Yo wait a gatdamn minute so the bad ending is cannon and yazora is planning to make sora a lecee so then when he can whoop m.o.m ass he can’t die 🤯

Could've kept it separate from Kingdom Hearts tho.

This has to be said .. let it be born here! The lightning mom theory ! .. Kh4 is lightning beating everyone for.not stopping sora!

Time to wait 8 years for the Verum Rex and 4 years for KH4 !

kh4 without Disney worlds would be a serious tone and fitting of Versus XIII

Naw it's Nomura that's special and we wish he was able to do his thing

I had a dream it was released as a separate title and contained the original scope and features. I had just picked up my physical copy and was on the drive home and then I awoke feeling empty and angry at my alarm clock.

well, there are still people talking about how the Half-Life 2 Beta was better than the released version so it's pretty impressive how people still talk about canceled games in general which is still crazy.

@@ShaDowMo5es paaaaaaaaain ...

I still have posters and wallscrolls that are VS13 . I don't think I'll ever be able to get rid of them. I was so excited for this game, it's alittle reminder of what could have been

More like 70% spite, 10% creative mind, 10% belts, 5% zippers, and 5% flannel.

Sorry friend we are getting KH4 and a mobile game instead 😪

Nomura said kh4 was originally called verum rex so it's the same thing 😂

@@jaydog1780 your right 🫠 I might not even be alive by the time Verum Rex comes out ☠️

@@MrInuhanyou123 Literally, has nothing to do with Versus. Versus was going to be a very sad and very mature tale, with plenty of things you absolutely cannot include in a Kingdom Hearts game.

@Ano SoraNomura said verum rex is said to still be a possibility so there's that. Honestly I hope it comes out.

They already look vastly different

Well, what about Kingdom Hearts - Versus. Or Kingdom Hearts - "Revengence"? :p

@@TheOriginal_Unaleska How about Kingdom Hearts: Brotherhood? (It’s technically Square Enix!)

I will lol

Same. That and Silent Hills.

Me too. I can't say I thought 15 was bad, but it just didn't do anything for me. I didn't even feel mad at it, though I kind of wish I did as that would actually be something.

Me too! To this day I'm still mourning the lost of STELLAAAAA

Me too my guy, me too. More than anything, I STILL want that FF13 Verses game to be released, even if that means its Final Fantasy 17, just give it to us!

@@TheOriginal_Unaleska They seriously need to go back and remake all the Fabula Nova games with FULL development cycles.

There's always the chance that it could be made into its own IP as Verum Rex. I have a feeling that KH4 could act as a step in garnering interest in the project, and maybe that was one reason it was decided to be developed first. That way, a case could potentially be made to Square to revive Versus as a standalone title if there's already a proven interest from consumers. Maybe they could even go so far as to alter the title to Versus Rex to be more blatant that this is what became of the concept in the end. Anyway, a title separate in name to KH might allow the possibility for the darker tone that Versus had promised. Regardless, KH can be pretty dark in its own right, so a Verum Rex game as a KH game still can be tonally different given the circumstances. I for one continue to hold out hope for the project in regards to Versus and its original concept living up to expectations despite how it might've changed. Honestly, even if it isn't the same as Versus exactly, that doesn't mean it will be a title that won't live up to that hope.

@@13thdarkness I agree with this sentiment. I pray that KH4 is the stepping stone.

This. Versus XII was totally a product of its time. You could just feel it from the first trailers. It had almost a FF8 air about it, very early 2000s. As we can see from Verum Rex, if it were revived now it won't be the same at all. Especially since XV is very much a thing. As far as Versus XV goes, it's dead in the water for me... all I can do is just wait for more KH

I feel you bruh, I was 12 when the first versus trailer came out. I'm 28 now and I'm still waiting on the masterpiece that was meant to be Final Fantasy Versus XIII 😭😭😭😭😭

@@ygo900 Hopefully we get some peace in 2 days bro!! What a journey its been

@@ygo900 same

DID YALL SEE THE INTRO TO THE KH4 TRAILER?? VERSUS TEXT!!

@@advent_ds yeah just saw it

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And that the reason why some of us leave

Shhhh Just dont tell Disney

This and Silent Hills are such a blow to not have.

I will be very happy if Nomura make versus 13. It's like my childhood dream to play that game.

EXCELLENT ASSESSMENT. Took everything I thought and articulated it. You are appreciated my friend 🗝.

I think you’re looking at this the wrong way with the Disney stuff, but I agree with everything else. Expect Disney worlds to keep playing a part.

@@Kaweebo I actually disagree with you. The Disney worlds, especially in 3, were usually confined to the original storylines with some stretches here and there (Mulan's world in 2 is probably my favorite example). KH4 is the opportunity for the series to do its own thing without relying on Disney storylines. I think it'll be better if the Disney characters are fleshed out and brought into a new light this time rather than telling their original stories again.

I just hope I live long enough to see the series conclude my guy! Tomorrow is never promised and these games take forever to come out! People grow up and don’t have time for games and stuff anymore!

I’m just blessed as a fan. Sora is in Super Smash Bros Ultimate where he belongs and now we have Kingdom Hearts 4 on the way which seems to be very different but hopeful and promising.

Why would Square say no in the first place? As long as it sells, it's convenient for everyone.

@RoxasTheBest89 they said no to versus 13 being a thing for being too dark and not meeting china's censorship standards then changed it to ffxv kinda the problem with square they only want what sells and the money

Disney probably wants to make yazora an obese black woman

No matter how much Nomura tried to say that Verum Rex isn't FFV13, we all know... It's FFV13. Lol

Hopefully you live long enough to see it!

You're not in the minority. FFXV is a fantastic game

I loved 15 so much that I don't want VR taking versus from it either. If we get versus, I still want Noctis to have what was his thing. I like both.

If anything, we who don't like XV are in the minority

@@jase276 That kinda makes me happy to hear. I guess I've just seen so many people rip on it that my point was a bit bias. Everyone's got their likes though and people are allowed to not like it and be disappointed over it what it was supposed to/could have been.

The event is a day before tomorrow?

Source?

Where’s your cited source?

@@stevenargueta392 PST it’s 9pm tomorrow night

@@williamjackson8782 thanks

I go back to it from time to time still, what a missed opportinuty.

Big facts

This is an idea. Apparently (I saw in another comment) that the characters Ham and Rex mistook Sora as Yozora. Maybe there is more credence to that theory you have there, my friend. "I've been having these weird thoughts lately. Like is any of this real or not?"

Oof...typo's. Yike's. I meant to say keyblade's, but somehow auto-correct got in the way...quite the image nation of Sora using PC keyboard's as weapons...ouchie.

Yesssssss

Glad it was helpful!

Agreed and I kinda laugh when fans say this is "payback" when ??? How is it payback? 🤔 Nomura was very much overworked if memory is correct so while I'm sure his original idea for versus 13/15 would have been awesome to see, he stepped down to focus on his main series (kingdom hearts). Since 15 holds some elements to the original story (not all but maybe a base of the story with noctis going on a trip with his buddies) the original story that was meant to be for the 13 fabula story is well, no longer there because square wanted to pretend 13 doesn't exist (funnily same was as 15 which am salty about because at least 13 was finished) but also the long development it took, Nomura as he states is a story NO ONE fully knows. Yes we fans know what we see released but the entire story details is one we will never know, so probably best bet is he took maybe some concept ideas from that time and reworked it to be more fitting by upgrading the story and fitting it into kingdom hearts more. Thus I don't fully agree we are "seeing what versus 13/15 should have been" because no, Nomura states yozora's story won't be what people claim to be his original vision. Did he throw Easter eggs? Of course, why wouldn't he but he isn't doing this to be petty about how 15 turned out in the end (which imo fans need to chill about the game. It came out which is a success considering the long and very long time it was in development plus, it is a good game with flaws of course!) Just a creator simply reworking old ideas is all so I don't fully agree with fans on that idea but I do believe it's him doing an improved storyline of the versus idea he had but again, WE FANS WILL NEVER KNOW THE TRUE STORY! We cannot argue against that so who knows what was the full story of noctis. Anywhoo, a good and cool video because I do find it interesting if we could have a ff13 reference pop up which would be cool! With the new trailer for kh4 there Is so much I think they could do with this so I'm excited ^_^

Apparently the nameless star has already appeared in KH, according to Nomura

When you actually look at both outfits you start you start to see a ton of differences

And that wish may still become realised

Well prepare to wait like 5 years for KH4 and than another 5 years for Verum Rex if it even ends up becoming a game! Here’s to hoping we live long enough to see it!

Versus XIII came across like "an edgier Kingdom Hearts" and a nonzero amount of fans wanted exactly that, so KH4 taking the series for the darker turn is welcome by us.

@@ultimamage3 I'd say Versus being cancelled and then used as the fuel for KH4 is happy accident and propably better choice. KH being based around cancelled game sounds pretty meta-level nonsense which can be more entertaining than any of those games alone. Overall it would be fun if series became sort of metaphor for all contract/trademark/company fuck-ups or outright broke 4th wall. That would more likely make it Nomura's magnum opus than another regular JRPG.

From the rumors and supposed leaks of people who worked on it, Versus XII was going to be way darker than KH could ever be allowed to go. It was inspired by Shakespeare with there being betrayal kills and GoT esque politics with warring nations and eventually Stella either being killed by Noctis or poisoning herself like Romeo & Juliet. I don't see KH doing any of that, Disney wouldn't have it and Square probably wouldn't in a mainline franchise. Which is why Versus XIII was so perfect, it was originally a spinoff meaning Nomura could do whatever he wanted like how Typo 0 did

Let him cook🔥