Homemade belt sander after 5 years -- update

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MatthiasWandel

MatthiasWandel

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I built this belt sander 5 years ago, talking about minor tweaks I have made to it in that time, and checking how it's doing.
More about the belt sander: woodgears.ca/belt_sander
Plans for this belt sander: woodgears.ca/belt_sander/plans

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@tandemcart1234
@tandemcart1234 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that this video was not titled something click batey like "you won't believe what the inside of this 5 year old, homemade belt sander looks like"
@ro_yo_mi
@ro_yo_mi 2 жыл бұрын
Getting this years-later reviews of your tools is super interesting. Both the what's wrong with them and what's worked well. Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
@Strong-man
@Strong-man 2 жыл бұрын
I think these updates are important so folks know about maintenance issues. I wish there were more like this from tool manufacturers that are as brutally honest as yours.
@SiTengoTiempo
@SiTengoTiempo 2 жыл бұрын
Tool manufacrurers will never do this because they don’t want you to fix things. They want you to buy a new one.
@thatcrazyguy1971
@thatcrazyguy1971 2 жыл бұрын
Funny this video came up, as I had to fix a little issue on mine last week. The wooden spring things (I had 2 pieces of ash, 4mm thick, can't remember what the plans call for and haven't checked) were both broken, and obviously I had no more tension on my belt. I replaced them with the same, see how it holds. Over the years I've built many jigs and machines from Matthias, and not only did it teach me many things but it brings joy every time I use them. And they're very easy to fix because I've built them in the first place. The guy is a Saint! 😁
@joshuac1364
@joshuac1364 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. It takes some serious patience and time investment to make these machines! I've tried and failed a few times. Little inaccuracies add up quickly.
@sstevinn
@sstevinn 2 жыл бұрын
My wooden springs broke too, but like you, have held up since being replaced (with harder wood)
@boagart
@boagart 2 жыл бұрын
Matthias really is one of the nicest, most thoughtful and interesting creators on youtube. His infectious enthusiasm brightens up my day every time a video comes out, no matter the subject.
@pjmakovinyi
@pjmakovinyi 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how you can demonstrate things in examples, like that wiggle in the aluminum pulley at 3:30 ... I always learn a lot from that! Thanks a lot.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, have used that add a shim a number of times with the setscrews... most times it is just cardboard or some paper.
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394 2 жыл бұрын
Matthias pretty much wrote the book on how to make how-to videos.
@DazzaBo
@DazzaBo 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the oldschool informative videos they used to show us in high school when they'd wheel in that oldschool TV on wheels lol.
@Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm
@Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm 2 жыл бұрын
Aluminium*
@scottrussell8465
@scottrussell8465 2 жыл бұрын
You know, if you keep talking about construction adhesive, John is going to know we all actually appreciate him.
@JohnnyBravo1977
@JohnnyBravo1977 2 жыл бұрын
John Heisz is the world wide supporter of construction adhesive
@velcroman11
@velcroman11 2 жыл бұрын
How can anyone give this video a thumbs down!? Matthias, in my opinion is one of the most professional presenters on KZfaq. The manner in which he designs his projects and the manner that he builds them is a “bench mark” for all of us to attain.
@Pablo4949
@Pablo4949 2 жыл бұрын
This kind of teardown update is pretty cool, tickles the engineer in me. Also crazy it's been that long since you made this sander.
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. But I'd click on He "changes a lightbulb"
@joshuac1364
@joshuac1364 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know.. I think I remember when the original video came out. Time flies.
@Pablo4949
@Pablo4949 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamescollier3 yeah I'm with you, I watch them all lol
@ajl9491
@ajl9491 2 жыл бұрын
What's that engineer doing in you, as does your wife know?
@louisfkoorts5590
@louisfkoorts5590 2 жыл бұрын
@@ajl9491 Hey man, you had me laughing over here! I guess it is because I tend to make similar comments like that. I struggle to express my self properly, with proper English. (Afrikaans speaking - very similar to Dutch.)
@kaistudio8229
@kaistudio8229 2 жыл бұрын
one thing that i noticed since 7 years ago that you never get old
@kamenzero89
@kamenzero89 2 жыл бұрын
Omg,i been following your KZfaq channel more than 5 year already..seeing you right now with that silver hair really making me remember all the video that you make.. really love your channel especially when you are making project just like the old time.. thanks for sharing your wisdom to us.. always looking to see your next project
@LeightonGill
@LeightonGill 2 жыл бұрын
I built this sander from your plans around 2 years ago. It's still going strong and I still love it!
@ellisc.foleyjr9778
@ellisc.foleyjr9778 2 жыл бұрын
Wow its been that long since the build? I remember that one vividly.! And once again your engineering abilities have increased mine with again great points of interest and merit. Thanks again Matthias for another great tutorial and video. and thanks for sharing. ECF.
@Curtis-Randall
@Curtis-Randall 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that video. Giving us these peeks into your shop and build really spark my imagination. You are very much an inspiration in my life
@christopherdahle9985
@christopherdahle9985 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your desire to distill the build videos down to a shorter format, but I am also grateful that you are planning to keep the originals accessible...At least, I think that's what you told Steve Ramsey a few weeks ago. I imagine that may be difficult to do in the future, but as I slowly...very slowly...piece together the band saw, I really appreciate having the longer videos available. Mentally, I am a slow processor and the slower pace of your earlier videos makes it much easier to understand both the procedures and the engineering design that goes into your machines. Thank you for the years of knowledge you have contributed to the world through your videos.
@oeur1
@oeur1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. I’ve wanted a new belt sander for a long time now but haven’t been able to aford it. I bought your plans for this now and just finished making it. Lovely project and it works really great! I managed to sell my old and smaller sander for almost as much as i paid for the material to make this one.
@CaliberFiftyVideos
@CaliberFiftyVideos 2 жыл бұрын
This update comes right when I am planning my own version of such a tiltable belt sander, inspired by you initially, 5 years ago..how time flies!
@_P0tat07_
@_P0tat07_ 2 жыл бұрын
Love the update videos. Really interesting to see where improvements can be made. Thanks Matthias
@runristaren2
@runristaren2 2 жыл бұрын
Going back and reviewing builds is often overlooked you are doing great 👍
@aserta
@aserta 2 жыл бұрын
1:11 i've used inner tube laid in a diagonal pattern and glued with 3M spray on glue. No need for fancy inner tubes. I think mine's 3 years old at this point, hasn't delaminated so far. A friend of mine who copied my inner tube thing didn't even bother with glue, he used one those paper thumb tacks with 4 legs on both ends of the strip to keep it on the roller, afaic, it's still working.
@mfsolutions
@mfsolutions 2 жыл бұрын
Great video... really like how evenly distributed the dust was in your belt sander dust collector... minimizes maintenance.
@musamor75
@musamor75 2 жыл бұрын
You are something of a genius my friend. I take my hat off to you. Making wooden parts that last instead of metal is a technical challenge. Greetings from France.
@samTollefson
@samTollefson 2 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant man! I have learned so much from you over the years! Thank You!
@MoZz..
@MoZz.. 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Matthias, thanks for an update. Hope you and your family is well
@WarLord18
@WarLord18 2 жыл бұрын
Has it really been 5 years+ I've been watching you, dam
@briannelson605
@briannelson605 2 жыл бұрын
Wow its held up remarkably well over the years. Nice build
@dontworryboutitdude
@dontworryboutitdude 2 жыл бұрын
The update was nice. Thanks Matthais!
@woodshopnerdery
@woodshopnerdery 2 жыл бұрын
Much respect for the fact that you Matthias can self audit his own work, not always a KZfaqr's forte. I have the Shopsmith 6 inch belt sander which I really like and use nearly as much as any other tool. But I am jealous of the sideways? type sanders with long horizontal tables like the one in this video. Seems very useful.
@alexguir903
@alexguir903 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was nice to see the update, thank you for it.
@kalebstattmiller8301
@kalebstattmiller8301 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Matthias. Great update.
@XionSteel
@XionSteel 2 жыл бұрын
nice update on a home made tool and how it holds up over time.
@JohnnyBravo1977
@JohnnyBravo1977 2 жыл бұрын
Good God Matt, I have been following your videos since almost the begging and I'll be damned if I'll ever quit!
@TrainFlood
@TrainFlood 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe 5 years have already passed!
@SiTengoTiempo
@SiTengoTiempo 2 жыл бұрын
This was interesting to see how things hold up over time. I do this myself because much is learned in the retrospective.
@esotericsean
@esotericsean 2 жыл бұрын
I have all your plans and hope to be able to build most of them one day when I have my own home. This sander will likely be one of the first I make.
@gianfrancomarzola5615
@gianfrancomarzola5615 2 жыл бұрын
I j ust saw your video and am impressed on your work in regards to your work on the saw.
@tiagosouza454
@tiagosouza454 2 жыл бұрын
It's a very good project, I bought it and it's working fine, I've made some adjustments to the tension mechanism, but the rest is the same, and I've been sanding wood and aluminum on it and it's working fine.
@michaelkrell
@michaelkrell 2 жыл бұрын
Taper lock pulleys are what I have seen used in industrial applications. sounds like what you are describing.
@msmith3537
@msmith3537 2 жыл бұрын
Great update!
@captainahab5650
@captainahab5650 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update! I find I often wonder about the machines in your videos. I can see them working... but wonder what wear and tear does occur.
@woodsprout
@woodsprout 2 жыл бұрын
Nice update!
@milesparris4045
@milesparris4045 2 жыл бұрын
Several times I have put a dab of blue Loctite on a pulley shaft as a temporary fix for it being slightly loose, and it has worked surprisingly well. It even locks moisture out to keep the parts from rusting together (These tend to be in a damp environment). The pulley isn't significantly harder to remove.
@EvanDunville
@EvanDunville 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like it did really well for the use it has had.
@nicholasgeorge7825
@nicholasgeorge7825 3 ай бұрын
You can patch the caulk with similar caulk mixed w baking flour. In fact flour makes a decent thickened for lots of glues.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting, Matthias! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@allluckyseven
@allluckyseven 2 жыл бұрын
It's good to know that it lasts for quite a while, despite being made out of wood. Nice to know that you made some changes too, and what and why was changed. Is there any shop equipment that you're planning on replacing, building, fixing..?
@bobd.
@bobd. 2 жыл бұрын
This is really a nice size horizontal belt sander. I don't know why no one makes one in a 6x48 size. I think they would be very popular with the WWing crowd. Thanks for updating us on how this sander of yours has held up over time. Like all the power tools you have built for your shop it is well engineered. On the belt tension could you add a third tensioning pulley that rides the outside of the belt using an adjustable spring to apply pressure.
@submarine.7seas
@submarine.7seas 2 жыл бұрын
I have had really good success using pop cans as shim stock.
@omorfaruk7343
@omorfaruk7343 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos ❤️
@Korgon2013
@Korgon2013 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to watch this!!!!!
@Samtagri
@Samtagri 2 жыл бұрын
It’s already 5 years!! Holy crap time is running fast.
@GPDIY
@GPDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thanks for sharing!
@MiscMitz
@MiscMitz 2 жыл бұрын
Good update. Thank you
@creativeobsin
@creativeobsin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised it holds up so well, since you put so much thought and effort into making your machines. Though the wooden bearings impressed me, do you oil them?
@woodworkingprocess
@woodworkingprocess 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@Captainwonderlad
@Captainwonderlad 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the update
@MattOGormanSmith
@MattOGormanSmith 2 жыл бұрын
I started my own design, which was going to be an oscillating sander using typewriter & dot matrix platens as the rollers, but I started stealing a little bit of your design here, a little bit there so what I ended up with is an almost exact mirror image of yours. One tiny thing I think I improved is a pair of fence brackets that are the same thickness as the belt guard so it sits nicely on that side without needing a stand
@BradKaboord
@BradKaboord 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@leeboleebo6228
@leeboleebo6228 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched it it's held up well for a home made wooden one
@garyantonyo
@garyantonyo 2 жыл бұрын
1:04 "Back in 2006" + 5 year update scared me. I thought it was 2011 again. It's too early in the morning for this.
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 2 жыл бұрын
oops, can't fix that now.
@JakeSeeber
@JakeSeeber 2 жыл бұрын
tripped me too lol
@mlindholm
@mlindholm 2 жыл бұрын
Was clearly a minor slip of the tongue, time flies, but I not THAT fast!
@yoderd2080
@yoderd2080 2 жыл бұрын
Was trying to figure out the the math on that one😂
@spgoo1
@spgoo1 2 жыл бұрын
Matthias, I've found silicone self adhesive tape works well as a grip surface for drive roller. Been 3 years on my belt sander
@joethompson11
@joethompson11 2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! Love the update, can you please do one for some other tools? Like the cycle vacuum, the box jointer, maybe even older band saws? So interesting! Also can't wait for the cut down video of the sander, I can't believe it's been 5 years since I watched you do that! Time flies
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 2 жыл бұрын
the thing is, there isn’t much to say. I just use them.
@joethompson11
@joethompson11 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthiaswandel fair enough :)
@jacilynns6330
@jacilynns6330 2 жыл бұрын
On machines shafts the pulleys usually fit quite tightly. Cold rolled steel off the self not so much.
@LegendSpecialist
@LegendSpecialist 2 жыл бұрын
Great video👌
@MightyJustas
@MightyJustas 2 жыл бұрын
Thats one damn good sander
@anikaamma8366
@anikaamma8366 2 жыл бұрын
That's a nice one
@Dadmadeit
@Dadmadeit 2 жыл бұрын
Held up well for a home made wooden one.
@brighamruud5090
@brighamruud5090 2 жыл бұрын
I was just rewatching the belt sander build when this showed up!
@davebashford3753
@davebashford3753 2 жыл бұрын
The power of the "algorithm"! It's weird how it feels like you have free will to choose what you watch, isn't it?
@brighamruud5090
@brighamruud5090 2 жыл бұрын
@@davebashford3753 indeed good sir
@richard2mitchell
@richard2mitchell 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap 5 years? I remember when you made it.
@Noughtta
@Noughtta 2 жыл бұрын
You could update me on your local weather and I would still watch it 😂
@mr.picklesworth
@mr.picklesworth 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do an update on your green dust collector the one with the pales. How well is it working after all this time? How does it compare to a cheap small store bought one?
@jeffstanley4593
@jeffstanley4593 2 жыл бұрын
I love updates. What happened to the collaboration between you and John so long ago?
@deathsmileyinc
@deathsmileyinc 2 жыл бұрын
two set screws to push it into the corner of a hole made me smirk
@cbalan777
@cbalan777 2 жыл бұрын
1:04 Did you build a wooden time machine? Very nice video. I'm always curious to see these machines again and how they hold up.
@jenkinssthomson8879
@jenkinssthomson8879 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks MW
@mirockswoodshop
@mirockswoodshop 2 жыл бұрын
Wooden bearing for 5 years!? I am shocked
@grantofat6438
@grantofat6438 Жыл бұрын
He hardly uses it. He says he goes through one belt a year, which is nothing.
@workonitm8
@workonitm8 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@rodfrey
@rodfrey 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea to shim loose pulleys. One might consider putting two shims in, each at 30 degrees off of the centreline. Then the pulley would be fully constrained with 3 points of contact and probably would never wiggle loose again.
@Brian18741
@Brian18741 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I bought the plans for this a couple of years ago, still haven't gotten around to building it! 🙈
@lutheduck
@lutheduck 2 жыл бұрын
I see those plan purchases as a way to support creator and say "thank you" for all the joy their work brings - I end up not using them also :D
@Brian18741
@Brian18741 2 жыл бұрын
@@lutheduck for sure 👍
@haenselundgretel654
@haenselundgretel654 2 жыл бұрын
Damn good one!
@derwissenskiosk8041
@derwissenskiosk8041 2 жыл бұрын
Man the time runs like a train, i watched that video 5 years ago when it came out... Now its 2021 O_o
@IdRatherBeMaking
@IdRatherBeMaking 2 жыл бұрын
Tip! I started using aluminum tape of various thincnesses (Thick HVAC and dollar store) as 'adhesive backed' shims on shafts. I layer it without overlapping the joints to keep the shaft profile round by cutting each layer at the flat. If you clean the shaft with alcohol, the tape sticks like crazy.
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 2 жыл бұрын
Have had bad experience with tape. The glue never hardens, and constant pressure makes it ooze out.
@josephbohme7917
@josephbohme7917 2 жыл бұрын
Pulleys w loose belt should have a simple spring tensioner which you can adjust for + - guided by a side wood cylinder justb taller than bellt which can turn easily.
@16ats
@16ats 2 жыл бұрын
It's been 5 years already? Feels like only yesterday
@cbalan777
@cbalan777 2 жыл бұрын
You'll be saying the same thing about this video in five years. (2026) Time flies. See you then! :P
@jtaulen
@jtaulen 2 жыл бұрын
And he even misspoke and said 2006 instead of 2016 @ 1:05 :P
@dpmeyer4867
@dpmeyer4867 2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@johnvernon27
@johnvernon27 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been telling myself I’m going to make one of these for five years now
@KatonBoy
@KatonBoy 2 жыл бұрын
its been five years already? good god
@prototype3a
@prototype3a 2 жыл бұрын
I've used those taper-lock poly-V belt pulleys on big industrial machines ( ~50hp ) and you got me wondering if anyone makes anything similar but smaller for regular AX or BX series v-belts.
@cooperised
@cooperised 2 жыл бұрын
I used on on my milling machine (~3hp) and the answer is yes! They're also very reasonably priced. I paid about £10 here in the UK for a double V pulley and taper hub for a 28mm shaft.
@Alexander470815
@Alexander470815 2 жыл бұрын
How much is a pulley with a taperlock bushing at your place? Here in Germany you can get them for around 5€ for a bushing or a small pulley. They will even grip just a straight shaft without a key with great force.
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 2 жыл бұрын
None available locally.
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder of threadlocker would work instead of shim?
@mechminded2207
@mechminded2207 2 жыл бұрын
Really thought Matthias was breaking into a spoken word version of Starship's jukebox belter... "I built this [city on rock and roll]".
@davidwostrel
@davidwostrel 2 жыл бұрын
5 years!?! Wow where does the time go?
@Lively_1185
@Lively_1185 2 жыл бұрын
In your pulley video demonstration at 3:30, didn't that exact same thing happen to the Sears bandsaw repair fail video? It looks identical to the issue that occurred.
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 2 жыл бұрын
yes, same issue.
@Daninashed
@Daninashed 2 жыл бұрын
I wish every tool manufacturer issued updates on things they could have done better!
@miahardianhardian4359
@miahardianhardian4359 2 жыл бұрын
saya dari Indonesia sangat senang sekali melihat video2 anda saya sudah melihat lama sekali dari anda masih badannya kurus(maaaf🙏) kalau kurang sopan.yang saya memimpikan punya alat pantorouter walau sekarang masih belum punya.Semoga anda tambah sukses dan tetap diberikan kesehatan dan terus berkarya dan bermanfaat untuk orang lain.
@THX..1138
@THX..1138 2 жыл бұрын
The pulleys are Zinc not aluminum...Anyhow i love the idea of shimming them.
@DIYdiacsnFarmstead
@DIYdiacsnFarmstead 2 жыл бұрын
5 Years already? How dare you time!
@hommyman8157
@hommyman8157 2 жыл бұрын
Красавчик MATT
@bc1014
@bc1014 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mathias, could you please include the skill level required to make the belt sander (from your plans)? Too difficult for someone with very basic carpentry skills? Thank you
@DullPoints
@DullPoints 2 жыл бұрын
Question for anyone out there: If you had to rank Mathias' sanding machines in build complexity, which one is the easiest? Currently leaning towards the strip sander.
@mr_oskel6225
@mr_oskel6225 2 жыл бұрын
I'm making this sander right now. I had a bit of a panic in the start because it seemed so hard to build. But now that i'm getting close to the finish and i look back, it really isn't that hard to make. The only part where it's important to be really acurate is with the rollers and the alignement of them in the construction. Also use propper axial steel for the axels. I had to remake mine because they weren't round enough.
@DullPoints
@DullPoints 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr_oskel6225 That's really encouraging, thank you!
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