HOCHLAND LONGRIFLES & MAGMA | Chaos Dwarfs vs Empire

HOCHLAND LONGRIFLES & MAGMA | Chaos Dwarfs vs Empire - Total War Warhammer 3

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@Terabirb Ай бұрын

I love the dichotomy in this game where some matchups are medieval french and others are just world war 1

@ricoarmstrong7440 Ай бұрын

Haha yeah. More like Napoleonic Wars but its quite interesting how different styles of warfare exist in one game.

@13g0man Ай бұрын

The barbarian Norsca vs WW1 Chaos Dwarves is even more unusual, the other match ups are within a couple hundred years of each other.

@commanderkei9537 Ай бұрын

@@ricoarmstrong7440dinosaurs vs steam tanks and airships lmao

@minoadlawan4583 Ай бұрын

More like Renaissance era. Guns with dedicated melee troops, artillery, and cavalry.

@Ake-TL Ай бұрын

@@commanderkei953766 million years match up

@shaneomahony4426 Ай бұрын

Holy Cow. That army pick and how the game played out was masterfully done. It just all worked so well together. From the first shot it was all over.

@christianweibrecht6555 Ай бұрын

Chaos dwarves: we shall counter your sniper rifles with lava cannons

@roverrange3674 Ай бұрын

Franco - Prussian war (1870) colorized.

@gregoryhayes7569 Ай бұрын

Total War Warhammer is a good game.

@Tsumetaiyoru Ай бұрын

This game was over at unit selection. Top tier mind games!

@fridericusrex6289 Ай бұрын

Empire was meeming. Chorfs have few good options against you and canons are good against all of them. Canons counter chorf artillery hard and are decent against bull centaurs, fireglaives, chorf elite melee infantry, large monsters and trains... And this is perfect canon map, you can control 2 objectives from safe position.

@bryangoh3080 Ай бұрын

@@fridericusrex6289agreed, it would have gone very different if the Empire went with a master engineer in a steam tank with artillery support. But that could be countered with deathshriekers and more bull centaurs.

@fridericusrex6289 Ай бұрын

@@bryangoh3080 I think chorfs have good options against tanks, landships, griphons etc. as you mentioned, deathshrieks and bull centaurs can get them, fireglaives and blunderbusses as well - Turin killed the enemy lord instantly with them, same would happen to a tank. Empire had very favorable match-up against chorfs even before the new units - I usually (map might change this) do a cheap lord, lot of state troopers (chorfs dont have any solid answer against state troopers), canons to counter their artillery and the rest up to your taste. With master engineer as new lord, this will be even better. I might even bring him on foot.

@Gwaeddwynn Ай бұрын

Everytime you praise the instant opening of the capture points I recall you praising the delayed timing when it got introduced because it was a big boon for slower factions... 😅 But the meta game changed a lot so it's probably for the better. And it's an easy thing to adapt once factions adapt to the new meta

@turinRTS Ай бұрын

When they originally delayed timings, I think dom was completely different in terms of points, etc?

@Gwaeddwynn Ай бұрын

@@turinRTS for sure, I just noticed 😂

@christopherbarnette8350 Ай бұрын

As a massive fan of Chaos Dwarfs, I tend to notice how much more often the Dawi Zharr lose in multiplayer - I thought for sure this was going to be my team being used as punching bags against the shiny new Empire toys. This was surprising, and very satisfying... and maybe a little therapeutic, too!

@milansvancara 15 күн бұрын

bro, spoiler alert :D

@kleixa Ай бұрын

Beautiful play, from the great concaves to the magma targeting, to some very effective searing doom hits.

@grugglethegreat8172 Ай бұрын

damn thats a lot of fire power

@acannon2700 Ай бұрын

Excelnt

@yabarber6902 Ай бұрын

He'll never see the 4th Magma cannon coming

@lich109 Ай бұрын

I really like this, the Magma cannons did exactly what they're supposed to, and it's nice they still have a place. I do think the elimination of the opening timer was needed because it hurt slower ranged play like this which, ironically, is what it was supposed to help.

@justintung7981 Ай бұрын

I watch HBYY, Dahv Plays, Nerd War Room. Every single Chorf game. This is the ONLY game I've seen chorf non-artillery shooting do well. Blunderbusses are usually lucky to get more than two volleys off. Without the extended range of granite guard, bringing regular blunderbusses seem to just be a meme. Infernal Guard fireglaives actually don't have anti-large shooting. They only have +4 anti-large in melee, and for the insane price, they do poorly against all other forms of counter-shooting. Finally a good game here though.

@zaibakk9072 Ай бұрын

Vs CD as empire you go either to win the artillery war (with cannons and engineer) or with a fast army (with lots of cavalry)... otherwise you will be crashed hard like this by CD firepower

@easytanksgaming3238 Ай бұрын

Yeah, that's strange troops spam... looks weird

@rabgix8805 Ай бұрын

The multi Magma Cannon was very cinematic

@Woodrow512 Ай бұрын

Completely unrelated, but I just watched a spoof video of Eminem singing "without me" as if it was bluegrass and I saw a coment from Turin, life sure works in mysterious ways

@Arseguardian Ай бұрын

Nasty cannon fire!

@memedaddy6932 Ай бұрын

Chaos Dwarfs teaching the Empire that they are still the kings of gunpowder

@arcadius2569 Ай бұрын

This was perfectly textbook. 3 lines which the opponent did not threaten enough, constant resupply of chaff to the front line while also threatening any attacks on the flank successfully.

@emultra759 Ай бұрын

How does Searing Doom compare to Hailstorm? Based on the stats, the regular casts should be similar or identical, whereas overcast Searing Doom has a wider area and Hailstorm has a longer duration.

@fernandobarros9267 Ай бұрын

Any change to the gamemode that screws over Tim's playstyle is a good change in my book. Also, how viable are the Nuln ironsides in PvP? From Zerkovich's testing they were pretty much beating every other handgun unit including the CD fireglaives.

@tinkerbell1337 Ай бұрын

In a direct fight they would win, but they will getting kited and shot into pieces.

@lich109 Ай бұрын

Turin doesn't like them because they usually aren't allowed to sit and shoot. You will need to move them from point to point or chase targets.

@olafthemoose9413 Ай бұрын

They are very expensive

@TheAshHeritor Ай бұрын

I haven't felt this much hype for the game in well over a year, and your battles are no small part of that. Keep 'em coming brother!

@wyattwelton8599 Ай бұрын

I really liked the land battle mod where you had a single point in the middle that unlocked. I know it doesn't do with this video but I think about that every now and again cause that really did make land battle more interesting personally. (cuts out the cheesing a bit)

@Aayren Ай бұрын

Sadly only a bit, it still stays open for one big blob of an army like VC. 3 points is a must to make both player move around.

@adamperdue3178 Ай бұрын

@@Aayren The point is captured slowly enough that you can fight the blob on your own turns. Unless your main complaint is just that you don't know how to deal with blobs in the first place.

@wyattwelton8599 Ай бұрын

@@adamperdue3178 See you get it, I just like it cause it stops people from corner camping or super noob boxing and staying put

@adamperdue3178 Ай бұрын

@@wyattwelton8599 Or from taking their 3 model cav + flying lord and just running away until time runs out.

@IVIRnathanreilly Ай бұрын

Bring back buildings. You don't need to have a points system if the capture points gave you enough of a buff to counter a box or corner camping

@kylepassey7813 Ай бұрын

Nice to see a good amount of ranged combat once in a while! :D

@Anvilarm07 Ай бұрын

Those magma cannons were disgusting. Great batrep!

@delta_rook6285 Ай бұрын

Great cast as always!

@Khorothis Ай бұрын

I came for Hashut then I came for Hashut. 10/10 loved the barbecue.

@stealthsquirrel4900 Ай бұрын

Ugh I want flame cannons to do even a fraction of the damage that magma cannons do haha. Only Turin can pull of the triple Magma goodness baby.

@Lukashoffmann94 Ай бұрын

And CA seems to hate them, considering how bad the reworked version looks.

@official_kden Ай бұрын

Will there be a dreaded Tournament with some casting when the DLC drops for everyone? :) Keep up the great work, loving the content!

@alexanderf8451 Ай бұрын

Unlocking the control points early makes Domination so much more interesting to watch.

@Nubloot Ай бұрын

Why’s deathclaw not got his tiger stripes anymore?

@healinglight333 Ай бұрын

Spoilers: Respect for trying to make a very one sided battle as interesting as possible in your cast! GGs! It was great to see you outsmarting your opponent by bringing an “off meta” build 🙂

@daddypudding9074 Ай бұрын

What advice does anyone have for playing as TK vs C Dwarves. Since elite infantry and monsters melt vs their infantry and guns, would mass ranged fire do better?

@LinkLegend0 Ай бұрын

Por lord Chicken. Turin is in the zone these past 2 games.

@Killtrobal Ай бұрын

did you notice inn 6:30 that spearmen walked into the fire wile their partners were dying, because they try to fill gaps in the formation. Seems something that should be fixed by the developer.

@mcmarkmarkson7115 Ай бұрын

Lord chicken certainly feasted on some magma this battle!

@Miratesus Ай бұрын

I notice that the units in the video have visible heathbars above their banners, I can't for the life of me figure out how to toggle that on in-game.

@animewarrior3 Ай бұрын

Turin, do you think land battles should have a central control point (just the one) instead of domination type battles? It would give an area to fight over and remoge the kiting for 15 minutes issue of land battles. And turn a very arcady and meh mode back into true total war battles

@edwardfontaine7108 Ай бұрын

That was not an outcome I was expecting!

@BoredHighAdmiral Ай бұрын

Chorf artillery never gets old. Ggs

@kattemallo Ай бұрын

Nice to see domination again, even though I'm not a land battle hater

@johnsnow5125 Ай бұрын

Unsommon the elector counts

@EGGMANGROW Ай бұрын

Empire players only chance there was to call in more cavalry and dive the back with them and Franz to tie up the artillery and guns.

@originalcharacterplznostea2749 Ай бұрын

That battle was won before the units even loaded in, good off meta picks.

@stevel.3903 Ай бұрын

keeping karl franz honest... on his deathbed.

@futhington Ай бұрын

Magma Canons good tech into GS maybe or do they have too many fast disruptive tools like squig hoppers?

@MrSkillcap Ай бұрын

So far I haven't seen a single hochland longrifle unit making use of the snipe trait. Maybe they should be given the vanguard trait too so you can actually place them somewhere sneaky. I think that would be really cool.

@alexanderf8451 Ай бұрын

Snipe doesn't work against (skilled) human players because they can see the bullet trails.

@MrSkillcap Ай бұрын

@@alexanderf8451 it works in the sense that they can't target them back with ranged troops and actually have to send something out to scout them, and also could be kind of difficult to notice them if you have them hold fire until the battle starts properly

@badgersauce Ай бұрын

Your opponent pretty much threw Karl Franz in the trash can when he tried to gank your lord, sad Sigmarite noises

@brightonhansford3926 Ай бұрын

dang, the Chawi showed they are the true WW1 faction XD

@simondiebolt5354 Ай бұрын

Man statetroopers need some texture rework, ever since I heard someone say that they look terrible I can't unsee it!

@Et3rnalRage Ай бұрын

I feel like a blind pick mode would be cool. So you dont know what faction each player is picking

@CommonConnoisseurs Ай бұрын

@Turin I just had a thought after playing some DOTA 2: what do you think about the army building process being a back and forth draft? Starts with the Factions, which are chosen simultaneously, then Lords back and forth, then onto the army selection. Would help with the Rock Paper Scissors element of the Army Selection process. What do ya think?

@niconilo97 Ай бұрын

Actually Siring doom is best use against cavalery type, you used it at one time in the video whit the basic cast and it Destroyed that empire knight!

@devingori8198 Ай бұрын

Please for the love of Sigmar add these maps to ladder. I am hopeful given the finally revised the capture points being locked at the beginning. But I'll believe it when I see it.

@creamcarpet3711 Ай бұрын

It sounds like he's saying 'Chowie', where does that come from?

@arathain2 Ай бұрын

Regular Dwarves call themselves the Dawi, which has a bit of an 'ow' vowel sound in the Northern English accent. Chaos Dwarves are then casually Chawi. Not loreful, just cute.

@creamcarpet3711 Ай бұрын

@@arathain2 ah of course, thanks!

@nikeaddict55 Ай бұрын

Their name according to themselves is "Dawi-Zharr" if you wanted to know

@Bans94 Ай бұрын

There's one major problem I have with Turin's uploads. ... There too short.

@brightonhansford3926 Ай бұрын

SIGMAR BLESS THAT IT ISNT ANOTHER GREENSKINS GAME

@scrublolgameplay8130 Ай бұрын

love the magma cannon pick. its always fun to blow up line of infantry

@mariusweber4990 Ай бұрын

The new gun units for the Empire seem like such a liability in every scenario. There are just too many fast flankers, flyers, point-and-click damage spells and abilities, characters, etc. and they get murdered by anything that touches them. Every game I've seen with them so far had the opponent shut them down with limited effort and instantly take the value lead.

@tobiasL1991 Ай бұрын

This game shows perfectly the definition of a build order loss. This was over right when the game started. Your opponent is good but he's not that incredibly good.

@cheekarp2180 Ай бұрын

Magma cannon way to accurate compared to almost every other arty in the game.

@RyujinRoninReach Ай бұрын

I’m no multiplayer player But damn I had a feeling this was one sided as hell Empire had nothing going for him here just ran his troops straight into their deaths

@13g0man Ай бұрын

The Empire was built to counter an army that didn't exist, and Turin built his to counter the Meta army that the Empire was most likely going for.

@MajorCinnamonBuns Ай бұрын

Magma Cannons eating good this game.

@kurzy124 Ай бұрын

Still no kislev replays. That means its still broken af.

@taylorc53 Ай бұрын

Thank you for a chorf win! I love the chorfs but I feel like most of their units are over priced or under tuned for multiplayer.

@pjadtron9415 Ай бұрын

Chaos dwarfs need some price reductions across the heavy elite infantry board, whilst kislev have so many cheap effective options chaos dwarfs are left in the sand. Tbh Ushabti could also do with a tad buff to melee attack imo.

@davids.376 Ай бұрын

Fighting the urge to dislike - I’ll watch the next one where the empire wins

@animewarrior3 Ай бұрын

Why do long rifles not have shield breaker??

@Phijkchu_Dialga Ай бұрын

They got -stalk- snipe instead. that's the simplest anser.

@Justostar9 Ай бұрын

@@Phijkchu_Dialga Snipe*

@animewarrior3 Ай бұрын

@@Justostar9 fat lot of good it does em.

@lich109 Ай бұрын

Because they're literally long rifles. They're handguns made to have longer range, as opposed to something like Deck Gunners which have an entirely different calibre, or Jezzails which use a different calibre and Warpstone.

@animewarrior3 Ай бұрын

@@lich109 so. The loud Crack of a musket equates to snipe then?

@tundrawolf5127 Ай бұрын

Magma cannon go brrrrrrrrr

@Timo-tm6rj Ай бұрын

3 magma-cannons sounds cancerous to fight against

@majormoolah5056 Ай бұрын

Even when falling from the sky with zero kills, Franz is still a true hero: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNKmppV336yaZKM.html

@PauloSouza-ls2et Ай бұрын

chaos dawi mechanics...

@NerexaGames Ай бұрын

That was depressing to watch ...

@turinRTS Ай бұрын

hahahaha

@timmidietaubetaube2643 Ай бұрын

Turin why do call them hogland rifles. Its a german word which means highlands.

@Luizguilherme-iz9yl Ай бұрын

i do believe magmacannons are grossly overdone, it looks so excessive, like for the same price and amount of units it didn't feel at all like a balanced fight, i do know one build was made to counter the other but still

@timothymallory6706 Ай бұрын

Most niche units are "overpowered" when facing the things they are designed for and not facing the things that they suck against. A different empire build and we'd be hearing how magma cannons still suck.

@Luizguilherme-iz9yl Ай бұрын

@@timothymallory6706 do they? because they seem to overperform against infatry, and all factions(except brets) got a lot of infantry

@decay79 Ай бұрын

Hahaha Franz shows his true worth ! 🤣🤣🤣 Now we gonna have to continue listening to you complain he's too squishy in the future ? 😉

@turinRTS Ай бұрын

He's fine

@jaydendavidson8950 Ай бұрын

Heavy armored Goblins would be unbelievably cool for the Chaos Dwarves. Make them slightly faster than dwarves small units as lore wise only the "verteran" labours that have been moving metal and rock for years amd have gained muscle mass equal to small orcs or something.

@tear4442 Ай бұрын

No. Goblins are the lowest tier of slave, they don't get armor. An armored Hobgoblin, maybe. But not armored goblins or orcs.

@_Slog_ Ай бұрын

Sorry Turin, but whenever I hear CHOW-EE, I just can't help but be triggered into feelings of white-knuckled, unbridled rage, and then I have to turn off the video and unsubscribe. But then like a junkie, I immediately return the next day for that good-good content you produce.

@galeforce21 Ай бұрын

Chaos Dwarves still need tuning, no way those magma cannons should be that effective with that range, same goes with the blunderbus units, they're way more effective than the new dwarf ones

@animewarrior3 Ай бұрын

The more i watch mp battles, the more i realize its 70% based o. Rock paper scissors with what you bring. And you can never bring all 3.