Or they REALLY want to.

People who do this without explicitly saying they're poly they just want an open relationship, agree they are either already cheating on you, or they want to date again but they are too lazy to do the emotional work of a break up. So do it for them, like exile says.

Fully agree. I had a similar situation many many years ago where my then fiancé went away on holiday to Ibiza for a month with her sister…… when she came back, she had a bad attitude, list of demands and was not wearing her engagement ring. She was biffed out of the house within 24 hours and I’ve never looked back since and never regretted it. I even told her I was a very proud man and I won’t take that rubbish…. My last memory of her was watching her walking out of the door and walking really slowly down the road with her shoulders slumped. She was a twat and deserved it - and northern is right - you never really know someone u til this shot happens. It was hard at first, but you will get over it.,….quicker than you think. I’ve been married with kids since and I’ve never looked back. So to the guy who has been treated like crap by that utter mindshitter…… get rid and move on, you will not regret it. What a fucking horrible bitch.

Yeah an open relationship ship has to be something you want as well. You also have to be a pretty good looking guy because if you're not slinging any and your wife is then that's an oopsie

Know your fucking worth, Kings.

Agreed

Probably one of the worst takes he's had. He's is characterizing anti easy difficult players as sweaty tryhards who want others to suffer. People like this think every game should be a cake walk.

I like difficult games, I just prefer them like Ghost (actually responsive, punishing fair mistakes) I honestly don't see where having a difficulty slider ruins the game for you. I'd say have a slider that turns UP as well, so the core Elden Ring game is just as it is now. Lowering the difficulty switches off ALL achievements and trophies but lets you experience the game, hard mode unlocks extra trophies you don't even get on normal. I am honestly not seeing a down side aside from 'but but but, its MY game, you need to play it like I do.' Dunno, just not seeing it man.

@@northernexile Most Souls players would probably argue the lore is secondary to the gameplay and it is the gameplay that is what needs to be protected above all else. Their issue over the difficulty slider desire is less about accessibility v elitism and more about how it would change the entire design process of the game. I'm somewhat sympathetic to that.

@@northernexile and to further elaborate, the "story" of Souls games according to From is directly linked to that gameplay and atmosphere. The world is a decaying mess and you are supposed to feel weak. The lore and dialogue isn't really the "story" like it is in most games.

it's literally part of the story. Next they're gonna complain the plot is too obscure and that they want to be spoon fed the plot

i feel like i know what happened in skyrim's main story only thanks to youtube essays on it, despite having played through it multiple times

yeah, northern had his first bad take

Yeah I won’t lie, North has had some iffy takes, all of which I totally get. This take on soulsborne games just baffles me? It’s not elitism if people are defending a feature that the developers intended?

@@JelloDonatello it's also misinformed and just basically the reason why gatekeeping exists. The game does offer ways to make the boss fights and experience easier it just requires some research and discussion. I was able to beat my first boss in Elden ring through using summons and an item specifically for said boss. I was under leveled too. People forget that part of the souls game is assisting each other and having community help. People are so used to power fantasy games that just let you blow through obstacles.

you can also cheese every boss and one hit them. In DS one there is a boss that just drop dead when you walk over to a fog wall. The argument comes from people who don't play soulsborn games

@@embearasedbear3694 100% agree with you there. If you cater to a phantom audience you are sure to alienate the actual paying fans. The worst move any developer can make is to remove what makes the game work to appease people that just want to whine.

@@TheAlbonnn Killed the Fire Giant for the first time yesterday with a buddy. Solo was way too hard for me. It was a fun fight, I appreciated it, but I still look forward to slaying him solo with no summons and all that, and I really enjoy that the game has that to offer. I think if Soulsborn games didn't play the way the did and are as difficult as they can be I wouldn't have that experience. In a world where dragons and monsters don't exist it's really cool we have some games that when you're fighting them feel as frighting and intimateing as they might be irl. Like in God of War you fight God's and they feel trivial. In soulsborn games fighting just knights can feel heroic.

he litteraly makes this argument about Warhammer, but Fromsoft fans are the ones that are bad for wanting their hobby to stay their hobby.

Yeah the people you hang around with influence you greatly. My ex's new coworkers changed her so much.

You mention that the game tells a story through the environment. I don't see why it can't do both, be challenging mechanically and immersive with its story. Might be one of the reasons why it's such a popular game, it takes both worlds of story and mechanical challenge and marries them together.

Not true. I also said I thought Angron would be out this summer.

@@northernexile Yes but bringing that up would ruin the joke.

I litteraly have to stop myself all the time from making the game easier. I honestly wish they didn't give so many options to the players to cheese bosses n stuff. I love the game, but I have difficulty not taking advantage of cheese. like on the fire giant you can just jump behind the fog wall and shoot him from where he can't hit you

You are comparing oranges with a 6oz steak, and you know you are. This point makes little to no sense. Completely different game, genre and even game format.

@@northernexile I am not at all. it's literally the question if the difficulty of a game fundamentally changes behavior and experience of players.

@@viorp5267 In terms of Blackcoats? I don't think so, no. Because you guys have not ever really come close to dying aside from Matt doing some silly shit at Christmas - and even then all that happened was he got a cool new story. So no, I don't think it harms immersion at all. I'd only kill a character in the MOST extreme circumstances if it helps the story, I said that before we started - yet you all enjoyed it and got immersed. I don't really equate difficulty with immersion at all. The opposite in fact when it comes to video games. Concentration is not immersion by the way, you're not immersed in your maths test as an experience when you're taking it you know? Same goes for super difficult games.

@@northernexile I'd say it comes off very different to me. The first few sessions of black coats Sangurn kept charging in recklessly against the enemies and nearly dying. After that happened a few times the way we played changed, I think. it was established that playing this like D&D where you try to rush in and have slug-fest won't work so we started increasingly utilizing more 'elaborate' tactics, which also gave it a more serious tone. I mean session 1 FIlberto was Rick from RIck and Morty. I think if we played with D&D rules the character development of all 3 characters would have gone in a very different direction. Admittedly now we are relatively strong within the world, but the 'taught' more careful way of approaching obstacles mostly stayed. Concentration and immersion are not the same. True, but you can't be immersed in an underdog story if you're not the underdog especially if you are playing it out. You can be immersed in the Witcher even on easy difficulty and playing it on death March adds literally nothing to the game because it's a story where you are canonically a baddass monsterhunter, hunting monsters and looking for your daughter. IN Elden RIng you are some hobo from abroad who can't die because your soul is so filthy that the Erdtree does not want to recycle it. You are effectively a normal man sent to battle the Gods fueled by the flame of ambition and a desire to reforge the world as you see fit. The story of Elden Ring makes no sense if you are not the underdog.

@@viorp5267 I think I more approach difficulty like 'you may lose those you care about' like your orphans. And that's nearly happened at least twice. For me difficulty is things happening to your character that are worse than death, like losing your kids or something like that. A character just dying does little for the story 9 times out of 10 - same with gaming really. It just takes you out of the game and you reload...not that immersive for me.

Wait...I was RIGHT about the no breathing thing?!

@@northernexile yup. A full apnea is full blockage, whereas hypoapnea is a partial. So half the time not breathing aka choking overall. Mind you, obesity does add a bunch to sleep apnea, so years ago it would have been more moderately severe, as opposed to over double the maximum range of being called 'severe' (30-40 per hour)

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That's a fact Jack

you forgot all the cheese and the wall you jump threw for 100k runes ago you don't even need to fight anything for it.

Honestly it's because he's the one who needs to be gatekept out of the souls game. The game is there for everyone to play and he thinks the games are just torture p*rn. Games like elden ring get easier as you tweak your character and look up guides. Plus summons allow for an easier time.

@@noblegalifreyan4551 He said clearly he never played them so he very likely just does not understand the experience and thinks he has it to do with something like the witcher except the enemies have way more hitpoints and the controlls are bad. Not understanding it's a completely different form of gamedesign.

@@viorp5267 yes but he's coming at them with bad faith. The way he talks about them shows he doesn't seem to be willing to learn and looking down on the community. If he's new then don't come in trying to change the hobby. If you want to learn the lore and see the gameplay then watch let's play. There are ways to be a fan without forcing the game to bend to your will.

@@noblegalifreyan4551 Yes. He is being very rude and condescending about a topic he literally knows nothing about by his own admission. And frankly you are right that with the attitude he has now he should be gatekept from the games.

>And if you can't be arsed to spend 2-6h learning the attack patterns of a boss you you sure as hell won't be arsed to read item description, traverse every nook an cranny of the world and memorise item/enemy locations to piece together the lore. FromSOft games are not 'about' the difficulty, but the difficulty is an inherent part of the storytelling. Sorry but this point is pure BS and anyone who is in this hobby knows it. There are plenty of people who play 40k and don't paint their models, but are still into everything else about the game. Likewise there are people who are deep into the lore but barely play or don't even own miniatures. Proposing that you must like one single element to enjoy the rest is just not true. The game could still be difficult and not require 2-6 hours of memorizing attack patterns, as to a lot of people that isn't difficulty, it's busywork. Honestly a lot of the "difficulty" of soulslike games is artificial, it's about bleeding your time until you figure it out, and to a lot of people that simply isn't fun. The number one thing I hear from most souls fans is that once you learn attack patterns the game becomes a cakewalk, and that's a major flag that the difficulty isn't genuine, if it were about skilled execution it would be a challenge every time. You also suggest that there's basically no middle ground between prepare to die and weenie hut jr, the thing with difficulty is that it's different for everyone, there's no reason to assume that for people who find the base game too difficult that they still wouldn't find a challenge from a lower difficulty, the argument isn't to make the game easy, it's to make it actually accessible for people who find the base game impossible. To stop cheesing they could implement an (optional) difficulty adjuster which senses when the game is becoming too hard for you to complete, but then ramps up the difficulty as you get the hang of it so there's always a challenge. >And this argument of not having "hours upon hours to play"... why are you treating the game as a chore? You should be HAPPY you get to enjoy it as long as you can. Nobody sane picks up a TV series gets into it and then wishes it to be over sooner. If you truly enjoy these games you should be happy you get to see more of them. I am no hardcore gamer either I am pretty meh at games, FromSoft games are not about skill they are about perseverance, learning tricks and community. No one enjoys being stuck in a game, the difference between video games and other forms of entertainment is that the entertainment you receive is progress based, if you can't continue then you're not getting entertainment out of it. The fact that even you say the game isn't about skill is not a good thing, most people like being rewarded for their skill, not everyone likes edging, and as previously discussed it seems entertainment actually diminishes with competence at the game, not increases. >You CAN'T experience the lore if the game is easy. Theme =/= lore. You absolutely can experience the lore if it were easy (which no one is even arguing for), you can even experience the lore without even playing the game. At the end of the day there are plenty of games where death is built into the mechanics, or that the difficulty is a part of the core experience, but manage to do it without being as restrictive as fromsoft games are. If the game was mechanically solid and the themes were well written then it should be able to support itself based on the player's dictated difficulty, not the game's. Honestly I don't even really care that much about the issue as I'm unlikely to play ER even if it became less of a time sink, but if you're going to try and defend this ground so passionately, you need to have your arguments be air tight and they all pretty much have major holes in them.

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I find the whole " he literally just says it's not for him" has more than just that and moving on.

The only non From Soft games which I ever saw truly capture the Soulslike spirit were Nioh and Hollow knight. I don't except that all soulslike games are super niche. I have no clue what you're even talking about.

I mean - who is saying take away the Soulslike format? Keep it as it is, just let those who don't want to spend all day at a game when life is already stressful experience it too. I honestly feel that people arguing against this...every argument comes across as crying 'but its MY thing, they need to play with my toys properly or not at all'. Like its actually not affecting you at all if there is a difficulty slider. Its still balls hard, you can even turn it up to make it even worse if you like. Get your points though.

@@northernexile It is affecting my enjoyment of the game, also you don't need to 'spend all day'. My laptop overheats easily so in the later parts of the map with lots of projectiles i could only play 1h at a time and i beat the last 1/4th of the game like that. To implement an easy mode you'd need to fundamentally redesign the game. How do invasion and coop work across difficulties? Does poise-poise damage change between difficulties? You don't see enemy poise health so you usually need to trial and error the amount of hits you can'd do that. Do we now add a visible poise bar? Do stats of weapons change between difficulties? If yes keep in mind the game on purpose does not tell you certain %modifiers. Does that mean the game now is forced to spell everything out? What about enemy behavior? Rats in Elden Ring are weak as hell, but if you attack 10 at once you will die due to stagger near helplessly just lowering the damage output will not help fix that. Do we make the rats less aggressive? Increase player poise? Which poise/poise damage would then be used for PvP? From what difficulty? Which

@@viorp5267 Wait. I never said 'add an easy mode' I said the game should have had one when it came out. Easy mode should have disabled ALL trophies and achievements (like playing modded Skyrim) but you just get to run through the story and open world, exploring without too many road blocks. Normal is normal and is standard when the game drops (you gotta manually change it before you start) and hard is an ultra ridiculous mode with more enemies and a super rare trophy. I honestly don't see how building the next From Soft game like that produces all this rending of garments from people. Like if someone wanted to change the next Dragon Age to be a live service, I'd just not engage with the live service and enjoy the story like I normally do - everyone has to deal. Why are From Soft fans special?