын
@Mø Nälayé It's historical. Algeria was part of the French Colonial Empire for a long time and the usage of french was obligatory. Still today they speak it because France is the place Algerian want to go to be successfull (lawyer,doctor,engineer...) so they learn French to be able to enter french universities.
@yassers5970
@yassers5970 3 жыл бұрын
@Chad Alphabeta How can you say "I have to send a report challenging the error in my tax return to the Finance Ministry before end of financial year, or else I will be fined" in Tamzigh/Berber?
@daylonmurray8068
@daylonmurray8068 3 жыл бұрын
The relationship between Algeria and French is complicated. It used to be the sole official language until independence and even for many years afterwards, as the whole administration was French-speaking. The people who gained prestige and power also maintained French to differentiate themselves from the rest of the population which either speaks Algerian Arabic or Amazigh. French is still widely used and is so omnipresent in some services and the market that erasing its use is nowadays nearly impossible. You may even request communication in French as it’s still also used by the administration and only later translated to Arabic or Amazigh. French is still a de facto official language. Besides, some people want to maintain or even promote it as they now share some cultural values with France, yet some don’t and would like Arabic to be the sole official language. The problem is that a large percentage speaks Amazigh (Kabyle etc) too and the Arabisation not only sought to replace French with Arabic, but also Amazigh; which may be one of the reasons it failed. Only the future will tell how the language situation will be in 50 or 100 years...
@indigo9732
@indigo9732 4 жыл бұрын
As a French citizen, I feel grateful about the Cajuns who kept their language. With the other Acadians and of course the people from Quebec, the French language as it was spoken two centuries ago was preserved, while in main France our language changed a lot. I feel grateful about people al around the world who tries to lurn my language that I love
@roylebeau1158
@roylebeau1158 4 жыл бұрын
Mais tu viens d'ecrire cela en anglais.!!
@StandWatie1862
@StandWatie1862 3 жыл бұрын
@The Squatch yeah it's a shame. I'm the only one in my family really interested in passing it on
@uwuowo7718
@uwuowo7718 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad telling you this but in 1921 French was made illegal to be spoken in classrooms and banned from being taught. Parents thought teaching children English was an attack on their culture. Parents refused to let their children go to school but the government made them. English speakers had a catchphrase which was “Don’t speak Cajun, Speak White!” Schools started hiring teachers just because they spoke English. Eventually the schools punished kids for speaking French. If you spoke French you would be humiliated, have to write many lines, have detention, be expelled, etc. Parents stopped teaching their children French believing it would give them a better life. Cajun French is on there brink of extinction. I don’t know how many French spears there were before the language was banned but it was the common language. Now only 3% of the population speak French. There are attempts to revive the language but it will take a long time for it to be back to the way it was.
@StandWatie1862
@StandWatie1862 3 жыл бұрын
@@uwuowo7718 it'll never be back the way it was. It was my grandpa's first language. The Smithsonian would record someone like him. Not you or I learning it second hand. Best thing we can do is teach our kids.
@uwuowo7718
@uwuowo7718 3 жыл бұрын
@@StandWatie1862 You are right. People can be taught it but it will probably be seen as a secondary language and never anything more. It’s sad the Acadians were forced onto a ship and deported to an unknown land just for their defendants language to be taken away.
@linkluver_izn
@linkluver_izn 4 жыл бұрын
As a huge francofile and french student livin in Missouri I’d like to point just a few cool details 1. The French R developed after ‘Old French’ so if you hear recreations of old French it sounds much more like other Romance languages. 2. There is actually another branch of North American French that’s called Missouri French or Paw Paw French. It likely will die out in the next 20-40 years and is rapidly dying but it’s quite interesting none the less.
@MultiChaga
@MultiChaga 4 жыл бұрын
There are places in MI that have French names.
@dominiquebeaulieu
@dominiquebeaulieu 3 жыл бұрын
Sad
@dominiquebeaulieu
@dominiquebeaulieu 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same as Québec's french spoken in the country side when I was young, or at my grand-parents' time : fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ais_du_Missouri
@ebenizerb.schlestertrappdu6943
@ebenizerb.schlestertrappdu6943 4 жыл бұрын
Comme d'habitude, ce fut très intéressant. Merci!
@thomashughes4859
@thomashughes4859 4 жыл бұрын
18:15 - (Just tossing this out there for discussion) - The Babylonians used a base 60 because those angles were very easy to divide. Adding a 30-60-90 right triangle (1, 2, 3^(1/2)) to a 45-45-90 triangle (1, 1, 2^(1/2)) would give you 15 degrees. Making sundials for several thousands of years was super easy to get the hour lines. Also, the factors of 60 are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30, and 60. These are very easy to calculate lever (pullies and gears) ratios as well. The French 60 is easier before the base 10 system on very practical levels. Of course (off-topic), the Mayans and Aztecs used base 20 systems, which were just as practical with 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, and 20 factors, which helped them map the heavens. Fun stuff!
@jeremiedomenico
@jeremiedomenico 4 жыл бұрын
Vive le Québec et la langue française !! ⚜️💙🌎
@dainn0668
@dainn0668 4 жыл бұрын
Vive la langue française⚜️
@meurzei4005
@meurzei4005 2 жыл бұрын
Vive le Québec libre !
@stuarttusspot4769
@stuarttusspot4769 4 жыл бұрын
My French self is very pleased with this video. It is just as good as the video you made on France's history. Please keep it up my good sir :)
@IDontWantThisStupidHandle
@IDontWantThisStupidHandle 4 жыл бұрын
Quand t'es québécois et que tu n'as pas besoin de sous-titres ni de traductions... ; ) Nice video!
@M_Julian_TSP
@M_Julian_TSP 4 жыл бұрын
Euh bah je suis français et pareil en fait
@doigtsfrancaisfroids3962
@doigtsfrancaisfroids3962 4 жыл бұрын
J'suis cadien donc c'est le même cas avec moi aussi. ;)
@goofygrandlouis6296
@goofygrandlouis6296 4 жыл бұрын
@@doigtsfrancaisfroids3962 "JE suis", pas "J'suis". C'est du français paysan ça.
@doigtsfrancaisfroids3962
@doigtsfrancaisfroids3962 4 жыл бұрын
@@goofygrandlouis6296 *C'est du français paysan CELA. Non, on écrit le français comme on le parle. "T'es" "T'as" "J'suis" vous autres en France êtes très prétentieux et ça m'énerve toujours. Dis moi quand les français savent écrire et puis je t'écouterais. "Sest bon. Sa me fait rire." Les français ne savent plus écrire, les francophones en général pour être précis.
@goofygrandlouis6296
@goofygrandlouis6296 4 жыл бұрын
@@doigtsfrancaisfroids3962 LOL. Je te fais marcher. Après si des métropolitains font des fautes, c'est juste parce que le niveau scolaire chute en France :( On est en décadence en ce moment..
@colink.4868
@colink.4868 Жыл бұрын
I love your French speaking and non-use of any accent other than your own. Right on brother! I love it! Bravo. Keep history pure and always be yourself 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😂😂😂
@maxfarley2519
@maxfarley2519 3 жыл бұрын
The Romans also had a version of caballo, caballus, which was used instead of equus in vulgar latin.
@frenchopotamus
@frenchopotamus 4 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how fast you can learn a language when you *have* to. I went to France for a month with a pocket dictionary. By day 3 I could order food and ask directions. By the end of the first week, I was thinking and even dreaming in French. When I left, I could understand most normal conversation, and engage in some myself. Upon returning to the states I passed a first year language exam from a French university. Shortly after I went to Louisiana and couldn't understand a word of their French.
@orpheonkatakrosmortarchoft4332
@orpheonkatakrosmortarchoft4332 4 жыл бұрын
Louisiana French, or Cajun, is very distinct from metropolitan French.
@eliphas_vlka
@eliphas_vlka 4 жыл бұрын
And if you haved stay 3 more days you could have learn the french insults xD
@clavierpixelkey650
@clavierpixelkey650 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you didn't end up cooped up in a hotel/hostel with English-spealing expats and travellers and somehow managed to socialise with the francophone locals ^^. What was your French level when you took the exam? A2? B2?
@frenchopotamus
@frenchopotamus 4 жыл бұрын
@@clavierpixelkey650 I was lucky enough to stay with French host families around the country in Paris, Provence, and several others. I don't recall what the exact level of the exam was. This was nearly 20 years ago now.
@joannewilson6577
@joannewilson6577 4 жыл бұрын
rire...Je te crois.
@gaenorwilliams007
@gaenorwilliams007 Жыл бұрын
I live in Brittany and now children learn Breton in school in some cases as a first language (I think since the 80s), so all the young generation speaks Breton
@laflame6793
@laflame6793 4 жыл бұрын
Oui, j’aime manger la piscine a demain
@JasonCarbon117
@JasonCarbon117 4 жыл бұрын
Moi aussi, j'adore les oranges du miel
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 4 жыл бұрын
D'accord ! J'aime met le chat pour l'avion avec la boulangerie !
@ieattacoss
@ieattacoss 4 жыл бұрын
i like eating the pool too ! see you tomorrow
@tommyn1209
@tommyn1209 4 жыл бұрын
J'aime bien brouté de la moquette!
@rurushu8094
@rurushu8094 4 жыл бұрын
La Flame you eat swimming pools?
@jeanclaudealexo2167
@jeanclaudealexo2167 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video man. Was looking for some motivation to gear up my French learning and you def provided it!
@NicverAZ
@NicverAZ 4 жыл бұрын
Umlaut is called "tréma" in French. And the Belgians also use septante, octante and nonante. It has been proposed to update Metropolitan French to use it.
@eyquemesque
@eyquemesque 4 жыл бұрын
Octante is not said in Belgium. It's septante, quatre-vingt, nonante. It's only in Switzerland where octante and huitante is used...
@oliveranderson7264
@oliveranderson7264 3 жыл бұрын
We only use septante and nonante not octante/huitante
@lucisferre6361
@lucisferre6361 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as always. I could have watched another hour of this, easily.
@samuel.28col8
@samuel.28col8 4 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect continuation of the video about latin. Keep up the good work and happy new year.
@Napsssy
@Napsssy 4 жыл бұрын
I like your videos so much!. For such a saturated platform like KZfaq, your videos and your research seems really legitimate and polished. Kudos my friend.
@kendy4425
@kendy4425 4 жыл бұрын
Étant québéquoise, je peut dire great video. It would be nice if you can do a video about current language that come from french, for example haitian créole, cajun or chiac (a New Brunswick language) and the other I dont know about. English is my second language and because of roman I can understand some spanish even if I've never studied it.
@edoboss101
@edoboss101 4 жыл бұрын
I strongly wish that you'll do a video about my native language, Italian, in the style of these documentaries about Latin and French. Keep up with the good content, always a pleasure to watch
@tohuvavohu
@tohuvavohu 4 жыл бұрын
Really love your channel. I'm going to get on Patreon soon. You're a true inspiration, thank you for your hard work!
@Fireoflearning
@Fireoflearning 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@awbinn3377
@awbinn3377 4 жыл бұрын
This is one great video (as well as the whole channel), well done & keep it up mate!
@claireseclaudet4993
@claireseclaudet4993 11 ай бұрын
This was a great video!! Thank you
@CoqPwner
@CoqPwner 4 жыл бұрын
As a native French, I find English's grammar the simplest among the three languages I know. (English, French and Spanish, though my Spanish is terrible) Can't say about how easy it is to learn though, as I learned English as a child, when it was much easier than Spanish, that I studied later on.
@dominiquebeaulieu
@dominiquebeaulieu 3 жыл бұрын
English grammar is not always simple. How to make the subjunctive form in English? Do you write "a 2-week travel" or "a 2-weeks travel" pour "un voyage de deux semaines"? When do you use simple past or past perfect? How to build conditional structure? "Turn left, right now", do you turn left or right?
@larrybrennan1463
@larrybrennan1463 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominiquebeaulieu The fact is, it generally doesn't matter. English is not an inflected language. The order of words is the basis of English grammar. Even if you don't get the form of the word right, the meaning is made clear by where it is in the sentence. "Tarzan see Simba" may not be "good" grammar, but the meaning is clear. If you put a word in a place where a verb goes, the word is a verb, thus Shakespeare could use "uncle" as a verb. (Richard II, Act 2, scene 3) And in a children's book I read, "Well ma'am" is a verb. (Angry Mrs. Peppercorn to a man who tried to cheat her: "Well ma'am me no Well ma'ams!"
@LazierSophie
@LazierSophie 2 жыл бұрын
Si la grammaire est facile, la prononciation est extrêmement difficile. Non, l'anglais est une langue la plus difficile qui soit. Votre commentaire montre que vous ne maîtrisez pas la prononciation anglaise.
@LazierSophie
@LazierSophie 2 жыл бұрын
@@larrybrennan1463 I disagree with you. Unless you like speaking a foreign language as though it was a pidgin, formal English is very difficult to master. Moreover, the English pronunciation system is the most difficult (one) that I have ever studied in my life. It took me 20 years to be able to master the English pronunciation correctly. Twenty years.
@larrybrennan1463
@larrybrennan1463 2 жыл бұрын
@@LazierSophie Mastering "correct" pronunciation in almost any language is difficult for a non-native speaker. You forget dialects and regional differences. What is the correct way of speaking Spanish? There are regional variations in Spain itself, not to mention in other Spanish-speaking countries. A person from Montreal would be immediately identified in Paris as someone who's not from around here. The Argentinian writer Jorge Borges preferred to write in English because of its flexibility in grammar and usage.
@alexandredufresne7464
@alexandredufresne7464 4 жыл бұрын
j'aime beaucoup ton accent ! And I love the scripting & content, you're really really good I really admire what you're doing KZfaq would prove such a dark place without people like you! Sincères amitiés l'ami !
@fablefaces3785
@fablefaces3785 Жыл бұрын
tres formidable Thank you for this video. Very informative.
@bhromur
@bhromur 4 жыл бұрын
Je trouve que tu as très bien traité le sujet, merci pour la vidéo.
@richardbennett4365
@richardbennett4365 4 жыл бұрын
Good point about four score and quatre vingt! It was one thing I learned from this video. Obrigado.
@franck4727
@franck4727 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I happened to watch your videos from time to time and as always it's really interresting. Au passage vous parlez bien français.
@imagreatguy1250
@imagreatguy1250 2 жыл бұрын
Very well made, merci beaucoup 👍
@Alithel
@Alithel 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a history of Wales and how it's been shaped over time
@stevenmoore4612
@stevenmoore4612 4 жыл бұрын
I like the French language! I found as an English speaker it’s the easiest language to learn after Dutch-Frisian and “Low German”. I took both French and German in high school, and I can say that German for me was a bit easier to learn than French, but French was still a great language to learn! Tolles video mein freund! Super video mon ami !😁
@rb3872
@rb3872 4 жыл бұрын
What's Dutch-Frisian? Do you mean Frisian spoken in the province of Fryslan in the Netherlands? As far as I know, it is the only Frisian around with an official status, so calling it Frisian would suffice. Or do the Frisian languages in Germany and Denmark also have some official ststus? And if so, are they that much different? As a Dutch guy, I can't even understand Frisian. German has more in common with Dutch than Frisian.
@larrybrennan1463
@larrybrennan1463 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever read Mark Twain's essay "The Awful German Language"? He says, " I would rather decline two glasses of beer than one German noun."
@stevenmoore4612
@stevenmoore4612 2 жыл бұрын
@@larrybrennan1463No I’ll have to look into it. I mean German is kind of a stern rough language, but it’s still a beautiful language in its own right.
@larrybrennan1463
@larrybrennan1463 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenmoore4612 Mark Twain felt the same way. He liked the language. But his essay is hilarious.
@antivalidisme5669
@antivalidisme5669 4 жыл бұрын
What a great way to spend your New Year's Eve, sorry I mean your Saint Sylvestre's day late afternoon, watching your video while dealing with odds and ends before partying of course! Unfortunately though I'm part Basque and Gascon and lives near Bayonne in the very southwest corner of France, my Basque is abysmal. Doesn't change the fact its grammar has been extremely intriguing and appealing to me for quite some time to be fair. Happy New Year sir. Cheers!
@bestsport9044
@bestsport9044 4 жыл бұрын
Do one on the Italian dialects and languages, it will be a hell of a work but greatly interesting :D Happy New Year man, keep up the good work in 2020 :)
@georgekhalifah9541
@georgekhalifah9541 4 жыл бұрын
I love this chanel I cant imagine youtube with out it keep going u are the best in youtube history chanel keep going
@edwardpetre-mears2997
@edwardpetre-mears2997 3 жыл бұрын
ha you have a picture of my home town of Huelgoat...genial!
@eliphas_vlka
@eliphas_vlka 4 жыл бұрын
Super vidéo ! Good video
@annastinehammersdottir1290
@annastinehammersdottir1290 4 жыл бұрын
An excellent tidbit of cultural knowledge. Bonne année.
@bigbigfizzi
@bigbigfizzi 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I think that a lot of people would be interested in learning how Latin came into being, esp. how it divided out from P.I.E. All in all, excellent vid. Your link to your Patreon is not displayed as a direct link due to it not being written with a forward slash at the end.
@Lenno94
@Lenno94 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent résumé de la langue. J'connais la chaîne depuis un bout, mais j'suis agréablement surpris de voir un vidéo sur le français.
@ceasarandrepont5331
@ceasarandrepont5331 4 жыл бұрын
As a man of French/Canjun/ Creole lineage of Louisiana. I really enjoy your thesis and you summarize it beautifully. Your French accent needs work. French was the spoken language in my family.
@francoislegallio4238
@francoislegallio4238 4 жыл бұрын
Vive la langue française!
@britanie96
@britanie96 5 ай бұрын
This was a really good video! I learned more about my language! I’m French speaking from Quebec, Canada. ☺️
@BFDT-4
@BFDT-4 4 жыл бұрын
I learned stuff here. That makes it a great video.
@peterdore2572
@peterdore2572 2 жыл бұрын
felicitations pour ta prononciation des mots. C'est tres bien
@windturbine6796
@windturbine6796 4 жыл бұрын
C'est une très bonne vidéo. Love to see some good French stuff out here. I'm Canadian myself, but the French we learn at school is Metropolitan, so only Quebeckers speak Quebec French.
@windturbine6796
@windturbine6796 4 жыл бұрын
@Азат Арыстанбекұлы thanks! i wasn't really sure
@Oxmustube
@Oxmustube 4 жыл бұрын
Азат Арыстанбекұлы it goes both ways in Quebec, but the feminine form is used more.
@stealtheli
@stealtheli 4 жыл бұрын
That was awesome!
@monicacall7532
@monicacall7532 4 жыл бұрын
Merci beaucoup!
@JustT0m752
@JustT0m752 3 жыл бұрын
really good video
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex 4 жыл бұрын
Just*an 👌 would be nice to see some videos about dalmatian, occitan, and other forgotten romance languages
@clavierpixelkey650
@clavierpixelkey650 4 жыл бұрын
"vingt" is the correct spelling. Anyway, interesting video!
@fredpauze2707
@fredpauze2707 4 жыл бұрын
Super vidéo Justin! Cheval est un bon exemple d'un mot qui a une racine non latine, mais il y a aussi toute la catégorie de mots qui sont aussi dérivés de ''equus'', comme équestre, équitation, qui ont trait au cheval, au cavalier (ou chevalier) et à la cavalerie! Aussi, the female of the cheval is the ''jument'', and the offspring the ''poulain''. Thought you'd find it interesting if you didn't already know. Have fun with that et merci du Québec! ;)
@PierredeCur
@PierredeCur 3 жыл бұрын
Flemish is a dialect of Dutch, not of French, despite the fact that it borrows some words and expressions from French, but its definitively a variation of Dutch, not of French, as implied in you map around minute 6.
@romain6275
@romain6275 8 ай бұрын
the map is about the languages from France
@will2Collett
@will2Collett 2 жыл бұрын
Merci Monsieur
@mrcastillo4240
@mrcastillo4240 4 жыл бұрын
Today, I found out that creole and french are related. Because my mom was at a nail salon doing her nails; when I sat near a Haitian lady. She was talking to some girl about something. Then, I asked her a question in French. Her face lit up as if she was a little girl when I spoke in French to her. Then she answered me happily. After she answered me in French, she asked me in English "Where did you learn to speak creole? Did you learn how to speak creole in school?". Then, I told her the truth, that I'm studying French at school.
@josephstalin6647
@josephstalin6647 4 жыл бұрын
You said the same thing in Stanley's comment
@jeffkardosjr.3825
@jeffkardosjr.3825 4 жыл бұрын
I was in a supermarket near me. There was a Québécois family there traveling through. The cashiers were wondering where they were from after they left. So to have fun I start speaking French to the cashiers. Just so happens there's a Hatian couple there as well. So I chatted with them a bit.
@zecle
@zecle 4 жыл бұрын
haitian is greatly different than westindian which is different than the frenchified reunionan creole. please always specify which one you're talking about.
@holyempressw8531
@holyempressw8531 3 жыл бұрын
Haitian Creole was developed from the French language! Haitian Creole is 95% French vocabulary words. Coming Mostly from old 1600s 1700s French
@Pointillax
@Pointillax 4 жыл бұрын
Love it ! An advice on pronounciation as the " ¨ " accent can be tricky. A vowel that has a ¨ is pronounced on it's own regardless of the group of letter it's in. In that case "oïl" is litteraly pronounced has "oil" in english
@licite3696
@licite3696 4 жыл бұрын
I'm French and that's the rule, but you don't follow this rule with this word, so why the accent ? In fact with which accent ? There's no way to write this pronunciation with any of our accent or letters. Seriously how would write ? oille but that would not be completely that. That's something. It's like aïe. I feel like we put an accent there just because we needed something but didn't know what. Que fout l'Académie !
@eyquemesque
@eyquemesque 4 жыл бұрын
@@licite3696 I don't understand your point. What do you mean when you say that the accent is not relevant ? Your examples prove the contrary in fact :D Aie would be prononced "èe" without the ï. And oil would be "oal" instead of oïl...
@hugobourgon198
@hugobourgon198 2 жыл бұрын
Oc-il > oïl (was a hiatus at first) Furthermore, the "o" sounded "ou" and the final "l" went silent, which ended up being pronounced "oui" just as the modern word. ;) The "oil" (diphtongue) pronunciation might have existed since there were a lot of dialects, but it seems it was marginal.
@jacobparry177
@jacobparry177 4 жыл бұрын
History of the Welsh language next, right? ; 3 Also: Hep Brezhoneg, Breizh zo maro.
@wheresmyeyebrow1608
@wheresmyeyebrow1608 4 жыл бұрын
Name a cooler French minority than Les Français Louisianais
@hollowhoagie6441
@hollowhoagie6441 4 жыл бұрын
Forgive me, I'm a beginner to Français, but wouldn't it be les Louisianas Français?
@phillweely2108
@phillweely2108 4 жыл бұрын
yes we are epic!!!!
@sammexp
@sammexp 4 жыл бұрын
@@hollowhoagie6441 because Louisiana is Louisiane in French and in French you never refers to a group of people living on a specific area with a "a" of "o" at the end as in Italian but by either "ais" "aise" "ois" "oise" "ien" "ienne" and the rule about it is not really specific, but "Louisianais" "Louisanaise" are right, New-Yorkais etc... Italien, Français, Hongrois, Allemand
@windturbine6796
@windturbine6796 4 жыл бұрын
Les Québecois. Fight me.
@phillweely2108
@phillweely2108 4 жыл бұрын
@@windturbine6796 i would but i dont wanna be killed
@falconajc4113
@falconajc4113 4 жыл бұрын
French (from my Canadian school education) was relatively easy to learn. I would not call myself fluent but hey. I respect quebecois and other such francophones for trying to learn a busted language like English even if they say the odd "yous guys"
@104thDIVTimberwolf
@104thDIVTimberwolf 4 жыл бұрын
Vraisment, monsieur. Tres bien.
@fairycat23
@fairycat23 4 жыл бұрын
...Mira, yo aprendí el español/castellano. 😂 Estoy sorprendida que "caballo" fue una palabra Gaulish. También, ¿son "cheval" y "chivalry" relacionados?
@fredpauze2707
@fredpauze2707 4 жыл бұрын
oui. chivalry, relating to les cavaliers, the knights. but there's also the latin root of equus: équestre, équitation...
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 4 жыл бұрын
I suppose it went like: cheval (french) -> chevalerie (french) -> chivalry (english). chevalerie and chivalry are almost pronounced the same way, only the first e sound is replaced by a i sound.
@LazierSophie
@LazierSophie 2 жыл бұрын
Sí, "cheval" y "chivalry" son dos palabras relacionadas con "el caballo". Chivalry (caballerosidad) se dice la "chevalerie" (caballerosidad y caballería) en francés. Saludos desde París.
@PierreYvesPau
@PierreYvesPau 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure about the meaning of colors in the map @6:06 but Breton and French are two entirely different languages (even if they have been borrowing words from each other as English did from Normand French). Breton is actually a close relative of Cornish and Welsh (Brythonic languages), imported from Britain, while Gallo is a Romance dialect inherited, as the name suggests, from old Gallo-Roman.
@forregom
@forregom 3 жыл бұрын
FUN FACT: The dialects spoken in The Netherlands and northen Belgium are sometimes refured to as Low Franconian (Nederfrankisch)
@TomcatModelKits
@TomcatModelKits 4 жыл бұрын
I have a huge soft spot for the French language. Without it I wouldn’t have passed high school lol.
@bapotet
@bapotet 4 жыл бұрын
je suis canadien français et ce video était très plaisant et éducatif
@metajaji4249
@metajaji4249 4 жыл бұрын
Marc-Andre Snyder i always forget if il faut faire la liaison avec le mot "et"
@sandwich434
@sandwich434 4 жыл бұрын
metajaji I am pretty sure «et» never makes a liaison with the “t”. It is always pronounced as “ey”
@metajaji4249
@metajaji4249 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan B so "eyedukatif" ???
@bapotet
@bapotet 4 жыл бұрын
there is no liaisons with the word "et". for what youre asking, its prononced "plaisant ey eyducatif" 😛 as opposed to "plaisant tey teyducatif"
@metajaji4249
@metajaji4249 4 жыл бұрын
Marc-Andre Snyder wait "eydukatif" ? wouldnt it simply be edukatif? why would that e be a dipthong?
@GingerAlle171
@GingerAlle171 4 жыл бұрын
Try this...I am native of the Spanish speaking language. I look like a "Viking" a Dane woman. Lol I moved to USA when I was 22 Took me about 4 months to figure out how to speak English. I am proud of myself. I am very interested in learning French and Latin.
@TTaiiLs
@TTaiiLs 4 жыл бұрын
Moi j’aime vos vidéos sur la France car tu les faits biens
@falconajc4113
@falconajc4113 4 жыл бұрын
I am a simple man I see something related to Canada and I click. But great video!
@SGTDROUIN
@SGTDROUIN 4 жыл бұрын
More related to Quebec regarding how the rest of Canada think about us these days..but hey xD
@bannermanigans
@bannermanigans 4 жыл бұрын
@@SGTDROUIN I'm a Newfoundlander born and bred and I'll be one 'til I die, but we don't view Québec as anything other than Canada here (not anymore, at least...)
@SGTDROUIN
@SGTDROUIN 4 жыл бұрын
@@bannermanigansThen i apologize if i sounded rude but if you take a look on the N.Post and about every english speaking media.. regarding the bill 21 or everything we do that is not in line with Ottawa, it's almost like we are about to be kicked out of the country and we're a bunch of peasants, rascists, intolerant fools we don't realize the chance we have to be in a country who barely acknowledge us a distinct. I know that it's not the view of all canadians and i know we have idiots too like every places in the world but... it's becoming tiring. On a different note, wich team are supporting in Nfld? :)
@bannermanigans
@bannermanigans 4 жыл бұрын
@@SGTDROUIN Most of Newfoundland is aggressively divided between Montreal and Toronto. While I don't pay much attention to any of it, my family are Montréal people.
@meandmetoo8436
@meandmetoo8436 4 жыл бұрын
16:57 tbh we just pronounce the s in the particles instead of at the end of the word made plural, makes more sense I think.
@ieattacoss
@ieattacoss 4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing as a native french speaker from quebec i can say that to us metropolitain french sound pretencious ( not to be mean or anything it's just how it sounds to most of us) and when it comes to counting it ight looks wierd and/or hard but to be honest you dont even notice it when you are used to it :)
@seb217able
@seb217able 4 жыл бұрын
France made french language evolve, you people from quebec still speak the french we used to speak in the 18 century Mais du moment qu'on se comprend tout va bien, et en France on aime bien le français québécois, on trouve ça 'rigolo' et ça déclenche une espèce de sympathie envers vous
@julesgouton945
@julesgouton945 4 жыл бұрын
ieattacoss i know in my family, when people attempt to speak metropolitan French, they call it Schocobi.
@SuperShiningDawn
@SuperShiningDawn 4 жыл бұрын
@@seb217able Le français au Québec en quand même évolué à sa façon en fait. Un français parlé en 1665 en Nouvelle-France, quoi que similaire, n'est pas exactement le même que celui parler aujourd'hui au Québec ou dans toute la francophonie au Canada en fait. Le truc c'est qu'en France, la noblesse s'est dit que ce serait mieux de prononcer toutes les syllabes, donc ils ont changé leur façon de parler et le reste de la population a finit par suivre. Parce qu'à l'écrit à part peut-être des tournures de phrase ou certaines expressions, on écrit le même français que l'on soit au Canada ou en France, on peut dire merci à l'Académie pour ça.
@Syl75
@Syl75 4 жыл бұрын
Je me trompe peut-être mais j'ai un peu l'impression que, avec le développement des échanges transatlantiques que permet le monde moderne, les Québécois adoptent de plus en plus le français métropolitain? I may be wrong, but I have the impression that, with the development of transatlantic exchanges that the modern world allows, Quebeckers are increasingly adopting metropolitan French?
@SuperShiningDawn
@SuperShiningDawn 4 жыл бұрын
@@Syl75 Je crois que tu te trompes, mais pas complètement, ça dépend des gens (parce qu'y a toujours quelqu'un qui veut se de donner un genre) et de la période, en effet dans les 60-70 si tu regardes des extraits d'émissions de télé on remarque qu'ils essaient de cacher leur accent et prendre un accent plus français. Maintenant ça ne se fait plus. Ce qui ce fait par contre et encore c'est surtout à la télé au cinéma (dans les doublage surtout) ou au théâtre, c'est de prendre, ce qu'on appelle, un accent international ou neutre, donc vraiment à mi-chemin entre le québécois et le métropolitain.
@johntavish8750
@johntavish8750 3 жыл бұрын
Ton français est très bon. Merci!
@tommyn1209
@tommyn1209 4 жыл бұрын
"Il y a du goémons sur le plein. On va aller en hâler!" This is pretty much the best exemple I can relate about the French-canadian language. There is more example in 2 videos made by an historian in the Gaspe peninsula in Québec if you are interested. They are in french tho. The word 'hâler' is derived from the english word 'To haul'. In this particuliar area, during the 18th and 19th centuries, a massive immigration from Eastern Europe (French, Irish, Jersey, English, Basques, etc) came into the peninsula because of the popularity of the cods fisheries. It's was then a big metting pot of cultural of western Europe in the same area. If you look at the Gaspé peninsula on Google map, you will see that the villages and towns names are a good diversity of both French and English, especially on the south coast. I'm hometown is one of them. French and other languages are always evolving.
@Oxmustube
@Oxmustube 4 жыл бұрын
The French spoken in Gaspésie and New Brunswick (Acadian) comes from a different part of France than Quebec French, which comes from the northwest region. It comes from St-Malo, which explain its difference. Several Acadian terms have influenced québécois, mainly coming from the maritime way of life. For example, when you get into a car, we use "embarquer", while it would usually be used for a boat only. A European french person would say "monter".
@Ptitnain2
@Ptitnain2 4 жыл бұрын
@@Oxmustube, not just Saint-Malo, but Picardie too. And Picard as influenced Québec French a lot. When you think of contraction, it all comes from that language. "Ché" instead of "Je sais", "Tsé" instead of "Tu sais", "S'qui veut" instead of "Qu'est-ce qu'il veut", etc...
@Oxmustube
@Oxmustube 4 жыл бұрын
Samuel Desjardins Absolutely! However linguists agree that Picard has has a lot more influence on québécois than on Acadian. Grammar in Acadian, like "je pouvions" instead of "je peux", would be typical of more centerwest regions. I go with what I have been told in school, but I have no personal experience . If you want, check out "la sagouine", where the actress speaks Acadian. I believe you can find some bits on KZfaq.
@cedricbali
@cedricbali 2 жыл бұрын
Merci
@chrislyons5556
@chrislyons5556 4 жыл бұрын
History of France part 2 please and thank you 😊
@Celestial1000
@Celestial1000 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would be awesome if next video would be on Siberian and central asian history :) Btw what's your mbti type?
@Fireoflearning
@Fireoflearning 4 жыл бұрын
INTP, I've been thinking about doing a video about personality types. I'm very partial to the Big 5.
@Celestial1000
@Celestial1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@Fireoflearning nice! , I'm ready for a new mbti video :)
@dimitrisorestis2983
@dimitrisorestis2983 4 жыл бұрын
I just came back from Paris.Wonderfull city, buildings monuments , history,glamour, metropolitan area of an empire for thousands of years.Mostly,i admired the resilience of the french people to make their pupet government understand that they are strongly opposing the desire of bangster Macron to screw them
@daniellanctot6548
@daniellanctot6548 4 жыл бұрын
Pas mal! 👍
@catmom1322
@catmom1322 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an American who studied French through High school & university...50years ago. Was once fluent; not anymore, sadly. I still love hearing it & learning anything French. I went to Quebec some years ago & I did have did have difficulty with their dialect.
@Vrin137
@Vrin137 4 жыл бұрын
Very educative, thank you! My friends would say you are correct! Heidi has her own language :) I sometimes mix foreign words as they sound nicer. Ok, I know you've meant 'Haiti' LOL.
@alnito66
@alnito66 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this reportage on the French language... it is absolutely clear and compulsory... except maybe for Alsatian language.... Anyway i would like to drag your attention on the fact that twenty (vingt) is written with the "g" after the "n" and not the other way round. Kind regards.
@TKUA11
@TKUA11 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on Slavic languages ?
@emmanuelflores3156
@emmanuelflores3156 4 жыл бұрын
I love this It has French plus I am learning it. Je suis Emmanuel.
@MultiChaga
@MultiChaga 4 жыл бұрын
Alors bienvenu au Quebec!
@meurzei4005
@meurzei4005 2 жыл бұрын
Emmanuel n'a pas trop la côte en France ;]
@sabrlz
@sabrlz 2 жыл бұрын
étant une québécoise de la ville de Montréal, I applaud you pronunciation of the -ieu sound. Not easy for many Anglophones. I left a comment on the second video of the history of France about two words I had to correct you on, I couldn't not do it. I happily volunteer if you need help or are unsure about certain words in French :) As for learning, being bilingual English/French, I can tell you that the grammar is the hardest part of French. I went to school in English immersion (both languages but most subjects in English) just outside of Montreal and my grammar is crap in French. But to be honest, many Francophones my age (25-35) also have crappy French writing skills so I do not believe that the difference between an English school and a French school has any bearing on it, we all take the same exit exams.
@LazierSophie
@LazierSophie 2 жыл бұрын
En permettant à leurs enfants d'aller à l'école anglaise en immersion, les parents québécois contribuent à la disparition du français dans la région de Montréal. Cela est bien triste.
@RachaelMarieNewport
@RachaelMarieNewport 4 жыл бұрын
Tres bon Justin, j'aime il
@warningpage8032
@warningpage8032 2 жыл бұрын
My heritage is from France. Starting from 1880 through now my family mainly speaks Cajun French and English.
@fullmetalalchemist9126
@fullmetalalchemist9126 3 жыл бұрын
I like this channel
@ProfessorBorax
@ProfessorBorax 4 жыл бұрын
6:05 this image does not illustrate the 'similar to french dialects', they are just languages spoken at least partly in France. E.g. Flemish is a series of Dutch dialects, and Alzassien is a dialect of German.
@ProfessorBorax
@ProfessorBorax 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Basque and Breton. Btw Langue d'oïl is said as oyl, not as o-il
@jackmason5278
@jackmason5278 4 жыл бұрын
You mention Richelieu founding an academy to maintain the purity of the French language. They aren't nearly as finicky as Quebec. I play a game daily on the internet called DKM Map-It. The objective is to identify five locations by looking around in something similar to Google "street view". Stop signs in most countries INCLUDING FRANCE say "STOP". Even in Russia they say "STOP" in the Latin alphabet or occasionally "СТОП" transliterated into Cyrillic. Quebec, however, insists by law on using some French word.
@Oxmustube
@Oxmustube 4 жыл бұрын
The government at the time who changed the signs did it for purely politic reasons. Not everyone agreed and a good argument for keeping "stop" was that that word has been acknowledged for a couple hundred years. I would have preferred "halte", not unlike Spanish, but ironically, we all say "stop" in our daily lives.
@Ptitnain2
@Ptitnain2 4 жыл бұрын
The difference between France and Québec on that matter, is that in Québec we are surrounded by a vast majority of unilingual anglophones. Which is not the case in France. So, our previous governement were strict. I did help a lot the preservation of French in Québec.
@jeffkardosjr.3825
@jeffkardosjr.3825 4 жыл бұрын
SVP arrêtez!
@traianima
@traianima 4 жыл бұрын
3:16 quick correction. The Balkans are situated south of the Danube river. Romania has strange position... we call it "Carpato-Danubiano-Pontic" witch means at the intersection of the Carpatian mountains, the Danube river and the Black sea.
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 4 жыл бұрын
To add up : - Frankish is the second source of word for the French language after Latin (composing 13% of the vocab) - As you said it also heavily influenced our pronouciation, French is a romance language with Germanic phonology (R, ü, ö, ä...) that's why it seems different for other Romance languages speakers.
@decem_sagittae
@decem_sagittae 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct. As a native Romanian speaker I have to say that French always sounded to me like Germanics trying to speak Latin. For this reason it's also like the most non-Latin Romance language. I have no trouble understanding Spanish and Italian but I struggle with French.
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 4 жыл бұрын
@@decem_sagittae Yes from what i know pronouciation is a real barrier for other Romance speakers, for us French rolling the "r" is a challenge while the German sounds are the same as ours so easy to pronounce and still we are efinetly romance...weird. :')
@Hamsterzilla1349
@Hamsterzilla1349 4 жыл бұрын
That's complete nonsense. French phonology has little, if not nothing, to do with Germanic language. Most of the the distinctive French phonological traits that people identify as « Germanic » are both very recent and found in *other Gallo-Romance languages*, far longer after the death of Frankish. Furthermore those features do not overlap with known areas of relevant Germanic settlement.
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hamsterzilla1349 First of all, "other gallo romance languages" Like ? :') because most of them are dead now, and in Franco provençal and arpitan the phonology is way different (actually the same as Spanish, Catalan and Italian). And French has this one because the Parisian French became standard after the French Revolution and was the heart if the Frankish power. Finally yes it does overlap, look at a map of the prononciation of the R sound in europe and you'll see, and that's only one example.
@arnoldhell8466
@arnoldhell8466 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hamsterzilla1349 tais- toi ! tu ne sais pas de quoi tu parles
@joshreynolds8417
@joshreynolds8417 4 жыл бұрын
2 years of French, 9 days in france, and I can still barely understand what you said
@vincentlefebvre9255
@vincentlefebvre9255 4 жыл бұрын
Some anglophones living in Montréal can't even understand french even if they lived here since decades !
@kaleahcollins4567
@kaleahcollins4567 4 жыл бұрын
Watch the movie History of the World by Mel Brooks they kind of touch on that topic of how the French language actually came to be from all these different languages to one unified one
@Mujangga
@Mujangga 4 жыл бұрын
Bonne année tout le monde!
@livvywrisinger9952
@livvywrisinger9952 4 жыл бұрын
Justin: *speaks French* Me, who knows nothing of the language: Oui
@skiteufr
@skiteufr 4 жыл бұрын
Your French is excellent. Really ! And yes, our way of counting is weird
@tiestofalljays
@tiestofalljays 2 жыл бұрын
pronunciation could use some further work
@MinecraftMan902
@MinecraftMan902 4 жыл бұрын
when did they change the r into what it is? erre is such a unique sound, why did they pick it up?
@mariethe_patate3696
@mariethe_patate3696 4 жыл бұрын
Quebec french speaker here. The Académie Française is perceived as a stiff and disconnected institution in recent years... It is composed of former politicians, scientists, and sometimes journalists and writers (but no linguists). So the gap between the written French and the spoken one is very huge (I am more familiar with Metropolitan France french and Quebec french), but the Acedémie still pushes for the 17th century French... Combined with the rise of the British empire in the 18th-19th centuries, this stiffeness of the French language is what I believe made it less attractive as a lingua franca. The rise of the American Empire definitively made English the new lingua franca of the world. For the future of the French, I am curious on what it will morph into... New medias show that is seems to have it own way depending on the region - here in Quebec, following the Académie rules is pretty much the last of my compatriot's concerns... ...which makes it barely understadable for a non-speaker. It seems to be the same in France - I sometimes struggle to understand written Metropolitan French.
@goofygrandlouis6296
@goofygrandlouis6296 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree with you. L'Académie Française prevented French to devolve into local languages, which is the fate of German: Ruhr Deutsh, Swiss Deutsch, Bavarian Deutsh, Dutch.. There is only one official language, mighty, clear and powerful. Although people in Quebec are stubborn about keeping "peasant" words / expressions into their vocabulary.Who knows why..
@wyattwahlgren8883
@wyattwahlgren8883 4 жыл бұрын
Merci pour la video Francaise!
@DeHeld8
@DeHeld8 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: not French, but Dutch is the actual descendant of the language of the Franks. More specifically linguists classify Dutch as a West low franconian language.
@tonyhawk94
@tonyhawk94 4 жыл бұрын
Yup ! And that's the reason why, weirdly, French and Dutch share 36% of cognates in their vocab as Frankish composes 13% of the French language, true story. :)
@meandmetoo8436
@meandmetoo8436 4 жыл бұрын
Luxembourgish to be more specific.
@DeHeld8
@DeHeld8 4 жыл бұрын
@@meandmetoo8436 Luxembourgish is a different branch of the same Frankish family. So Dutch and Luxembourgish are brothers, and Frankish is their father.
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