Have you been able to compare the p30sk with p365xl or such at all?

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I was surprised to see that Grayguns has one for the LEM trigger. Out of stock, but I'm on the wait-list. Thanks for the info.

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@roy yates, thanks again for watching and commenting.

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I agree that a hammer is more reassuring than a striker-fired gun, considering that many (most) striker guns are 100% cocked - without a safety.

I'm a 1911 guy, so I really appreciate a manual safety. However, I wouldn't hesitate to carry the P30SK with the LEM trigger, as the trigger is more like a quality revolver.

I hear you. As long as the VP9 works for you, there's probably no need to add the P30 to the inventory.

Own several versions of each. Love them all.

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Both are great.

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Good info. Thanks.

Have you compared these to any of the other more modern striker fire pistols? Like p365 or shield? Im trying to decide atm

@@DavidMilesMusic I’ve had the 365 and also the shield plus. Didn’t keep either of them. I get bored quickly and trade them off

@The11, it sounds like you've been around the block with a variety of pistols. Thanks for watching and adding your experience.

I haven't had that issue with the trigger, but I just haven't been able to really get good with that LEM trigger, as much as I like the concept. But if I gave up my Staccato......

As always, thank you for watching.

Everything about a defensive firearm is a compromise. You just have to keep shopping until you find the gun that is perfect for you. Thanks for watching.

Did you decide in the end? I also am choosing

@@DavidMilesMusic Ended up choosing the P365XL. Great gun!

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I've looked at the P30 options, but my gun money is pretty tight right now. Thanks for watching.

Even shooting them side-by-side, I didn't notice any difference.

Thanks for watching and commenting. And thank you for your service to your community. Point of clarification: Glock was careful to not market their pistols as "double action", instead, they used the term "safe action". The striker is approximately 85% cocked with a 5 pound +/- trigger pull and there is no second strike capability, thus not actually double action.

@@RidersRange yes sir you are correct!! Glock explained it to us going through the armorers course ,they stated the 85% precock wasn’t enough to reliably detonate the primer. I don’t know and wouldn’t want to test the theory. Thanks for your awesome reviews and service sir.

How is glock any safer than any other striker fire pistol.

@@DavidMilesMusicFor one thing there is a Striker Control Device made by Langdon Tactical for Glocks. It allows someone to thumb the “hammer” in this case the back of the Glock slide and lock the striker while holstering.

@Steve Stone, thanks for watching and commenting. HK, Canik, Kimber (R7 Mako and EVO, but not the Solo) and many other striker-fired pistols are about 100% cocked. Glocks are somewhere around 85% cocked. Kahr pistols (and I believe the Kimber Solo) aren't cocked, hence the longer double-action-style trigger pull. I carried a Glock of one model or another for 28 years without incident and even carried a G27 inside the waistband and in an ankle holster on occasion and never felt uncomfortable, but I was extremely careful when holstering and only carried in a quality holster. Millions of folks carry all manner of striker-fired pistols safely, but after carrying a 1911 with thumb safety and grip safety for the past 10 years, I'll have to admit I wouldn't carry any striker-fired pistol in the appendix position.

@@RidersRange Thanks Rider. I value your opinion. Keep up the good work.

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Good choice.

Modern revolvers also have a hammer/firing pin block that keeps the firing pin away from the primer unless the trigger is pulled, but I doubt anyone would carry a cocked revolver, even though they are fine carrying a fully cocked semi-auto with a light trigger. Yes, I know there are literally millions of folks who safely carry fully cocked striker-fired pistols every day without incident. Partially cocked pistols, such as the Glock (no, I'm not a Glock fanboy) are a little more safe than fully cocked pistols, such as the VP9 series. Thanks for watching.

What about da/są version?

Good explanation. Thanks for watching and adding the info.

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Get the optics ready model that way you don't have to buy the full size vp9. I wish the vp9 sk optics ready was available when I bought the full size

@@jimmysmith3255I just picked up the vp9 sk optics ready, it’s pretty sweet the stock sights are really awesome IMO also

@Romans 6two3, if you are looking for a hammer-fired pistol about the size of the Hellcat, take a look at the S&W CSX. I liked it enough when I did my tabletop review that I ended up buying it.

If you are use to the P365XL, you will probably like the P320 - maybe even more than HK pistols.

USA sigs are trash. Had a brand new p229R in 357 sig. Extractor broke in less than 500 rounds. That’s what happens when you compromise parts. Unlike H&K No compromise.

I am trying to decide between a p30sk and a p365xl, whats your opinion if you could only have one?

@@DavidMilesMusic Sig has a history of defects. HK by comparison is more reliable.

I do not have the P30L - yet. And I'm still working with the LEM trigger, but not enough to really get use to it. (Too many different guns to test.)

I carry the Staccato C DUO with a Swampfox Sentinel red dot.

Great trigger, but it is 100% cocked. And true about holsters.

But without the inertia of the hammer striking the firing pin, there is less change of an inadvertent discharge.

Peter, thanks for watching and commenting. You are correct about the striker block, which is present in virtually all striker-fired pistols, but you are not correct about the striker not being cocked. The VP9 series has a very visible striker and when the slide is racked you will clearly see the red end of the striker in the fully cocked position under full spring tension. As you press the trigger, you will notice that the striker doesn't move rearward any more than it is before pulling the trigger. So, sorry to burst your bubble, but it is 100% cocked, with no user-operable manual safety. The KZfaq channel "Si vis pacem , para bellum" has a great cut-away action of the VP9 and starting at 0:25 in the video and again at 2:35, you can clearly see that the striker is fully cocked under spring tension until it is released by the trigger mechanism.

@@RidersRange You are right about the VP9. I stand corrected. My statement was based on the Glock design, which I’m most familiar with and who’s striker is cocked by the action of pulling the trigger to the rear. I wrongly assumed that all striker pistols functioned the same. Thanks for educating me. Keep pumping out the videos 👍

@@petergozinya6122 Peter. Sorry to have to intrude here and yet again correct you on the Glock design as well. If you look at Glock cutaways you can clearly see the striker is retracted 99.9 % of the way. The striker gets pulled back only 1 or maybe 2 millimeters as you pull the trigger. The Glock striker is fully ready to be slingshot forward at all times when the slide is in the racked position. The striker pin block does have to be moved out of the way simultaneously as the striker is being released in the back all at the same time. But the Glock most definitely does not do any substantial "cocking" of the striker during trigger pull. It's only a tiny hair movement back as the fully cocked striker is simply being released. I handled one of this cutaway Glock 23s in a store when I was getting familiar with their safety mechanisms for carry. The armorer who changed my sights was very gracious with his time in his explanations and hands-on demonstration of the Glock trigger action mechanism. It's all I carry now and love them. Just thought I'd point you to look at the mechanism a little closer in action.

I don't own the P2000SK, so I can't talk about how it shoots. As to size, the P2000SK is almost identical to the P30SK and VP9SK. There is a website called handgunhero.com that gives you a side-by-side look at whatever guns you want to compare, as well as all size statistics.

@@RidersRange Which one of yours has less recoil the hammer fired or striker? Thanks for info.

I like hammer-fired pistols and I like the LEM trigger on the P30, but I'd have to spend a LOT of time with it to be as proficient with it as I am with too many other guns.

@@RidersRange I was deadly accurate with my 1911 pistols, but sold all of them except one. Same with Glocks. Deadly at 25 yards, but only have one left (Yvonne still has hers). Edited to Add: 🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼

I don't know why I struggled with that word in this video. Maybe too much coffee that morning. As always, thanks for watching.

@@RidersRange I think it's just a hard word for most of us lol.

That's from my calibrated Wheeler trigger gauge. I'm fine with a 3.5 pound trigger on a 1911, but I agree that it's a little light for a gun that doesn't have a manual safety.

The LEM is a great idea, but as you found out, it does take some time exclusively on that platform. Thanks for watching.

The VP9SK has a great trigger, but the gun is 100% cocked. The LEM trigger, thought not as "nice", at least is safer than carrying a fully cocked gun that doesn't have a safety. Thanks for watching.

@Rider's-Range I have no safety concerns with carrying +1 in all my striker handguns. Quality holster that guards the trigger, training, and trigger discipline.

Polaroid XS100i.

I have been thinking about a trigger upgrade for the P30, but remember, this one has the HK LEM trigger, not the usual P30 trigger. Thanks for watching and commenting.

I have the P30sk with Lem, and a gray guns short reset kit. It makes a world of difference. You won't regret it.

Thanks for watching and adding that info.

It's still a tough decision. The LEM trigger on the P30SK takes some getting used to, but considering the VP9SK is 100% cocked (with no safety), it makes for a great trigger. Thanks for watching.

After carrying and shooting each gun for a while, I prefer the P30 with the LEM trigger over the VP9SK. Thanks for watching.

How about the v3 without the lem trigger?

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Here's a quote from the HKPro Forum: "There is no LEM kit for the P30 nor is it an approved conversion. This means that you have to source the parts separately AND it will void your pistol's warranty."

I paid just under $700 for mine.

@@RidersRange that's an awesome deal. I just picked up the vp9sk optic ready based on this review. a little over $800. very happy with it.

@@RidersRange I found a p30sk for under 700 but the vp9sk I couldn’t find it under 800

I got my p2000sk lem in .40 for less than 500 shipped with C5L viridian and custom holster

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To each their own. Thanks for watching.

So get the p30. Do we still have you?

At first glance, yes, and they do take the same magazines. But there are many differences in dimensions and don't necessarily fit the same holsters. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Thanks for watching and commenting. The difference between barrel/guid rod is 0.06", hardly enough to make a meaningful difference. Also, the base of the pic-rail on the P30 is thicker than the same area on the VP9SK.

@SG-hh9lu, I'm sure that you believe you are 100% correct and there has never been an untended second shot with a DA/SA gun and that the cases I am familiar with are all just figments of my imagination. But there is actually a world outside New York. Anyway, thanks for watching.

@@RidersRange , no not 100% correct but close to it, the cases your talking about probably happened with an inexperienced shooter, just like 99% of the so called experts on KZfaq never even pulled a gun in self defense let alone shot someone

Hmmm.....looks are subjective. But the VP9 trigger is one of the better striker-fired triggers on the market. Thanks for watching and commenting.

All good points. Millions of folks carry striker-fired pistols without any issues and I carried a Glock on duty for 24 years (and off duty for the final 10 years on the job). But there are enough documented incidents to make me reconsider. Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts.

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@John Christopher, you raise good points. I sincerely appreciate the constructive feedback. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@@RidersRange I have no opinion regarding the original comment but I actually really appreciate that you responded to this post like this. Don’t see that too often these days.

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