Walk through for Honda 650 derestriction (LAMS) CBR650 & CB650R air filter upgrade, Trumpet replacement & intake mod. Join this channel to get access to perks: / @mitchdoescoffee #hondacbr650
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@adrienczajkowski646210 ай бұрын
Man I can’t get over how much those intakes are restricted! But it makes sense now why a 650cc in-line 4 makes so little power from factory
@mitchdoescoffee10 ай бұрын
I agree. I didn't expect so much restriction, but it's a good sign to see how much potential this thing has.
@subhajitsaha33734 ай бұрын
Awesome work guys 😮
@mitchdoescoffee4 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@Noony792 ай бұрын
Derestricted my bike at its first service with a custom tune for my Akro and dna air filter. done 50k on tune and it’s not missed a beat. Will do 115kph in first.
@mitchdoescoffee2 ай бұрын
👍 sick!
@user-kn8gn6zp4oАй бұрын
man you sound like such a cool bloke, great video lads!
@mitchdoescoffeeАй бұрын
😅 I have my moments. Where are you from?
@user-kn8gn6zp4o24 күн бұрын
@@mitchdoescoffee SA mate you?
@mitchdoescoffee24 күн бұрын
Sydney 🥲 hahaha
@Noony792 ай бұрын
You can post your ecu to Dynobike in Melbourne. They will flash it with full power version and post it back. Costs about $500
@mitchdoescoffee2 ай бұрын
I'm not a huge fan of bench tunes. Yes, it's better than nothing... but a detonating engine costs alot more than a custom tune. 😅
@zigmundsmelders92868 ай бұрын
Restriction is for A2 licence (35kW). If you just swap intake “trompets”, it does not changes anything, restricted software remains. ECU flashing required also
@mitchdoescoffee7 ай бұрын
All countries & states have different rules regarding what makes a bike legal etc. But these mods definitely do make the bike more powerful without an ecu tune. 👍
@rangelnz90556 ай бұрын
can you remove with power commander?
@mitchdoescoffee6 ай бұрын
@rangelnz9055 I would assume so.
@noahkammholz18475 ай бұрын
Do you know where do i get the software from?👀
@mitchdoescoffee5 ай бұрын
@@noahkammholz1847 take it to a tuning specialist... it's far cheaper than blowing up your engine. 👍
@mrphoonda5 ай бұрын
2021 CBR 650 R here, exact same process in EU beside it is also electronically restricted, needs ECU Flashing.
@mitchdoescoffee5 ай бұрын
Yes definitely. 🙏
@cuboid_android8 ай бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but did you actually get the check engine light coming up? Or, was it all good?
@mitchdoescoffee8 ай бұрын
No engine light yet, but it definitely would have caused some issues if we kept riding it without a tune.
@TxRedline6 ай бұрын
Because of the accent i thought when he said "in the bin" i was expecting to see Marty from MightyCarMods
@mitchdoescoffee6 ай бұрын
🤣 I'm so glad someone got the reference.
@MenderSlen5799 ай бұрын
Is the air filter nessecery?or does the lams and full powered version use the same filter?
@mitchdoescoffee9 ай бұрын
It's not going to be 100% necessary, but I would always recommend a better flowing filter.
@SasuRevenge9 ай бұрын
I apologize for ignorance, but these derestrictions in practice what improvements do they make?
@mitchdoescoffee9 ай бұрын
That's OK. In Australia and many other places, these bikes are power restricted for safety reasons to suit new riders. Once you remove these restrictions, the bike has alot more capabilities for power.
@Bok2022st5 ай бұрын
You said doing this would make it blow up. Is that right or do you need have to also get it tuned because of the changes? Can you leave it without the tune.?
@mitchdoescoffee5 ай бұрын
You can ride it without tuning it, but it could cause some engine damage without a tune & it won't make full power.
@CRBN744 ай бұрын
You need to have the ECU remapped to release full engine performance. I doubt this made a big difference as fully unrestricting a CB650 will DOUBLE its power output.
@lucasmerten10135 ай бұрын
Do you need to drain the tank before removing it? Or can you just take it off with the fuel still being inside?
@mitchdoescoffee5 ай бұрын
Nope, the quick fitting will seal itself. You will drip a little bit, so have a cloth underneath & it will be OK.
@lucasmerten10135 ай бұрын
@@mitchdoescoffee alright, thanks!
@OopsNoLife9 ай бұрын
Have you flashed it yet/ taken it to dyno
@mitchdoescoffee9 ай бұрын
No, not yet... the owner is potentially doing some other upgrades before spending the money on a tune.
@giovannipolito24312 ай бұрын
does it need a changing mapping too for get original full power?
@mitchdoescoffee2 ай бұрын
Yes. You MUST remap to get power & make sure you don't damage you engine.
@lukebarnsley6710Ай бұрын
pretty sure what you just cut out was there to prevent rain being sucked into the airbox as well as bugs and other bad stuff
@mitchdoescoffeeАй бұрын
A little extra cold air won't hurt 😎
@jpg_media67252 ай бұрын
Can you get the exact ECU files online ? If I were to take into a shop and provide the files myself
@mitchdoescoffee2 ай бұрын
Every bike is different... I always steer clear of "bench tuning" even a different brand air filter will make the tune different
@izakf53012 ай бұрын
Hey guys, planning to do the same. Where did you order the parts?
@mitchdoescoffee2 ай бұрын
Partzilla. Just remember you need 2 of them. 😅 www.partzilla.com/product/honda/17225-MJE-DB0
@izakf53012 ай бұрын
@@mitchdoescoffee Yes of course 😁 Thank you!
@Maltry9 ай бұрын
Definitely need an ECU flash. Without that youre running far too lean.
@mitchdoescoffee9 ай бұрын
For sure. It wasn't happy 😅
@CRBN744 ай бұрын
Why to lean?! The amount of air admitted to the engine remains the same 650cc per revolution! With or without restriction, the chambers' total volume will be fully filled with air!
@mitchdoescoffee4 ай бұрын
@CRBN74 Adding more air without adding more fuel = lean.
@CRBN744 ай бұрын
That's the point, you don't get more air in. Engine will breath better, but you will always get the same air volume, the same 650cc per revolution.
@mitchdoescoffee4 ай бұрын
@@CRBN74 push 1l of air through a small hose... it will take longer than 1l of air through a large hose. 👍
@iulikdev2 ай бұрын
Hi, did you change map on the bike?
@mitchdoescoffee2 ай бұрын
The owner ended up changing the parts back & selling it before it had been tuned, but if you do this mod I would highly recommend getting it tuned.
@Gottaloveguitars4274 ай бұрын
In Canada they come unrestricted and make about 94hp
@mitchdoescoffee4 ай бұрын
They are such a cool little bike. 👍
@aja85907 ай бұрын
Does my head in that Honda Australia doesn’t just offer unrestricted versions of the CB650R and CBR650R. Yamaha does with the R7.
@mitchdoescoffee7 ай бұрын
I don't think Honda has enough "street cred" to warrant that option just yet... The MT07/R7 platform has been around so long that it is known as the superior option. It's also a very different configuration of bike... the MT/R7 is a very torque focussed engine. So even derestricted is makes alot less power than the Honda.
@aja85907 ай бұрын
@@mitchdoescoffee Honda Motorcycles lack “street cred”? First time I’ve ever heard that. The swap that you did in this video and an ECU flash (and you need to flash the ECU) is all that is required to bring the CB650R/CBR650R back up from a gimped 50HP to 94HP. Mentioning Yamaha had nothing to do with torque vs HP, it was the fact that Yamaha Australia will sell you a LAMS compliant version or an unrestricted version of the same model bike from new. Honda Australia can’t be bothered.
@mitchdoescoffee7 ай бұрын
@aja8590 I mean this particular bike... the MT07 is by far the most popular fun Lams bike in Aus. Intake tubes, air filter, tune & you will also need an exhaust of some sort to get close to that magic 100hp
@The.JZA.6 ай бұрын
I would buy an CB650R over an MT07 if they were both offered as full power versions. Looks better, buttery smooth inline 4, better suspension and brakes. It’s a no brainer for me. I have wanted a CB650R since they were released in 2018 but Honda AUS/NZ won’t give it to us as a full power model. I’ve emailed them multiple times about it. They’re missing out on sales because I won’t ride a modified LAMS bike. If you crash into an expensive car your insurance will be invalid.
@mitchdoescoffee6 ай бұрын
@@The.JZA. easy solution... don't crash. 🤣
@morpheus26152 ай бұрын
Is it also that restricted on the 95HP version?
@mitchdoescoffee2 ай бұрын
No, this is the main restriction to lower the HP. The 95hp version is already done. 👍
@paraj55823 ай бұрын
does the intake noise get better?
@mitchdoescoffee3 ай бұрын
Sure does! No more choking sound
@Saantiix2 ай бұрын
Did any engine light pop up?
@mitchdoescoffee2 ай бұрын
No. But it definitely wasn't happy & would cause some engine damage if it was left untuned.
@hungrymynd5673Ай бұрын
Do I need to do this mod in Canadian version?
@mitchdoescoffeeАй бұрын
Hey mate. Thanks for reaching out. I've done some research & I really can't find anything that confirms or denies this. I would recommend popping the air filter out and having a quick look. 👍
@edsoncampos89475 ай бұрын
This is only in Europe right? The US version comes open?
@mitchdoescoffee4 ай бұрын
I'm not 100% certain. But I believe it's world wide.
@Mobo_entАй бұрын
Depends. Here in Malaysia it comes with 94hp and 64 torque
@ryanburches464119 күн бұрын
where can i buy these trumpet stacks? link please
@mitchdoescoffee18 күн бұрын
They are so hard to find! Where are you located?
@ryanburches464118 күн бұрын
@@mitchdoescoffee kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z7xgZ7Z8ydvIkqs.htmlsi=NCnXduMK2lM0vRRP I'm pretty sure this guy is selling the same stacks in his ecu flash package. let me know what you think?
@diogovilano42099 ай бұрын
where can i buy derestriction lams?
@mitchdoescoffee9 ай бұрын
www.partzilla.com/product/honda/17225-MJE-DB0
@diogovilano42099 ай бұрын
@@mitchdoescoffee When I buy it, does it only come with two air inlets or does it come with 4 air inlets? And electronics, can you buy a control unit already reprogrammed for original full power?
@ridenitro997 ай бұрын
I already have my honda cbr 650 R in london . I have full licence . And it has the power . So still lams will make make bike more power ?
@mitchdoescoffee7 ай бұрын
@@ridenitro99 every country is slightly different. I honestly don't know if your bike is derestricted or not.
@ChrisWilliams_NZ4 ай бұрын
Dammit. They dont ship to NZ. 🤨@@mitchdoescoffee
@DeuxiitАй бұрын
here they place these to down grade from 70kw A licence to 35kw A2 licence.
@mitchdoescoffeeАй бұрын
Ah yes. These bikes are so restricted from factory.
@rhyssanders91228 ай бұрын
bloke at the bike shop told me it was just straight up illegal, and it would void your rego and stuff - if you did do it and they found that you had de-restricted it would they report it? is it even worth it? just because LAMS bikes are just able to be sold for way more so your resale would drop like a stone just for a bit of power?
@mitchdoescoffee8 ай бұрын
Without stripping the bike down, how would anyone ever know? 😄
@iampyron228 ай бұрын
Technically an exhaust makes a lams bike not lams. It is what it is lol. Only an issue if you have full comp and they look into your bike if you have a big stack
@taz2311Ай бұрын
Who cares, cheap bike anyways
@doug13814 ай бұрын
Would doing just the air filter still require a tune . That filter is trash
@mitchdoescoffee4 ай бұрын
No I highly doubt it. Doing the filter will probably just make it sound a bit better & maybe pick up 1 or 2 hp. 🤷♂️
@RoaminNowhere2 ай бұрын
I would just cut out the restrictive plastic.
@mitchdoescoffee2 ай бұрын
That's also possible. But I don't want to be the one responsible for someone sucking leftover plastic under a valve. 😅
@huckwild646417 күн бұрын
Why you guys be restricting shit over there?! Smh at least you fixed the wrong