One of my ancestors on my father's side was in her cabin in East Texas in 1863 with her two children. Her husband had gone to look at a horse he was interested in buying and had taken their only firearm. A band of Comanches attacked the cabin, trying to get inside. She killed two and severely wounded one with an axe and was challenging the others to come get some too when they decided to retreat. They came back later, but she had already taken the kids and fled to the nearest neighbor's place. If not for her courage, I would not be here.

I do not see how Jeff Turner's final years can be characterized or dismissed as a noxious cycle of violence and anger. I fail to see how his life would have been more redeeming had he buried his murdered wife & three sons & then moved on to remarry & start a new family. In my way of thinking as a man Jeff Turner had a debt of honor to avenge the blood of his wife & three sons. His duty was non-negotiable. Had he turned the other cheek, so to speak, he would have been a lesser man. I'm a retired soldier. My heritage is Scottish Highlands. My father's ancestors crossed the pond in 1619. Books written in the 1800s on my kin joke that no male family member ever died of natural causes. I'm proud of that. Men are expendable when it comes to leading, protecting & providing for our kin. It sickens me as a Texan to see how effeminate & harmless most American males have become. A harmless man is not a good man. A good man is a very dangerous man who keeps it under control until it's time to get out of control. God bless Jeff Turner. My family arrived in Texas in 1829 & we married into a Turner family. No idea if it was the same branch of Turners. But the Turner family we married into was of feudal stock so it's possible. Turning the other cheek doesn't apply outside the family tree. Revenge is not only righteous, it is a moral duty to set the record straight & even the score.

Living in Central Texas west of San Antonio, this history happened in my back yard. these stories seem so real and vivid, because of the narration and writing. this channel is truly a gift. thank you.

This deserves a movie

I was enthralled by this particular story. That of the legendary Jeff Turner. Truly a man who after the killing of his entire family. Spent his remaining life on the war path of the Commanche. The way you told his tale. It kept me spellbound and I truly found Jeff Turners story fascinating. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨

It’s amazing that so many families would make the arduous and dangerous journey to Texas knowing what might happen. Guts!!

One of the best western channels on KZfaq, hands down.

This is one of my all time favorite podcasts! I absolutely love the history that you share with your audience. However, I find it hard to believe that you don’t have a million followers on your fantastic channel. This includes the history, presentation, research, and analysis of these remarkable stories. Thanks a million, brother!

GREETINGS FROM MICHIGAN TO EVERYONE HERE ! I LOVE LOVE THIS HISTORY .

I loved the long format and detail of the story, I hope you do more in depth biographies!

All these stories about the fierce Comanche tribes make the argument weak in the face of the Mexican decendants who want to reclaim a land they couldn't colonize in the 1st place. That's why they gave it to the original Texans. Amazing bravery for those who chose to homestead in the truly wild west frontier. 😔

Found this channel just yesterday and can't stop listening! Great work!

I love the format and the content, keep up the great work!

Don't think I'll be able to make it through this for the next few days, but here's a like and a comment for the algorithm. I wouldn't mind seeing more content like this in the future. Make three episodes or so on the same character, the same conflict or series of events, and then bundle them together into a supercut at the end. I like it.

Cant wait brother. Much appreciated from northern California.

Amazing man: I can’t stop listening . Honestly it makes me proud to know these are our ancestors. “If we look back in our history and our doctrine and understand we are not descended from fearful men”

Thank You ! That was worth all my listening time. Yo read it out wonderfully. ! I WILL BE TUNING IN your channel everytime i can .

Hallo from South-Africa! Superb story! Thank you.

Brilliant story! Very sad fate on the wild frontier of Texas 😢

I was at the edge of my seat the whole time so glad i found your channel !

Your channel was thankfully recommended to me by the Algo and I have to honestly say this is the one of the best narrated and researched channels for this niche of American History and historically driven narratives. Thank you so much for all this hard, creative, truth telling, historically anchored work. Bravo. Gripping from start to finish.

Great stuff as always 👍

Great history and story thank you so much for taking the time

Your one helluva story teller. Thanks!

Dusk and Dawn Best time to get it done. Hell of pitchman this Storytelling man of Genius. Love the Show and always Carry a large caliber revolver for safety.

One of your best stories forsure

Looking forward to it. I'll be there. Thank you 💛

Excellent tale thankyou for sharing it.

Fabulous effort.

This guy was the real life Punisher

Very well written, and delivered with the respect and restraint deserved.

Can't wait for the whole crazy saga. He's quickly become a favorite of mine.

Thank you for your videos.

Cool as dirt! I love this stuff. Dig your prose amigo.

I’ve somehow listened to 2 of your hour plus videos today and your channel is great

The murder of the Turner family on Chicolete Creek occured just a few miles NW of Navidad, Tx where my 3x great grandfather (Major James Kerr) land grant is located. His grave and historical marker are on FM 822 several miles north of Edna, Tx.

Great story, brilliantly told.

This should prove to be an interesting story thank you I will be there

Still best best showing of history! Your Turner guy of the pictures is too handsome. Thank y'all in Texas from Northern Germany Ludwig.

Cheers for this, i enjoyed this story

Im not saying this is the best channel on KZfaq, but I can say there is no channel better.

This is Great !

That was awesome. Thank you very much

Great story. Thank you very much.

I love this channel and his voice

Nicely done

Awesome thanks

People from all cultures are just flat out dangerous, violent, and cruel. The fact that any specific group tries to play the victim card is absolutely ridiculous. Survival on the planet earth is brutal period.

Great story telling.l used to read true west as a kid.Your research is awesome.Enjoy your narration and non annoying voice.great damn work you do i must say

Your the best!!!!!

Jeff Turner sounds like he could be the inspiration for the character of Wild Man in the Galaxys's Edge series. He first appears in the book titled "The 100".

Excellent story

I had a grandmother scalp at ruddles station ky at the for of the licking river in 1780 ,crazy times.talk about PTSD

Bonjour!superb ~ 😲

In all my study of the Indian wars I've never heard of a reliable report of the Comanche engaging in Cannibalism. So in my opinion the second story is probably the true one. It's far more likely that Turner was bitten by a rattlesnake than eaten and dismembered by Comanches. Not only is it highly unlikely that a Man like that was taken unawares and captured but considering that one of the reasons the Comanches nearly annihilated the Tonkawa tribe was because they engaged in ritual cannibals themselves. I find it hard to believe the Comanche would than do an act they found morally repugnant. Torture yes cannibalism no.

What is the name of the creek that Turner made camp at? I would like to visit it someday. I think I misspelled it and can not find it.

The grass isn't always greener.....

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So, they whipped out the weaker tribe and we whipped out them, the lesser/weaker civilization and “civilization” is being generous.

You have to do Lewis Wetzel!!

Sounds like Mr. Turner took many more lives from his enemies than they took from him.

Seems their horses had a particular build. Not too tall, narrow chest.. which isn't great for distance running but for sprints and ability to wrap ones legs around them and attack hanging off the side or the neck.

Just wanted to say that I listen in from Ireland every evening, and find the subject matter,

New go this part of fascinating history (born and bred New Zealander),genuine question, what happened to Jeffs farm and home?to my imagination he gifted it to the neighbors who nursed him back and also is it to this day presurved or lo ation even knowen?thankyou.

Good story and thankful for the long form. After years of studying our collective history, I'm amazed we exist. Should the Aboriginal Americans be a glimpse of early man's interactions with others and the elements I'm fascinated we've made it this far.

The definition of the Lawless West'... tough place to stay alive!

I would to see the movie gunfight at the ok corral staring burt Lancaster and Kurt Douglas

I was born in brownwood, hey this channel is so awesome, hell yeah, Jeff Turner is a bad mf, it’s so awesome that I spent most of my life in his roaming grounds, that’s a mean badass man, glad I got to hear his story, thank you bud’ 💪💀🫡👊🤕😵☠️🇺🇸🖕😁

telling the story once must be enough

Is it possible for a person to develop a Jeff Turner level of abject loathing for others who have lied, cheated, poisoned, sickened and stolen wealth and power?

Much later a ranger named Captain John Hughes had six of his horses stolen but in this case by rustlers they had also stolen horses from many other ranches and he told the local ranchers if they would take care of his ranch he would trail them himself. He maddeningly to all the reporters gave no account of the fight but six against one and he attacked them. He gives no account of the fight he doesn't romanticize it all he said was briefly matter of fact he took the two surviving robbers and drop them off to the local sheriff. Although it has nothing to do with the story we're listening to now which is quite interesting it just has to do with showing how tough the rangers are six against one is insurmountable odds to almost everyone.

36:26 My mate 'Luddy', (a guardsman) told me that whenever you have just taken a position from the Enemy, you firstly give the 'Three B's' to every 'body' that is there. (You'll have to look up what that means because this is YT 😉) But it's British Army SOP, and means you don't get surprised.😊

Got to love all the extra details added by people who were never there 😂

What historical event

Have they ever found his lodge?

Jeff Turner wow. Bad ass.

A movie waiting to be made.

We no longer live in a time when a person can legally devote their entire existence to revenge for a lost family. Now We have to depend on the courts or the government for justice (if it ever happens). When I was 14 my best friend and his entire family was murdered by a psychopath. Had I stayed 2 more hours at their house that Christmas Eve 1984 I would not exist.

Now I know where the Cohen Bros. got their idea of rattlesnakes in a cave from. The stuff of nightmares!

Reminds me of Jeremiah Johnson.

Helped me reconize chart patterns easier.

Make a Epic movie, Eastwood should of made a movie about him or Redford. TURNER was a brave heroic figure, a legendary figure,

So at the beginning of his interview collinson says he never met Bigfoot Wallace, later collinson says that Bigfoot told him what happened to Jeff Turner?

This is one of the reasons why the Founding Fathers enshrined the 2nd Amendment. 🇺🇸 It’s also a good argument AGAINST banning AR15s and “high-capacity” magazines. *_”A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."_* *_-Amendment II, Constitution of the United States of America_* ✝️🇺🇸

Interesting but include more tribes

An I in Texan takes some getting used to, but that's how language goes, I guess.

If they ever make a movie about Jeff Turner, I think Jon Bernthal would be a great pick

He was a true devil slayer!!!!

If you need anything or have any question I'd be happy to help if I can when you get here

Indubitably

Verly intelesting.

I that these scouts an Indian fighters did not stare into the campfire, cause it would blind then if they were laid upon while looking into the flames

J. Fank Dobie not Frank J Dobie.

This what neighbors used to be like

It was a horseland in and most people believed that thief whether he was Indian or a white man that there was no cure this side of the grave. That is why it was sometimes a hanging offense to steal horses and cattle. You can kind of understand Jeff Turner's hatred for the Indians all he saw was his beloved family slaughtered by a group of what he termed to be savages. And whether the murders or white or Indian when you attack a town or a village and kill women and children that is unforgivable whether you are marauding Indians or white bandits.

It would be quite an embarrassment I would say because at the time any man woman or child would feel comfortable laying down with rangers all around them. Comanche experience or not most of them were not even 21 yet yet already fighting men.

Sounds like this is the story behind Jeremiah Johnson

You say that like there's something wrong with hating anyone who is not you?

It is crazy to me that everything in the old west was violent and bloody except for one historic place in America, Acadia. You see before the British deported them do you know how many wars the Acadians participated in that was not against the British zero. They farmed and traded with the Mi'kmaq and married with them, sold them food specifically the vegetables that they did not farm, muskets, gun powder, lead balls, iron, metal sewing needles, metal fish hooks and much more. On the other hand we got snow shows, the toboggan and maple syrup from them and also traded furs for all the goods I just mentioned. Rich people in Acadie, who were rural farmers from poor backgrounds, before 1755 were richer than the colony of Quebec and even France itself. Ultimately this is why they were deported. Acadia is another word for "Utopia"

Texas didn't stop at Oklahoma. It went right into today's Colorado.