SSL Channel Strip Shoot Out - Solid State Logic vs Waves vs Universal Audio

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@freakybusiness 3 жыл бұрын

Really like your laid back style. Refreshingly honest and no time wasted. Great job thanks! Subscribed.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@easternrecordingstudio4688 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your great review time for us here. The best comparison to see and find the correct plugins. I like the Native one, and in money value i would go with wave in a good discount sales now. Thanks again for your great revisions

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

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@JohnSk82 4 жыл бұрын

Had a failure with my RME F800 the other day and i bought the SSL 2+ till i get back the unit from service and i've installed the Native Plugins and i'm blown away big time.They've done an excellent job ...its their products after all .Great video mate

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@marc_leblanc 4 жыл бұрын

Great comparison. I've recently tried the CLA Mix Hub and I prefer it as it has added features that makes it even better.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Cool! Thanks for watching!

@tullygun 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this fantastic video. I came across this when thinking about whether I should buy the SSL native plugin. I have the UA and Waves SSL. As a mixer, you can't just think about your own opionion you also have to cater for the artist and the listener depending on the genre. A lot of comments seem to be triggered by brand preference. I think they all sound good in their own way. Personally, I like warmth and I feel the SSL native gives this mix warmth. And for this genre of music its spot on. Thanks again 👍🏾

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

@F_J_2014 4 жыл бұрын

Great comparison. For me the SSL is Smooth (as you said). But I was feeling it also added glue to the mix overall, everything seemed to sit better together with the SSL Native. Currently on a 6 month demo of all SSL Native plugins, which I got free with the purchase of my SSL 2. I love the Channel Strip, Vocal Strip, Drum Strip, Bus Comp and Flex Verb, I can see myself having to spend some money to own them in the near future.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I love the SSL Native plugins myself.

@dairebarefoot6763 3 жыл бұрын

Same man. I got the SSL 2 as well and it is amazing compared to my old interface. I’ve replaced my logic channel strip w the ssl stuff and it sounds a lot fuller.

@russangel 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the CLA Mixhub as I was on the fence so long I gave up and went for it.Good video again Dave I enjoyed it.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@papa.alfredo 3 жыл бұрын

I felt the UAD warmer and fuller but SSL I think is the very best! Thanks a lot for your video and effort, greetings from Germany

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

@GeileMuckeRecords 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, very helpful to evaluate those channel strips 👍

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@AzimApurbo 4 жыл бұрын

Gave a like for the in-depth effort from your end - appreciated

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

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@JakeLewisReal 3 жыл бұрын

I can hear the top of the kick more with the UAD version which helps my ears find it, the SSL Native buries the kick and rounds off the top end, feel like you could push the high shelf even further with the Native version. The Waves is a mix of the two, has that tinnie sound of the UAD one but a rounder low end. All are cool though

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough! Thanks for watching!

@themarcos150591 5 жыл бұрын

SSL is my fave.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@MikeSadlerAU 4 жыл бұрын

Sensational comparison... which basically reaffirmed my choice of the Waves ones... and yes, price is an issue. KZfaq/streaming compression notwithstanding, I listened on my near-fields and I could definitely hear what you were hearing so it's probably the closest I've heard to what my own stuff would sound like that I've heard. Totally subscribed and belled :-) The SSL native was definitely the 'best' sounding (probably that I've heard, via YT), but I guess I'm looking to take a 'retrograde' step from later, digital consoles... I can already do 'pristine' all day, though I was REALLY impressed with the Native plugin... it really shows how good an SSL console can sound against the premium Japanese brands I'm used to in broadcast and post. If I was working in a modern studio doing 192K stuff all day, I'd be pretty swayed by the SSL native stuff. I'm actually after some 'dirt' and 'warmth' of tracking through the Waves SSL E channel - switched 'on', but with everything not engaged (using ProTools or Logic as a HDR basically), and then mixing with all the features as needed. Your demo sounded like the Waves channel really provided that 'glue it all together' sound I loved about good consoles from yesteryear, which made the whole mix gel... and didn't have that 'crusty', toppy edge the UA one did. Considering the amount of outboard you'd need to buy, the UA would be wickedly expensive and then, once you committed that many $$$ to external DSP, you have kinda locked yourself in a bit to try to get as much use out of it as possible and stick to UA plugins. If they 'open-sourced the API so *anyone* could do it... maybe... but that's not the model at present AFAIK :-( Finally, the Waves plugins can run on external DSP via Waves' SoundGrid Servers and they can integrate with multiple devices other than computers, e.g. in my case an X32 (and a Wing soooon, I hope). I'm hoping by committing to the Waves SG platform I can stop upgrading my Mac (or PC for that matter) and *just* use ProTools and Logic as we 'used to, back in the day', where things only went into 'the box' for tweaking... and only 'if needed', rather than having to make music with a mouse. It'd be nice to have the $$$ and space for a 'real' SSL 4000 with flying faders and all the gear to track and mix through, but hopefully the hybrid approach I've chosen will get me 'back to the future' OK. Thanks again!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thank for your input and for watching Mike!

@kpitchford5821 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking time to create and share this video. Of the three, I prefer the SSL Native; it just sounds so musical with warmth and depth with more defined lows and a very smooth top end; and it just glues the mix. The Waves would be my second choice; the top end isn’t as smooth but still has a bit more depth than the UAD. I didn’t care for the UAD, as the top end was rather bright and more importantly, to my ears, the UAD seemed to a bit wider but slightly less glue and it also seemed to flatten overall sound; bringing the more of the upper mids and highs to the forefront, less depth. Based on this video, I just purchased the SSL Native Channel Strip v2 and the Native Bus Compressor v2 and I couldn't be more pleased. The SSL Native sound is music to my ears.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

Glad the video helped you decide with your purchase! Have fun with the new plugin

@atmanrec1090 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for video..really helpful.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@iamantoniofernandez 3 жыл бұрын

Super informative! Thank you for this video. Super helpful

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

You're so welcome!

@ryanpeplinski1884 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! Thanks for making this plugin shootout!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

You bet!

@ToyTownRecordsTV 4 жыл бұрын

Did anyone else notice that the Brown EQ is active on the UAD one and the other 2 was the Black EQ? I own all 3 (plus the CLA mixhub) I like the UAD one best , especially because it has the mic pre option and I consider this a secret weapon and use it a lot. Great video 👋🏻

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

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@hundeaux 2 жыл бұрын

Ik this comment is dated but check out Waves SSL EV2 it has black&brown knobs and mic pre!!

@suedetvrecordingstudio4918 Жыл бұрын

What a detailed and informative video. You rock!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@brianvillage5 Жыл бұрын

You can switch between E and G with UAD, not sure about waves on the older one but I think you can with the new one. The SSL native channel strip is actually a 9000j series control strip while uad and waves are based off the 4000. I believe the latest waves channel is the 9000 as well.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Жыл бұрын

You are correct.

@sgfdancecompany 3 жыл бұрын

UAD have the legay version of the SSL without the transformer, that's are super light in the DSP and sound great also

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Correct. Thanks for watching

@JohnGaray 5 жыл бұрын

Damn this was GREAT! I don't know about you but I prefer the warmth of the waves. I can hear the instrumental separation in tonality better.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@thebigpicture2455 3 жыл бұрын

If that SSL version was some cheap brand...people would say "It has a really dull top end. Totally lacking any clarity". But now it's "smooth top end".

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Ok. thanks for watching

@thebigpicture2455 3 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Don't get me wrong...I totally appreciate the video...but what I said is a general trend.

@ShazammtheProducer 5 жыл бұрын

Great Video there is actually 10 SSL Plugins bro Channel Strip Bus Compressor X-EQ X-Phase Flex-Verb Drumstrip Vocalstrip X-Saturator X-Comp X-Valve Comp

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@reginaldallen5564 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Dave thanks for doing that review for me. You forgot that you can buy waves soundgrid for dsp power like UAD plugins..

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

Yep you are correct. I forgot about this as I don't use it myself but good point!

@foto21 4 жыл бұрын

I have yet to find almost any Waves plug-in other than a synth that I think actually improves the sound.

@jaimepainortiz 3 жыл бұрын

I have literally Every version of this SSL plug-in channel including the XLogic Superanalogue strips and a 6000e. You did a great video, the winner in ever case when using the actual SSL compared to the plug-in is...... Solid State Logic Plug-in from SSL ..

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@theguitaristGabriel 2 жыл бұрын

Plugin Alliance SSL 9000J is a must have if you (like myself) owns the native set cause they only emulate the E and G series, so if y0u want that J bass you should give PA’s demo a try

@simmermusic3894 2 жыл бұрын

Even if you compare against UAD in Unison?

@vaportrails7943 3 жыл бұрын

I’m curious about the SSL one because it’s on sale. I already have Waves and UAD. The Waves one is much better than the UAD. The UAD heavily colors the sound even with all controls at neutral. On the Waves one, you can turn off the Analog emulation and just get the tools in a clean state.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

The SSL is better than them all :)

@terrillmel 3 жыл бұрын

That Waves does sound good. Preferred it much to the UA. Ultimately I'd probably pick solid state for its polished sound, but the waves sounds very good.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@kelvynification 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! That’s a surprise... I personally found the Waves better than the UAD because of the less brittle highs. The SSL is my overall favorite though:) This is a very good comparison video. Nice!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@beeisbad 3 жыл бұрын

BEST ssl comparison ever!!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

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@robgracia509 3 жыл бұрын

great information thank you for sharing and great video

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@thestreetdisciple3955 3 жыл бұрын

I think the ua is the best emulation sounding though I love how the ssl native sounds the waves version is just okay

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@richardaling5278 3 жыл бұрын

Waves entered a much bigger space in the high-end! Huge! UA sounds saturated in the high mids.I'm lucky i have the Waves 4000e/g already.And the CLA Mixhub. Today i got the BX-offer 49,- but i discovered that is don't need another SSL-plugin:)

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

@frankrotthier4392 5 жыл бұрын

for a proper comparison I think the UAD should be on the black knob EQ, not brown knob EQ, right? I have the UAD but it eats DSP for breakfast so I think I might get the Brainworx one if it get's on sale again.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@yannickstippel587 3 жыл бұрын

Your videos are so good!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@brudiallen 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I guess the result is a little screwed if you started with the SSL Native until it sounded good and then copied those results to the other plug-ins. Probably would have gotten different results if you started with the Waves or UA and then copied those values to the SSL Native. Just some food for thought. Thanks a lot for your work! Just found this channel.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@stevewatts9128 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. A real eye (or ear) opener. The Waves sounded to me like it was pandering to a modern ear (despite being 10 years old or so) - that's fine but not when you're emulating a console 40 years old!.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@bobyatron7525 3 жыл бұрын

First off, thanks for the shootout. I really disagree that the Waves one and the UAD sound very close. Something is wrong with the high end of the Waves one. It just seems kind of thin and brittle to me. The UAD is bright by default but if you tone it back a bit you've still got a good sounding plug. Or, for instance, you can pair it up with something like an SM7B, which can take a bit of brightening without getting harsh. You're right about the SSL Native though. It sounds great.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@elonthebass6870 3 жыл бұрын

Crazy! The Waves emulation beats them all lol. The Native SSL sounds pillowy and bloated. It alters transients and does something to the image. My least favorite. The UAD version is better but sounds harsh and acidic. The saturation algorithm doesn’t sound harmonic or useful. Sounds like cheap digital distortion. The Waves version wins because it sounds musical. Plain and simple. It enhances the original source rather than simply altering it. I was gunning for the Native SSL version to be honest. Those suckers are on sale now. Thanks for the video man.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@travesdymusic 3 жыл бұрын

Well with the big deal going on, I highly appreciate this!!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

@TommyVarekai 3 жыл бұрын

i missed it :(

@chipcaronte 3 жыл бұрын

I also missed it. T_T

@miguellombana9847 4 жыл бұрын

Just so I understand, the actual recorded track has no processing going into the box, it's mic to input to chan on workstation correct? So the only processing is after the fact on playback as an insert... just want to understand if that is how the recording was done...

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

There may have been some processing at the recording stage. I did not do the recording myself so I cant be certain.

@richardyuen5786 2 жыл бұрын

For those who like the SSL native, check out the native SSL Channel strip 2. the layout is vertical and is more updated version of the original one.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

Version 2 is a great channel strip as well

@beatprocess 2 жыл бұрын

$19.99 right now!

@Jeffway24 5 жыл бұрын

That UAD is harsh. SSL native sounds best. Very vibey and 3D like you said

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

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@dairebarefoot6763 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It gives vocals a good fullness when compared to other channel strips with the same settings.

@jreel8245 3 жыл бұрын

I got the SSL Channel Strip and Bus Compressor for a $49 exclusive deal and is my fav!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing deal

@TommyVarekai 3 жыл бұрын

lucky, i missed it :(

@jj4l Жыл бұрын

@@TommyVarekai it's on again now :) pluginboutique

@thecart1594 Жыл бұрын

Great stuff,so are you using these on the mixbus or where? the ssl sounds great.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Жыл бұрын

I dont use channel strips on the master bus, but you can certainly do that

@gettingtotherootofitall 3 жыл бұрын

The SSL Native have a smoother hi end and fatter bottom The UAD Sounds great as well...

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Beethovan Жыл бұрын

Bro. Thanks for this SSL comparison video. It helps us to avoid wasting money on bad sounding plugins like UAD SSL.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@bestok Жыл бұрын

Thanks to this valuable a free to the general public comparisson, I'm just wondering now how would the ssl v2 or the brainworx version fare in the tests

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Жыл бұрын

good question

@CeZarMusic 4 жыл бұрын

So, this is what I hear on my studio monitors (2xAdamA7X+AdamSub7, properly calibrated): Depth: ->SSL Native->UAD->Waves, Transient:UAD-> SSL Native->Waves, High end sparkle: UAD->Waves->SSL Native, Dirt: UAD->Waves->SSL Native, Clarity: SSL Native->Waves->UAD, High end analog sound(good harmonics/the least harsh):SSL Native->Waves->UAD. Personal preference: SSL Native->UAD->Waves. I'd figure that on both UAD and Waves there would be extra work involved outside of the channel strip such as transient designing, de-essing the overheads, multiband compression, etc. So SSL Native is a clear winner to me for this purpose. I'd imagine if you're working with a proper analog console and need to export everything to the Master Bus you would struggle if the sound coming out of it was the UAD or Waves sound from these plugs, so that's the way I see it. Also, I've got S1 4.6 Pro but I've moved to Cubase 10.5, contrary to what many people say around here, audio engines on DAWs do matter, and Cubase, to me, sounds the best and the warmest out of all of them, while S1 has a "thin" summing sound to it, very hard to expand the stereo field. These are my 2 cents on this one. Cheers for the review!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

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@wthompson006 9 ай бұрын

Thankfully UA has released the native version of their plugins. I have an Apollo Solo and can use my single core on the way in and then apply something like the SSL, during the mix phase, to all the channels using the native version and the mac’s CPU. For a small home studio this is a real nice way to go.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 9 ай бұрын

Not all of their plugins are native yet. Not even a fraction of them

@wthompson006 9 ай бұрын

Agreed. They are adding new plugins as they are able. I believe Spark launched with 14 titles and is currently somewhere in the 30 title range. I’m simply saying, if a Solo is all one can afford, the addition of the native plugins makes a Solo a much more viable option. The plugins they have made native cover many of the needs and wants a small studio will have during the mix, while still being able to use a small number of plugins during tracking for the performer’s comfort and to print to the recording and speed up the mix. But yes, not every title is available natively yet. Also, some of the plugins are super dsp intense. The Capitol reverb, for example, uses something like 70% of a core. That doesn’t leave much for much else.

@87_North 3 жыл бұрын

Just bought the SSL version... sounds the best to my ears. Very similar to UA's, but Waves' version just did something to the drums that I didn't love... they stood out more in the mix than the other instruments. It changed the mix to feel like the drums you'd expect to hear in a dance music track.. too much for me.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@adamphillips6747 3 жыл бұрын

I love when people complain about the UA version not being able to type in a value. This is why we mix with our ears not our eyes. In the old days that I am used to we turned it until we liked it. I do like the SSL GUI as well. Very easy to read.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

wasn't complaining just pointing out the differences. I do however think that U/A should make their UI resizable.

@adamphillips6747 3 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy wasn't saying you, just people in general. I hate that UA stuff isn't zoomable especially some of the amp models. Happy recording.

@thedaveut 4 ай бұрын

Really cool comparison. I'm with you on the top end conclusion. I also own all three. I find that in the context of dense mixes that the Waves channel strip has a punch low/mid-low character that I really like. Probably more so with the G-Channel however which I use often and on every channel. Very low CPU usage and it equates to a nice controlled low-end and punchy mix. Great video bro!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 ай бұрын

Thank you

@themountainradio 2 жыл бұрын

I compared bx and SSL on my own and the SSL one sounded significantly better to me. I was surprised because I've always loved the bx.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

@andrewsh7954 3 жыл бұрын

great vid :) I prefer the ssl & it's overall aesthetics although waves mega sale might tip the scales. arggghhhhh!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough!

@ST-fl5fy 2 жыл бұрын

The SSL native is based on the 9000 series so it is going to be a little smoother. The UAD is harsh. The waves does good of the characteristics of a 4000. Sounds radio ready. The SSL native sounds more warm, smooth if you want that for the song but again it is based on a 9000

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@michelevisser6811 4 жыл бұрын

I love you channel! 😊

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😊

@hauntedbytheliving1175 3 жыл бұрын

I whole-heartedly agree with these conclusions. In my opinion, all of the best, most 3-dimensional, transient accurate and “open” sounding plugins are either direct ports of digital devices or “sampled” hardware technology(Acustica). Ironically, the former sound far better AND require far less CPU than their hardware emulating counterparts due to not adding fake hardware saturation. The SSL Native channel strip is the Duende channel strip, which is the direct ported code from their “C” series digital consoles. On the UAD platform, the AMS Neve DFC channel is by far their ugliest GUI but best sounding channel strip in my opinion... a direct port of the Neve “Digital Film Console” channel strip. The same model used at “Industrial Light & Magic”/Lucasfilm. Softube released their gambit channel, direct ported from Weiss digital hardware and it destroys all the other console one channel strips... not only that, but if you start with the Weiss Gambit Channel and replace the EQ, comp and shape sections with say, the SSL 9000 K console, ironically it sounds WAY more like that hardware than with the original “modeled” channel. The same goes for the Neve & API channels. I spent YEARS on an SSL “Duality” and I know the sonic signature of their modern channels quite well. This “Gambit Channel” hack provides Console One users a whole new palate of fidelity. If UAD ported the Neve DFC for Console One, we would literally have the same audio fidelity as Skywalker Sound/Lucasfilm along with a hardware workflow. I think we are going to look back at the era of algorithmic “caricatures” of analog harmonics as dark times in professional audio. I’d like to add that not only does the SSL Native sound superior, I find that I make different/better decisions using it compared to the UAD.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and your insight!

@SeanWyseman 5 жыл бұрын

Are you using the X series UAD or the Mkii or earlier? I have both UAD x series and mkii. The X series are as detailed as anything out there sporting amazing digitization with transparency and overhead previous not available sub 2000.00.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

using an apollo 8P not the new X series

@ezrashanti 4 жыл бұрын

The interface will make ZERO difference in the sound of the plug in. Same plug in. He's using an Apollo for all 3 plug-ins, but nothing is passing out of the converters between his tracks and our ears.

@pjlira 9 ай бұрын

#2 for me was the best every time... warmth and glue.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@146truthstreet7 3 жыл бұрын

I have Waves and Plugin Alliance’s SSL’s... Just bought the SSL Logic.... It’s the best.. smooth Compression, smooth Eq.. best plugin. If I had to choose a desert Island plug-in ...SSL Logic for $50 it’s a no brainer...I could hear the brittleness in the highs on my iPhone from you comparisons......👍..IMO it’s a game changer.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Great....congrats!!

@joshd265 11 ай бұрын

Have you done a shootout between the SSL native strip and the analog desk channel?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 11 ай бұрын

No, I have not. No, they are not even close to the same, trust me

@bavingeter423 2 жыл бұрын

What I really want to know but can’t seem to find out is so these Chanel strips color/saturate the sound? Do the EQ’s color the sound? Is that part of the reason why people buy these?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the plugins try to emulate all the circuitry on the analog desk

@boulevardsound5137 4 жыл бұрын

ssl wins by a bit of a stretch in my opinion. It has a depth that the other two don't. I think the waves might actually be a notch better than the uad one (highs are a bit cleaner and i love the gate on the waves ssl). I was just about to buy the uad ssl but I think im going with the ssl now. I think the only think good thats come out of my uad is the ampex ATR.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@raibard8886 3 жыл бұрын

You MUST try Acustica Audio’s Sand 3, their SSL channel strip. Perhaps better than SSL’s own.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

I am not a fan of Acustica plugins

@anthonylee3311 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, really great comparison. I agree with your conclusion too, the Solid State Logic seems to have more depth, glue & smoothness - my ideal starting point

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Anthony!

@osovitor28 4 жыл бұрын

Hey man, thanks for the comparison, excellent. I personally have been using the Solid State Logic console (Oxford), and the difference in the mix is wonderful. I recently compared to the waves SSL-E but I choose in that time the SSL from SSL, really the low end and the smooth mids and highs are magic. Thanks to confirm my good choose.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@Renaxelo 3 жыл бұрын

do you think X-saturator worth to buy?

@andyjack1942 2 жыл бұрын

I have the UA version. Like the SSL and will definitely be purchasing it. But to my ear, I prefer the Waves! Despite being 12 year old tech. Tend to listen to this time of stuff on my iPad, as really, that’s where you should hear the most difference. Will be getting the SSL as I have the UA channel strip but not the compressor which is really where is shines, IMO. I have an Apollo and octo satellite, so cpu using is not a big deal to me. Great vid!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@Ultimate_Wasabi 3 жыл бұрын

So SSL just released Version 2 of these plugins along with a hardware controller. In their video, they state that the original as well as the new version are based off a 9000k console and that the E/G selector is just for the bell curves. I'm not sure anybody knew that about the first release and assumed that the E/G selector was emulating the selected version of the console and not just the curves. BTW - you can upgrade your V1 to V2 for free.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@PurpleMusicProductions 5 жыл бұрын

The SSL by a mile. The UAD sounded very harsh and the low end went ghost. The Waves was not bad but had a weakness in the low end compared to the SSL. I have the waves version but I have no bias. What I did find surprising is that the UAD sounded the worse in my opinion which is odd since that plugin is at least $200 vs the $29 Waves version on sale yet they sounded similar however for the cost difference that should not be the case by no means.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@davidleeroth357 3 жыл бұрын

The Waves channel Strip brought out the drums more imo. No knock on the others

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@gabrielharleymusic 2 ай бұрын

I know this is an old video at this point, but wanted to say thanks for the good comparison. Personally, there are things I like about each plugin. The silkiness of the SSL overall is good; it definitely has that rounder "analog" sound--ALMOST tape-like in its smoothness. If I could, I'd combine that with the low end definition of the UA and the mid and upper clarity of the WAVES.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@BukanIbuMu Ай бұрын

Funny enough that the SSL has no built in harmonic saturation, unlike the other 2.

@jimgraczyk6991 5 ай бұрын

I want to buy this plugin but I cant find the SSL native with the horizontal layout

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 ай бұрын

no longer exists. You are watch a video that is more than 3 years old. go to their website and see the new revision of this plugin

@MarkusLeander 3 жыл бұрын

Hi! I’ve been testing the CPU hit for 24 instances in my system and it’s taking 16% (without playing any music) compared to yours at 7%. Do you have any idea why I might be getting much higher CPU consumption than yours? Which CPU do you have? Mine has 8 cores (with the added theoretical ones, totalling 16) and is overclocked as 4.79 GHz. I’m on Cubase 10.5. Great video by they way. Thanks in advance!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure. I have an 8-core processor with 64 GB ram on my Mac Pro. Also, maybe Studio One runs more efficient than Cubase? Again, not sure

@CLdwyer 3 жыл бұрын

The snare and toms came out much more in the UAD. Sounded like a rock record which is immediately more useful. The native one however, comes off smoother. I’d use them differently (I have them both and I do). Waves has never been useful to me.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@vint5270 2 жыл бұрын

Haha，I totally agree with you dude, Waves always have a sleep everytime

@dtrelzmusic 4 жыл бұрын

Did you use this plugin with the tape to analog video series? if not will you be updating that series ?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Not sure what analog video series you are speaking of

@dtrelzmusic 4 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy My fault I only meant to post this on the luna video because that deals with tape

@brianwynn10 3 жыл бұрын

I have the ssl I’m tryna learn how to used it on my vocal

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

its a great plugin. You'll love it!

@addiralmusic5931 5 жыл бұрын

Isn't the SSL Native based on the 9K console while the Waves+UAD are the 4K?? I think that explains why the EQ seems smoother in the SSL Native.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

Not sure....good point

@boulevardsound5137 4 жыл бұрын

Holy shit!

@christianschneider1706 4 жыл бұрын

Yep. That’s exactly what it is. Totally different eqs. 😌

@Dr.Jekyll 4 жыл бұрын

I looked at the SSL website and didn’t see where they say it’s based on the 9000. But they do have the E &G options. Those were associated with the 4000, right? We’re they associated with the 9000?

@marc_leblanc 4 жыл бұрын

@@Dr.Jekyll Yes switchable EQ between E & G so I would assume it's the 4000.

@kougan_music 3 жыл бұрын

The waves being an older plugin makes sense that it doesn't use much CPU no ? It was tailored to the processors at the time which were less powerful than today so programs had to use less CPU and be more efficient to compensate for slower processors. Now we can do more with processors becausee they are faster and can handle it. But programs can sometimes hog it more while doing the same thing if they are not properly optimized.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree. The older plugs do take less CPU but they are not always modeled as accurately.

@drylpresberry 5 жыл бұрын

I do apologize for side conversation, but can we get and in depth video about your backup data rigged?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

There is a video on my channel where I show in detail my computer and backup set up.

@drylpresberry 5 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy is this the video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jJNooKqdzszXYJc.html

@j.p.fitting9226 3 жыл бұрын

agree with your assesment Bitchin' tune too ! good mix !tL's web site to investigate their DAW front ends because of this ! cheers

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@andyjack1942 2 жыл бұрын

Why no vocal processing? Btw UA have gone native, don’t think the ssl is included though.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

because I didn't feel I need to do that

@danrod8482 5 жыл бұрын

Ssl sound more clean and depth . I'ts algoritm from SSL DIGITAL CONSOLE (C 200, 9000) Waves and Uad is analog console so it's add noise and all that s#it 😉

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com

@volgalgzkaradagoglu 4 жыл бұрын

There's analog on-off switch on Waves' SSL. I don't know if it gives you what you like. I like the analog sound

@mrgohst3244 4 жыл бұрын

just turn of Analog @ Waves Plugins ;)

@SoloNtuneOfficial 4 жыл бұрын

I agree

@Subholik3 4 жыл бұрын

SSL native for me! cuz wave adds a little extra high! that I don't want!

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@hajianekena6909 3 жыл бұрын

maybe you mean universal audio not waves?

3 жыл бұрын

great comparison. The SSL is more clean and gives more room for mastering

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@tommystratpaul 3 жыл бұрын

The SSL sounds best to me, but the waves is the best of the two other options. I guess that is where I'm gonna have to put my money :P

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

@mikeogle2283 9 ай бұрын

Price is always an issue for me, as is CPU draw. At the end of the day however, the sound is what we all should prioritize to justify the added expense over another competitor. On my JBL monitor system the UAD emphasized the kick drum. The Waves one' which I own, emphasized the hi-hat... a lot. Kinda behaving like a maximizer, or turning up the treble on a stereo system. The actual SSL was overall more natural sounding. Its helpful that you kept using the same piece of music for comparison. It permits us all to fine-tune our ears and zero in on what's passing by several times.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@DavidComdico 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. Only thing missing is latency figures.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

not sure I understand.

@SilentScreamsStudios 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite software, killer

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@urbansoundscarllamb 4 жыл бұрын

Good day to you, just come across your channel, firstly, thanks for this video really helpful! Also, I subscribed to your channel. I am thinking of taking out a subscription for the bundle. On playback, the Oxford just sounded so much smoother. UA and Waves, brittle and harsh, especially the cymbals. With the Oxford, they were smooth sounding. Agreed with your assessment on the low end as well; a lot tighter.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub! The SSL native bundle is really great and all the plugins sound great.

@nashse7en 6 ай бұрын

But this SSL v6 is not modeled after the 4000 or it is? i saw that they are 8000 models

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 6 ай бұрын

I think its based on the 9,000 series. Their newer ones are the 4000 series

@malcolmpalm 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Dave, great review. Do you think that the low CPU usage with the SSL and Waves plugs has anything to do with the number of Cores (8) on your Mac Pro?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

I'm sure it does. The higher spec'd the computer the more plugins you can typically use.

@malcolmpalm 5 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy I'm attempting to justify a new computer purchase with outside validation. lol

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

What are your current computer specs?

@malcolmpalm 5 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Quad Core, 32 GB ram, 250 GB SSD drive. 3.7 GHz processor. Since the advent of the new processing and low latency features in Studio One things are better, but some plugins hog my CPU fairly quickly. I may be running low on HD space as well.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 5 жыл бұрын

250GB is a small HD if you are running all your applications as well as your S1 sessions and will fill up quickly. You have plenty of RAM so that's not an issue. If you are using a ton of plugins, depending on which ones you are using you can run low on CPU at one point. Also, depending on how old your computer is, today the RAM is faster, the processors are faster and more efficient so that is something to consider. You could also look at something like the Waves Sound Grid or a U/A hardware system to take the load off your CPU. There are lots of choices.

@hectorbarreto6216 4 жыл бұрын

I love the waves sound so musical

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching! I really appreciate your support! Be sure to check out my website for even more training. www.homerecordingmadeeasy.com

@VibeMusicRo 3 жыл бұрын

Yes ! i feel the same.

@xsonicassassinx 3 жыл бұрын

the UA version is... just annoying. the waves is brighter than the SSL, but it's in a presence area, not the high mids. now that the SSL native is on crazy sale, this really sold me. thank you. the hardest part is going to be remembering to reach for a different channel strip plugin now 😅

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Get that sale! I cant believe how many people are picking it up!

@TheDilligan 3 жыл бұрын

SSL and Waves are winners for me on this comparison. SSL is very thick and Waves has the best top end. All are solid. Sure the UAD sounds more harsh and bright when it's on the exact same settings as the others, but if you were mixing with it you'd compensate for that and your mix would be just as good.

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

@devarni Жыл бұрын

I like the Waves more. Needs little CPU, sounds good and is also quite cheap (mostly around $30, not including WUP for updates).

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@devarni Жыл бұрын

Thanks for producing the video! What is your favorite among all the SSL channel strips? bx_console 4000E/G, Waves 4000E/G (or the new EV2), Console1, UAD,... there are so many?

@DJGlashammer 2 жыл бұрын

Thank for the Vid. 👍 solid is just totally pleasant in my ears and the sound takes you with you. whereas the others (UAD & WAV) sound somewhat broader at the top. don't pick me up like SSL. short for me place 1 = SSL 2 = UAD 3 = WAV (this is way too bright for me)

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@keith-marvk-harrisii8666 3 жыл бұрын

Is the SSL native channel strip an emulation of the SSL DUALITY console?

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

You Know? I am really not sure. I'll have to see if there is any info on their website

@keith-marvk-harrisii8666 3 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy sure. I'll share with you what I find back here.

@kaplanhirschmannmusic893 3 жыл бұрын

The native channel strip uses the same algorithms as the digital SSL C200 console as far as I know. When SSL released their the first versions of their plug-ins, they ran on dedicated hardware: a firewirebox with DSPs called Duende (mine never worked properly ;-( ). In SSL‘s marketing material at that time they mentioned their C200 console as the origin for the plug-ins‘ algorithm. So it is a plug-in version of a channel strip of a digital console. The „behavior“ of this digital console however is based on the SSL G-Series and E-Series consoles from the 80ies. I guess the SSL channel strip doesn‘t try to emulate technical deficiencies (or character) of analog hardware like the UAD and SSL Versions. For example the Waves channel strip adds a little bit of saturation, while the SSL one doesn‘t.

@karvn1148 3 жыл бұрын

I like the bx emulation

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!!

@timeiseverything4 2 жыл бұрын

Waves one is like 15 years old right? In bad need of updating. SSL version has few presets. They could sell more if they had as many as waves

@HomeRecordingMadeEasy 2 жыл бұрын

Waves recently updated their channel strip in 2021. I did a video for it.

@timeiseverything4 2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Comical considering it doesn't compare to the actual SSl plug in. Gotta love how they put analog switches on stuff that basically just introduce noise. Waves is very gimmicky.