History of The Hobbit - The Most Underrated Speedrun
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Күн бұрынThe Hobbit could be the most underrated speedrun there is. With insane tricks, cool movement, a dedicated community and a rich history. You'll be surprised to see how this small but dedicated community kept breaking and optimizing The Hobbit even 18 years after its release. This is the history of The Hobbit speedruns.
This documentary has been a massive project that I poured my heart and soul into. I'm super grateful to everyone who supported me and everyone who has been a part of the community - be it player or spectator.
Support me on Patreon: / mkarma
Players' Channels: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Music List: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
The Hobbit Speedruns Discord: / discord
Leaderboard: www.speedrun.com/hobbit
My Twitch: / mkarmaa
My Twitter: / mkarma_
Shockster_'s Twitch: / shockster_
Shockster_'s KZfaq: / @sh0ckster_
Chapters:
00:00 - An Unexpected Speedrun
14:31 - Community in Motion
23:33 - One to Rule Them All
36:15 - The King's Plan
53:34 - A Warm Welcome
1:15:31 - The Game Done Quick
1:28:06 - Unknown Entity
1:37:41 - A New Chapter
2:07:32 - Platform Invasion
2:21:30 - The Final Milestone
Music Credits:
- Kubbi (Creative Commons)
- Patricia Taxxon (Creative Commons)
- Stevia Sphere / Glaciære / SteviaDX (Creative Commons)
- Nihilore (Creative Commons)
- Karl Casey (Creative Commons)
- Wintergatan (Using the Wintergatan license)
- Josh Vickers (Used with permission)
- faRk (Creative Commons)
- EMAYTEE (Creative Commons)
- Rockit Maxx (Creative Commons)
- Fred Mug (Creative Commons)
- Anttis Instrumentals (Creative Commons)
- Peritune (Creative Commons)
#speedrun #history #documentary #world_record #progression #the_hobbit #lotr
@acestapp1884 2 жыл бұрын
I was the lead programmer on the PC version of this game. Honestly I wish I could remember why we didn't have PC gamepad support, and the collision code was exactly the same between consoles and PC. Not sure why there are all those clipping issues, probably frame rate differences, but you're welcome. It's great seeing the love still being shown for this game. Great documentary and unbelievable runs.
@Chrixiam1998 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Chrix here, myself and a few others have been spending time looking into this game and its beta/history, do you think you'd be willing to answer some questions or potentially do a QnA with some of us?
@cpt_micky 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chrixiam1998 yo that would be so sick!
@jasonv.5938 2 жыл бұрын
Don't even worry about the clipping issues. I bought this on PC so long ago and shelved it for a really long time. When I finally played it I kicked myself for not doing so earlier. It's a damn fun game, and you guys did well.
@snbrmn9015 2 жыл бұрын
Source: trust me bro
@drowningin 2 жыл бұрын
@@snbrmn9015 if he's,not does that ruin your day? Just because you have done nothing with your life, and feel the need to lie on the internet(obvious because you suspect it of others) does not mean that is what the average person does. Oh, and source: the credits at the end of the game, and probably online somewhere. A source you are too lazy to look up
@Chrixiam1998 2 жыл бұрын
So after re-watching this, I just really want to say - Thank you for representing me the way you did. It's easy to mock my stubbornness in sticking with old routes, but you went out of your way to explain my mindset as well as the benefits that it can grant over time. Aside from just that, I love this video. It's an amazing showcase of so many people working together in different ways to push the game as far as we can, and I know this isn't the end of our story.
@MKarma 2 жыл бұрын
That means a lot from you man. This would have never happened without you
@DaNxFaM 2 жыл бұрын
👏 👏 👏
@JohnYoo39 2 жыл бұрын
Collrctive perfection requires many different people trying many different things. Thank you for your contribution.
@thomaseubank1503 2 жыл бұрын
How on earth do you do a speedrun? That is crazy!
@hezerd7184 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you guys rock. Such good sportsmanship.
@Daniel-kp1lz Жыл бұрын
Or spoiling anything, but the plotwist in this was legit one of the best ive seen in any media ever. Awesome video
@alex_demote Жыл бұрын
Read your comment and the twist still hit like a ton of bricks. Awesome stuff
@Righthandfrombehind 11 ай бұрын
well done
@T3CH-SUPP0RT 10 ай бұрын
I watched this video because I love listening to Speedrun histories but also because this comment had me so so so curious I finally got to it and I don't think I've said "wait what?? WHAT??" out loud in a hot hot minute but this was definitely deserving of that I was totally blindsided and definitely adds to the amazing quality of the video, the speedrunners who love it, and the charm of the game itself
@JosephWalker-ip7pd 10 ай бұрын
You need to watch more movies or read more books then lol.
@T3CH-SUPP0RT 10 ай бұрын
@@JosephWalker-ip7pd Do you have any you recommend? I've started asking for people to recommend books to me that they think people should read for my birthdays but I'd love to hear options throughout the year too!
@jedimolerat4774 Жыл бұрын
The plot twist actually made my jaw drop. Amazing work!
@kubakk40 5 ай бұрын
This one forced me to take a break, like literally 10 minutes earlier I was thinking how is author related to community, since he had to do a shitton of research for that vid. And then It turns out he was here all along :0
@TBSkyen 2 жыл бұрын
the PLOT TWIST at 1:30:50 oh my god
@sorek2372 2 жыл бұрын
I know right ?! Holy Shit !
@Sylvaras 2 жыл бұрын
Fancy seeing you here T B
@alertArchitect 2 жыл бұрын
I know, right?!? 100% expected the reveal to be Prunes, but the twist we got was still super cool!
@sam_wilds 2 жыл бұрын
@@alertArchitect Yeah same. I genuinely was sitting back in my chair saying "It's Prunes. It's obviously Prunes." ... "Oh." ... "OH"
@Ralkern 2 жыл бұрын
I see League lore isn't the only thing that draws your interest Give me that damn full arcane breakdown ím more addicted to arcane than Zaun is to shimmer
@LinaFleer 2 жыл бұрын
This was so good! I didn't see that twist coming and actually gasped!
@uncleslam9022 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Incredible presentation and development. You really can't make this stuff up.
@mraires3896 2 жыл бұрын
I have gotta agree, probably the best I have seen, especially with how things were painted... genuinely teared up a bit
@lordramdyx6139 2 жыл бұрын
Same, that actually made me shake my head and say "Wait, 'What?!'" out loud! That was a *Flawless* reveal.
@AustinViolence 2 жыл бұрын
What was the twist?
@joncolpaert8810 2 жыл бұрын
@@AustinViolence *SPOILER* the creator of the video being one of the WR contestants himself, he talked about himself in third person for the first half of the video in order not to reveal it. Fantastic video, MKarma!
@catalyzt9 2 жыл бұрын
I read the spoiler that there was a huge twist in this video, but didn’t know what the twist itself was. I spent the whole video thinking world record contestants perhaps planned to murder each other, and even that, didn’t prepare me for what the actual twist was. Beautiful video, beautiful game, and amazing presentation. Congratulations on a master piece.
@TheTownNarcoleptic 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate this guy telling us the name of and artist behind every bit of background music he used in this video? Truly a hero of our day
@guiguik21 2 жыл бұрын
2:00:10 ... i'll never forget that, it still hurts
@duffyp.weberva5612 2 жыл бұрын
Still an INSANE run. Well done. Bet your heart was pounding.
@muddycalendar3292 5 ай бұрын
Oh my that was fast
@odinlindeberg4624 2 жыл бұрын
"Unfortunately Aceprune died..." Me: oh no "... in Over Hill and Under Hill by falling down during the stone giants section" Me: Oh. Oh yeah, of course.
@moosecannibal8224 2 жыл бұрын
i had the same reaction.
@kirklandsignaturebarbarian3814 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same reaction lol
@NicksgamertagXP 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing lol. I got really sad for a second.
@erinidum 2 жыл бұрын
My exact reaction lmao
@smilesfordays 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never had that kind of reaction before it had been put that way haha. I think it was because of the visual cut with the emotional delivery of “unfortunately”. There is also a bit more of a pause that would be indicative of true tragedy. I think the portrayal of the kind of emotional crush from that happening was too good for the gravity of the situation. lol. I will say though... I wonder how many incredible runs, glitches, pov’s and contributions we missed because people just quietly died and their community had no way to know, or rather that no one was able to inform the community because individuals had no connection in a physical space outside of the community. The though of it got me a little ngl.
@j-skullz 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine going back in time and showing this video to JRR Tolkien and having to explain it all to him
@kota9087 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@shrimpguy6900 6 ай бұрын
Mf head would explode
@g_y.rtz420 6 ай бұрын
LOOK WHAT YOU DID
@sneekylilbast Жыл бұрын
For a year now this video has never left my mind, if I could wipe my memory and watch it again for the first time I would in a heartbeat. This is genuinely one of my favourite videos on YT
@MKarma Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words
@mikoro88 Жыл бұрын
Hah! I just did _exactly_ that!🤣 That's funny! I am watching it for the second time, and had forgotten most of it. So much so, that when it now came time for the plot twist, I had _completely_ forgotten it! To the point that even after reading a comment just above yours, saying the plot twist was the best he'd seen, I _still_ didn't remember! And I was completely caught off guard and by surprise! It's not all sprinkles and rainbows though. I smoked _a lot_ of cannabis, and did _a lot_ of drugs to get this bad memory. And it doesn't really help with much else than re-consuming media. So.. =/ But yeah, it's a good piece of media!
@WolfbytesIT 2 жыл бұрын
That twist got me. Possibly the most well produced speedrun documentary I've ever watched, I actually found myself invested in the stakes the runners had. Amazing work.
@lokiprime9108 2 жыл бұрын
In was confused about this comment until the twist hit me.
@SupaBlue64 2 жыл бұрын
It got me too. I was just more impressed that this documentary had a twist better than most movies. Very well done for sure.
@kill5170 2 жыл бұрын
omg for real this was amazing
@DAFIZZIF 2 жыл бұрын
Still watching but Matt Turk?
@adriancousins8667 2 жыл бұрын
Got me to dame
@MysterousBear 2 жыл бұрын
Man, every small community online deserves to be documented with this kind of enthusiasm. Just demonstrates we are surrounded with incredible stories!
@bilal5270 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrimMagician sonder
@murtaghk8408 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrimMagician yeah tat emotion is called sonder
@shadowman5670 Жыл бұрын
@@murtaghk8408 sonder?
@PaulRudd1941 10 ай бұрын
@@shadowman5670 it's a relatively new word. If I recall correctly, it's the realization that everyone around you is leading a life that is just as complicated, nuanced, and unique as the one you lead.
@ndescruzur4378 2 жыл бұрын
At the beginning: He died 3 times on this cliff but didn't do bad overall so it was a world record Later: He wiggled the camera for a frame which killed the run It is always cool to see how with every new optimization the speedrun becomes more sophisticate and close to perfect. Incredible story and video, probably one of the bests I've seen on youtube
@janah6473 Жыл бұрын
You have no idea how much i appreciate this comment. I used to speedrun portal in its infancy, and i soon stopped being able to compete because i wasnt mechanically gifted enough.
@Chrixiam1998 Жыл бұрын
ONE MILLION.
@treytreytrey 2 жыл бұрын
Schneider getting pissed off and slaughtering the record was some of the most gangster shit I’ve seen in speedrunning.
@krock0178 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up with this game, I'm happy there is such a dedicated fanbase to this game. Thanks MKarma and penguinz0
@zero1zerolast393 2 жыл бұрын
Out of all the Bilbo variation I've seen, this and the 70s Hobbit are in my option, the best
@mentalpopcorn2304 2 жыл бұрын
I use to play the first level on repeat as a kid, never would've found this awesome community and history without those 2.
@cubicinfinity2 2 жыл бұрын
The critics could say what they want, but I thought this had great gameplay!
@wolfenislife7248 2 жыл бұрын
@@cubicinfinity2 people seem to forget nowadays, that if you have FUN playing a game, who the HELL CARES if other people don’t like it/aren’t happy with it? Enjoying yourself should come first no matter what!
@leelduttis4086 2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfenislife7248 exactly
@lordmexican1897 Жыл бұрын
I’ve tried to find other speed run documentaries as good as this one. Nothing comes close. A masterpiece of KZfaq history for me.
@armored_guy 5 ай бұрын
I think you might like summoning salt. He makes very similar videos.
@tobyneff9793 2 ай бұрын
@@armored_guyI legit thought I was watching summing salt until the reveal halfway through
@groerhahn225 11 күн бұрын
There are other speedrun progress documentaries made by active speedrunners of the game, too. Don't remember any games(or names), though. But they're out there.
@yourXface1000 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a speedrunner, but i absolutely love watching history of speedrunning videos. i love the drama of new skips / tricks getting discovered and used. and GIRL. when you revealed the identity of iRule... i lost my mind. i was GAGGED. that was so masterful, thank you for the drama, and thank you for your contribution to the speedrunning community and for making this awesome video! much love!
@yourXface1000 Жыл бұрын
also it is by no means too long, i absolutely love long video essays haha, the longer the better tbh! especially when they are well written and edited like this one. well done!
@RaccChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be honest, this is everything I've ever wanted in a speedrunning Doc - it's absolutely so apparent that you've spent countless hours looking through exact changes to the routes and new discoveries. To tie up all of this while making it engaging and carry the gravitas of just how hard you and your contemporaries in the scene worked is an absolute feat. Thank you for this!
@PenelopeNaomi 2 жыл бұрын
They knew the exact changes, because *THEY WERE THE ROUTE!*
@duskshade520 2 жыл бұрын
Them being the route, does not mean that they wouldn't have to research to make sure they weren't misremembering dates and the people who originally discovered, or re-discovered forgotten tricks. Example, it would be a dick move to say "ye in october of that year, that person discovered this" when the truth is that someone else discovered it years earlier, but no setup or a shit unreliable setup made nobody wanted to grind said trick. @@PenelopeNaomi
@p1ruku 2 жыл бұрын
HOLY FUCK that twist was insane. i was literally just listening to this in the background but got really committed and literally said "WHAT!?" outloud with that reveal
@SteezyMPeezy 2 жыл бұрын
You could hear his voice the entire video smh
@x3dfritz0 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteezyMPeezy you got some bad vibes dude
@emilianoaventura5295 2 жыл бұрын
Very funny you mention it because I read this comment before the twist and when the twist came I said "WHAT?" out loud, I just remembered this comment and said to myself "wow the twist really was insane"
@ethandavies4623 2 жыл бұрын
SAME, I literally looked at comments to see if anyone else was zoinked by that twist lmaoo
@cytyzent 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting such a heartfelt, sincere outro like that. Honestly got me really emotional. I'm so glad to have watched this, it was so enjoyable watching all of this put together. You did a fantastic job here, and all the work you put in to make the game you love stand out.
@thegoodyearlimp6643 2 жыл бұрын
I summon the power of the KZfaq algorithm-this video tells a better story than 90% of the movies that have been produced in the last decade. Well worth the listen-10/10.
@noisemagician 2 жыл бұрын
You are a great storyteller, no, an amazing storyteller. I don't care about speed runs or the game but you had me interested the entire 3 hours.
@JustinLT212 2 жыл бұрын
It was like watching DBZ mfs left the platform for years and came back super powered (irage/mkarma) or there was the absolute monster that seemed unstoppable in Schneider this whole vid was just insane…
@dartinez9532 2 жыл бұрын
fr I've never played anything other than GTA but I've always enjoyed good content.
@phoenixphxx8130 2 жыл бұрын
Seconded
@CrescentLegend 2 жыл бұрын
Never have I literally gasped to a documentary. What an unreal reveal over half way through the video. Phenomenal work on this! Worth every second of watching and now The Hobbit has become one of my favorite speedruns I've learned of.
@darkranger116 2 жыл бұрын
same! I was like WTF
@SteezyMPeezy 2 жыл бұрын
38.00 you can hear his voice and is sounds exactly the same … are you like 5
@CrescentLegend 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteezyMPeezy Aw man, you got me. 5 year old here, reveal was still fantastic. Amazing WR video recap.
@artsenor254 2 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, I think the video's length is the reason why I clicked on this one. When people spend this much time in this kind of content, I know it will be quality, and much more immersive than a fifteen minutes summary. Beautiful video overall, I didn't know this game at all (which honestly looks great), and I had an amazing time watching !
@DrPancakesPhD 2 жыл бұрын
Yo I just watched this from critical. Even nine months later I just wanted to tell you you just such a great job on this masterpiece. It’s awesome to see you found something you and your community was so passionate about. It’s nice seeing that treated with such respect.
@SuPeRNinJaRed 2 жыл бұрын
With all this jumping and slope boosts they should rename it to the Hoppit....
@mraires3896 2 жыл бұрын
laughed out loud on this one... imagining how speed running a similliarly styled LoTR game, the Hoppit returns
@lemonybiscuits4824 2 жыл бұрын
Yoink. 🐰🐰
@MD_Pi 2 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece
@destroyerdee9587 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude
@eldonhill4840 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job on all your glitch hunting work dude!
@juggerdawg4505 2 жыл бұрын
md pi you're a masterpiece. you beautiful game breaking person.
@depppata Жыл бұрын
This is a true masterpiece. The main story of the unknown hero, the reveal and finally the "retirement" and support of his competitor. I love the storytelling and even though I've never played the game it feels like i did.
@dawgchain Жыл бұрын
I fell asleep watching some easteregg videos, then I woke up to this playing and was so caught up in the story I could not even try to sleep until I saw it through. Hollywood should take notes on how to make a wholesome and engaging story.
@NopeNopeNope9124 2 жыл бұрын
Back around 2013 or 2014 when you had the WR, I remember you taking your own free time to actually teach/tutor me on how to speedrun the game, I didn't make much from it, and I was just a dumb kid just getting into high school at the time. It's cool looking back on that still though, so thanks for the experience and time you took to help some random kid who was just curious and having fun with speedrunning
@MKarma 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I was happy to try to get more people into the community. Were you hsmboy or has my memory faded too much?
@NopeNopeNope9124 2 жыл бұрын
@@MKarma My username around then must've been Still_Alive, butimstillalive, or maybe dslyexiac. I think it was only a handful of sessions and its been forever so no worries about a faded memory lol. Wish you luck on your future speedruns
@MKarma 2 жыл бұрын
@@NopeNopeNope9124 oh dang it was definitely dslyexiac, and I remember calling you dsly. You came to my chat a lot back then, but I didn't remember you running the game too. Sick to see you're still around.
@usedTNT 2 жыл бұрын
butimstillaround
@flubzee 2 жыл бұрын
@@usedTNT w story based response
@YayaBunWa 2 жыл бұрын
This ain’t a flop, bro. What flop? This video was insanely engaging, and I’m not even a speed runner (or much of a gamer, even). Was worth all the effort, dude. What a fricking ride, haha. Was really clear to discern the different timelines - a massive accomplishment granted the sheer number of dates, personalities, and accomplishments. Congrats on successfully making every participant in your doco feel like an anime protagonist, lmao. What an sick narrative, yo~ A+!
@trintlauren3244 2 жыл бұрын
P 9pp
@mrpojsomnoj3313 9 ай бұрын
It's incredible how much love your community have for this game. PC competition between Old GameCube Gods was my favorite part.
@vore_jeff_bezos746 Жыл бұрын
CONGRATS ON 1 MILL VIEWS, you're easily my fave speedrunner
@MKarma Жыл бұрын
Thanks vore jeff bezos
@Dwhatever 2 жыл бұрын
what insanely well made video man, proud of you for finishing such a long piece of art
@MKarma 2 жыл бұрын
couldn't have done it without your feedback and encouragement
@SwogFrog 2 жыл бұрын
@@MKarma The sheer amount of editing and love for the history of the community’s in this vid is really heartwarming, glad you were able to share the story
@nilsjonsson1133 2 жыл бұрын
This was your first long-form video essay?! If the Algorithm picks up on this one, and I hope it will, you should consider doing more of these.
@MKarma 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I hope so. I wouldn't mind doing more of these if it's worth the effort.
@delk1299 2 жыл бұрын
Well I came here thanks to the algorythm, but not because it recommended it to me but rather because for whatever reason this video is sending lots of traffic into my runs and I have no connection to the hobbit whatsoever
@hippityxhoppity 2 жыл бұрын
Think it might be picking it up cuz this was just sitting in my recommended
@smilesfordays 2 жыл бұрын
I love things like Summoning Salt videos so this was no surprise to get in my feed, but what I didn’t expect was the quality. I took a chance on a 2 1/2 hr video and I am not disappointed. I also vote more please yes please document how incredible this sub section of speedrunning is as a culture within video games!
@gragigi7055 Жыл бұрын
This is easily one of the best speedrun history videos ever made. Especially with the neat plot twist that the video creator is actually one of the og world record holders. I just wonder how much time it took to write down the entire story, compile all the footage and edit it so masterfully. Can't wait to get this in my recommended again in a few years 🙃
@OmniVirusHS Жыл бұрын
This masterpiece has surpassed 1m Views. It deserves it.
@Mojo24717 2 жыл бұрын
If you get around to reading this; I'm a sucker for documentaries, and stumbling upon this at 7AM when I couldn't sleep has been one of the best KZfaq journeys I'm glad I stumbled upon. I'm sure everyone has mentioned the twist was one of the best done ever in a documentary, but for me, you're humility as a person and seeing your personal growth in how you talk about yourself and others in the community has been the biggest thing that stuck out to me. To be able to call yourself out on your past pride/mistakes in general is never a fun thing as a human. Literally after the reveal, I was mesmerized by your voice. The main thought was, "no way this is actually the guy who quit a while back... it's not the same guy?..." but you've changed and grown up wonderfully, and this documentary proved it. I had no care or interest in this game, and I may never touch it because I have too many other games I'm invested in; but this journey, this game, this documentary, I will always remember and definitely watch again because of how well done it is. Thank you for this awesome video, and I wish you well on your journey of speed-running and cultivating the awesome community that you have : D
@MKarma 2 жыл бұрын
I've been reading all the comments, good or bad. Thank you so much for the kind words. I'm really happy you experienced the documentary this way.
@SilenceEruptsGL 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible! Thank you so much for creating a comprehensive history of everything. I truly enjoyed every second of it :D
@smilesfordays 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being a part of such an incredible story. You pushed so hard. You all are so talented. Your dedication is crazy. Keep on it. Boundary breaking is so special.
@anopiniononyt9585 2 жыл бұрын
You're amazing!!!
@cheesecakelasagna 5 ай бұрын
Usually journalists/historians document stuff like this from the outside, so this so cool.
@ReddoX30 2 жыл бұрын
I don't speedrun the game, however I was hooked for the entire duration of the video! You really have talent for making videos, I really liked the plot twist at 1:30:50 :)
@nathancarter8239 2 жыл бұрын
Bilbo: I want an adventure! Bilbo, 11 minutes, 57 seconds and 433 milliseconds later: All done! Never doing that again. Great video! I loved seeing the history you shared in a community I'm not very familiar with.
@FloatingOer 2 жыл бұрын
Just in time to get back home for second breakfast!
@TheBonkleFox 2 жыл бұрын
Who needs an invisibility ring when you have reflexes capable of breaking reality
@sanklito 2 жыл бұрын
I never played the hobbit, I didn't even know of its existence, but I always like to see a world record history of any game. This is a masterpiece, I can't express how much I enjoyed watching it. Having no idea what the current wr of the game was great, I enjoyed the story and got excited for every achievement you told. The revelation at minute 1:30:39 was shocking, I didn't expect it at all. Thank you very much for making this video and congratulations to all the runners who participated in this magnificent story and this game, I am going to have to play it and try the speedrun.
@MKarma 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words :')
@persydiangelo8461 2 жыл бұрын
This comment is exactly my situation. And as a fan of speedrunning and Summoning Salt- Style history and progression videos, I'm blown away by this documentary. The editing is great, the writing is great, the music is great (I'm a massive fan of Wintergatan, so gasped at their music almost as much as I did the twist, which I'll have you know, covered me in goosebumps and left me giggling), and this run I great. Very well done sir.
@smilesfordays 2 жыл бұрын
@@persydiangelo8461 I full heartedly agree. What a ride. Even stories about speedrunning histories, as good as they are when SS and others tell them, are a different class when you see it in the eyes of someone who actually ran them in top 5 for so long. Everyone talks about the twist, but the last 30min right around the mine carts was the shocking and amazing segment to me. It was such a trip.
@Xenoclides Жыл бұрын
That twist was amazing. Having gone in completely unknowing of this games speedrun community, pulling out that Icebagel was iRule was one thing but for it to be a double reveal.. That was good. Really enjoyed the whole video even with it being nearly 3hrs, it never seemed like it dragged
@JustHackingAround 2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly my favorite type of video. With all the bans and deletions and defunct websites and out-of-print games that the Internet experiences over time, this sort of video is a valuable encapsulation of a segment of history which could otherwise have been forgotten or never known about by most people. Thank you for the incredible 2h 40min of content. I'm sure it took over 10x that amount of time to research and produce. I remember speed-running Super Mario 3 back in the early 90's, not even knowing speed running was a thing, but thinking it was pretty cool to beat it on my own in under half an hour. The Internet obviously changed everything, and such an incredible amount of time and effort is put into discovering and exploiting glitches for the sake of beating the fastest run. It's still a niche interest which has room to grow!
@Benco97 2 жыл бұрын
8:00 "Unfortunately, Aceprune died" I actually gasped before you continued to explain that he died IN GAME, slowing the run down. Something about the pacing and build up to you saying that totally made me think, just for a moment, that you meant IRL!
@Cainb23 2 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@JohnYoo39 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, dying IRL would slow down the run significantly.
@theblightcaller2188 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought, lmfao
@scolibro7163 2 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@JodediahHolems 2 жыл бұрын
SAME
@morningnapalm9963 2 жыл бұрын
1:30:39 Possibly greatest cinematic reveal I've seen. Also kind of amazing how these records get beaten whenever a player is the most non-chalant/relaxed VS when they're seriously trying to beat it. Awesome vid.
@Ty_Hill 5 ай бұрын
I never thought I would be so invested in a relatively niche speedrunning community of a game I had never heard of. Very well made video
@Ganymede545 Жыл бұрын
Every so often you find a video that you just cannot stop thinking about, and you just keep rewatching over and over again. This video is like that for me, absolutely astounding quality, the storyline, crystal clear mechanical explanations, the reveal, and the montages all add up to one of, if not, the best video's on KZfaq that I have ever seen. Thank you for this piece of art.
@LockeRobsta 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how obscure a game is, when someone puts as much love and attention into a topic and video as you've done here, people will flock to it. Fantastic video mate!
@ggaming8999 2 жыл бұрын
This game was actually really good
@mascarale 2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying for the last 15 minutes to write a comment about how absolutely fantastic this video is but I'm still speechless, peak speedrunning documentary.
@PatSpeedruns Жыл бұрын
You have no idea how many times I keep coming back to watch this video! I love watching it so much. It's so incredibly well made with fantastic commentary! It's one of the best videos I've ever seen in on KZfaq in general! You're awesome bro ❤️
@E1m0ren 6 ай бұрын
I knew nothing of any subject contained in this video prior to watching it. What an outstanding piece of work this collection of stories and achievements is. Thank you for creating it.
@inFamous1553 2 жыл бұрын
This is a beefy video but one of the best (if not the best period) speedrun history videos I've ever seen. None of the time is wasted and it covers literally every major development of Hobbit speedruns.
@MKarma 2 жыл бұрын
Really happy to hear that, thanks!
@awareclueless 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, there is no fucking way anyone and I mean anyone not knowing the hobbit community at all couldve predicted this twist. Your writing is sick and I loved every bit of the video. Nice stuff!
@TheOdMan 10 ай бұрын
This game looks unironically really good. I don't understand why I missed so many games around this time, I was 23 years old in 2003 and had been into gaming my entire life, but constantly I find myself having missed games that came out in the early to mid 2000's. It's interesting.
@Sir_Ninonino 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think I would end up watching the whole thing, but you delivered. You kept me on my sit, engaged with the history and rooting for the runners everytime they returned. Amazing video.
@nikmarshall2989 2 жыл бұрын
This game honestly looks just awesome to run. Look at Bilbo go jumping around and glitching through walls like a champ.
@smilesfordays 2 жыл бұрын
Oh lord he clipping.
@HollandTHG 2 жыл бұрын
This. This was beautifully crafted. 10/10 On the Twist, 10/10 on the structure, 10/10 on the representation of every major player in the history of the speedruns. Absolutely glorious. Subscribed.
@AstraKiseki Жыл бұрын
I heard this knowing the twist due to another documentary elsewhere. It was still well done and beautifully executed because I didn't know when the reveal would occur. Thank you for existing, it's fun to see this sort of passion and a willingness to illuminate people's povs with this stuff.
@nicklastakaki2091 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this wonderful video, my attention was all in for the whole runtime! Your ability to capture attention with a speedrunning community for a game I never even knew existed is fantastic. It also warms my heart with the abundance of support from every part of the community to share in something that you all love. Great work!
@Choolio94 2 жыл бұрын
I don't normally comment on KZfaq videos and I'm not really actively involved in speed running any games, and I've never played The Hobbit game, but this is one of the best produced videos I've ever seen on KZfaq. I'm a big fan of speedrun documentary content and this was absolutely phenomenal. The twist everyone was talking about blew my mind. What a fantastic video I'm very impressed with how much work went into this and keep up the amazing work!
@sigurdtheblue 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how you basically gave the important aspects of every speedrun to us instead of giving a vague description of the improvements. I can imagine how hype that first teleport trick with black arrow was. But I feel like I will watch this video again after I have seen the game and speedruns of it because of how deep this goes into the history.
@aldiswhylita7150 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this game when I was younger, and while I know nothing about speedrunning, it was just fascinating to hear MKarma go over all the info and explain everything so that I could easily understand it all. I have to keep checking the time of the video because I kept thinking there was no way it could possibly get any lower, then seeing I was only a third of the way through. Fantastic work to everyone involved on this video!
@margaweet Ай бұрын
This is by far one of the best videos I've ever seen!!! I absolutely love watching speedrunning, and learning the history behind a game's runs and community was just incredible and made me appreciate it so much more. Thank you for sharing!! xx
@meanleanmachine 2 жыл бұрын
I'm here from penguinz0, I think he and everyone agrees that u did a phenomenal job putting this video together. damn.
@endro7503 2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly better than most big budget sport documentaries i've seen. I'm glad I clicked on this video, almost ignored it for it's long duration. You have a talent for storytelling and editting. You made a 2h40 video with 0 boring segments.
@callmecancelled8038 2 жыл бұрын
A very good run
@xarkitux 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I've never seen a "The Hobbit" speedrun. Didn't know your channel either. This video was shown to me on my KZfaq homepage and it was the best choice to click on it and watch it to the end. At first I thought that your job/passion is speedrunning documentaries in general. I was so surprised at what a beacon you are to this community. How you present yourself and all the other runners and community members and tell a story, a journey from the whole "Hobbit" community. GREAT! I loved all of that! Thx for this great time. But not only you, but also all the other people you mentioned. A great trip! I feel your passion and heart for this story. And the best, to see such a heartwarming community, its more a team/family a shared success then a competition between you all. THX, you all!
@wrolfy3993 10 ай бұрын
I'm ecstatic that KZfaq blessed me with this recommendation. This is a beloved childhood game of mine and I'm so happy to see that it is still passionately played. Your documentary is very engaging and charming, easily holding your audience's attention. The twist, too, was unexpected and honestly wondrous! Thank you for producing this riveting video.
@scolibro7163 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game as a kid. Never got past the arkenstone level, then lost my copy of the game. Even in my adult years, I’ve tried to find it to no avail. I love this game, and am amazed to learn about the deep and rich history the speedrunning community has created for it. You guys are the best.
@monkeysk8er33 2 жыл бұрын
You honestly didn't miss much. It's really not a great game. I've played 90s games that still hold up to this day, but this is not one of those hidden gems.
@smilesfordays 2 жыл бұрын
@@monkeysk8er33 it’s funny how it’s such a mailable and fascinating speedrunning game that transcended being at best a mediocre and dated vanilla playthrough. I actually appreciate things like that. I’m reminded in a small way of Summoning Salt’s documentary of choco mountain in Mario cart 64. Never one of my favorites despite being a top 15% at worst of non professional/speedrunning players because of the linear nature of the high walls and narrow track. I always preferred almost any other track that let people come back and do unexpected moves that keep it fresh for me. The track really is be in first, or you ain’t winning... but the speedrunning aspect makes the lore one of my favorites from an objective standpoint. I’ll never pick that track on purpose on my N64 game night we have, I’ll never try running the speedrun tactics that make it unique... but I have grown to respect it in a way I never would have without those players running it over and over until it became more than the developers ever dreamed. I’m not saying you’re incorrect, but sometimes we don’t appreciate code and data in games as developers intended... but the gem comes out when you can look at it an another way.
@truffles635 2 жыл бұрын
Major props to Schneider he was there for a long time fighting even when chrix was breaking records. And the Schneider even got to hold the lead and continue to take it back. What a legend.
@viktorsvensson8167 Ай бұрын
Hands down the best video I have watched, I have re-watched it twice now, and I absolutely love the enthusiasm you show, as well as your captivating way of commentating and documenting the history of the game in a video. Truly a masterpiece!
@randomcartoon8901 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe that this person just casually dropped one of, if not the best speedrunning history video with just overall amazing EVERYTHING, and then didn't post anything after! It's insane!
@MKarma Жыл бұрын
oops
@alexanderflood1462 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna commend you for being so genuinely positive about all the runners here, even as one of the runners yourself. I really found myself rooting for each new person every time you introduced one! Thanks so much for the video
@DaniloGanzella 2 жыл бұрын
that plot twist mid-video was amazing hahzhaha
@michaelzborowskyii4668 7 ай бұрын
Everything about this is phenomenal. The community, the record runs, the sgdq showcasing... This video is great quality, very entertaining, and informative and the music throughout the video is so sick. I'd like to bump it on the car stereo while cruising. Edit: Even the comment section is fire. Nice end to my first day back to work after the new year. Happy new year hoping 2024 is a killer year for the speed running community!!
@digitaz6940 4 ай бұрын
Always loved this game as a kid (and still do), and only just discovered this video. What a masterpiece this is, it kept me hooked for the whole length of it. So much work has been put into this, and you can see it really payed off. Big props for making this, all your effort was definitely worth it. Thanks for creating one of my favorite KZfaq videos of all time.
@unepiccube9204 2 жыл бұрын
Simpleflips appearing on this video felt like a celebrity guest cameo in a tv show and im all here for it (Also him forgetting the speedrun route for the final level and doing the normal route seems like a bit he would totally do lmao)
@Mechimmortal 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd be watching a speedrun doc, especially on such a random game, but it was amazing! Communities like this make gaming great.
@jgvfdzugnyvfasnefj 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first time i sat through an entire nearly 3 hour video without skipping a second. I've seen many documentary focused channels that haven't even come close to interesting me in watching it whole as you did, even tho they where talking about things I am iterested in, while your video talks about a game i had no idea existed about 3 hours ago. You are amazing, good luck with future runs to you and the community.
@based_oregano 2 жыл бұрын
im so happy that AT started this trend of giving a full history of a speedrun in a long format. this is a very good video, and ive been playing the hobbit since i was a little guy. thank you
@madisonpetty9321 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most engaging documentaries I've ever seen - from the crystal clear timeline to the breakdown of individual tricks to the uninterrupted montages of sweet, sweet gameplay. Fantastic showcase of a game and a community, and it really speaks to the Hobbit community in general that it could inspire such a comprehensive labor of love like this video. I loved how long this was and I'm excited to see whatever comes next!
@JakeyDee 2 жыл бұрын
I don't watch speedruns, never heard of this game, don't know why I clicked on the video. But I watched 2 hours and 42 minutes about speedrunning a game i've never heard of and it was pretty great. Nice work :)
@2ndWord 2 жыл бұрын
I know I'm almost a year too late but man... this was probably one of the best speedrun documentaries I've seem in a long while. You even made me tear up at the end! I have a lot of respect for the speedrun community as a whole, it takes a lot of passion and dedication to do what you guys do, and in the way you presented the history of this particular game and community really showed how much passion you have for it. Personally I am not amazing at games to the point of being able to speedrun anything but it amazes me the pure talent some of you guys have, it takes a different kind of person to get the drive and (I have to use that word again) crazy amount of passion to dedicate so much time and energy to a single game, to break it apart, to become the best of the best and know the game inside and out! To all speedrunners a big hug and respect, and to you specially MKarma, I hope to me half as passionate about something I do as you demonstrated in this video alone.
@Justanoddpeach Жыл бұрын
My guy, all seriousness. This was incredibly well done. As much as it seems like youtube is very clearly on the back burner for you, should you do more I'll be there to watch it. I stayed up way later than normal just to finish it, because I refused to sleep without knowing how this would end. I didn't know I needed this information, but I am beyond grateful for your bestowing of this knowledge.
@MrKaxid 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, so, take this however you choose. I am a KZfaq addicted, however I tend not to watch too many uploads over 60min. This is a whole new level. I’ve never played The Hobbit, I’ve only watched the occasional Mario64, OoT and Halo Speedrun. I watched your amazing movie from start to finish. NonStop, no breaks, and loved it. You have created something with plot lines across a timeline, with alternate timelines and (no spoilers) I am so happy I stayed away from the comments and the scripted twists are executed so well. I completely agree with you’re creative decisions. Thank you so much for taking such incredible effort to make this incredible documentary and sharing this with a new community, and thank you to all the other members listed on the video for pushing each other forward to create the base plot to be able to write this masterpiece.
@mizunaut 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this game before until this video. I don't participate in speed runs myself, but I love watching others do it. It's always very interesting. I also love how saving "minutes" near the infancy of this run was impressive, but became more impressive as the runs got closer and closer. To the point where a few "seconds" were really all that mattered to make a break a run. W community, W players, W game, W video.
@velvetaeon2774 2 жыл бұрын
I totally missed this game too, the art style reminds me of the old cartoon movie.
@velvetaeon2774 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Just subb3d 🎟
@TheO.C.G 2 жыл бұрын
let me just take a moment to say the hobbit game isnt just amazing for speedrunning IT'S. AMAZING PERIOD hands down one of the best middle earth Games and its dirt MORE PEOPLE NEED TO PLAY THIS!!!!
@chompythebeast Жыл бұрын
I was wondering when you'd divulge your role in this play, as all speedrunning historians do, and when the reveal happened the way it did, I laughed out loud and immediately came down here to comment this and subscribe. Bravo, IceBagels, bravo
@plushdragonteddy Жыл бұрын
this video is so good !!! speedrun histories are so fascinating, and this one really made me feel like i understood the vibe in the community at different points in the timeline. i could FEEL the emptiness and lack of competition during the early PC days, and towards the end, i could also feel how much that had changed. amazing video, really !! i can’t wait to see what else you make :)
@truffles635 2 жыл бұрын
1:35:55 to 11:52 All that with in the last 18 years. You guys basically broke this game down to its core and figured everything about it. I’m am truly impressed and the video is amazing. Congratulations guys!
@truffles635 2 жыл бұрын
@genericjohnsmithname can’t wait to see man! So crazy that you guys keep discovering.
@truffles635 2 жыл бұрын
@genericjohnsmithname lol oh my bad haha, I see now.
@CorpusInsanus 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely captivating! To both find out my childhood game has a speedrunning community and be completely engrossed in its years of rich history was a joy. My eyes were glued to the screen through the whole thing, and the twist in the middle damn near floored me with how well you set it up. Bravo!
@RushedKK Жыл бұрын
This was one of my most favourite childhood games and after watching your video MKarma, man have you done this timeline justice. What an amazing effort from you and all the Hobbit speedrunners out there, you guys and your passion is awesome to watch.
@Jigsawn2 2 жыл бұрын
What a great speedrunning story! Just a pure passion project from start to finish, I love how the game gets slowly more broken and optimized over time. Your narrative was really engaging and I loved the twist, very well executed. It may be a long video but I don't regret it one bit, this is one of the best speedrunning videos out there. Congrats!
@froggyranger 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched this two nights in a row to help me sleep. That's not to say this is boring by any means. It's the exact opposite. It's a fantastic deep dive into the intricacies of an old game that brought hundreds joy! You did an amazing job on this video, and I pray it brings you success in the future of your career!
@franciscor390 2 жыл бұрын
True its almost told as a tale. Probably wasn't even intentional but ended up being a work of art.
@smilesfordays 2 жыл бұрын
I do this with legend of Zelda reviews. I have played through almost every game and appreciate other view points, but I can close my eyes and listen because I HAVE played it, and it calms me into sleep almost every time. It’s way better than ASMR. Lol
@theonlysinisharm 2 жыл бұрын
That nearly 3 hour timestamp really doesn't matter much if you can keep the viewers transfixed the whole way through. I don't know how you did it, but this is one of the best documentaries I've ever watched. I wasn't planning on watching the whole thing but I had to. You wove the story so well and I never felt like I needed to put the rest off for later or anything. Now I wanna make a video like this, I just don't know what it'll be about lmao Keep up the great work dude!
@smilesfordays 2 жыл бұрын
This is how I felt. I watch summoning salt so I already enjoy speedrunning documentaries, but had told myself I would give it a chance at least 20-25 min to feel out this new (to me) creator and I’m so glad I did. I hope he keeps making more. What a ride.
@velvetaeon2774 2 жыл бұрын
Remember to always skip the troll hole!
@Resimaster 2 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely exceptional documentary. You've got a clear and interesting narrative, loads of great stats, excellent pacing and an all round experience that has kept me coming back to watch more. Congratulations on the video and on your own world record.
@Moe_Posting_Chad 10 ай бұрын
This genuinely is one of the best speed running history videos. I think this is now the fourth time I've come back to watch again. You really did something heartfelt here.
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