Home Server PC build with Proxmox - cheap, quiet, powerful

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Christian Lempa

Christian Lempa

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Home Server PC build with Proxmox. What should you consider when building your Home Lab Server? Which hardware parts should you use and what you can do with Proxmox. Here is my new DIY Home Server PC build and how I've done it! #Proxmox #HomeServer #HomeLab
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:36 - What options do you have?
01:25 - Why I built a DIY Home Server PC?
03:51 - Which parts should you put into your Server?
04:01 - CPU: Intel, or AMD?
07:06 - Mainboard
08:07 - Storage: SSDs, HDDs, and ZFS Pools
10:38 - Memory: ECC and Non-ECC
16:33 - Memory: How much?
16:57 - Case and Powersupply
18:20 - Where can you get the parts?
19:45 - What you can do with Proxmox?
22:34 - What I'm doing next...
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@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Look how I've built my NAS System on this Server with TrueNAS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g5mgftOjucqyoYU.html
@user-bb8qr6xl5s
@user-bb8qr6xl5s 2 жыл бұрын
По акценту сразу видно что ты русский
@DigitEgal
@DigitEgal 2 жыл бұрын
Sry for gnawing your logo, 3gal is hungry 🧟‍♂️
@Practical-IT
@Practical-IT 3 жыл бұрын
Ventoy is a great alternative to Rufus that runs on Linux and Windows. Once you do initial prep of the USB stick, you just drag over the ISO images. Pretty slick.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks I'll take a look
@DigitEgal
@DigitEgal 2 жыл бұрын
I love ventoy. Doesnt get it working with pfsense but for most stuff its just drag and drop. Also you have a EFI Drive with you all the time ;)
@PolntBlank
@PolntBlank 2 жыл бұрын
@@DigitEgal Ventoy was so great to find, I wish it existed many years ago when I was doing more installations and builds !! I still love it today, forget having a USB stick for each OS :)... even thought that's way better than a stack of CDs. except you can't lose the stack like you can a flash drive
@MHM4V3R1CK
@MHM4V3R1CK 2 жыл бұрын
This video answered so many of my questions! Thank you!
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear that! :)
@larsthorwald3338
@larsthorwald3338 Жыл бұрын
Great suggestions. I'm rebuilding my NAS this week, and it seems more difficult to spec' full ECC than it was 10 years ago when I put the original system together with Supermicro mobo, ECC UDIMMs and Intel i3 CPU w/ ECC support. The new TrueNAS server will be a nice platform for file storage and to play around with some of the tools you cover in your fantastic walk-throughs. Thanks
@TechSynthOfficial
@TechSynthOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
This is such an interesting video! I love anything to do with this side of technology and you have executed this video fantastically - it's so informative and entertaining! Great content on the rest of your channel too! Keep it up 🔥👍💪
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 makes me happy to see that you're enjoying it!
@Didi_Salah
@Didi_Salah 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool was waiting for that video and great intro BTW i liked it 😁
@77Blackwolf77
@77Blackwolf77 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic and informative video! Thanks again for the effort you put into the channel. I really enjoy your content.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😃 glad you liked the video!
@77Blackwolf77
@77Blackwolf77 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa Do you think you need a raid controller for these types of builds? And it it possible to get motherboards with two m.2 slots so you could have the operating system drives in a mirrored raid?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Great question! So RAID controllers are not necessary, even contradictory for ZFS. So you should avoid using them, however if you have a RAID controller that supports IT-MODE or passthrough the HDDs you can use it without any issue. The idea with 2 NVMEs is also great. I didn't do that because of the budget and I don't think there is much value in it, but you could technically do it.
@TheKingofparis148
@TheKingofparis148 2 ай бұрын
very good information in this video, I'm glad I found you!
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! :)
@olivierheimerdinger1629
@olivierheimerdinger1629 3 жыл бұрын
So great, Thank you so much
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it 😁
@666Maeglin
@666Maeglin Жыл бұрын
Using user benchmark as a comparison between intel and amd is a risky business.. They are obviously anti AMD and their results are always skewed in favour of intel in comparisons. So if they comeout even in the comparisons in real life it means a win for AMD.
@ograin8045
@ograin8045 Жыл бұрын
And even then userbenchmark is a gauge of total system performance and there are too many variables in each individual system to draw any significant claims.
@meetfilipe_
@meetfilipe_ 3 жыл бұрын
Great Channel! Keep up the good work 👏👏
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you mate 😊
@GorkemYildirim
@GorkemYildirim 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah mate, clearly explained!
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you buddy :)
@GorkemYildirim
@GorkemYildirim 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa Thanks to PVE, I tested many Linux distros, OSX, TrueNAS & Scale, ESXi, Sophos XG, pfSense, FreeBSD. I also have Proxmox Backup Server running on the same machine.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
@@GorkemYildirim That's amazing! I bet I will also use that a lot to try out these things :)
@raul230285
@raul230285 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing..!!
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much :)
@salsh4937
@salsh4937 Жыл бұрын
the level of qulityin your content you are a complete university my friend i wanted to host some websites i am thinking of doing it in my home lab server so i am researching about and your content is just mazing
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! :)
@benjamink7311
@benjamink7311 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Christian it would be great if you do truenas virtualization on proxmox with hardware pass through
@cusciify
@cusciify 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know of you have some kind of firewall build on your home network, but a virtualized pfSense/opnSense/etc video configuration would be great, expecially of made from you becouse every video Is very clear!
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊, thats an awesome idea! First I'll make a Sophos XG video and maybe opnsense as well at some point.
@RivasBoy
@RivasBoy Жыл бұрын
Hello. Congratuations to the setup and the video. But my question is: and the graphic card to this processor?
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Be careful! I found out a problem with the NVME Kingston A2000, it's crashing randomly in Linux OS like Proxmox. It seems to have something to do with Kingstons PowerSaving settings and Kingston released a firmware update for the A2000 series to get rid of this problem! Download the firmware S5Z42109.bin and update it: www.heise.de/downloads/18/3/0/9/6/7/4/4/A2000_-_S5Z42109.zip
@MelroyvandenBerg
@MelroyvandenBerg Жыл бұрын
Also be careful when using consumer SSDs in combination with ZFS..
@VikingDudee
@VikingDudee Жыл бұрын
Man, my server consists of 2 e5-2470's from 2012, 10 years old, but it still does really well for my use case, but the top PCIE slot doesn't work with x16 length cards, it just wont post, but x8 or lower it works fine for some reason., I just need more storage.
@ewoks42
@ewoks42 2 жыл бұрын
Quiet, efficient, powerful and not too expensive 👏 How satisfied you are with it now @TheDigitalLife? Would you recommend some newer AMD now (maybe 5700G)? Could we expect early 2022 edition of it soon ? ;)
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty satisfied, still I use it in my new server rack. However, I would recommend a newer model of Ryzen, maybe with a GPU unit. I will add one recommendation in my new storage server build, so stay tuned for it :)
@satamototo
@satamototo 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to PVE :) I'm running 3 VMs @ home: 1. OPNSense with Sensei; 2. OMV 5 with URbackup; 3. WS2019 as DC and UniFi controller. All that on 4590T with 16 ram, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD for backups. The PC is running on 12V from my solar setup :)
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Cool that's a nice setup 👍
@TheRealAnthony_real
@TheRealAnthony_real 2 жыл бұрын
What was your inspiration to do with with sollar ? Can you give me some links ?
@satamototo
@satamototo 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealAnthony_real It's better than UPS this way :) For these tasks 4590T is more than enough. It's in a noname SFF case with Fujitsu D3243-S board in it. I repurposed cable from an old PSU for 12V operation and removed the internal PSU. On the negative side the board have only 2 SODIMM DDR3 slots tho...
@ElusiveProxy
@ElusiveProxy 2 жыл бұрын
I would now recommend AMD Ryzen 7 1700 as they can be bought for very cheap and are amazing CPUs , pair that with some good value RAM and some SSDs, i would recommend using Samsung 850 to 850 EVO SSDs, then a nice power efficient power supply, be sure to calculate what each individual component uses in your server then times the power draw by 1.5x then total all power and once again times by 1.5x to not only give you a little bit of head room but also to make sure all components have sufficient enough power bandwidth! :D
@OShackHennessy
@OShackHennessy Жыл бұрын
Funny you say that because I just built a server with my old pc that had a 7 1700
@averagedev7768
@averagedev7768 Жыл бұрын
I am using the i5 10400 and 32GB of ram and samsung 500gb 870 evo plus nvme in my home server. Proxmox with 3 ubuntu server vms (pi hole, mail server with iredmail, minecraft server) and 2 windows 10 pro vms (used for remote access). Its so good. I snaged it up for 140EUR and what was a deal for me is that it has integrated graphics. I have another server i5 6500 that runs only windows server 2022 for active dir and as a nas server and as well as a vpn (all home computers are windows as you see)
@mandrael
@mandrael 2 жыл бұрын
What about running proxmox on a fanless miniPC (for permanently running TrueNAS/Unraid and similar always-on services) and integrate the main PC as second server for virtualizing Windows and other operating systems for heavy load applications? Is this possible? The MiniPC would then be zfs network storage, a backup system. If this is possible could you make a howto? :)
@christiank8980
@christiank8980 2 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on Dual CPU servers for virtualization with Proxmox?
@InSaiyan-Shinobi
@InSaiyan-Shinobi Жыл бұрын
I’m wanting to do a few things a true nas jellyfin/plex and was hoping to do a opensense router all in proxmox is that possible with a 1700x ryzen cpu and 64g ram and an old 1080 ti It’s some old hardware I have laying around and wanting to try this stuff out
@titustucan9654
@titustucan9654 2 жыл бұрын
Have any of you tried to run the VE on a 12th gen Intel machine? The new hybrid CPUs have P-Cores and E-Cores and I’m not sure if Debian is able to see them. If Intel is going in this direction, then all future CPUs will have the similar characteristics. Apparently the future Intel Enterprise CPUs (Xeon) will use the LGA1800 socket which will almost identical to the LGA1700 of the Alder Lake. So I guess at one point Proxmox will have to follow the trend with the new generation CPUs. I ask a Proxmox guru like you: Can we install VE on a 12th gen motherboard and take advantage of 12th gen. full functionality?
@emilhuseynli
@emilhuseynli 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Christian, can you please recommend a mini ITX motherboard which is compatible with Ryzen 5 3600? I really liked your setup in general, but for me having a smaller case like Fractal Design Node 304 is better option.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a specific one, but I'd look at some A320, maybe from AsRock or similar.
@jayzn1931
@jayzn1931 Жыл бұрын
What is your power draw with this system in idle and load?
@maxpayne8708
@maxpayne8708 Жыл бұрын
Can you please post an in-depth video where the virtual machines are deployed? I am new to this stuff. Also, if I just want a dedicated server for docker containers, do you recommend proxmox or simple os with say ssh? Thanks.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
About creating VMs probably not, maybe some more advanced stuff about Proxmox. As for the containers, I would deploy a Linux machine and install Docker on it, that’s how I’m doing it ;)
@10mchr
@10mchr 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Christian, A+ for the explanations on every topics:) I have a question about proxmox ha (3 servers) and kubernetis ha (closter), do you need both? Ore can I get away with Kubernetis closter alone on 3 servers?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many possible setups for Kubernetes. I'm planning an update video on my homeserver soon where I'll use TrueNAS Scale for Kubernetes. And I probably will discuss also the installation on VMs or bare metal. Hope this will help you out. (btw, it's planned for next year)
@cgarafulic
@cgarafulic Жыл бұрын
Hello Christian, I have a powerful gaming desktop with 64Gb RAM and great graphics card. Can I use the same computer as a Proxmox server and client to access my VM created in Proxmox? If this is not a good option what are the minimum specs of my client pc?
@gheorghe-valer
@gheorghe-valer 3 жыл бұрын
What will be the difference in performance on the same server if you were to install a docker architecture instead of proxmox?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Usually the virtualization layer doesn't take too much performance, so it won't make a huge difference.
@lau586
@lau586 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@dillonhansen71
@dillonhansen71 2 жыл бұрын
A comment about data corruption. Its really important to know when data is corrupted because backup retention is not indefinite. If you find out too late, then its not in the backup and the data wont be recoverable. (Always scrub your data)
@sluskper
@sluskper 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I am my way to make this same build but I am checking around for motherboard now. Does ECC works correct on your motherboard? Many motherboards accept ECC-memory but they are runnit it as non-ECC.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Great question man! I was concerned about this, too. On Linux you can check whether your memory is running in ECC mode by executing the "dmidecode -t memory" command and look for the ECc multi-mode section. If it's there based on the dmi specifications, your memory is running in ECC mode. In my case it is! So it should work... hopefully 🤣👍
@seamydobbsno1
@seamydobbsno1 3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend running a 3400g if only setting up a NAS for backup and a plex server?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think that should be sufficient 👍
@festro1000
@festro1000 Жыл бұрын
I've had poor experiences with Dell workstations, between acting as dust magnets to the point cleaning it required masks or looking away when taking an air compressor to the inside, and proprietary components making replacements nigh impossible.
@johnwashifi
@johnwashifi Жыл бұрын
Hello, could you make a tutorial on how to spin-down hdd in Proxmox? thanks in advance!
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
Well, probably not sorry. I don't spin down my drives in Proxmox or TrueNAS.
@eurusforecast1472
@eurusforecast1472 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Great video! I was thinking of using Proxmox on a fanless computer. Do you think it's possible?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Totally depends on the CPU and the powerconsumption of it, I would do a good research on the model you're aiming for.
@cristivpopescu
@cristivpopescu 2 жыл бұрын
instead of fanless, perhaps try with fans running very slowly? you can connect them to the 5 volt of your PC instead of 12 volt. Even with very slow speeds, it's a night/day difference, and a slow fan can be near completely quiet
@fritzchristoph8670
@fritzchristoph8670 Жыл бұрын
Just discoverd your channel. Nice one! Sub! Btw, are you from austria? If so, greetings from vienna ;-)
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! I’m from Germany ;)
@vento3232
@vento3232 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please recommend on sata PCIE extension for additional ports? That would work with IOMMU?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
I'll soon make a video about my new storage server, there I will use a PCIE SAS controller card.
@ReeWicks
@ReeWicks Жыл бұрын
will this work a media server for a couple of people ?
@THEMithrandir09
@THEMithrandir09 Жыл бұрын
most consumer intels don't support ECC while all Ryzen CPUs do( though not all AM4 mainboards). You can run an AMD rig with no GPU, you'll just have no graphical ouput besides a tty. This is enough if SSH and webservers are all you need(proxmox).
@virtualguide4876
@virtualguide4876 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, can this setup handle multi user websites
@JosueR018
@JosueR018 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a vid on how to host different stuff In a home pc server plz
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
I'll make more videos about home lab stuff, for sure :)
@oscarchd
@oscarchd 2 жыл бұрын
in my region, it's very difficult the find this particular ram, are the KTD-PE424E model usable?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
Puh haven't tested them, but I guess if the model supports ECC, it should be pretty straightforward
@michailbmv5994
@michailbmv5994 2 жыл бұрын
My greetings from Russia, not bad decision to use AMD vendor, especially when ecc support included. Do they have something like Intel Xeon processors? Right now Xeon processors so cheap but mainboard for home environment not support ecc
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! AMD has their Threadripper series which is a workstation CPU, and also their Epyc series which are their server CPUs
@siksniper1996
@siksniper1996 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any downside to running truenas inside a virtual machine than directly on the hardware?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see much downsides when you do it right, but there are some things to consider. I'll make a separate video on that!
@Primoz.r
@Primoz.r 2 жыл бұрын
A redundant hard drive is not something specific to ZFS, it's just RAID... ZFS brings a _TON_ of other useful features, that are not dependant on RAID arrays (as in they come through the file system, not the hardware used. Also, RAID5 and RAID6 in btrfs is still unstable and is not to be used unless for testing pruposes (or if there is an easily accessible backup of the data stored on the array available). Also, the (supposed, I run it and will not run non-ECC RAM with ZFS just to be safe)) benefit of ECC with ZFS arrays is not connected with software RAID arrays, but to the fact that ZFS stores checksums in RAM. Running a scrub with corrupted RAM could cause a 'scrub of death', destroying the data in the array. But apparently this is the same for most filesystems as well.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
That's for sharing your insights!
@MelroyvandenBerg
@MelroyvandenBerg Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Look out with ZFS on normal consumer grated SSDs. Your SSDs will die very fast. I use Mdraid for my Proxmox OS installation (not running the actual VMs on). This wasn't very straightforward installation. But I'm very happy with my current setup using software raid and not using ZFS. Also good to tell ZFS and btfs are two different things.
@ripper5941
@ripper5941 Жыл бұрын
@@MelroyvandenBerg do u use btrfs in your nas or proxmox?
@andrescalapt_
@andrescalapt_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I'm building my server and searching for the motherboard I came to this video! And you talk about almost everything that I've already look for, awesome!!! I have a question, is more, your opinion: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G or AMD Ryzen 5 5600X? Eh eh I can't decide!!! Lol PS: I have already the motherboard that you used here is migrating from an older project lol Cheers mate
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! I guess for a homeserver I would go with the 5600G because you can save the money for a GPU (it has a built-in one), the 5600X not, and for a homeserver, if you're not running any CPU intensive workloads, a higher clockspeed won't make a huge difference in a virtual machine scenario.
@LampJustin
@LampJustin 2 жыл бұрын
True I'd also get the 5600G as it is more power efficient as you don't need an extra GPU and possibly do GPU transcoding on the iGPU if they finally got it working well with VAAPI or AMF. I myself did a mITX build with a R1600 years ago. It's still running great but since I need my dual 10G nic, I am running it headless, which is just terrifying to do updates or reboot in general! But even if I didn't have a PCIe card I probably would not put in a GPU since I don't wanna pay the electricity cost for a GPU I basically don't use... The GT710 consumes more than one would expect
@GordonBlake83
@GordonBlake83 2 жыл бұрын
Does ASRock motherboard boot without graphics card (if Ryzen doesn’t have integrated one) or do I have to have something in order to boot? I’m talking after installing ProxMox
@dirkpauwels1586
@dirkpauwels1586 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm new to the proxmox server scene and lovin it. I really enjoy your content. I have a small question. When you install proxmox on let's say a 500gb boot disk, it takes the entire disk. Is there a possibilty to use the non-used space to store for instance iso's and how do I do that? Can't seem to find information about it. Thx. Grtz Dirk from Belgium (Europe)
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
Hey thank you! :) you need to partition the disk with a tool like fdisk or gdisk and then you can use each partition. However Proxmox does have a partitioning to use the boot disk as local-lvm as well.
@dirkpauwels1586
@dirkpauwels1586 Жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa thx for the fast response. I'll look into to it. Keep those video's coping. Grtz dirk
@dirkpauwels1586
@dirkpauwels1586 Жыл бұрын
Coming
@lesfilanto
@lesfilanto Жыл бұрын
Personally I'm looking to have an old dell r320 as a Sophos firewall and a file server, maybe a media server also but the last one is not a priority
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
Cool!
@77seiichi
@77seiichi 3 жыл бұрын
Do you do video's on Synology products and/or packaged....MailPlus Server. You have the best DNS Video re setting up your own in house mail exchange, thank you so much.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, I would love to do videos on Synology, maybe they'll send me one in the future :D
@matthias2447
@matthias2447 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a (much faster) alternative to the RPI4 as a home server, that is energy efficient and quiet at the same time for a small budget?
@datawolk
@datawolk 3 жыл бұрын
How about an odroid sbc or an Intel NUC. Also I think AMD has their first sort of NUC
@martinb.831
@martinb.831 3 жыл бұрын
The new AMD NUC style systems like the Asus PB50 and PN50 are great for the price and very robust platforms for a home server if you are looking for something new. Check out the Project TinyMiniMicro from ServertheHome for a bunch of reviews on dozens of small form factor computers many of which are purchased used when companies upgrade.
@michaelbouckley4455
@michaelbouckley4455 2 жыл бұрын
Rizen R5-3550 mini pc supports NVMe & SSD. Upto 32Gb DDR4 from $345 without memory or disk. Maybe Qonzo brand. I’m building one, chose because it runs off 12v low power (laptop chip vega graphics) and my power is solar & battery. For Proxmox VM’s, storage and backups. Will probably run a miner on its base deb linux too.
@shetuamin
@shetuamin 2 жыл бұрын
How do you manage this server? Do you have any video about pikvm?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
There will be some update videos about Proxmox and my Homelab soon :) Haven't used pikvm before, but seems pretty interesting! Thanks for sharing!
@supershad9855
@supershad9855 3 жыл бұрын
AMD CPUs are also more power efficient, especially if u look at the 11th gen furnace. you might see an Intel CPU at 65W and an AMD one at 65W and think they consume the same power, but that's not true, as intel's TDP is calculated at base clocks, while AMD's one at their boost, so there is a significant power consumption difference. However with precision boost enabled (as well as Intel's similar), it will also push further than the rated TDP for as much as it can, but that's beside the point.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, on the paper they look pretty similar but it seems there are even more arguments for AMD nowadays! Thanks for sharing your experience, bro 😍
@datawolk
@datawolk 3 жыл бұрын
They should also mention idle power consumption. Even desktops are most of their lifetime in "idle" mode.
@LampJustin
@LampJustin 2 жыл бұрын
@@datawolk true and that's where Intel shines again! I've got AMD systems myself but those 10th gen Intel are pretty damn power efficient when idleing and on light loads.
@DigitEgal
@DigitEgal 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa Thats true, my desktop PC´s consumption is logged. With a Ryzen 7 2700X + MSI GTX1700 Gaming X it barely touches 200W. Normal use is around ~100 to 150W. Also you have to consider that i am using a lot of external stuff and 5 Disks connected. Furthermore i disabled C-States and CPU Parking wich would get the consumed power even more down.
@JohnRPeck
@JohnRPeck Жыл бұрын
This was a great video. However, I need to repurpose an old Dell XPS 8700 PC. It has an I7-4790 with 4 cores and 8 threads It can take up to 32 GB of non-ECC Ram I want to use it to store family pictures and videos and as a plex server... Will it cut the mustard, or should I pull the plug on it? Since I am also replacing my PC, my budget is limited
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Well from power efficient standpoint you might look at a newer refurbished model something 7th gen onwards
@DumbSkippy
@DumbSkippy Жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa 6 and 7 series use almost the same amount of power...
@williamgollatz1911
@williamgollatz1911 2 жыл бұрын
Are there still issues with AMD motherboard LAN controllers from Realtek having issues with the likes of VMWare?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't noticed them, in my base all worked out of the box.
@patrikgrguric535
@patrikgrguric535 Жыл бұрын
Hey, this is a bit older video, but did you have any issues with the Realtek RTL8111H network card that's on that board? Most AMD motherboards have that and I just wanna be sure it's compatible as I know Proxmox is a bit picky with network cards.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
No it works without any issues :)
@patrikgrguric535
@patrikgrguric535 Жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa Thanks a lot. Did you use the official installer iso?
@arnomijs3060
@arnomijs3060 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea what the average power consumption is for you? Idle and under load? Thanks!
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
I’ve done a full video about that and there will be some updates as well soon
@arnomijs3060
@arnomijs3060 Жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa Oh sorry, must have missed it, Awesome videos, keep it up !
@nbctcp3450
@nbctcp3450 2 жыл бұрын
what microphone u use? ur voice very clear n loud
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
thanks mate! I guess there I used the elgato wave 1, but now I switched to Shure SM7B
@zxspectum
@zxspectum 2 жыл бұрын
Hi looking at your KIT site, the RAM is different from you video and is it ECC compatible, doesnt appear to be?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I've updated the page because I replaced the memory, but I forgot to update the ECC memory modules that I'm using in my storage server now. Added them!
@zxspectum
@zxspectum 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa ok also you have two kits one for this promox build the other is a storage server build. Is there a video for that and why two different builds? What are the differences use cases for.
@mikeheck4998
@mikeheck4998 2 жыл бұрын
I need a server Equipment for 19 Zoll. Can i bild this i a 19 Zoll 4HE?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
I'm planning another home server video next year, hopefully for 19" rack :D But yeah, you can basically put anything in a 19" case, that's probably what I also will do.
@johnvincentgonzales639
@johnvincentgonzales639 2 жыл бұрын
is 16gb flash drive is enough for rufus installer?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely
@Foba_Bett
@Foba_Bett 2 жыл бұрын
Could i use this kind of server build to stream a looped video with OBS on youtube to create a 24/7 stream?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea :D Not done this before
@Foba_Bett
@Foba_Bett 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa Thanks for responding anyway - i'll definitely use poxmox tho! :)
@SB-qm5wg
@SB-qm5wg Жыл бұрын
The ECC dram can cost as much as the whole rig by itself.
@jeytis72
@jeytis72 3 жыл бұрын
Just one NVMe PCIe SSD 500G, 500 GB as a storage to run VMs on it. No raidz or something? Thanks
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
It's just for my VMs, I have some HDDs connected to my virtual TrueNAS for filestorage.
@jeytis72
@jeytis72 3 жыл бұрын
​@@christianlempa Yes, I think that it makes sense for a home server. I'll probably switch to a fast SSD myself too since my VMS lie on a zfs pool (mirror) consisting of two HDDS now, and everything is way too slow. PS: I saw that in order to write in your discord community members have to give their own phone numbers to verify their identities. Why? Thanks
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately there are too many scammers on Discord that I needed to raise the verification level
@okanerdem
@okanerdem 2 жыл бұрын
Can we do software raid on esxi also ? Or it's possible only for proxmox?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, as I'm not using ESXi, but I think that's not their main focus, Proxmox or TrueNAS would be better for that.
@okanerdem
@okanerdem 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa thanks for the information
@user-iw8cq4fv4q
@user-iw8cq4fv4q 2 жыл бұрын
some of the parts are no longer available :( any alternatives for the existing list that you recommend?
@user-iw8cq4fv4q
@user-iw8cq4fv4q 2 жыл бұрын
there's no way to find the case anymore, any good alternatives?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
Hm strange, as in my country the case is still available on Kit.co. You might check out some cases from Fractal Design, they're also pretty good.
@user-iw8cq4fv4q
@user-iw8cq4fv4q 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa was thinking about Be Quiet 500DX, what are your thoughts?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-iw8cq4fv4q haven't used it, but usually BeQuiet always stands for goof quality. So that would work well I guess.
@wirikidor
@wirikidor 4 ай бұрын
I know this video is a few years old, but I wish you had kept the kit links for it instead of replacing it with your rack space one.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 4 ай бұрын
Some of them aren't up 2 date, or sold out, that's why I had to remove them :(
@gametroeb
@gametroeb Жыл бұрын
Have you here ziggo? Greets of netherlands
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
ziggo? What’s that?
@gametroeb
@gametroeb Жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa that is an Ethernet provider in the Netherlands and the use 192.168.178 subbnet default
@DoozyBytes
@DoozyBytes Жыл бұрын
Zfs by design does not require ecc
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
Didn’t say that
@newpain01
@newpain01 Жыл бұрын
What's your power consumption with this hardware?
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
I recently made a video about all devices and power consumption
@newpain01
@newpain01 Жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa Cool, will check it out. Thanks
@bertnijhof5413
@bertnijhof5413 2 жыл бұрын
The story about ECC was very confusing. If you run non-ecc memory any file system might be destroyed by intermittent errors. Also ext4 and ntfs use free memory to store disk records, disk administration and log entries. If they are corrupted in the memory and written back to disk, the results might be catastrophic. Intermittent memory errors will destroy any file system. If you want to avoid the minimal chance of intermittent memory errors, use ECC memory for any file system. Of course, if you use 64GB of memory, the chance on memory errors will be 4 times higher than with 16GB of memory. I have confidence in my non-ECC memory and for more than 4 years I use ZFS without any issue on desktop with 16GB DDR4 (3000MHz); on laptop with 8GB DDR3 (1333MHz) and on my Pentium 4 backup-server with 1.5GB DDR (400MHz). The one time I had memory issues with one of the four 512MB sticks, the Pentium 4 crashed during start-up, when passing the 1GB boundary :) Which show that it is wise to run a memory test after changing memory or in case of doubt.
@nathanredblur
@nathanredblur Жыл бұрын
I want my own home server but I have energy consuming concerns because it’s going to be turned on 24 hours.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
There will be more content around this topic in the future! So stay tuned ;)
@viralbox5603
@viralbox5603 2 жыл бұрын
there are enough cheap and very fast cpu with high threadcount and gpu by AMD! (look for a "g" at the end of the amd cpu names)
@markkoops2611
@markkoops2611 2 жыл бұрын
AMD has APU versions...
@KentsTechWorld
@KentsTechWorld 3 жыл бұрын
those zooms lol
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? XD
@KentsTechWorld
@KentsTechWorld 3 жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa the face zooms ;)
@maxime_vhw
@maxime_vhw 2 жыл бұрын
For zfs i believe they recommend 1gb of ram per gb of storage.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's somewhat like that, I think on TrueNAS they have a recommendation for that.
@dizwell
@dizwell 2 жыл бұрын
No. That recommendation is for times when you're going to do compression and de-dupe. If you aren't doing those things, then that recommendation is simply untrue and out by a huge amount. Source: I've got 16TB of ZFS storage in effectively a raid1+0 with 8GB RAM in an HP Gen 8 microserver ...meaning I've been running that way without incident since about 2016. Before that, I had 16TB of storage and 8GB RAM in an HP N40L Gen 7 microserver, purchased in 2012. I store a large collection of classical music FLAC files, so compression is never required and neither is de-duplication. Now, I'm reading that zpool a lot, and not writing to it much. And I'm definitely not running VMs on that server. But 8GB has done fine for over a decade. Short version: ZFS does *not* intrinsically have huge RAM requirements.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
@@dizwell Thanks for your insight! I also have made my experience over the last months and can say it does not require the memory to function. BUT, if you frequently transfer large files, it helps a lot to put more memory into the system for caching. So I don't regret putting a bit more than I would need.
@marcello4258
@marcello4258 2 жыл бұрын
also christian ECC haette es dann doch bitte schoen schon sein sollen ;)
@betadyne9559
@betadyne9559 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video, however there's one caveat : never use a normal SSD for your ZFS volumes, even for caching ! ZFS is very intensive on read and write, and it will kill your non-pro drives very rapidly. Apart from that, I built my new homelab about two months ago and just found out your video, I am glad I did it right because my setup is quite similar to yours !
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! I don’t know if that’s really true anymore, with modern SSDs the lifetime should be much different that professional SSDs, I know there are a few downsides doing it, but I guess a mixture of running HDDs for storage and backups and SSDs for vm storage seems the best option for me :)
@betadyne9559
@betadyne9559 Жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa I believe it is especially true for modern SSD's. Most of them are QLCs while enterprise-grade SSDs are still using SLCs. Nevertheless, that's what I read several times while fiddling with TureNAS and Proxmox regarding ZFS : don't use entry-levels SSDs.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa Жыл бұрын
@@betadyne9559 I read it as well, but this doesn't necessarily have something to do with the lifetime, but with the missing power loss protection. In a corporate environment, sure, this might be a big problem. But on consumer side, it's the same as with ECC. It's recommended, but it also works without, maybe not so stable, perhaps not with such a huge lifetime.
@betadyne9559
@betadyne9559 Жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa Dunno, I might give it a try and see if performance increase are worth the risk !
@Steve25g
@Steve25g Жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa TLC, and QLC drives suck. I always try to get slc or mlc. Had a root partition on an ssd going bad after 3 years normal use...
@vashthestampede3459
@vashthestampede3459 3 жыл бұрын
Dang, those cases are expensive. There are cheaper cases you can get
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 3 жыл бұрын
There are always cheaper cases out there, but are they better? I'm open for suggestions 😁
@JokeryEU
@JokeryEU Жыл бұрын
they arent loud because they are professional ... they are loud because they are cheap
@Rundik
@Rundik 2 жыл бұрын
700 eur ain't cheap
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
For a server it is ;)
@jayt-ph1xd
@jayt-ph1xd Жыл бұрын
Stop using userbenchmark site.
@plaguedoct0r
@plaguedoct0r 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, ZFS isn't worth it for home systems. It requires INSANE amounts of resources and gives back very little. Amahi, on the other hand, can run on a single 1ghz thread with 1gb of ram and do pretty much the same thing. And as long as you make backups or use raid you should be fine for data redundancy.
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I totally disagree. It's very useful for NAS systems, Backups, Performance, Compression... can't believe that you're saying this 😮
@itstech60
@itstech60 Ай бұрын
FYI: It's called a "Motherboard", not a "Mainboard." Great video otherwise though!
@jj-icejoe6642
@jj-icejoe6642 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap ? 😂😂🤣🤣🤣. You can buy enterprise server way more powerful bi Xeon 32 core and 32 ecc GB for 200$
@christianlempa
@christianlempa 2 жыл бұрын
If you can afford the electricity bill, sure, go for it ;)
@jj-icejoe6642
@jj-icejoe6642 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianlempa 140W with 2x E5-2650L a p2000 and 8 X 3.5 HDD one ssd and one nvme not so bad
@-blackcat-4749
@-blackcat-4749 2 жыл бұрын
The 📅 presented stable illustration. As things usually are
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