I have that set up as well and it is awesome.

Michael Maxwell how loud is it on 4s? I run mine in my Capra with the Sidewinder4 on it’s limit @ 3s and my motor fucking screammmmms

I can’t find a cheap esc to run do you recommend any ?

You get very use to it. In fact while rock climbing it gives more feedback on how much stress I am putting on the drivetrain especially when I am bound up in tight rocks. (TRX4 Defender)

Frankly, noise or not, I'd love to have one!!

The reason outrunners don't make noise in planes or drones is because they are not modulated at very low rpms. That's where it makes noise and the outrunner serves as a speaker.

@@RCReviewChannel Funny, John just finally gave me a reasonable answer too!! No, they're not modulated. Also the ESCs run at much lower frequencies, because there's no need for any slow speed control. He told me that if Outrunners catch on more, he's going to work on the "speaker" issue! Then he started going into quantum electronics, and totally lost me!! 😳😖 Could be interesting... John is a brilliant Electronic Engineer. And a NERD!!! 😜

Appreciate it.

Dentist's chair... ha ha!!!

My wife is a hygienist and she says they remind her of her job lol

You can abuse the crap out of that motor. Yes , you can run it in water. My son runs his in lake and river water often, does mudbogs sometimes(he did the Motor-drop conversion on his Trailfinder so its one of the first things to see crud) never cleans it...tho I do recommend cleaning it after with fresh water, compressed air and re-oil the bearing. I know of someone that runs deep mudbogs with a Revolver. Outrunners have no internal electronic's...very simple and durable design.

Woww did not know that! I’ve been shying away from running my Capra in water but not anymore! Ahh man that makes me excited for the next time I take my rig out! Thank you for the reply!

@@HighhScore Oh , you're welcome. I love being excited for a project. But I'm feeling more rushed than excited for my builds because I have so much to do before the yearly Pro-line By The Fire event coming up....this happens every year. Hahaha

Russia, oh man. Proves that a rad lifestyle and hobby crosses all borders.

Does it have a drag brake? Cool idea, i’m looking into it for a 1/18 brushless buggy

Сергей, здравствуйте! Какой ESC рекомендуешь для outrunner двигателя? И какой конфигуратор? У меня crawler на колёсах 140мм, двигатель DXW C3542 920KV (может два двигателя установлю на один спур). И как одеть пиньён на ось (двигатель пока едет ко мне - по этому пока не имею представления как установить)?

Where can I find more info about this?

ScaleCrawling on Holmes hobbies Facebook page but it’s still in the works

That was more in the past when brushless motors were not sensored and jerky. Now, amazing brushless motors have been developed. And these new outrunner motor like the ones in this video have so much modulation and power density now. And they require very small batteries that can be placed anywhere. As far as John Holmes statement, he says a lot of high level competitions still have guys on brushed motors. That's likely cause they're old and have their brushed motor setups dialed perfectly already. In our local areas, competitions are dominated by brushless. Just so many more options with power, delivery and weight. That being said, very high-end brushed motors are still very good. But they require a lot of maintenance.

@@RCReviewChannel Thank you so much Francis for the attention and the time you put in answering my message! 👍 I really didn't expect an answer from the guru himself 😉. Man I spent hours watching and listening to your videos. You became my main information source regarding RC hobby. I really like the vibes when you present your opinions. It's refreshing, funny and soothing all at the same time. I really appreciate what you do. When I will eventually build my rig (I'd like a high -perf capra) you can be sure I will owe it to you and John from Holmes. You guys are at the top of the food chain when it comes to crawlers knowledge😁. You also helped me keep some sanity in this crazy world we live in. Thank you!!! Have a blessed year, you, your family and your loved ones. Best vibes from Belgium !

What brand/model vehicle?

AXIAL SCX-10-2 2000 JEEP CHEROKEE in stock stood 35T.

Why not a 45T?

Svein Hanssen . So it was in stock. I bought a car on RCMart.

@UCSQCY2DqZ6-9cU2iDWen-aQ 1 Never gotten a free product in my life. 2 What in the fuck makes you think I never heard of 3brothers?? I literally work in the rc industry. Willing to bet money I knew a out them long before you buddy. 3 I don't "think it's a knockoff" because you think I have never heard of them. I know it's a knock off because I actually know the ins and outs of the industry and the products in it. And thanks for sending me your little smartass message on fb. Made my day lol! Like who in the fuck goes around threatening KZfaqrs with unsubscribing?? That is a special type of entitlement you got lol!

Holmes or nothing.

You guys are dorks, god forbid there is any competition out there.

Where is the line drawn? Is the trail king just an axial knockoff then? are all 3slot 540 motors knockoffs because they are all built on similar principles.

Oh yeah because there was no such thing as an outrunner before holmes hobbys

I have a batch in assembly right now, probably another month. Some vendors may still have stock though.

Buy a Devolver!

John Holmes best customer support! John you make me want to purchase all Holmes products going forward. Thank you

Yeah, mind-blowing

That is true. But there exists no matching kv for these two. For the record, we have a 2000kv 3Brothers Yellowjacket and the Holmes 1800 is still faster and has more punch. Both are great motors indeed and we have use for both. Noise and modulation are key for us.

Remember that’s a difference of 300kv per volt😎

@@ruftime 300 *rpm* per volt. We are talking 3000rpm difference, not much at all really. That "pop" you see from the HH motor has nothing to do with the difference in KV.

Yes, that is true for a lot of folks

Yeah, who wants greater efficiency, less waste heat, more power, longer run times, virtually no maintenance, worry free under water running, incredible drag brake and super smooth modulation. Such a bad (dumb) idea...

Im pretty partial to my holmes hobby revolvers. Its nice having low end crawler torque and plenty of power and wheel speed to throttle out when in doubt. Sucks having to pick either torque or wheel speed with a brushed motor.

Interesting option. Have you tried it in a crawler? Experiences to share with us? Drones are certainly helping keep the industry push the technology and price envelope since they have economies of scale. Small builders and developers in crawlers have to do all the R&D and testing themselves and make a living.

I'm slowly replacing all my motors with outrunners but I'm not falling for the hype of rebranded drone motors "specially" designed for crawlers. I'd give HH a chance but not for that price. It's not my duty to overpay for something just because it's being sold by a small company. This other company... cheap Chinese drone/rc airplane motor with a fancy graphic. At the end of the day, esc is what matters. I can make a silent crawler esc with AM32 firmware for 30 dollars. Can't believe that people pay 100+ bucks for a flashed drone esc, either.