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Did The Yoruba Have Contact With The Americas Before Columbus?

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@ptolemeeselenion1542
@ptolemeeselenion1542 Жыл бұрын
Ile Ife is not even in Nigeria. It's simply a composite mythical kingdom assembling history and myths from ancient and medieval Nubia (Kush, Alodia, Nobatia and Dongola) and the land of Yam/Negritia or Nok Culture, from which the ancestors of Yoruba royalty descends from. My guess is that, at some point in history around 300 BCE to 900 CE, a royal or aristocratic bloodline of Pan-Sahelian descent connected to the Nile valley kingdoms and to the Nok Culture migrated westward and southward in a migratory pattern reminiscent of the Hausa people and other Afro-Asiatic speaking ethnic groups now settled in present-day Nigeria, Chad and Niger, intermarried with the common ancestors of all Kwa-speaking and so-called East Kwa/proto-Yoruboid/Volta-Niger/West Benue-Congo speaking people alike (or so-called Defoid speaking populations) during the African Iron Age-- giving birth to the Yoruba, Igbo, Akan, Kwa-speaking and other alike royalties living in the region of Eastern Guinea, then that at some point around the last quarter of the Ist millenium CE to 12th century CE, the Yorubas began to splice apart from the lot as a distinct ethnolinguistic polity and to found kingdoms all over Eastern Guinea starting 900s CE due to significant climatic changes and political upheavals all across the Sudano-Sahelian region caused by the drought of the Lake Chad, the expansion of concurrent Sudanian and Saharian kingdoms, the economic downfall of Nubia and its polities (mostly caused by the further desertification of Sahara in Sudan) by the 500s CE, the Arab invasions of Egypt and Nubia by the VIIIth century CE and at last the uprise of Empress Gudit and of her Zagwē Havilah Dynasty in Abyssinia followed next by a period of Abyssinian expansionism back to East Africa and Central Africa, causing numerous Alodian and Dongolian princes and clans to migrate into regions tropical Africa yet unoccupied by Gudit (such as the Central African Shenzi Chwezi Empire of Kitara, its Zanguestan/Zanguebar/"Swahili States" province and South-Central Africa) and West Sudan.
@ptolemeeselenion1542
@ptolemeeselenion1542 Жыл бұрын
Various accounts, legends and astronavigation reports attests evidence of contacts and exchanges made between Pre-Columbian America and various West African and Central African polities in medieval times, mayhaps going as far as in antiquity, if not in prehistory.
@ayodelebadmus6822
@ayodelebadmus6822 Жыл бұрын
@@ptolemeeselenion1542 Please, this is incorrect. We did'nt originate from east Africa . That theory was recorded from Sultan Bello of the Sokoto caliphate in the 19th century to tie the Yoruba peoples to an islamic origin. Unfortunately that hypothesis/rumour has spread like wild fire.
@skyking3210
@skyking3210 Жыл бұрын
Ifa heads, Benin bronze, some of those Olmecs heads, Yoruba faces
@okra3000
@okra3000 Жыл бұрын
Who does your thumbnail artwork❓
@FromNothing
@FromNothing Жыл бұрын
This was excellent! I remember reading about this years ago when I was only just getting my feet wet with African history content. I was gonna do a video on it as well but never got around to it. I also like the objectiveness and fairness when you suggested that it may very well have been brought by Native Americans themselves rather than the other way around. It's always refreshing to receive such an unbiased assessment.
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Жыл бұрын
“According to a memory still alive in the Idjo nation, the Yorubans in days of old went on sea voyages which lasted a ear before they came home again.” -Leo Frobenius
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Жыл бұрын
“According to a memory still alive in the Idjo nation, the Yorubans in days of old went on sea voyages which lasted a ear before they came home again.” -Leo Frobenius
@Birthday92sex
@Birthday92sex Жыл бұрын
Idjo nation?
@melaninsupergurl-vu4uv
@melaninsupergurl-vu4uv Жыл бұрын
Perhaps that is a folk memory of some of the ancestors of Yoruba, Mende, Igbo before they split into separate tribes iin West Africa after journeying out of Arabia to escape defeat by the Arabs into Sudan South of Egypt.... Then dropping Colonies on the Migration toward Nigeria. Taking Advantage of Red Sea, Indian Ocean Ports, as the Hebrews did under King Solomon... West Africa has continual dangerous waterfalls and rapid increases in elevation and cliffs and Navigation from the interior in sea going vessels is almost impossible.
@okekechidi3377
@okekechidi3377 Жыл бұрын
@@melaninsupergurl-vu4uv please keep the IGBOS out of this nonsense claim. We are not related to these peoples you mentioned. We know those who we are related to. Period.
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Жыл бұрын
@@melaninsupergurl-vu4uv you say folk memory, but the people say nothing. Only Islamic nations preserve some FAR FAR northern oral tradition The closest we have is a single oral tradition from the Ghana empire after it's conversion to Islam stating their founder was from Aswan, Egypt
@adisakorij4528
@adisakorij4528 Жыл бұрын
​@@Birthday92sexIjaw not Igbo
@catherineprince5345
@catherineprince5345 Жыл бұрын
Professor Ivan Van Sertima wrote several books on the subject of the African influence in the Americas. Not sure if he was specifically speaking on the Yoruba tribe, but he has given a very strong argument regarding the general African presence in the Americas.
@TheRealCompensator
@TheRealCompensator Жыл бұрын
I read I a long time ago, from my understanding he didn’t mention it. Though at the time we didn’t know that much about indigenous tribes of west Africa, as we do now. Things were more generic about the “Moors”. But there are a few books on ancient archaeology and anthropology, pertaining West Africa.
@ynotlearn4190
@ynotlearn4190 Жыл бұрын
He was debunked years ago! His information is outdated!
@listenup2882
@listenup2882 Жыл бұрын
Van Sertima, in his book "They Came Before Columbus' asserts that Mende people and Malians in particular had been in the Anericas in antiquity.
@carbon6951
@carbon6951 Жыл бұрын
​@@ynotlearn4190Van Sertima has never been debunked.. Only a few of his theories were debunked.. He did get many other things correct.. He did the best he could do with the information and technology of that time.
@icu4life240
@icu4life240 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheRealCompensatorHe did mention corn he also mentioned the rubber plant and the calabash.
@jamiewilson5679
@jamiewilson5679 Жыл бұрын
I work with a Yoruba lad from Nigeria (in England),he's a good lad,very intelligent and caring,up the Yoruba!
@princedebo1436
@princedebo1436 Жыл бұрын
The professor who taught me philosophy and logic at the University told us that Socrates and some of the great scholars of his time came to Ile -ife to study and learn IFA,so if such contact with america happened before Columbus i wouldn't doubt it a bit... however the late Oni(king) of ife,Oba sijuade olubuse ,said in documentary aired on AIT tv ,1993 that two universities in the United kingdom carried out an excavation in ife,some of the artifacts that were found, were radio dated,it was established they had been existed seven thousand years before the birth Moses and those artifacts were of Yoruba origin.
@GabriellaGabrielle
@GabriellaGabrielle Жыл бұрын
Oh wow 😮
@efemzyekun900
@efemzyekun900 Жыл бұрын
Ifa is Yoruba information retrieval system that is dated about 250,000 years ago and it is premised on the concept that gave birth to modern day computer. Ifa has 256 Odus and computer has 256 bytes. Ifa is based on the binary of 1:0, computer is based on same principles. So, if Ifa is far older than a 19th century invention by several thousands of years, then it is obvious to know that the west learn the concept of computing from the Yorubas.
@princedebo1436
@princedebo1436 Жыл бұрын
@@efemzyekun900 thank you for your information, astonishing!!
@efemzyekun900
@efemzyekun900 Жыл бұрын
@@princedebo1436 You're most welcome sir.
@lordmoff1231
@lordmoff1231 Жыл бұрын
Neither Socrates nor any other Greek Philosopher went to Ife. Quite a lot went to Egypt though and sometimes quite far away states in the Mediterranean or the Middle East. First : The furthest (Phoenician) outpost of the Mediterranean societies sowas in modern day Marroco. Second: The Gulf of Guinea was a deathbed even for a lot of European Colonizers up to the 19th century solely because of the diseases against whom they had no resistance.
@Inthaflesh
@Inthaflesh Жыл бұрын
In Van Sertimas book “they came before columbus” he points out Natives in the americas were engaged in trade and even wars with Black skinned people that came from the east, making a point that there must have been an astounding number of black skinned people to be able to engage in wars and still have a community present. they both even had war captives of the each others. He speaks on the gold spears with a particular number of compartment that match exactly like the spears in ghana. They’re in a museum. And let’s not forget the olmec heads, also there is a GIANT ANKH symbol next to the pyramid of the sun in mexico and that symbol is found no where in aztec mayan or even toltec or incan scripts. but can be found all over africa.
@CrowdPleeza
@CrowdPleeza Жыл бұрын
Look up this article. It challenges Ivan Van Sertima's info. "ROBBING NATIVE AMERICAN CULTURES: VAN SERTIMA’S AFROCENTRICITY AND THE OLMECS" Hall Of Maat website
@Inthaflesh
@Inthaflesh Жыл бұрын
@@CrowdPleeza long article. will try to get back to you.
@vernonrobinson1685
@vernonrobinson1685 Жыл бұрын
The Olmec pyramids cannot be connected to the Nile Valley ones although the provided article in some ways contradict itself.
@Inthaflesh
@Inthaflesh Жыл бұрын
@@vernonrobinson1685 and what basis do you have for that argument? you can’t just expect me to agree just off your statement.. because there’s specific locks in the blocks of the pyramids both in the olmec and kushite pyramids .. 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️there’s honestly too much info to dispute. and yes the article contradicts itself but the article does raise a few interesting questions but nothing that would refute AFRICAN people being in america before columbus, which is the argument, not entirely who gave who what culture and so forth… even tho i know africans had spread their culture all over the world and it’s no debate at all.
@vernonrobinson1685
@vernonrobinson1685 Жыл бұрын
@Inthaflesh The basis is the Olmec pyramids resemble none of the pyramids
@NeoShameMan
@NeoShameMan Жыл бұрын
I am martinican, and we have a strange pottery (adorno) that is dated from pre Colombian Era that is earily looking like black features and stylistically different from any other pottery
@robertmathurin739
@robertmathurin739 Жыл бұрын
🇱🇨👊🏼👍🏼♥️
@missjuneplum1
@missjuneplum1 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see that pottery
@eccentricaste3232
@eccentricaste3232 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on african mathematical systems, astronomy and the like? The dogons fascinates me because it helped me understand what most secret societies like ogboni keeps secret. One thing i noticed is, things like divination and other forms of african spirituality deals with transcendental numbers. Pi and e are both popular here but i believe more can be found in Africa. I love math and i know how powerful imaginary numbers are and i believe there are wealth knowledge in this field in africa that haven't been explored due to secrecy
@dig2784
@dig2784 Жыл бұрын
AS A GULLAH GEECHEE MAN ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALWAYS SAY IS “WE BINYA” (we been here) ✊🏾
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Жыл бұрын
Hold up, do gullah folk have an oral tradition that they were there before Columbus?
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
All documents say the Gulla peple were among the first slaves to become independent and establish they're own community. Not that they were here before Columbus
@dig2784
@dig2784 Жыл бұрын
@@soda8736 I’m well aware..just pointing out that our saying has relevance to the subject matter is all
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
@@dig2784 ok got it. I previously had a bet with a friend who was trying to tell me they were before Columbus .
@senpai704
@senpai704 Жыл бұрын
@@soda8736mesi im mississippi creole its crazh here african people saying we been here before indigenous americans 😂😂
@amsmagicalgardeninsmall1009
@amsmagicalgardeninsmall1009 Жыл бұрын
So the question you raised was did the Yoruba have contact with the Americas before Columbus? Everyone had contact with the Americas before Columbus because Columbus did not discover America remember? The Americas were so-called discovered by Amerigo Vespucci and Columbus wandered on over to West Indies. So that whole lie about Columbus discovering America is wrong that they taught us in school. But I think you've talked about that before. So again the question is this the Yoruba have contact with the Americas before Columbus, the answer is enphaticly, YES! Thank you for your content I love it!🎉 KEEP GOING BROTHER!
@alexandramoore8200
@alexandramoore8200 Жыл бұрын
your videos are fantastic - I love learning more about history that wasn't taught in north american school systems.
@TheRealCompensator
@TheRealCompensator Жыл бұрын
I wonder, besides pottery. Has maize been found in the soil near these potteries? And if so, how deep in the soil was it. If so, this will determine and confirm how old the maize is (proximity).
@jayblaine555
@jayblaine555 Жыл бұрын
That's a possibility. But as far as I know there are no written or oral accounts to back this meeting up of Yoruba and peoples of the Americas. Since these continents were connected millions of years ago, that is probably why maize is in that area of Africa.. For example the most sacred tree to many of the indigenous of central and south America, the ceiba, is also found in the jungles of west / central Africa and is on the flag of Equatorial Guinea. But there is no evidence that one gave the other the tree or shared the tree's medicinal and spiritual aspects. Just parallel evolution.
@missjuneplum1
@missjuneplum1 Жыл бұрын
It's my belief also.
@karine-ela
@karine-ela Жыл бұрын
There are
@karine-ela
@karine-ela Жыл бұрын
@@missjuneplum1 there are
@jayblaine555
@jayblaine555 Жыл бұрын
@@karine-ela Ok.. where? who?
@broq9194
@broq9194 Жыл бұрын
We know that West Africans (particularly Mandinka), called the "Olmecs" have been traveling the Canary Current and trading with Mexico since 3,000 B.C. or earlier, and West Africa traded internally among all the nations, so we should expect many similar things to be found in Central/South America and Africa (foods, animals, pottery, etc.) as the result of very early trade, and this fact is being "underexplored". West Africans living in Los Angeles typically do half of their shopping for food in Mexican grocery stores BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE SAME STAPLE FOODS. They buy their spices from African grocery stores, and buy their meat, peppers, vegetables, and produce from Mexican grocery stores because they have everything they need. I used to tell my Black and Mexican students in South Central LA about all the food and cultural similarities between Central Americans (Mexicans) and Africans and talk about the trade and contact, AND THEY LOVED IT, made them feel closer to each other, since they already had so many similarities already. Ivan Van Sertima already pointed out that African cotton was found in the Americas, but THAT'S JUST FOR STARTERS. We need to thoroughly research and explore beans, corn, cotton, peanuts, rice, and even flamingos, because we know Africans frequently traded exotic animals as well. In Central America, flamingos are found only in a place very near to the Olmec civilization (where Africans frequented) and also found all over South America and the Caribbean. They're also found in Africa, Asia, and Southern Europe, but they are concentrated mostly in South America, are less ubiquitous in Africa, and only found in very few places in Asia and Europe, with their distribution clearly coming from Africa. I believe that the Flaming is a native South/Central American bird, as it is more widespread in the Americas, has more species variations, and actually resembles birds commonly found in the Americas, as their very colorful plumage and huge and strangely shaped beak are both features common to the Americas, and much less common in Africa, hardly seen in Asia or Europe. The toucan (a South American bird) for example has very similar brightly colored plumage and the very same kind of huge bill as it's beak. How can a bird spread out over a much wider area (Africa, Asia, Southern Europe) and have much less species diversity than South America, a place in closer proximity and with extremely similar ecosystems. It doesn't make sense!!! My theory is that the very beautiful flamingo, highly prized for it's beautiful plumage all over the world, is one of the principal exotic animals traded between Central Americans and West Africans beginning in a very ancient date, then spreading into other parts of Africa and into Asia and Southern Europe. The peanut is also some serious evidence, as it is clearly native to South America, but found all over Africa, particularly in West Africa. Here in The Gambia the peanut (called groundnut in Africa) is the chief staple crop of the Mandinka, - THE VERY SAME AFRICANS WHO TRADED WITH MEXICO, THE SAME AFRICANS WHO ARE CALLED "OLMECS" IN AMERICA, AND LEFT THEIR WRITING AND GIANT STONE HEADS OF THEMSELVES. The Mandinka are of the larger "Mende" language group, which includes the Bambara - who have their own subspecies of peanut called the "Bambara nut", which (if I'm not mistaken) is the only other native peanut species growing outside of South America. Isn't that strange? = The very same people - The Mandinka/Mende/Bambara, called the "Olmecs" in the Americas, 1) Have made the peanut (a South American plant) their chief staple crop, and 2) are growing the only peanut sub-species in the world outside of South America, clearly suggesting that they obtained the peanut (through trade with Central/South America) so long ago that the peanut became one of their principal crops and they even cultivated their own species of peanut!!! But nobody is exploring this evidence!!! Also, the Yoruba religion called "Ifa" is estimated to be at least 2,500, and in its sacred verses called "Odu Ifa" (the cornerstone of their religion) corn is mentioned MANY TIMES and was clearly a staple food of the Yoruba since ancient times, just like it still is today, and just like it is for many other African peoples, particularly West African - where trade with Central/South America occurred. The Portuguese didn't first contact the Yoruba until about 500 years ago, SO DID THE YORUBA'S MEET THE PORTUGUESE, GET CORN FROM THEM, QUICKLY SPREAD IT ALL OVER THEIR PEOPLE AND CULTURE WITH LIGHTNING SPEED, AND THEN CHANGE THEIR SACRED VERSES TO INCLUDED REFERENCES TO CORN ALL OVER IT??!! The thought is absurd, clearly West Africans had corn and many other Central/South American staple foods and other things long before Columbus, just like the Central/South Americans had many African things long before Columbus BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TRADING WITH EACH OTHER FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, which we already knew from the Olmec evidence, BUT NOBODY SEEMS TO BE EXPLORING THIS!!! Whoever is in this field GET ON IT!!!
@desk429
@desk429 Жыл бұрын
There were 5 different Groups of MECs what were their names since you act like you know what you are talking about.
@broq9194
@broq9194 Жыл бұрын
@@desk429 First of all, check your tone. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Are you trying to quiz me or something? How childish and stupid. I don't argue with children. Take your BS nonsense somewhere else, and either provide some knowledge, make a relevant comment, or go do your homework and stay out of grown folks conversation. Have a very nice day.
@uncannytheos2454
@uncannytheos2454 Жыл бұрын
​@@desk429 he knows more then you. Why not just take the knowledge in instead of come off like an anti-black white supremacists
@karine-ela
@karine-ela Жыл бұрын
Not just the mandinkas
@chillitopo2420
@chillitopo2420 Жыл бұрын
As a Yoruba man & a descendant of Ogun! What you said about corn been eulogised in Odu IFA really shows how deep you’re my brother. Peace & Blessings
@marvelouslukpata5345
@marvelouslukpata5345 Жыл бұрын
Love ur videos always appreciate them sometime I just watch ur contents and feel happy thank you
@dablaccseaproductions5279
@dablaccseaproductions5279 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Robin Walker
@wildflower7925
@wildflower7925 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to have longer content, its very educational, refreshing unlike the mainstream brainwashing that people take as the gospel.😊
@ademiju_ade
@ademiju_ade Жыл бұрын
I am also curious if the Yorubas had contact with the Roman Empire
@ayodelebadmus6822
@ayodelebadmus6822 Жыл бұрын
Nope.😁
@dkonfleek1362
@dkonfleek1362 Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe so because the Yoruba people were truly founded in the 8th century ce, which was way later than even when the western Roman Empire fell
@Ergamenes79
@Ergamenes79 Жыл бұрын
Well, the Romans did led several expeditions into Western Africa, so that is possible.
@davidogundipe808
@davidogundipe808 Жыл бұрын
​@@dkonfleek1362what source told you, that the Yorubas were founded in 8century ce.
@andysawyer647
@andysawyer647 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ergamenes79they found the Twa people when they visited the area. The Nok were probably a group similar to the pygmies.
@niobisinopa6413
@niobisinopa6413 Жыл бұрын
Oki, Piikani here, Quechua of Tawantinsuyu and Taino of Boriken. While there existed and pre-existed contact with foreign people, trade and commerce between our continent and the like. There also existed an extensive inter-continental trade network throughout the continent. And neither codex nor oral tradition established in this period speaks of African presence here, and in particular the garnering and exchange of something as fundamental as maize, prior to 1492. Including that of what has been so erroneously defined as Hispaniola. Which is where Columbus first (and lastly) set afoot his presence. Not in what has been recast as the “New world.” There was extensive trade between the caribbean coastal, central and south by way of andean and amazonian venture. As well as coastal floridian peoples. Who brought along with them and exchanged for maize through aforementioned trade relations. However maize was limited to the highlands of our empire. Through commerce and exchange with (unlimited to) the Purepecha people, as well as the Nahua alliance because of its sustainable nature and economic value. Ie.it was not cultivated to be a staple grain for us beyond that introduction. However the trading network was of course unlimited to the exchange of maize and was a precursor to longstanding relationships. That is to say, it is boldly implausible that this was the case.
@omnipotent9515
@omnipotent9515 Жыл бұрын
In the story of obatyal by the yoruba they say they was in a place called tola. Theirs a place called tola in peru where the toltecs stayed.
@ynotlearn4190
@ynotlearn4190 Жыл бұрын
Short answer is NO!
@PFResearch
@PFResearch Жыл бұрын
Yoruba is connected to ols Americans who can trace back to when Mecca was first established. Mecca us the first international advanced city in the world. We call those people Moslem and Moorish Americans, Maroons,Creeks. The language is clear cut on who these people were but some refuse to teach the Islamic period of dominance from 625CE to 1492.CE
@rafiqjennings5262
@rafiqjennings5262 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what explanations they have for the Olmec heads in Mexico? 🤔
@christiandaugherty6339
@christiandaugherty6339 Жыл бұрын
They look exactly like modern day Mexicans from that area, who aren't black?
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
Plenty research on them they weren't African. Other people's can have flat noses and full lips.
@rafiqjennings5262
@rafiqjennings5262 Жыл бұрын
@@soda8736 You’re right. I did not know this. I wonder how all the pro-Blacks coped with the news? 🤔😏
@adeamujale
@adeamujale Жыл бұрын
The Mande people are credited with the Olmec civilisation.
@adeamujale
@adeamujale Жыл бұрын
​@@soda8736 Simiar to all the other continents, African people are the first to populate and inhabit the Americas.
@ukrays7668
@ukrays7668 Жыл бұрын
Love your content and videos 👊🏿🖤
@nupc717
@nupc717 Жыл бұрын
nobody watching a 2 min ad something must be done
@MelMelMelDrMEL
@MelMelMelDrMEL Жыл бұрын
I think so
@binder946
@binder946 Жыл бұрын
They just want to give them the right to even imagine that it was possible.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Жыл бұрын
If Native Oceanians that had lesser seafaring technology then Sub Saharan Africans could pull it off particularly Polynesians then West Africans should have no trouble yeah.
@jamescorvus6709
@jamescorvus6709 Жыл бұрын
There needs to be more evidence of that because Our Ancestors could have used another plant or a tool to make those patterns and its incrediblely presumptuous to make the claim that it is corn when a fabricated tool can do the same. Also this was pottery shards that they used so have they found mostly intact pottery with the same patterns?
@aqoxwixo
@aqoxwixo Жыл бұрын
Agreed but still an interesting theory nonetheless
@jamescorvus6709
@jamescorvus6709 Жыл бұрын
@@aqoxwixo same, but its possible that corn could have got there through the ocean taking it to there. Corn can grow on sand in the right conditions
@tyiingram9878
@tyiingram9878 Жыл бұрын
It’s also incredibly presumptuous and very limiting to believe that our ancestors in the Americas and our ancestors on in Africa were ever disconnected from each other once the single land mass separated to form the Americas and Africa. One of the amazing pieces of evidence that speaks to this connection can be seen in the helmets that the Olmec have depicted themselves wearing. This helmet has also been used in depictions of our Nigerians ancestors that was a symbol of the ruling class.
@jamescorvus6709
@jamescorvus6709 Жыл бұрын
@@tyiingram9878 That's Presumptuous to assume that one group of people have a certain thing that is similar because they got it from another group of People, If maize got to West Africa before the Portuguese, a bird dropped it off or the Ocean did. just like with the Calabash Tree. The Earth moves in cycles. Our Ancestors didn't have to go meet up with no one. I think this gets around because some of us (Not Me) feel that Our Ancestors can only be great if they did something before or comparable to a European. Our Ancestors were in their own world and traded with many different people that looked like them and did not look like them. We didn't have to go to the Americas to get Maize if it shows up before the Portuguese. The Aiye/ Asase/ Uwa/Earth got us.
@tyiingram9878
@tyiingram9878 Жыл бұрын
@@jamescorvus6709 bro think for a moment about what you’re saying. The topography clearly shows that in earlier epochs the Americas and Africa were joined. We also understand that we are the first people of the planet and the developers of agriculture. Now, let’s also understand that mazie is not a natural crop, but it is genetically engineered by our ancestors. Who are these other people you’re referring to? Who’s in competition with White Europeans when it was the Black Europeans who civilized them. Brother are you aware that there Black Americans are really ingenious to this land and that we(all black people on every continent) ruled the planet in a highly evolved, and technologically advanced super civilization the ancient world referred to as Atlantis. I
@Kall_Mii_Kemo
@Kall_Mii_Kemo Жыл бұрын
Albakari the 2nd told mansa Musa that he heard his ancestors came from across the Atlantic. which says to mii, that it is more than possible they had contact. Kemetian mummies have evidence of consuming plant life from the Americas. A youtuber (cant remember whom) suggests that the bird creature in sumer is holding maize and not a pinecone or what ever he/it is holding.
@bgrayson6073
@bgrayson6073 Жыл бұрын
This title alone sits well with my soul.
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
Well its pseudo
@lifeismusikmusikislife4684
@lifeismusikmusikislife4684 Жыл бұрын
In terms of the theory of Arab introduction of maize to West Africa: Were they introduced to maize before the Columbian Exchange? If so how? Because the Columbian Exchange started in the 15th century and maize found in Ifa was dated to 1100, so how could Arabs have introduced maize at that time if they weren't yet introduced to it themselves?
@SAOS451316
@SAOS451316 Жыл бұрын
There is another possibility. It could be that domesticated maize from the Americas floated over and took root in Africa. Coconuts do it and various small animals like spiders and rodents made their way across the Atlantic on natural rafts created by storms. Or perhaps the Yoruba domesticated their own grain that looks similar to corn that got supplanted by maize in later centuries. Unless sherds were found, securely dated, that came from the other side of the ocean or there were human remains belonging to one group in the other land from before the 15th century it would be hard to convince the broader archaeological community of contact. It's still very possible, but more evidence is required.
@ptolemeeselenion1542
@ptolemeeselenion1542 Жыл бұрын
If that is the case, then why Yoruba oral traditions and astronavigation holds account of the _exact location_ said maize does originate from?? Didn't think this through, blimey.
@sanyaogunjobi737
@sanyaogunjobi737 Жыл бұрын
@SAOS451316, yoruba people have been growing maize for centuries even before Colombus was born. Ile Ife is an ancient city even before the name Yoruba was carved to describe the people of southwestern Nigeria. Mays is our daily meal and it is native to our people. I believe it is revise of what you are saying. It could have found its way to the America via the Atlantic or taken there by the early sailors from Africa.
@tyiingram9878
@tyiingram9878 Жыл бұрын
The evidence is there. They’re not being honest about it
@stillstillstill4607
@stillstillstill4607 Жыл бұрын
Possible, but the Atlantic ocean currents don't favor that theory unless it floated from South America.
@ptolemeeselenion1542
@ptolemeeselenion1542 Жыл бұрын
@@sanyaogunjobi737 Ile Ife is not even in Nigeria. It's simply a composite mythical kingdom assembling history and myths from ancient and medieval Nubia (Kush, Alodia, Nobatia and Dongola) and the land of Yam/Negritia or Nok Culture, from which the ancestors of Yoruba royalty descends from. My guess is that, at some point in history around 300 BCE to 900 CE, a royal or aristocratic bloodline of Pan-Sahelian descent connected to the Nile valley kingdoms and to the Nok Culture migrated westward and southward in a migratort pattern reminiscent of the Hausa people and other Afro-Asiatic speaking ethnic groups now settled in present-day Nigeria, Chad and Niger, intermarried with the common ancestors of all Kwa-speaking and so-called East Kwa/proto-Yoruboid/Volta-Niger/West Benue-Congo speaking people alike (or so-called Defoid speaking populations) during the African Iron Age-- giving birth to the Yoruba, Igbo, Akan, Kwa-speaking and other alike royalties living in the region of Eastern Guinea, then that at some point around the last quarter of the Ist millenium CE to 12th century CE, the Yorubas began to splice apart from the lot as a distinct ethnolinguistic polity and to found kingdoms all over Eastern Guinea starting 900s CE due to significant climatic changes and political upheavals all across the Sudano-Sahelian region caused by the drought of the Lake Chad, the expansion of concurrent Sudanian and Saharian kingdoms, the economic downfall of Nubia and its polities (mostly caused by the further desertification of Sahara in Sudan) by the 500s CE, the Arab invasions of Egypt and Nubia by the VIIIth century CE and at last the uprise of Empress Gudit and of her Zagwē Havilah Dynasty in Abyssinia followed next by a period of Abyssinian expansionism back to East Africa and Central Africa, causing numerous Alodian and Dongolian princes and clans to migrate into regions tropical Africa yet unoccupied by Gudit (such as the Central African Shenzi Chwezi Empire of Kitara, its Zanguestan/Zanguebar/"Swahili States" province and South-Central Africa) and West Sudan.
@BlackAladdin_
@BlackAladdin_ Жыл бұрын
The yoruba wasn't the first either. Egyptian relics were found in the grand canyon and egypt ohio decades ago.... A native chief had sumerian text with him in his grave.... the Aztecs stated that the person that brought them wisdom and goods came from the east on the back of a serpent (ironically alot of boats have them on the front tip
@luvdaroc
@luvdaroc Жыл бұрын
From the jet stream patterns between Africa and the Americas in the Atlantic -- the SAME patterns the hurricanes follow -- this isn't just hypothetical. Africa has an influence in south America, though the evidence has been destroyed in the North America continent because of deep seated racism.
@byrondavis3507
@byrondavis3507 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@whoahna8438
@whoahna8438 Жыл бұрын
Mansa Musa never mentioned the Americas and he never said they sailed "across" the Atlantic.
@BobbyBruce03
@BobbyBruce03 Жыл бұрын
Oh they did waaay before the Viking era
@darkdragonnasir
@darkdragonnasir Жыл бұрын
y aren't images of the artifacts open to the public? western academy gatekeeps info
@loveandloyaltytotruth
@loveandloyaltytotruth Жыл бұрын
It's possible considering an Olmec head that's a giant replica of Ife brass head.
@icu4life240
@icu4life240 Жыл бұрын
He should discuss the name Olmec and why were they called the rubber people when the rubber plant is indigenous to Africa. Also no mention of the African gold speir tips found by Columbus. And most important the hight culture that the Olmecs gave to Mezo-America.
@skaldlouiscyphre2453
@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Жыл бұрын
Senor Xt'Tapalatakettle?
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Жыл бұрын
Brass is metal not stone. Also they physically look different
@loveandloyaltytotruth
@loveandloyaltytotruth Жыл бұрын
@@saratmodugu2721 so you wouldn't recognise yourself expressed in different mediums such as brass, terracotta, stone, rubber or even plastic?
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Жыл бұрын
@@loveandloyaltytotruth I wouldn’t recognize myself if I decided to make another person’s face. Those olmec busts’s jaws and headdress look nothing alike
@BigBen1994
@BigBen1994 Жыл бұрын
We definitely did
@omoluabiorishaluabi
@omoluabiorishaluabi Жыл бұрын
The ancient people definitely contact one another...they are not stupid as we are made to understand. They have the same brains we have today and they can solve their problems in their own way. The idea of confining people to there geographical area by contemporary academics is stupid.
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
Yes but there is no evidence just theories
@omoluabiorishaluabi
@omoluabiorishaluabi Жыл бұрын
@soda8736 that's ignorance. As people move today they have always move. If you are looking for evidence just look at how people move around today for different reasons. The ancient aren't moving around because they want future generations to know they move...why should they bother about leaving you evidence. It's just natural. Birds migrate, fishes move around in the ocean and animals migrate...humans are no different yesterday, today and in the future. What stupid evidence but common sense.
@baseupp12
@baseupp12 Жыл бұрын
No it's stupid thinking that there were no limitations people had
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
@@baseupp12 like said evidence is needed not theories. Some people stay isolated for long periods of time . Look at the native Australians. It similar to parts of Africa that was land locked from the rest of the world for various geographical reasons like the Sahara that's why North Africa has been more advanced because of the ability to trade and share ideas with the rest of the world..
@baseupp12
@baseupp12 Жыл бұрын
@@soda8736 I know I agree people put to much faith in theories like this instead of actual evidence
@daviousking3828
@daviousking3828 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@JM-zt1qj
@JM-zt1qj 3 ай бұрын
No
@williammorrill946
@williammorrill946 4 ай бұрын
Short answer, no.
@gadeyeye6268
@gadeyeye6268 Жыл бұрын
The only link between Yoruba religion similarities to neteru worship in ancient Egypt, and American Corn, Is Orunmilla/ Quetzalcoatl/ Thoth/ Ningishzida and he probably went with the Olmecs who look very west African, after they left Kemet and Atlantis in Mauritania. Ijs my opinion from studying.
@tyiingram9878
@tyiingram9878 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Atlantis was a global civilization. We should also consider that the planet as we know it today hasn’t always existed. There are continents that are only islands, and islands that have become continents. We’re witnessing planetary changes that will change the appearance of the planet. I wholeheartedly agree with you.
@andysawyer647
@andysawyer647 Жыл бұрын
​@@tyiingram9878I have seen it argued that the Azor's were Atlantis.
@tyiingram9878
@tyiingram9878 Жыл бұрын
@@andysawyer647 the best way to describe Atlantis is to reference the British Empire. It was a global civilization who’s power seat rested in London.
@401Orishas
@401Orishas Жыл бұрын
Oduduwa's father Lamurudu was an emperor Egyptian/Ethiopian.
@russelldavis8415
@russelldavis8415 Жыл бұрын
I have a problem with the idea Africans ventured across the ocean to the Americas. Back in the day Ancient Greek, Roman, Egyptian times EVERYONE without exception when they set sail, followed the coastline so as not to get lost at sea. With that said, why is there no record of them venturing north into the med and up to the English Channel to trade???? Has ANYONE replicated just one of their alleged sailing ships, let alone put them to sea to PROVE a point? Somehow, I am to believe they supposed to have ignored common rule of following land mass, but rather set sail across a vast ocean with no compass, little or no knowledge of astronomy yet to be established, I have no doubt that native Africans were aboard European sailing ships in those early days, there may even have been a few black people on some of the early Viking voyages, as they were known to have traded in the med and could easily have bought slaves to take back home.
@dablaccseaproductions5279
@dablaccseaproductions5279 7 ай бұрын
You lost me when u said little or no knowledge of astronomy established… You gotta look deeper into the sciences that these African tribes knew.
@donmilland7606
@donmilland7606 Жыл бұрын
Abubakari (?,) Mali Empire arrived in what's known as Brazil in 1312.
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
No proof sorry
@jjw56
@jjw56 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Dr Henry gates mention this in pbs African series? I thought he saw the corn cob sidewalks. I’m I wrong?
@kukurukudaydanbreak2040
@kukurukudaydanbreak2040 Ай бұрын
Yoruba language wasn’t spoken around that time of Christopher Columbus because Yoruba language started later on with Oyo kingdom
@missjuneplum1
@missjuneplum1 Жыл бұрын
This is what I believe! During the Pangaean period, both Africa and South America were joined together. Both continents shared the same Landmass, animals, vegetation etc. When the separation/split occurred, maize was one the crops that ended up in South America. Nothing to do with Christopher Columbus.
@MrK-wu7ci
@MrK-wu7ci Жыл бұрын
(NIH) Presence of pre-Columbian maize in the Old World--an overview Masao Uchibayashi 1 PMID: 16755129 DOI: 10.1248/yakushi.126.423 "Abstract" "An overview is presented on the reports available so far on pre-Columbian maize covering the regions of India, Mideast, Africa and Iberia. Frequent observations of maize recorded in the past on the East and the West Coast of Africa and at the ports in the Mideast show that *maize was one of the staples of the natives well before 1492* . It is also evident that *maize in the West Africa was disseminated to Iberia and Lombardy* in the *pre-Columbian* time. An *earlier contact between the Old and the New World is strongly suggested* ."
@DogofRaw
@DogofRaw Жыл бұрын
the Bible speaks about corn in the story of Joseph in Egypt. I've sayin this for years. They also found cocaine in mummies .
@toreq1127
@toreq1127 Жыл бұрын
is platformic this history channel tier pseudohistotry really going to improve public knowledge and awareness of african history?
@FLYSTARTVLONDON
@FLYSTARTVLONDON Жыл бұрын
Prester John would have made contact with the African a diaspora. In the 1700’s definitely via letter ✉️ or personal travel 🧳 definition we been making boats in middle America the Caribbean for thousands of years ❤️💛💚🖤🛶🪘🏹
@thoseofuswithheart9407
@thoseofuswithheart9407 Жыл бұрын
I think contact either one way or the other was highly likely. It ridiculous tho think that Aboriginal Americans could not travel to Afrika or the Yoruba did not visit the Americas. IJS✨🏹
@ptolemeeselenion1542
@ptolemeeselenion1542 Жыл бұрын
Various accounts, legends and astronavigation reports attests evidence of contacts and exchanges made between Pre-Columbian America and various West African and Central African polities in medieval times, mayhaps going as far as in antiquity, if not in prehistory.
@ThePawcios
@ThePawcios Жыл бұрын
What accounts exactly? What legends exactly? So far I have not seen any strong argument, just vauge clames as yours :P
@jamalcole1985
@jamalcole1985 11 ай бұрын
2:05
@victormcgowan934
@victormcgowan934 Жыл бұрын
The geographical land mass is one gigantic puzzle. Anyone can see that at one point in time Africa and South America were connected. Duh. I could see that before I started first grade.
@sholaebofin6090
@sholaebofin6090 Жыл бұрын
I wish we would just wake up
@tyiingram9878
@tyiingram9878 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 I mean where the lie. Sometimes the simplest things go over folks heads.
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
That was in the Dinosaur days man
@baseupp12
@baseupp12 Жыл бұрын
Dude they were connected a long long time ago way before the Yoruba even existed
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
@@baseupp12 Panegea -200 million years , Humans- 200 thousand.
@andysawyer647
@andysawyer647 Жыл бұрын
Jollof rice proves pre-Columbian contact. Without tomatoes its not Jollof rice
@proverbalizer
@proverbalizer Жыл бұрын
That would be relevant if you ate Jollof rice with Yoruba people in 1392.
@andysawyer647
@andysawyer647 Жыл бұрын
@proverbalizer lol not the same people. The concept of Yoruba was not around at that point. It came from the corruption of the Arabic words for the Sudan. At that point, the area was called Edo.
@proverbalizer
@proverbalizer Жыл бұрын
@@andysawyer647 umm, no Yoruba does not come from Arabic. But there is debate about the origin of that word. And no the area was never called Edo, Edo is the name/language of another people from the Benin Kindom to the East of Yorubaland. Yoruba speaking people were previously identified with their kibdgoms/specific dialects of Yoruba such, Ọ̀yọ́, Ifẹ̀, Iléṣà etc. But anyway, were you eating rice with Edo people in the year 1300 to verify that it contained tomato? Unless you find some fossilized Jollof rice containing tomatoes from way back then, it doesn't prove anything...(plus despite the Ghana/Nigeria debate, Jollof rice likely comes from Wollof people anyway...our major traditonal staple food in Nigeria is really Yam) Also, there is no Yoruba word for "tomato" (some people say "tomati" the same way we say "buredi" and "miliki") which is a clear red flag that it's not among our ancient traditional foods
@andysawyer647
@andysawyer647 Жыл бұрын
@proverbalizer what are you not getting that Jollof rice came from the Jollof empire on the coast where Sengal and Gambia are?
@andysawyer647
@andysawyer647 Жыл бұрын
@@proverbalizer also great translations for the pronunciation.
@olarenwajufalusi4979
@olarenwajufalusi4979 4 ай бұрын
The mDNA tells the story of the lingest surviving human species.. Cheers to learning & skin colors and languages of many tongues from the origin
@peace4447
@peace4447 Жыл бұрын
👏🏾
@cliff32cr
@cliff32cr Жыл бұрын
Study the Olmecs.
@curiouskid1547
@curiouskid1547 7 ай бұрын
You guys could not discover Madagascar before indonesians. And here you are claiming to be nation builders.
@fromabove422
@fromabove422 Ай бұрын
The oldest boat in Africa was discovered in Nigeria
@calmwithchrist
@calmwithchrist Жыл бұрын
Forget about Columbus European contact with the Americas occurred in North America, when the Vikings established a settlement in Newfoundland on the east coast of Canada around 1000 A.D. explorer Leif Erikson, son of Erik the Red Norse explorer Nearly 500 years before the birth of Christopher Columbus,
@christiandaugherty6339
@christiandaugherty6339 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that didn't result in the establishing of long-term trade networks between the continents. Columbus' did, and that's why he's historically significant.
@calmwithchrist
@calmwithchrist Жыл бұрын
@@christiandaugherty6339 I know I'm just saying that Columbus was not the first European to reach the Americas also the long-term Trade Network happened way after that and it wasn't because of the Vikings
@FreedomBiafra
@FreedomBiafra Жыл бұрын
Highly unlikely, we need to stop these narratives
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
It's sad , Native Americans people aren't obsessed with saying they went to Europe or Africa.
@Marie-ys7dl
@Marie-ys7dl Жыл бұрын
@@soda8736it’s a theory, relax.
@soda8736
@soda8736 11 ай бұрын
@@Marie-ys7dl you most not know it more than theory, more amd more people believe this and its actually diserectful to the Native Americans and the Africans that were enslaved , because some these nuts say the slave trade didn't happen its all some conspiracy , also there isn't rally one spread of evidence so what the he'll is the theory . Irs all been debunked in 70s or whenever that pseudo book came out. And it makes black Americans look dumb.
@wisdommasterreviews4712
@wisdommasterreviews4712 Жыл бұрын
Africans were Moors they traded with Black Aboriginals before the Turks came with the Anglos!
@pforiginallordofcrickets7703
@pforiginallordofcrickets7703 Жыл бұрын
Africans are not Moors. African means ivory kin. White kaners. Moors are Asiatic westerners. Mahgribi. They are Americans. Black aboriginal is a myth. Americans are Moors. The rest of you are grifters trying to replace Moorish Americans.
@Kath3rine2063
@Kath3rine2063 Жыл бұрын
Black people is one big family. Most of blacks Americans are indigenous to the Americas. My mom side dates back to 1845 before the emacipation proclamation. My mom side was Blackfoot Indian and my dad side was Cherokee. I dated His side as far back as 1832. I paper trail my family records. We own land in parts of Louisiana and Oklahoma. Osiyo everyone
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
If what you said was true which it's not then these so called black people would be some of the dumbest weakest people in history . To be enslaved on they're own land and not even know they were from here. At least we have many documented wars with real Native Americans, there is no documented war vs a group of indegengous blacks.. Any Native American you have in your family is due to African runaway slaves living with Native tribes or being slaves of Native Tribes.
@MansaBoogLive
@MansaBoogLive Жыл бұрын
You’re a clown if you believe that. You are an AFRICAN. Look in the mirror. You ARE NOT Indian. @kath
@tyiingram9878
@tyiingram9878 Жыл бұрын
The story of us is older and more complex than we will ever be able to historically understand. We must first understand that the topography of the planet has changed dramatically over countless ions, and that climatic changes and environmental disasters makes it difficult to definitively state that African civilization is older than the American civilization. We can be certain that there was a time in our planet’s history and our collective history, where the Americans and Africa were connected. If we’re the first people of earth it would be reasonable to conclude that our ancestors were never disconnected, but in fact continued to exist as a highly advanced global civilization. The existence of pyramidal structures found globally are indicators that let us know our ancestors were there. The United States Government has practiced selective mutism when informing the public of what’s in the Grand Canyon. The government location the existence of pyramids, and Egyptian temples artifacts and other historical oop arts. The connection our ancestors had between the two continents is apparent in the names Utah and Hopi. Utah is derived from the name of the Egyptian god Ptah and the Hopi have named themselves so in honor of the goddess Hapi. The God Bastet is in the center of the Mayan calendar. While in Egypt, many of the deities’s animal totem are native to the Americas. Take for example Anubis who’s an Xoloitzcuintle dog of Mexico. My ancestors are indigenous to the Americas, but we are connected with the Yoruba who are our kin across the water. Ifa is our connection and it was through the practice that the ancestors spilled and tea 😂😂
@lordmoff1231
@lordmoff1231 Жыл бұрын
You do realize that Pangea broke away even before the dinosaurs became the dominant Species on Earth? Are you speaking about our collective history as cynodonts? Oh, and try to build a tall building with Stone Age technology and you will find that the only feasible way is building a Pyramid.
@tyiingram9878
@tyiingram9878 Жыл бұрын
@@lordmoff1231 dude you do realize that there are 2 billion year old foot prints found in South Africa. There are also ooparts and artifacts that challenge the dates you all love to lean on. I stand by what I said.
@tyiingram9878
@tyiingram9878 Жыл бұрын
@@lordmoff1231 there is also proof that there were indeed electric devices being used in antiquity, furthermore the construction and use of pyramids in antiquity proves that these structures were power generators. Modern engineering techniques are not even close to the technology advances in the past. Don’t believe me, study the Vadas.
@Think1stMedia
@Think1stMedia Жыл бұрын
It doesnt matter if Yoruba came here first or not. I'm shocked this video missed one huge undeniable easily verifiable fact. When Columbus came her, they were told by the natives that Black People come from across the sea and traded with them. This was documented by Columbus crew and still available today. We dont know what tribe it was but we know there was contact with Black People before Columbus. And what's amazing is was verified by Columbus himself. Not to mention, Eric the Red came before Columbus as well, but that's another story. Again, whether it was the Yoruba or not doesn't matter. But it was Black Africans. It's already documented in history. There is no need for a senseless debate about it.
@ThePawcios
@ThePawcios Жыл бұрын
Where is it documented? Do you have any proof? Publication?
@Think1stMedia
@Think1stMedia Жыл бұрын
@ThePawcios documentary, lol. It's called paying attention in history class. You don't know who Eric the Red was??? Documentary, you didn't know that the Native Americans told Columbus that Black People came here? When I was in school 🏫 we didn't need documentaries, it was called history class. This was 8th grade history. Taught to millions. You never knew that??? Everything doesn't need to be a documentary lol OMG this generation smh 🤦 Go to YOUR LIBRARY ask about books about Columbus and READ IT FOR YOURSELF. Also in Spanish history the documents are still preserved. There was never a debate about this. Wow
@Think1stMedia
@Think1stMedia Жыл бұрын
@@ThePawcios )
@ThePawcios
@ThePawcios Жыл бұрын
@@Think1stMedia First of all you have to back to school and learn to read. I didn't asked for documentary, I asked where it is DOCUMENTED? Do you know what is it scientific publication? The fact that someone told you in school is not an evidence :P Show me the proof that native americans traded with africans.
@lordmoff1231
@lordmoff1231 Жыл бұрын
@@Think1stMedia The question was not if there is a "documentary" but if you could provide some documentation to the statement that columbus was told about Black People in the Americas. I read books about the Columbian Voyage and exchange but never saw this mentioned. Do you have a paper or book where this is referenced?
@mojothemaster
@mojothemaster Жыл бұрын
yes. the whole planet was one before the thxgvng betrayal
@8figgaloke
@8figgaloke 8 ай бұрын
Its obvious the Inca, Maya, Aztec, and Olmecs had similarities to ancient Africa look at the anthropology pyramids the crazy respect for nature
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng Жыл бұрын
Any African contact with the Americas before Colombus makes slavery that much worse because where were they during Western slavery?
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
They weren't here. It's simple
@youmbal25
@youmbal25 Жыл бұрын
Of course Africans discover America before Columbus everyone knows that for many years..in fact What they call America today the original name was Tarana given by local people who were living there before before Africans arrived there far-away before colonial Europeans arrived and changed significantly things of that land ( called Tarana)
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Жыл бұрын
In every Native American language?
@diaquitaquita8984
@diaquitaquita8984 Жыл бұрын
🌍
@deneilwilliams4380
@deneilwilliams4380 Жыл бұрын
Is that where Ellaville Ga. gets it's name? My people are clearly Yoruba and not from America. Our roots go back to Guinea-Bissau which is not far from Nigeria. Colonial powers divided Africa which means Guinea-Bissau was probably a part of the Nigerian empire at one time.
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Жыл бұрын
Many slaves in colonial America joined with fellow Africans to recreate their ethnic groups like in the Carolinas
@pauloclavero184
@pauloclavero184 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🌻. When looking at a map you can see the distance from South America, let’s say Guyana or the old/New Dutch/ Holland, call it what you want?? From there to the most western most tip of Africa , the distance is doable and we give our Ancestors far too little credit, evidence is there and partially distroyed but Genetic’s will proves it and the scientists know it.. In my family alone we represent many parts of the world, from dark skin to white all under one house.. Freedom is here if you believe in truth and facts. OneFamilyTrEE.❤
@jamaaldaynitelong8367
@jamaaldaynitelong8367 Жыл бұрын
How did Native Americans and Africans have the ability to navigate the Atlantic yet lose it so quickly...And maize is all we got?
@icu4life240
@icu4life240 Жыл бұрын
They got more than maize they got rubber, calabash and a unexplained culture.
@jamaaldaynitelong8367
@jamaaldaynitelong8367 Жыл бұрын
@@icu4life240 You can explain the culture and rubber..I'm waiting for an acceptable, reasonable theory as to how they got there and couldn't get back.
@401Orishas
@401Orishas Жыл бұрын
Ships were found in the ocean that predates Columbus as we know it. Majority of those Afeicans were navigators by nature and thousands of years later Columbus met with them to help navigate the Americas
@jamaaldaynitelong8367
@jamaaldaynitelong8367 Жыл бұрын
@@401Orishas But the question of how they had the technology to sail and ship build and lose it not long after? And what the evidence that the ship belong to them...Is there an equivalent on the continent to compare it with?
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Жыл бұрын
Clearly you’ve never heard of Portuguese colonial history. Also, ife was replaced by Benin who reached the coast by the time the Portuguese came, therefore Ife sailors would not waste their time
@user-gs1lz2pw9v
@user-gs1lz2pw9v Жыл бұрын
You controlled opposition
@geraldhardy4257
@geraldhardy4257 Жыл бұрын
No...but KILROY did
@jamescorvus6709
@jamescorvus6709 Жыл бұрын
But i have another idea. What if the maize plant got to the western coast of Africa through ocean drift of seeds that took root in Africa. Then Our Ancestors would have the maize before the Portuguese.
@hometeamhistory806
@hometeamhistory806 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting point
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 Жыл бұрын
It would not survive the beach or the sea salt
@jamescorvus6709
@jamescorvus6709 Жыл бұрын
@@saratmodugu2721maize can grow on the beach. If there are fish or another source of nitrogen then it will grow in sand or sandy soil
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Жыл бұрын
There should be a distinction or measure made between The Americas And The Arctiv because within The Americas that is where the Amerindians reside and are Native to but in The Arctic it belongs to The Eskimos And Aleuts who at times had some conflicts, troubles, issues, problems, tensions, or hazards with The American Indians to there South way before Western European show ups, Now as far as Sub Saharan Africans finding the New World it is likely that The Malians Or Ghanians at least did in The Southernmost regions of The Americas due to some stories, tales, tellings, or signs as during the 1300s CE yeah.
@draconian8994
@draconian8994 Жыл бұрын
Lots of lies to make some people feel good. Yorubas never visited any part of America till slavers brought them there.
@musicearthtoheaven8793
@musicearthtoheaven8793 Жыл бұрын
The evidence is there. There is just too many things undisclosed. Corn is nothing new to Yoruba people, it's used for different foods that they have been eating since time immemorial. It's not Portuguese that's now going to introduce corn to Yoruba people for akamu (ogi eko), ekuru, ewa ati agbado, etc. Infact, in the etymology of the Yoruba word for corn is where you will find the meaning and history.
@joshuaj.chinda9873
@joshuaj.chinda9873 Жыл бұрын
No! they did not. They couldn't have gotten out of the regions of West Africa. They did not have access to ships but canoes.
@carbon6951
@carbon6951 Жыл бұрын
A white dude recently made an old style West African boat and sailed from West Africa to the Americas.. Also, a Brazilian archaeologist stated 5 West African fisherman went out fishing to far off the coast on their tiny boat and was caught in a current.. 3 weeks later they arrived on the coast of Brazil.. So, it's already been proven you don't need a huge ship to make the voyage.
@joshuaj.chinda9873
@joshuaj.chinda9873 Жыл бұрын
@@carbon6951 Stop comparing then to now. They never left West Africa. What would have taken common fisherman to the far coast. Lmaoo.
@carbon6951
@carbon6951 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuaj.chinda9873 Your comment made "ZERO" sense, and didn't disprove a word I said.. SMH
@joshuaj.chinda9873
@joshuaj.chinda9873 Жыл бұрын
@@carbon6951 If you really believe that an African fisherman made a sail to Brazil with a canoe in the 18th or 19th century unknowling, then you're one of the biggest "IDIOTS" to walk the earth.😂😂😂 No human can use a Canoe to sail to another continent unless he has a map and a compass to guide him. Not to talk abt the fact that sea waves and currents will knock you out with that tiny canoe. Which mortal human on earth can paddle for days not to talk of months on an endless sea.😂😂😂 You don't even have strong evidence to support your claim. Reading too much fantasy stories doesn't make you clever.😂 "A white man did it." You forgot people edit for views. (Movie Magic). "An African man went to Brazil with a canoe". Lies told by Archeologists to garner media interest. You lack brain experience as you're extremely gullible to unproven facts regarding historical accuracies. I'm sure Someone like you will believe Yeti's, Aliens, and bigfoot actually exists. Your misinformed comment has to be one of the dumbest comments of the year.🏆😂😂
@brownsmith799
@brownsmith799 Жыл бұрын
Ever heard about Thor Heyerdahl. The boats on Lake Chad, which are very ancient cannot be capsized and are excellent for crossing the Atlantic.
@adelakinagbonbioka2696
@adelakinagbonbioka2696 Жыл бұрын
If anyone is saying that the capitol of Ile Ife was moved to Oyo, it proves they know nothing about Yoruba history or culture. It proves they didn't consult Yoruba scholars, nor Yoruba babalawos. They are doing the same thing that hoteppers do, which is fail to actually engage with the scholarly tradition BEFORE they talk about it.
@coollikethat2691
@coollikethat2691 Жыл бұрын
How does dude get on Netflix, telling lies like Africa wasn't black people and you gotta stay on KZfaq?
@nuqjatrh
@nuqjatrh Жыл бұрын
Indigenous Americans were good navigators across the seas 🌊 from my understanding
@soda8736
@soda8736 Жыл бұрын
Black people scared of water now. . They didn't go pass the coast.
@nuqjatrh
@nuqjatrh Жыл бұрын
@@soda8736 I see..
@astutepercipient7077
@astutepercipient7077 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching a documentary about the Vikings voyage to the America's and the guy saying it doesn't matter if it true or not let's just put the theory in their minds anyway and now today people believe it's fact
@SaintFort
@SaintFort Жыл бұрын
This channel is utterly ridiculous.
@ThaSound
@ThaSound Жыл бұрын
Crips and Bloods were even in America before Columbus.
@WIXNGFRMLUVOKC
@WIXNGFRMLUVOKC Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 lol😅🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️💀💀💀🤙🏾😎
@shighisumayya3045
@shighisumayya3045 Ай бұрын
You are still narrating from a Western perspective. I don't know how to describe your narrative,there is something you need to switch in your narrative.
@Kiki-en9vm
@Kiki-en9vm Жыл бұрын
Useless story, nothing in any research proves that crap.
@ptolemeeselenion1542
@ptolemeeselenion1542 Жыл бұрын
Ile Ife is not even in Nigeria. It's simply a composite mythical kingdom assembling history and myths from ancient and medieval Nubia (Kush, Alodia, Nobatia and Dongola) and the land of Yam/Negritia or Nok Culture, from which the ancestors of Yoruba royalty descends from. My guess is that, at some point in history around 300 BCE to 900 CE, a royal or aristocratic bloodline of Pan-Sahelian descent connected to the Nile valley kingdoms and to the Nok Culture migrated westward and southward in a migratory pattern reminiscent of the Hausa people and other Afro-Asiatic speaking ethnic groups now settled in present-day Nigeria, Chad and Niger, intermarried with the common ancestors of all Kwa-speaking and so-called East Kwa/proto-Yoruboid/Volta-Niger/West Benue-Congo speaking people alike (or so-called Defoid speaking populations) during the African Iron Age-- giving birth to the Yoruba, Igbo, Akan, Kwa-speaking and other alike royalties living in the region of Eastern Guinea, then that at some point around the last quarter of the Ist millenium CE to 12th century CE, the Yorubas began to splice apart from the lot as a distinct ethnolinguistic polity and to found kingdoms all over Eastern Guinea starting 900s CE due to significant climatic changes and political upheavals all across the Sudano-Sahelian region caused by the drought of the Lake Chad, the expansion of concurrent Sudanian and Saharian kingdoms, the economic downfall of Nubia and its polities (mostly caused by the further desertification of Sahara in Sudan) by the 500s CE, the Arab invasions of Egypt and Nubia by the VIIIth century CE and at last the uprise of Empress Gudit and of her Zagwē Havilah Dynasty in Abyssinia followed next by a period of Abyssinian expansionism back to East Africa and Central Africa, causing numerous Alodian and Dongolian princes and clans to migrate into regions tropical Africa yet unoccupied by Gudit (such as the Central African Shenzi Chwezi Empire of Kitara, its Zanguestan/Zanguebar/"Swahili States" province and South-Central Africa) and West Sudan.
@davidogundipe808
@davidogundipe808 Жыл бұрын
Ife is a city in Kwara state, and was once the capital of the old Oyo empire. You should fact check wherever you got that from.
@LuminousSolitude
@LuminousSolitude Жыл бұрын
​@@davidogundipe808Kwara State or Osun State. Wasn't the capital of old Oyo Empire Oyo Ile?
@davidogundipe808
@davidogundipe808 Жыл бұрын
@@LuminousSolitude Kwara not Osun. After Ife it moved to old Oyo (Ogun State).
@peteralex2813
@peteralex2813 Жыл бұрын
@@davidogundipe808 listen to his context properly bcos he's not really talking about the recent ile_ife kingdom in Osun State Nigeria.
@davidogundipe808
@davidogundipe808 Жыл бұрын
​@@peteralex2813🤦‍♂️ Ife isn't a recent city nor kingdom, he's saying rubbish. I said Kwara state not Osun state, I'm Nigerian and also a Yoruba person, who's versed in my people's history.
@eugenethomas1130
@eugenethomas1130 Жыл бұрын
Pseudo-science BS!
@NYChiphop67
@NYChiphop67 Жыл бұрын
The Yoruba doesn’t exist prior to 1808 proven
@karine-ela
@karine-ela Жыл бұрын
The Yorubas existed prior to 1808
@drstevej2527
@drstevej2527 Жыл бұрын
Meaning nonsense Afrocentric myths.
@roswelarea51
@roswelarea51 Жыл бұрын
All BS.. My great great grands were just who they are, not one African ever said we all are from Africa before the white man's out of Africa theory
@mattnewhouse1781
@mattnewhouse1781 Жыл бұрын
More african centrism, or black supremecy ideaology. If Africa discovered America, we would know. Its better to focus on real accomplishments rather than making stuff up. I dont believe there is any real debate on the subject.
@carbon6951
@carbon6951 Жыл бұрын
Now you're being extremely dishonest.. There's been plenty of NON-Black archaeologists, anthropologists, scholars, historians and authors saying this for over 150 years..
@jamaaldaynitelong8367
@jamaaldaynitelong8367 Жыл бұрын
​@@carbon6951 On a scale of 1-100 where do you rank this theory?
@amsmagicalgardeninsmall1009
@amsmagicalgardeninsmall1009 Жыл бұрын
We traveled everywhere!
@carbon6951
@carbon6951 Жыл бұрын
@@jamaaldaynitelong8367 The thing is, this story is irrelevant in comparison to the tons of other evidence that's out there.
@drstevej2527
@drstevej2527 Жыл бұрын
@@carbon6951 No there are not. Name ONE scholarly body that supports this claim.
@CMac55strt
@CMac55strt Жыл бұрын
Nonsense Yoruba don't sail or have any boats. What maritime history do they have ?
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