Holdchecking: Beginner to Asura Guide - Naraka Bladepoint

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Heaven aka. Penemue

Heaven aka. Penemue

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There is a systematic way of hitting more blue focus attacks in Naraka Bladepoint, getting parried less and reading your opponents better. It’s called holdchecking and you’re gonna learn it in this video.
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00:00 What is holdchecking
00:10 How to holdcheck
00:33 Benefits
00:40 Predict punish parries
01:18 Predict punish dodges
01:45 React punish parries
02:12 React punish light attacks
02:24 Releasing at their 1.0 timing
03:02 Cancel the holdcheck
03:44 Why it's called holdchecking
04:04 Advice for solos
04:23 Advice for trios
04:45 How to counter holdchecking
06:16 Abilities / F skills
06:45 Please like, comment and subscribe

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@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
How do you like my ill voice? 😺 Special thanks to: NineOne (teacher), Kingsman aka Mahesvara (actor), Plom (peer review, actor), Stormblessed (actor), as well as all teammates and sparring partners who appear in the video.
@IceQueenSexica
@IceQueenSexica Жыл бұрын
as a veteran, i've never seen a better guide on combat from any other top players. Yours is unmatched. Keep up!
@beowulf8757
@beowulf8757 Жыл бұрын
Your videos deserve more views. They're very informative and in-depth without being overly complicated.
@sleep3481
@sleep3481 Жыл бұрын
true
@L3Delta
@L3Delta Жыл бұрын
You my man, earned a god damn sub, just getting back in to naraka after just playing a bit on release, and im just watching ur guideplaylist on repeat, so infomative, no bullshit, well described and easy to understand. When naraka eventually goes FTP and blows up, ur guides are gonna pop so hard, keep up the good work!
@fiamma5561
@fiamma5561 Жыл бұрын
BEST GUIDE ON KZfaq BY FAR
@KipacWF
@KipacWF Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos out there imo, and i think u r the only 'non chinese' guy who techically made this 'neutral' aka 'negotiation phase' guide, very informative.
@Flowilty
@Flowilty 2 ай бұрын
probably the best guide for players looking to get serious
@johnwayne-kd1pn
@johnwayne-kd1pn 4 ай бұрын
This is great, one of the first videos I watched when I started, and it helped me out alot. It also really helped me understand the dynamics of combat better.
@Penemue
@Penemue 4 ай бұрын
glad it helped!
@stonersparky
@stonersparky 10 ай бұрын
This is a great tutorial that sheds light on the combat system from a high skill perspective. The biggest issue for me as someone is just starting to play ranked, the bots are absolutely frustrating. Sometimes they are easy to fight, and other times they are full-on auto aim auto counter killing machines that can pick you out of a bush. Hopefully it won't take long to get into full real player lobbies so I can actually practice these techniques lmao.
@Juno_san
@Juno_san Жыл бұрын
This is really informative for beginners keep it up bro!
@lynxofhungary8409
@lynxofhungary8409 Жыл бұрын
This deserves more views.
@sserg90
@sserg90 Жыл бұрын
This is a pure gold. I am so grateful that you share this info with everybody, so we all can learn and get better (especially we who are late to the "party").
@Noxerii
@Noxerii 11 ай бұрын
This. I’m a PlayStation player who just got the game. I was never into melee combat games later SF8 or MK11. So learning this guide really helped now I just gotta incorporate this into my gameplay, along with dodging for the I-frames.
@mrp8231
@mrp8231 5 ай бұрын
Automatically subbed 🔥🔥🙂
@einfachButzi
@einfachButzi 10 ай бұрын
your guides are the best, keep it up
@wave81210
@wave81210 Жыл бұрын
Your content is wayyy to underrated bro, I'm pretty sure there are not as many guides like this if you search "Naraka guide" or something like that. So keep doing what you doing bro. Wish you all the best🙏
@sleep3481
@sleep3481 Жыл бұрын
your guides are insane and so detailed nice
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😸
@zay5872
@zay5872 Жыл бұрын
Great guide!
@DazaiNB
@DazaiNB Жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@nutty69x
@nutty69x Жыл бұрын
from the beginner, thanks a lot, bro.🙏
@KairiCaitlyn
@KairiCaitlyn Жыл бұрын
really great insight & vid! tysm!
@essegotdatheat3310
@essegotdatheat3310 Жыл бұрын
Good videos man. Sending these to my friends so they can catch up 😆
@awegjlappenaeofgihn
@awegjlappenaeofgihn Ай бұрын
No cap. The Music you use in your guides is fire :D Tysm for the Guide
@Penemue
@Penemue Ай бұрын
Sankyu, feel free to praise me more, I don't mind it at all
@awegjlappenaeofgihn
@awegjlappenaeofgihn Ай бұрын
​@@Penemuebro for Real, it helped me in an instant today. I could read them better, since i didnt just go full ham on them to get priority :3 seeing if there doing the same or do it like me before i das this Video. :D but im still so garbage with parie and to see which attack they do and how i can counter it since you have not that much time to Think about it as a newbe :D but it gets better with time for sure:)
@izecu6107
@izecu6107 Жыл бұрын
goddamn brotha this was the best guide i have seen verry nice man
@DlaSavageGamer
@DlaSavageGamer 11 ай бұрын
This was extremely helpful. Thank you!
@Penemue
@Penemue 10 ай бұрын
sankyu! nice username lol :D
@rustamnaraka
@rustamnaraka Жыл бұрын
Very well made guide 👌
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
Thanks rusty 👍
@Eraldos
@Eraldos Жыл бұрын
Great vid Penemue :)
@jordansalsa8874
@jordansalsa8874 Жыл бұрын
thanks bro
@fadilrahadiansyah4223
@fadilrahadiansyah4223 Жыл бұрын
this is advanced movement combat, even i cannot do this perfectly, thanks for the explanation
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
There’s a lot more to movement than this and most of it is intuitive, so not sure I would call it that. But glad you found it useful
@fadilrahadiansyah4223
@fadilrahadiansyah4223 Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue i even still strugling against bots lmao, the bots are now great for training a real game, the hard bot now got some of advanced movement and combos like this holdchecking moveset
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
@@fadilrahadiansyah4223 watch my 3ban guide if you haven't already, you can find better practice in 3bans than against bots
@fadilrahadiansyah4223
@fadilrahadiansyah4223 Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue hoo not yet, i will check it out
@kyuketsukii
@kyuketsukii Жыл бұрын
Would you ever consider making a series or a guide on how to go about fighting each weapon/punishing them? If you ever do make any I’d really appreciate it!
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
I’ll think about it but I’ll first check if this already exists and if so, how much value I can add compared to what could be there
@kyuketsukii
@kyuketsukii Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue thanks, Much love. Keep up the good work!
@0b0100
@0b0100 Жыл бұрын
another nice video; also if someone is playing around late charge timings i also consider releasing 0.9s.
@Guilty132
@Guilty132 Жыл бұрын
What? These decimals are confusing. What exactly is ".9s"? and how would you tell? I'm not used to fighting game lango, so these terms make zero sense to me.
@0b0100
@0b0100 Жыл бұрын
@@Guilty132 ah, 0.9 (think i added an 's' to make plural) is what some people call releasing at the earliest possible time, which is slightly before the blue flash & audio cue.
@Guilty132
@Guilty132 Жыл бұрын
@@0b0100 🙏🏾 makes sense now, thank you.
@Darksaber96
@Darksaber96 Жыл бұрын
Ah, thanks for the guide! Just like the combat guide, I feel like I'm gonna come back to this a couple times down the road. I am wondering what to do when you aren't the first to hold blue? In my mind there should be three options: 1. Genuinely trying to predict what the enemy will do and reacting to that - that I realize should be exactly what the enemy want if they are really holdchecking. 2. Playing safe by dodging out before enemy can do a 1.0 release - punishable by dodge plus vertical just as specified in the guide 3. Seed wrong impressions, e.g. actually parrying once at 1.0 timing but then not doing it again - depending on what you do, this could also backfire hard. I guess it all comes back to that as you aren't the one to hold first, you lost initiative, thus are just reacting to the opponent now which is a bad situation to be in. I don't see an elegant way of dealing with it for now :'D
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
Your best options are mentioned in the video chapter "how to counter holdchecking". Everything else would be mindgames.
@Darksaber96
@Darksaber96 Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue Right, kinda mentally dismissed that as "some ideas" not being a complete answer. But a reviewing makes me think that it actually is for the purpose of my question, so thanks again. What I distill from that is using a light or ranged attack, I take back the initiative to bait the enemy to react to me instead.
@lightavexir
@lightavexir 5 күн бұрын
thanks for the guide, liked the bgm u used, what does it called? thank you!
@MinekiGaming
@MinekiGaming 7 ай бұрын
@iitzkenji5184
@iitzkenji5184 11 ай бұрын
Hey I was wondering what skin where u using for Kurumi there in the beginning ?
@Walnutty
@Walnutty 11 ай бұрын
what does "hold dodging" (holding shift) do? i just see my character start running thats all
@kubafraszczyk7517
@kubafraszczyk7517 11 ай бұрын
Now, is there any difference between parrying by pressing both mouse buttons and pressing G?
@mappa3025
@mappa3025 10 ай бұрын
Which character is that and what skin are they wearing? 0:01
@Spychopunk2077
@Spychopunk2077 11 ай бұрын
how do you deal with the people who do late charge release? I ended up guarding too early most the time lol....
@Penemue
@Penemue 11 ай бұрын
various options, here are some: 1. parry and follow up with F, this is like parrying twice in a row with no gap 2. hold, dodge backwards and parry if they release a slow long-range attack 3. you can surprise them by being the first to hold and releasing at their 1.0 timing, they won't be able to scissor parry you 4. hold, dodge backwards, shoot with ranged 5. if they always release at the same timing, you can parry to counter that timing or their hit with a dodge and light attack stagger them in the back
@Mikiri_Mi
@Mikiri_Mi Жыл бұрын
Thx for this beautiful guide. What about having like 70 ping , do you think it effects timings crucially ?
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
You can dodge less reliably and you will red flash against more enemy attacks. But enemies will also red flash more against you and you can juggle people higher, which means you can do more crazy combos and the timings are very generous for keeping enemies in combos.
@Darksaber96
@Darksaber96 Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue In other guides, especially in combo guides, people often praise the higher ping that they play on. E.g. the apparent sweet spot of 55-70 ping. Your answer to me here sounds more like you think that there is a tradeoff, and not an inherent advantage?
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
@@Darksaber96 it's a tradeoff. some people say around 40 ping is optimal because you have the best of both worlds. i am personally on 15-20 ping and i can dodge things other players can't dodge, but i have to be extremely precise with combos (e.g. longsword blue juggle) or else i'll miss them. and certain combos are unavailable to me.
@Darksaber96
@Darksaber96 Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue Aha! Thank you, this answer makes me no longer worry about my own low ping :D
@aidzeeegaming5685
@aidzeeegaming5685 Жыл бұрын
Hi heaven! Duos question - should I also focus on holding longer blue attacks and parrying like in trios? I seem to get beaten up by one guy with light attacks and the other guy hitting me with focus attacks. And sometimes I can't rely on teammates to peel for me immediately.
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
you should not play duos. if you have only 1 friend, go quick party trios and get to know new people. duos is a trash gamemode with no competitive relevance that rewards you for slacking and being bad. your average unrivaled asura duo player is on the same skill level as a platinum-solar trio player. at least in EU
@aidzeeegaming5685
@aidzeeegaming5685 Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue guess duos is unbalanced if that's the case then
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
It’s has nothing to do with balance, netease just made the decision that they want to promote solos and trios as competitive game modes and duos as a casual game mode. So they fill any spots in duo lobbies that aren’t filled after a few minutes with bots. That should tell you everything. And it makes sense because you need a third player to get you out of trouble in team game situations
@chiefbeef6047
@chiefbeef6047 11 ай бұрын
the skin at 0:00 doesnt even show up in the shop or on hero collections where is it asking for a friend
@Guilty132
@Guilty132 Жыл бұрын
So just to clarify, the 1.0 would be when the blue focus does it 1st "ding" right? So then .5 would be considered a half charge and 2.0 would be a full hold or 2nd ding of the blue focus?
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much. Though halfcharge can be anything from 0.1 to 0.9, the term is perhaps a bit misleading. But “less than full charge” sounds silly, so we call it halfcharge.
@Guilty132
@Guilty132 Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue 🙏🏾 thank you. I'm trying to get used to these terms.
@jorian10
@jorian10 Жыл бұрын
alot of useful information, however it can be hard to apply some of this stuff when ping is 70+ most games.
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
I never played on 70 ping but I guess you can at least do combos better and be more unpredictable to your enemy
@Yuumeda
@Yuumeda Жыл бұрын
im xbox and have idk how many % packet loss but i know my EU Apex ping is 10ms, and my EU Naraka ping goes from 70 to 250 to 100 to 180 and simply never stabilizes lmao.. with INSANE frame drops (often frame freezes lasting up to 3-4 seconds every fee seconds) everytime a 3rd party comes in
@youngflyrabza4518
@youngflyrabza4518 2 ай бұрын
Is it worth to have second version of this guide since lot of things have changed?
@Penemue
@Penemue 2 ай бұрын
no, nothing has changed. holdchecking is still the same
@ah-ys8gs
@ah-ys8gs 29 күн бұрын
​​@@PenemueThx for info. Glad to know i can still follow this vid. Literally just started playing yesterday and some ppl in quickmatch do this charge bait n sliding around shit beating my parrying ass😂
@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533
@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533 Жыл бұрын
Great guide btw I'd say I'm semi decent at the game but I was wondering if you have any guides against multiple opponents I find my teammates always get bodied and I'm forced into 2 v 1 or 3 v 1 situations especially in higher ranks I do still struggle in the 1 v1 mode as aswell though I can never tell what's guaranteed and what isn't sometimes it's just seems others have better damaging exchanges like there's this katana /dual blades weapon swap combos I can't seem to escape it's the standard uppercut into grapple hook and the swap and hit me with a full charged horizontal into the extended focus attack finish any tips and sorry for the essay
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
This is very hard to read, can you break it down into simple short questions please?
@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533
@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533 Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue woah hand on not sure how tf I messed this bad was probably rushing through my texting give me a sec to edit it
@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533
@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533 Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue oh after looking through it we're only a few mistakes you must just mean it was to Long you didn't feel like reading it well forget about it I'll figure it out myself through experience anyways
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
I’m happy to answer any questions about the game, but please help me out by keeping them easy to understand. Your message reads like an unfiltered stream of conscious, and without punctuation, I’m a little bit lost :(
@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533
@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533 Жыл бұрын
@@Penemue well so you know my comment wasn't meant to be rude . But since you asked in short i need tips against multiple opponents.also maybe some tips on what combos are guaranteed and what aren't .
@roberttate7967
@roberttate7967 11 ай бұрын
how did you cancel that quick your blue for a counter that quick??
@Penemue
@Penemue 11 ай бұрын
You can just press the quick parry button
@derper4553
@derper4553 Жыл бұрын
Holdchecking is good on paper, but in reality when i release blue focus as a reaction to enemy light attack they still manage to parry somehow. It is realy frustrating, what am i doing wrong? 100 fps, 70 ping P.S great video, anyway, helps me understand game better
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
depends on enemy weapon. if they use dagger or nunchucks for example. they can bait with LA into your focus so they parry. 70 ping is pretty high. but you can still outsmart them by predicting this.
@ollieander
@ollieander 11 ай бұрын
I am starting in bronze....and using these do techs do not work as no one does this...what advice do you have
@Penemue
@Penemue 11 ай бұрын
this doesn't work in bronze? if everyone just releases 1.0 you just parry 1.0
@ollieander
@ollieander 11 ай бұрын
@@Penemue no because in bronze everyone is just attack happy so trying to out play a holdcheck does not happen. and I have changed my play style to doing grapple checks (knocking then using grappling hook. RINSE REPEAT)
@Penemue
@Penemue 11 ай бұрын
@@ollieander sounds like you're mostly fighting bots, give it some time to rank up and you can play against stronger opponents
@ollieander
@ollieander 11 ай бұрын
@@Penemue Bots are in ranked?
@Penemue
@Penemue 11 ай бұрын
​@@ollieander yeah most lobbies have at least a few bots and in higher rated lobbies you sometimes encounter bots that play pretty well. low rated lobbies (especially bronze) are usually very full of bots
@tatakaetatakae3358
@tatakaetatakae3358 4 ай бұрын
What does parry mean
@Penemue
@Penemue 4 ай бұрын
Block blue attacks
@anasalmatuoq2520
@anasalmatuoq2520 10 ай бұрын
My ping is around 200ms and I'm using controller. Any tips?
@Penemue
@Penemue 10 ай бұрын
on that ping you have to try to predict what your enemy is doing, you cannot really react to their attacks. do you have a way to lower your ping? 200ms is very harsh for naraka
@anasalmatuoq2520
@anasalmatuoq2520 10 ай бұрын
@@Penemue no I'm in the middle east we have good ping for many popular games but Naraka is always among the high ones it sometimes kicks us out mid game. We can never perform a counter unless by shear luck
@Penemue
@Penemue 10 ай бұрын
​@@anasalmatuoq2520 that's unfortunate, can only hope that naraka will open additional servers as the game grows over time. i don't think playing on 200ms is a good experience neither for you nor for the people you meet ingame. but if you enjoy the game it's understandable that you want to play regardless
@anasalmatuoq2520
@anasalmatuoq2520 10 ай бұрын
@@Penemue we do, my friends are leaving the game because of that and we all wish to support it. Anyway you can helps reach our voices to the devs? Or to a big community
@Penemue
@Penemue 10 ай бұрын
@@anasalmatuoq2520 the naraka team already knows. if they choose to open new servers in new regions, i'm sure they will communicate it widely. until then, i don't know anything more than what the community managers are sharing on community streams
@ajmg1993
@ajmg1993 9 ай бұрын
NEIN JNEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN still good video but i watched it tab muted xD
@Penemue
@Penemue 9 ай бұрын
huh?
@ajmg1993
@ajmg1993 9 ай бұрын
@@Penemue na i hate holdcheck xD
@Penemue
@Penemue 9 ай бұрын
@@ajmg1993 git gud AJ derp XD
@60Seconds_60
@60Seconds_60 Жыл бұрын
The thing is very simple . 10-15 Ping vs 80-90 ping And the winner is not talent, but the quality of the Internet
@lynxofhungary8409
@lynxofhungary8409 Жыл бұрын
So like in every game? 80-90 is playable btw but it has obvious throwbacks. The funny thing is that it has some advantages too in this game for some reason. Having a ping on the lower end is a lot better tho.
@InkDicee
@InkDicee Жыл бұрын
The parry is a dog system sadly
@Penemue
@Penemue Жыл бұрын
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