Holden vs Ford: The Birth of Australia’s V8 Supercars - Past Gas

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In December of 2001, Aussies across the continent were hit with earth shattering news - Holden Racing Team’s golden boy, Craig Lowndes, was joining Ford’s Blue Oval. Shockwaves rippled through the legions of loyal V8 Supercar racing fans - it was known that you were either team Holden or team Ford, and there was no switching sides. A rivalry deeper than the Hatfield and McCoys, and more bitter than the Red Sox and Yankees, was about to be put to the ultimate test. But how did this deep seated rivalry even begin? Is this the story of gladiators being forged in the crucible of ultimate battle or just two bastions of the same big corporate business propping up car sales with race wins? Has this famed automotive rivalry from down under come to a peaceful conclusion and broken generational racing curses?
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@jaspercox3706
@jaspercox3706 Жыл бұрын
this one is good because im Australian
@kyleburdine6301
@kyleburdine6301 Жыл бұрын
This one’s rad because I’m American
@riley.s
@riley.s Жыл бұрын
Same
@aarontimm
@aarontimm Жыл бұрын
that's super cool jaspercox3706. thanks for sharing!
@batchmotorsport
@batchmotorsport Жыл бұрын
You mean strayan
@skibdenhollander7361
@skibdenhollander7361 Жыл бұрын
Fair.
@FanAtTheFence
@FanAtTheFence Жыл бұрын
Awesome to see Supercars covered on the show! 🏁🏁🏁
@Granturismoveloce
@Granturismoveloce 11 ай бұрын
Can we stop James from talking.
@FizzaMC
@FizzaMC 11 ай бұрын
Oh and just a note that the Torana in 72 was a 3.3 ltr 202ci straight six and the GTHO was a 351ci powerhouse but the efficiency and lighter car with better braking durability helped to be the Falcon in the little Toranas with only just over half of the engine capacity. Worth checking out some more info on the great little Holden GTR XU1 Toranas to see what they were racing against. 🤙
@alexiasewastenko4082
@alexiasewastenko4082 8 ай бұрын
100% Good to see someone mentioning the XU1’s - their power to weight ratio is insane. Very underrated little beasts ❤
@jamessizemore7103
@jamessizemore7103 Жыл бұрын
V8 super car champion Shane van ginsbergen came over state side and whooped the nascar boys on their first street course. It was awesome
@angeloah
@angeloah Жыл бұрын
Laura is a legend, I dig when someone gets in and learns. You gents are great, thanks for the great episode and look into v8 super cars. I was a young buck watching gtr madmen destroy Bathurst, that was my first foray into the Aussie nascar series. Cheers.
@batchmotorsport
@batchmotorsport Жыл бұрын
52:00 you tools still made some tears appear that win by Lowndes after Brocks death was just beautiful.
@alexanderarmstrong1039
@alexanderarmstrong1039 Жыл бұрын
As someone who follows v8 supercars i see this and insta click
@oxxysaurus
@oxxysaurus 11 ай бұрын
Pity it's ruined by the ignorance of these three.
@irfandupovac8628
@irfandupovac8628 Жыл бұрын
To add som context to the 1977 Bathurst 1000. Moffat and Bond were a lap ahead of everybody else. because Ickx was an F1 and sportscar driver, he was used to smashing the brakes which were designed for racing. At Bathurst, the cars used the brakes from the standard car, so he wore them out eventually. Bond was the number two driver in the team and was asked by Moffat if he wanted to enter his car to claim the victory. At that time it was very common and legal for the main drivers of one team to enter the race as participants in both cars. They raced their car of course, but if something were to happen to it, then they could switch to the other car and continue on. Peter Brock won two Bathursts by doing that. However Bond refused. When he came to Moffat's ailling Falcon, he knew he had to hold position, even though he was tempted to floor it and leave Allan behind. But he stayed behind, and that's how we got that iconic finish.
@siggy6044
@siggy6044 Жыл бұрын
I miss the episodes opening with Nolan's dramatic reads, other than that this was a great episode! The bants were funny as heck, especially Nolan fighting back laughs trying to get the show back on track
@darthgroot9130
@darthgroot9130 11 ай бұрын
You guys should consider doing an episode on Helge Meyer and the Ghost Camaro. From the little I know about it, it seems like a pretty lit story
@jimbongos8541
@jimbongos8541 Жыл бұрын
SHOUTS OUT LAURA GOOD JOB GIRL LETS GET IT
@maestro4287
@maestro4287 Жыл бұрын
That was the best fan mail ever
@joeschmoe5009
@joeschmoe5009 11 ай бұрын
Holden commodore was shipped to the u.s. and rebadged as pontiac g8, then gm closed pontiac, and the face lift commodore became the chevy ss. Holden also made the monaro, rebadged as the pontiac gto
@jaspercox3706
@jaspercox3706 Жыл бұрын
that ascent though
@WHDRWN
@WHDRWN Жыл бұрын
Never forget that GM bought Holden because they were competing with gm's euro sales. Essentially holden had it's wings clipped and was kept at arms reach for the next 50 years.
@re5onance244
@re5onance244 11 ай бұрын
GM: the killer of great car companies, as long as you’re not Chevy, Buick, or Cadillac
@Mr.Scootini
@Mr.Scootini 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like what America does to other countries too 😊
@stevie_Unibrow
@stevie_Unibrow 11 ай бұрын
“Gimme my spaghetti and meatballs, cracka!” 😂😂 I’m dying 🤣🤣🤣
@astonwards7236
@astonwards7236 11 ай бұрын
2013 saw the introduction of the Nissan Altima and AMG customer supported Mercedes E55, then in 2014 Volvo joined with the mad sounding S60. The Holden and Ford engines were extremely well developed by that stage and only Volvo was competitive, largely due to the skills of Scott McLaughlin.
@dth2brny121
@dth2brny121 11 ай бұрын
Just got done watching and listening...The Commodore name that was used by Holden, was originally used by Opel. At the time, the Opel Commodore was the 6-cyl. version of the Rekord (in the U.K. the Vauxhall versions were the Carlton--which was the 4-cyl. model, and the Viceroy, which was the 6-cyl. model, respectively), and the Holden Commodore started out as the Australian version of the Opel Commodore, but with Holden 6-cyl. and V8 engines, however. THE MORE YOU KNOW (cue the NBC logo)...
@jamessizemore7103
@jamessizemore7103 Жыл бұрын
What is the first 2 minutes of this podcast😂
@joeyslats31
@joeyslats31 Жыл бұрын
19:14 THe ATCC racing was only for absolutely bone stock cars. So yes, literally STOCK racing cars. Also, the change to 1000km is probably because Australia changed from the imperial to metric system as well as from pounds to dollars.
@moralesernesto556
@moralesernesto556 11 ай бұрын
some how boys you mist the mark on this one ,
@PurestBollocks
@PurestBollocks 11 ай бұрын
That's the most Irish sounding Australian accent I've ever heard. You made the Simpsons Australia episode sound legit. But you make it up for mentioning the Barra engine
@shanebarker3131
@shanebarker3131 6 ай бұрын
Fk it got old after about the 38th time he did it
@markfield6897
@markfield6897 11 ай бұрын
I was at Wal-Mart and Kroger and saw Dunkaroo's at both
@joeschmoe5009
@joeschmoe5009 11 ай бұрын
Worlds longest race track, nurburgring. So a 75 mile cirvuit would have been crazy! Haha
@jeremiahgrande455
@jeremiahgrande455 11 ай бұрын
When Americans react to aussie cars it makes me proud to be one 😂 I recently copped a ‘96 Commodore S and that shit had me jumping with joy
@Mr.Scootini
@Mr.Scootini 10 ай бұрын
Unlike because jealousy
@irfandupovac8628
@irfandupovac8628 Жыл бұрын
Just to addone mor thing. 44:36 Yes, it was during the race.
@HOLDEN1856
@HOLDEN1856 Жыл бұрын
decent, been waiting for this to happen
@matthewcochran3325
@matthewcochran3325 8 ай бұрын
Bathurst is when thousands of Holden fans meet up to fight Ford fans and every now and then a race breaks out.
@ryanhoffmann9341
@ryanhoffmann9341 Жыл бұрын
The first two minutes of this episode reminds me of me and my idiot friends sitting around completely wasting time talking about nonsense!
@Bilko367
@Bilko367 Жыл бұрын
52:15 this is only half correct, when Triple 8 had moved to Holdens, Skaife had been retired from full time driving for a year at that point only doing the enduros with Greg Murphy in 2009, Skaife joined Triple 8 as a co-driver in 2010 and 2011 for the enduros alongside Lowndes where in the 4 races the two shared a car they finished an incredible 4/4 times on the podium, 3 of which were wins and 1 being a 2nd place finish. Since then Skaife has not done any driving in the V8 Supercars.
@lesflynn4455
@lesflynn4455 15 сағат бұрын
Jermaine Clement is a new Zealander.
@LixiN69
@LixiN69 11 ай бұрын
this is so funny to watch as a aussie
@funksta5424
@funksta5424 2 ай бұрын
some images and lil clips would help but good vid
@sick8890
@sick8890 11 ай бұрын
Cover the studebaker story🤙🏽
@aaronmills4238
@aaronmills4238 2 ай бұрын
Can you guys do a video on BTCC please
@nothinghere7391
@nothinghere7391 Жыл бұрын
Small correction for Nolan and James. Ford MADE sick cars that you didn't get. American trend of SUVs and crossovers killed them off
@scotscottscottt
@scotscottscottt 11 ай бұрын
My first guitar was a Hohner. Sadly I still can't play it with my butt.
@stretchymc5126
@stretchymc5126 Жыл бұрын
me: hah, Australians sure do sound funny... me: wait im Australian!
@kennethwehrs8924
@kennethwehrs8924 Жыл бұрын
Nolan, I'm with you. Marshmallow Mateys for the win.
@Ray-lx4wo
@Ray-lx4wo 11 ай бұрын
just curious, where's Bart?
@Joshtube911
@Joshtube911 Жыл бұрын
James is trying way too hard this episode.
@andrewsots2034
@andrewsots2034 8 ай бұрын
Flogs !
@DGKOP72
@DGKOP72 11 ай бұрын
Despite all the heat for the bowtie boys, Chevy V8 supercars are the dankness
@DazDiablo
@DazDiablo 11 ай бұрын
this got weird fast, just the way I like it
@18dubz
@18dubz 11 ай бұрын
that was a dope Australian accent hahahahaha
@missinghood
@missinghood Жыл бұрын
Wondering how many comments are that Jermaine Clement is from New Zealand, not Australia. Here’s one.
@taquito1561
@taquito1561 Жыл бұрын
2:16 Drive to Survive journalist be like:
@NetmanOnline
@NetmanOnline Жыл бұрын
If you like the TruBlu Falcon team, Look up the Greens-Tuf Falcon XE. Best looking Australian Race Car EVER!
@croweater6814
@croweater6814 7 ай бұрын
Worst thing they ever did was ban the Godzilla's, Ford and Holden should've been forced to compete with the foreign imports lifting their game.... They might still exist today.
@adamjohnson8574
@adamjohnson8574 Жыл бұрын
imma be that guy lol Germaine is from New Zealand lol
@SirNecro
@SirNecro 11 ай бұрын
I love it when Americans try to understand us. BTW, Holden was the correct answer.
@bradjames9123
@bradjames9123 Жыл бұрын
Give up with trying to sound Australian every 20 seconds and get on with it, hard watch
@MadDuckofAus
@MadDuckofAus Жыл бұрын
Nah my kids and I were pissing ourselves. It was so bad we had to laugh
@yoboipaxt0n_lit57
@yoboipaxt0n_lit57 11 ай бұрын
Yes well I have a ford falcon with a 351 and I am a big offended being a Aussie but it is ok also I know someone who have a v8 supercar
@danielpeak9676
@danielpeak9676 11 ай бұрын
Lads, ya accents are absolute dogs**t and you should be ashamed 😂 BUT the spirit, enthusiasm and passion shines through and it’s bloody brilliant! Good on ya champions!
@baker967
@baker967 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU
@benholley4978
@benholley4978 Жыл бұрын
Was James drunk? Too much british accent.. So many great stories missed. Needed to touch on why they went ford and holden only after the godzilla dominated '92
@astonwards7236
@astonwards7236 11 ай бұрын
That's only partially true, Group A as a formula was dead, the world had moved to 2L Supertourers at that point.
@moralesernesto556
@moralesernesto556 11 ай бұрын
why post this vidoe of Australia Racing cultute if you spend all the time putting it down,
@justajabronie
@justajabronie Жыл бұрын
I like that @thehoonigans did a Ford vs Holden episode same day. 🤌
@ChrisFellows87
@ChrisFellows87 Жыл бұрын
James 2019 - Beatles are overrated James 2023 - Beatles have a few bops. 😂
@nothinghere7391
@nothinghere7391 Жыл бұрын
James 2027 - Beatles fckin ROCK dude
@Psych0Matt93
@Psych0Matt93 Жыл бұрын
I like james but the constant accent annoying
@BigMoneyWaste
@BigMoneyWaste Жыл бұрын
No that was the best part bruv
@jeremyr7196
@jeremyr7196 11 ай бұрын
Nothing more painful than James’s attempt at an Aussie accent 🤦🏼‍♂️
@bigrigham1651
@bigrigham1651 5 ай бұрын
I loved it 😊
@lesflynn4455
@lesflynn4455 14 сағат бұрын
Come to think of it, maybe this is what finished donut media. James and Co. trying to do Australian accents for an hour. They sound like pirates or pretend Englishmen. I'm surprised they didn't say Aargh! after every sentence.
@vulcanizedanthony145
@vulcanizedanthony145 Жыл бұрын
do an oil change on a 2017 ford edge and you'll stop being a ford fan
@Swerval
@Swerval 11 ай бұрын
I wish james would keep his mouth shut and let nolan talk
@bullhornzz
@bullhornzz Жыл бұрын
What kinda nipples does almond milk come from?
@MadDuckofAus
@MadDuckofAus Жыл бұрын
They only call it milk because Nut Juice is not as palatable
@tylercastles7024
@tylercastles7024 Жыл бұрын
James is starting to get to much
@Buzzkill-dk3gk
@Buzzkill-dk3gk 11 ай бұрын
3:19 f the Yankees
@williamking8684
@williamking8684 Жыл бұрын
Less james please
@SKitty1732
@SKitty1732 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I came here to learn about a motorsport I enjoy and all I hear is James being insufferable with an overly exaggerated Aussie Accent.. I like him but sometimes I'd wish he'd shut up
@jimbojones247
@jimbojones247 Ай бұрын
thats the worst imitation australian accent i have ever heard
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