Host Marcia Alvar speaks with Samuel Proctor, author of "The Substance of Things Hoped For," Pastor Emeritus at Harlem's Abyssinian Baptist Church, and Professor Emeritus, Rutgers University. Proctor chronicles his own life against the whole of Black progress and discusses how it is possible to overcome ongoing prejudice and deceptive racial stereotypes. Proctor, the grandson of slaves, grew up to become president of two colleges, serve in the administrations of Presidents Kennedy and Johnson, and act as teacher and advisor to such leaders as Martin Luther King, Jr. and Jesse Jackson.