The thing about mirror reflex it's a kind absurd when you remember old games without rtx have reflex in the mirrors

One of the few times I actually like the Non RT Shadows and Ambient Occlusion. Which is a good thing because the RT is really Hits the GPU Heavy in this game.

Reflections are the only thing that honestly goes up a level with RTX

You made the video by analyzing the good and bad parts from various perspectives. There were many places where RT artificially manipulated the environment to show only the overwhelmingly good parts, but this gives good information. Thank you for the great video.

only magic really can make a stone floor shine so bright. I think it looks weird when they force reflections on any kind of surface

The only thing I really like about RT is the reflections, it just feels like a nice touch. Other than that I don't really see much of a difference and actually prefer the non-RT version on most comparisons scenes

3:44 Damn, look at that. RTX on with Mafia 3 mirror quality. Now character can see how he looks like in a muddy reflection.

RT may be physically more correct but I honestly think RTX off looks better. Especially the scene with the grass ambient occlusion looked really dull?

Reflection I like a lot here, the RT Ambient occlusion and the RT Shadows I can live without as in many cases the other method has a more pleasing end result (such as the scene with the cat in or the shadows on the kid reading or the trees they all look more pleasing to me with RT off).

rt doesn't really change anything in this game, only reflections could make i bit of difference but performance is more important consider the difference

Great comparison, thanks! There are moments when I think RT shadows are clearly better, like the boy laying on the rug studying with shadows softly moving everywhere. But in most other places, non-RT looked better I think, even if it wasn't as realistic maybe.

Interesting that the majority of the time I think it looks better with it off. Most of the interiors look a little bit nicer with it on, but for ye most part it I think I looks better when it’s off and you’re outdoors. It doesn’t seem to be worth the performance cost to me, I would have it on for the mirrors but again is that really worth the performance cost? I feel like it’s probably not.

Is it me or the AO really looks good on RTX off?

I like RT reflections and shadows, but RT Ambient Occlusion doesn't seem to be working right in this game. The non raytraced AO looks better honestly

I like the eefect of RT shadows and reflections but the Ambient Occlusion seems more pleasing without RT. Can you change RT aspects separately?

I think the only thing worth turning on is the reflections every other method is just so much more performant but if your gonna generate the BVH for the reflections might as well use it for the other effects or not at all.

Thanks mate... I'll be going 4k, DLSS Quality, RT reflection on only. Hoping for 50fps 100% locked on 3080ti & 12900k @ 5.2.

One question... whiler you were trying reflection, were the shadows and ambient oclutions turned on or off and vice versa?

las sombras de los arboles son completamente estáticas con rt a diferencia de las sombras del juego 0:44

Maybe the only time the diffuse shadows look better to me was on the plant pot the rest is a lot worse. prime example being the building shadow it's so boring looking without it. So I hope they allow you to tweak this or turn it off by type as 2/3rda of this is worse to me. The Reflections are almost always an improvement though (except when they glitch out)

Very nice comparison. Must have taken alot of work. Altho it makes non-RT mode look worse than it is. non-RT reflections are screen-spaced and actually look very similar to RT when not looking at the floor like in comparisons. But it's true that that is where they differ the most so it's good for comparison. Would just be nice to also compare how reflections look when looking them normally

Do I think the game looks better without raytracing in most cases?

Even w/o rtx it looks good I am pretty sad that RT Indirect Lighting is not implemented

RT always looks like more of an artistic choice than actually making things look "better"

Rt reflection is ok, rt AO sometimes difficult to notice, rt shadows look nice, however rt shadows don't move like tree on wind, besides no Shadow from Hogvards

No sé por qué pero hay muchas escenas que me parecen más bonitas sin ray tracing 😅 Debe ser la costumbre o algo

Will be very good once they fix the errors. Reflections very benefitial, the shadows profit a lot from having no atrocious aliasing anymore and the AO is the finishing touch just as a nice bonus if you have performance headroom. Will wait with purchase till fixed and till my next GPU and it will be an absolute visual joy!

Amazing, Ray Tracing is a real game changer!! Not really. Of course the tech nerds will attack me now and defend ray tracing by saying this game is yet another example of a poor ray tracing implementation. Yeah no, we've heard it for 3 years. Apparently every single game with ray tracing has a "poor implementation" in that case. Here's another explination: Its overrated.

The ambient occlusion seems to not work at all so the default method is better, I've never really cared about reflections in games either so I'll stick to the basic reflections, the shadows though, especially around those windows with the ornate designs or the bridge, it'd be a shame not to have it on.

Not sure if you're using low settings for the effects because on PC the screen space reflections on ultra look way better, basically as clear as the RT reflections but with the usual screen space artifacts.

To anyone currently having issues on pc with it chugging turn raytracing shadows and ao off but u can keep reflections

With RTX better reflection in mirrors, but why are there no reflections without RTX, even in Bloodrayne 2 they were.

Sad to see no fade to shadow maps on long RT shadows, unlike Forspoken, of all games, does it. And the reflections... this seems like the bare minimum to get the Nvidia RTX sticker... I'm going with RT reflections and shadows in interiors but will very likely toggle them off outside... shadow maps are actually dynamic *and* I bet performance matters in actual gameplay but not while walking around Hogwarts. And yes, as ridiculous as it sounds, if I can toggle RT on and off I'll just pause the game, toggle it off, and keep playing the game. A 10 second pause never hurt anyone.

RT Reflections add most to the game. Shadows and occlusion not so much. But the RT reflections aren't 'clean'. For that you can do an Engine.Ini tweak that substantially cleans up the reflections quality and it's not pixelated (low quality that Avalanche did). Does take a performance hit. I am going to run with RT reflections and turn shadows and AO off I think. Don't know if it will help performance, but still.

some shadow especially in 4:40 look better with rtx off. More natural. And ambient occlusion much better with rtx off. But reflection & light feel muchc better on rtx. Overall it between yes & no

Well made video, thanks. Minus the music. And the blue graphical elements don't look so good.

There are Parts that I like RTX on and other parts not making that much difference, some parts AO, shadows, and reflections looks good and others not, so overall, I think the RTX in this game still needs alot of work! Good video though.

RTX gives that extra bit of "grounded-ness" where everything interacts with everything else more. I never realized it until now, but simply having the environment change tint and hue in reaction to different light sources makes the graphics infinitely more realistic that polygons or textures. My brain expects reality to react a certain way to light and shadows and RTX simulates that.

Such a good looking game, either way. I think I prefer RTX off for some of the scenes, but RTX on seems to make the picture a lot more vibrant, which I like. Great comparison video, gracias!

Hardware Unboxed covered why this game is so brutal on cards. I underestimated how important vram was going to be, and now I have to consider when I should consider moving to a card that can deal with games like this. Crazy since going from a 1070 to a 3080 was already quite the step up and I expected a good few years before games would be able to stress the card significantly.

Only rt reflection worth in this game, but strongly needed to edit reflections resolutions via config

Somehow the first example on shadows, with the outdoor tree, looked better without, but the second one with the student went 1000 times better with rtx on as it should

I think reflections are cool and actually transformative while shadows not as much if at all

reflections make things too shiny most of the times, they lose the roughness of the sutface like on the first example. The other effects..meh..maybe more accurate shadows on characters are good?

I like RT off for shadows and AO. Maybe there’s a bug with tem enabled.

some part of the RTX effects could be a little bit distracting and losses alot of the original texture such as the floors... not all floors are suppose to look super shiny such as 6:57

Pretty basic ray tracing implementation with low amount of rays. This makes everything way noisier than it should be. Also, AO is almost invisible compared to the SS variant and does not seem to come with bounce lighting. This is likely due to console versions handling RT badly and the game already having a decent demand on the rig without it. We would need optional higher settings on PC if only for future proofing (or high-end rigs).

the light behavior is better with rt but non rt variant also looks nice, the surface with rain looks better with rt on to me than non rt variant, but non rt variant is also nice i dont know about shadows, sometimes non rt variant looked better, but prob rt shadow variants were more realistic generally not so big dramatical differences, only depends if ur system can handle rt on variant and which one u prefer rt technology still needs to advance a lot, even though newer games try to apply rt technology but not all of them can do it well, so for now everyone can live without rt until it advances more to an impressive visual level and good performance optimization

My LG C1 gives me the option to play in graphics mode at 60fps so I'm using that. Could get a 120fps with a slightly lower resolution and details but I'm good

5:56 floor reflections is the reason why I want to keep RTX on, but the Ray Tracing is not optimized for this game at all right now.

For the PS5 version, does it support addaptative triggers? If so, how is implemented? Like in which situations does it apply?

Por primera vez, el rtx, no hizo su trabajo, y no entiendo como se ve mejor sin el rtx XD Edit: en algunas cosas si, pero en otras no

wow, the RT is all over the place, it looks like the RTAO is not working, then some places the GI doesnt work like in 6:22 (which 99% of the time it's broken), then looks like the only thing that works is the reflection and shadows. I think overall they focused on non-RT look and made the RT as an after thought. So from the look of it, it's better to only turn on the RT reflection and ignore all since a lot of places requires reflections

Siento que la oclusion ambiental por RT no esta funcionando como deberia, espero y sea un error el cual puedan corregir, porque si ese es el resultado "correcto" del RTAO entonces esta mucho mejor sin ese efecto de RT.

Pregunta desde mi ignorancia. no será que en la consola o pc en que se probó este juego no está preparado para explotar el RT ?

Nice upload, shows the differences perfectly, what GPU and CPU are you running if I may ask.

Is this Ray Tracing from the PC-Version or from PS5/XBSX? Is there a difference between the Ray Tracing on PC and the Ray Tracing option on console?

for normal gameplay, idk if RT is worth the extra bit of reflective detail at the cost of GPU usage cost

some shots kinda dont make sense when SSR not working. could use better angle for comparison, next time

the water reflections are still screen space, if you look up and down they disappear.

Oh my Good... 9:26 tower shadow in right corner. So big shadow jump, horrible.

i think the RT ambient occlusion is bugged, when u turn it on theres no AO at all........

That noise in the RT shadows is so bad when it was on the characters face. Seems like its a very low quality of RT shadows at 3:20

The Reflections for me jitter too much when you move the camera around and they seem to be relly low quality for some reason

0:04 With this marble surface texture, it is more realistic with RTX turned off.

Love the Shadow casting wand

Honestly, except for the reflections that make the game look significantly better, it almost looks like with RT off, the game looks better or at least not at all worse. This is the first game I might consider running RT off to make the game look better :D How ironic..

I think the game looks excellent over all. But I do find it hilarious that to get 360 / ps3 era mirror reflections, you need to destroy your performance with ray tracing lol And honestly, the fact that outside of the shadows and reflections in some instances I don't see much difference overall, I don't think the small jump is worth the massive hit to performance

0:44 They turned off tree animation or for RTX or is it accident ? Similar thing 3:03 it looks like there are no living people.

Shadows are the most transformative for this game followed by reflections, but Ambient occlusion is not doing so much

Can you please do another comparison with edited .ini files for improved ray tracing settings

El juego en general es muy bonito visualmente, lo estoy jugando en PS5 y lo estoy disfrutando mucho, como si fuera niño.

I do wonder what quality setting the ray tracing is on for this video? The mirror reflection makes me think it might be low or medium? If so, that might explain why some of the ray tracing seems worse than the shots without it?

Apparently, the shadows are initially low resolution. Some time with RT they are very blurry. Looks no better than the maximum shadows in Genshin Impact. Btw, why aren't algorithms like PCSS (not RT) used almost anywhere?

Good to know that I'm not missing much by disabling RT. I'll say it here again, the only RT effect worth trading framerate for is Global Illumination. Everything else is either not noticeable enough or consumes too much or consumes too much framerate for how little it impacts the graphics. Sadly, only a couple of games utilize Global Illumination RT well, namely Cyberpunk 2077 and Metro Exodus.

which is the more realistic between 4k No RayTracing + no DLSS or 2k RayTracing + DLSS UltraPerformance?

No sé, yo pienso que muchas veces se pasan con el RT. Por ejemplo, en la madera de las paredes... Como no tengan una tonelada de barniz, no deberían funcionar como un espejo jeje. Y el suelo de piedra... Para que refleje tanto, deberían encerarlo muchísimo o pulirlo a conciencia. Generalmente, en la vida real, esos materiales no reflejan así.

Beside reflections raytracing is barely noticed. They did a good job with shaders. Anyway I play the game without raytracing because on RTX 3080 it works not good at some parts.

The problem with RT on the consoles right now is that it downgrades some of the game graphics to be able to handle it, and while it does have good looking reflections, the downgrade makes rt off seem like a no brainer..

You can see at 8:16 the reflections shimmering - It's really off-putting in game, I don't like it at all. Feels like reflections are broken in HL a little.

The game has full compatibility of the dualsense on PC ????

floors look so good it is crazy,.. basically makes everything look like cgi,.. this is the first game I actually went for lower resolution,..

Os espelhos podiam usar a mesma técnica usada no jogo "Hitman"

Thank you exactly what I was looking for!

Hm. RT shadows seem pretty worthwhile, especially if you're using Lumos, but ambient occlusion just looks botched

If You can just turn on ray tracer reflections I would call it a day. Some scenes with rt shadows off looks better to me than those with rt on.

The low res RT reflections can be made good via ini file tweaks. They look real bad out of the box.

Спасибо за работу. В половине примеров только портится картинка из за включения, поэтому останусь на 3060 ti с пропускной 600+...

That feeling when the reflection in the mirror in the game Max Payne 2 without any rays is much better)

1:52 Es posible que solo sea yo, pero en esta parte me gusta más con el RTX desactivado. No se me gusta más como se ven las sombras. A lo mejor es cosa mía.

Which mode do you on Xbox?

it only me? or do shadow look bad with rt or i just prefer the non rt shadows

Does anyone else think the rt reflections make everything look wet? Is there a way to tone it down without turning it off?

Hmm on XSX i play on performance where RT should be turned off, but it seems like it's just partially disabled, because I have all of that reflexions

3:20 the RTX reflections are beautiful

You know games could have reflections without ray tracing. I feel they purposefully made non ray tracing look slightly worse and didn’t put hand made reflections to make ray tracing look better. Not saying ray tracing is inferior to faking reflections but it’s not like you can’t do it at all, feels lazy

Like the RT Reflections on the ground. But werd on some cases its look even worse that non RT. So il stick with no RT.

Weird. Sometimes shadows look sharper and the other time the opposite.

interiors look better with RTX just because of the reflections off the marble floors. other than that i can really see any clear benefit. inside Hogwarts looks amazing though

This is one of the worst RT implementations I've ever seen.