I bet the 190hpCorrola with 2l engine is also 50k at comparable trims

Corolla is small. Honda is probably more flexible than a Model 3 but you're right it is pricey.

Build Quality civic vs Tesla. prefer the first one !

I thought Irish currency was the Euro?

It's a hybrid numnuts....that's why it's expensive....let me see you find a hybrid that's cheap....no matter what brand let's go

Is it honda that are pricing themselves out of the Market or the Irish Politicians that are pricing them out of it!

you can now buy one of these for around like 27K USD, in the US, much less than in the UK/EU. I would bet that they are prioritizing US sales vs. the UK/EU?

@@Fun_Plum_ I live in a EU country and new civic cost around 33-36k €. Why is 50k in Ireland??

I think you’re right, i have had two of them. Liked them but not worth €50k

Is 50k the base price or top of the line model?

In my country costed me 39k eur

Too expensive in Ireland though!

How's it going so far Gelu? Mine is supposed to arrive in May! So excited!!!

@@xandrunull Since September 2023, I have done 18,500 km. Mostly in the city and its surroundings, being a family car, its purpose is to commute from the suburbs to the city center where the schools and offices are. Average consumption 5l/100km, but in the last 8,500km it has a consumption of 4.8l/100km. In extra-urban driving, I recorded a minimum of 3.9l/100km, and a maximum of 5.3l/100km. In the city, I also saw 11l/100km on segments of 300-400m (from one store to another) but as a daily average 4.5l - 5l/100km Noisy above 90km/h and unbearable after 120km/h. So, the sound insulation below expectations. Problems with the wipers: when it snows very hard, ice and snow accumulates on the axis of the wipers and obstructs the view, quite a lot, at the bottom of the windshield. And because ice accumulates, inside in the same area, the glass steams up a lot. Even with the ventilation directed exclusively at the windshield, from time to time, you have to wipe with a dry cloth. The trunk with the scriptic 410l would be OK, but the hump between the rear wheels spoils your entire suitcase arrangement. Otherwise, excellent car, comfortable, responsive acceleration in sport mode and easy in Eco. The sound that simulates gear changes but also the small suspensions of traction during brutal accelerations offer very pleasant sensations. Energy recovery is more aggressive in Sport mode than Eco, therefore Sport mode is not recommended for urban use: the accelerator pedal is too responsive in congested traffic and the energy recovery system, as I said, is too aggressive. That's why you will have a laugh full of shocks. The interior quality and ergonomics are very good. With the summer tires, it is, in my opinion, a bit too "stuck" on its trajectory, you have to put in some effort to change direction, but once on the trajectory it is like a train on the railway tracks. Probably due to the semi-performance stock tires. Even the winter ones do not disappoint, which I bought a little narrower and with a higher heel. I did this to slightly reduce the novel noise, because the roads are not among the best, but also because the suspension is a little stiff. And if we're still talking about rigidity, let's tackle the seats...just the same, slightly hard. The lumbar support doesn't delight me, it pushes my spine forward and it's disturbing. This may depend on the conformation of each user. It compensates for the heating in the seats which is well adjusted for the 3 intensity levels. Conclusion...I feel good with this Civic. I like that it has two sides: a calm city and family car and an aggressive one only good for playing on the winding mountain roads where the steering, the tires and the engine torque are always and when you need it.

@@gelu8312 I can live with those :). Can't wait!

@@xandrunull sa nu uiti sa-mi zici si parerea ta!

Must've been hard going down from an M340i though. I drove one for a few days and can't imagine the Civic compares in anyway.

You would be very surprised how fast the Civic feels especially say 40 to 80mph I mean not as fast as the Beemer but not as far off as you would think.@@ln5747

I did the same as yourself and don't regret it, but I agree about the tech support.

I saw a video of the gizmo being unplugged it provides the fake simulation f or gear changes some side panel of the dash has to removed should be a menu option in a future software upgrade

How about fuel consumption? well, you did say in any way.@@ln5747

Wait times are essentially nothing now in Australia one dealer told me if you want the civic ehev in white you can have it in two weeks. I think due to a high number of cancellations and more production you can get one pretty quickly.

Yes but this one is a hybrid so more expensive. That lower price in Canadian is for the petrol version not for hybrid

@@liv0003 I'm Swiss and I would love to buy a petrol Civic.

TBH Skoda are the perfect brand when you have to spend your own money on a car. I had Skoda's in the past (when I lived in Prague) and never had a single problem with any of them.

If you spec the Advance in Sonic grey pearl- the best colour option IMO. It's then sits under the 40k tax bracket. Then you can add the ducktail spoiler and mats on a separate invoice- still allowing you to avoid the silly extra tax. Agreed, Honda did originally price this better when it was released. Due to product costs for this new drive system, has hit Honda hard in this current economic climate. It's a shame the global economy has out priced a good car. I managed to screw my Stealership back to July prices, I paid 36k for Advance in Sonic grey pearl. Got a 5 year service plan with £700 chucked in foc. Dealers are willing to deal. You'll find one who's wanting to sell you one if you search hard

@@79blustone colour is such a personal thing and I really didn’t like grey. Also the pcp cost of the Honda versus the Skoda was significantly better for the Skoda and servicing costs are lower too but would have still purchased the Honda if only the pricing was competitive, sorry Honda. Hope you really enjoy your car.

@terryosborn That's OK, I can understand why it's not for everyone, life would be boring if it was. I used to be a Skoda Technician 9 years ago. I hope they've improved since. I remember changing EGR valves all day long. I particularly hated doing the 4x4 Yeti's as the transfer box had to come off to gain access to the back of the engine where the EGR sat. Used to drive me mad.... I moved to Japanese cars and I'm hooked, reliable and great to drive. I've got a GR Yaris for the weekends and now waiting for February for my Civic to arrive in the UK. I hope you your new purchase is trouble free 👍

I just picked up mine today Advance trim metallic red 365 miles for £36,000, went on the DVLA website popped in reg came back £170 VED, happy days the car was registered Oct 2023.

as a Civic owner, I approve of the comment

One of the 72 I presume.......😊

@@nerfpaul2497 I don't know if one of the 72 but certainly one of the 4 in my city :). By the way, I'm from Romania. So even less than 72. :)))

I’m American 🇺🇸 and agree with your comments on this Civic’s design. Honda went back to their design roots and absolutely knocked it out of the park with the 11th generation design! I love the understated, polished exterior paired with the semi- luxury interior. It’s a beautiful car and I’m super happy with mine.

I also have the same car. I was fortunate as I waited a week for mine as it was a cancelled order... even better I got it for the original price before it went up.

@@richardrichard9631 You will enjoy driving the new Honda Civic. I have had mine 6 months. Really easy car to live with

47 mpg is rather disappointing. My mother's 2021 Jazz hybrid is getting 65mpg so I thought the Civic may be mid 50s given it's the same system just a bigger, but still small car. I averaged 42 mpg in my 07 Civic 1.8 so to only get 47 mpg for a hybrid which adds a lot of expense seems somewhat pointless.

At £41,000 the road tax is over £500

@@Andy-zi1wj I would imagine deals would be done under £40k to save the tax, that's the list price.

Probably because it's got an engine, battery and motor in it when normally it's one or the other.

@@GK-qc5ry I can't tell if you're trying to be funny or not.

The 128ti is a much different car though, driven one and it's a hoot. Was that a new 128ti the same price?

Yes. List price for top of the range Civic and the BMW 128ti around £37k before options. Both quick, similar room inside front and back. Both have excellent quality interiors. Both handle very well. Apart from the hybrid trickery they're quite similar. Obviously economy with the Civic is much much better, but if your mileage is low, that may not be so critical. Both very capable cars. But get a BMW 128ti quick if you're thinking about it, because BMW are about to ruin the next gen 1 series by removing the i-Drive control wheel, which avoids having to use a touch screen on the move, AND removing all buttons for heating and the ICE and putting everything through the touchscreen. When VW were so vilified for this, I just do not understand BMW getting rid of one of their strongest selling points. They've done the same to Mini too. BMW you are complete idiots for doing this. @@ln5747

@@ln5747 Yes, it's the same price because the UK isn't a complete welfare/nanny state where you are begrudged for buying a slightly more powerful car like it is in this kip over here. With the tax on cars in our potato land, you'd think we'd have a public transport system that would rival best European systems, but instead we have smelly buses and two trams. What a shame.

That's interesting. In Germany there's a huge price gap between a 128ti and a Civic. A Civic Sport nowadays goes for 41k EUR while a similarly spec'd 120i (!) goes for 49k EUR. The 128i easily breaks the 50k barrier here. For us it was a no-brainer to go with the Civic, especially since we got it last year for 20% less with the old 2023 price list. Lucky for us, the dealer still had a new one in his show room, so we didn't have to wait. That being said, the BMW is a nice car with a premium feel and as such made it onto our shortlist as well.

Skoda is a winner on most levels

Sheeit, I'd happily pay even 40k, but 50 is defo a push.

That's what it goes for in my country. Why are they so expensive in Ireland?

It's a hybrid.......that's why it's expensive I want you to find a cheap hybrid no matter what brand let's go😊

Good point on the iPad.

@@NobbyOnCars Cheers. I'd love to know why that is though. My phone is mounted beside the centre console so it's in basically the same location as the aircon controls on my A7, but if a Garda (police for non-Irish readers 🙂) spots me tapping on it to change Spotify tracks, play with the maps etc I can be stopped and charged with an offence - but how is it any different to tapping and swiping on a touchscreen dash display or a giant tablet that's been glued to the dash? I genuinely don't get it.

I think you may be incorrect. As long as the phone is attached to dash /windscreen I don't think it is an offence. If it is on your person it is an offence i.e.in hand or on your lap. Entry spec Dacia cars uses owners phone as touchscreen display and provides mounting point in the car. Open to correction if I'm wrong here. @@img00

@@NobbyOnCars Legislation has yet to catch up and may not because of the weight of manufacturer lobbies. The main reason they're moving to screens? They're cheaper than physical buttons. Cheaper to prototype, manufacture, update and offer different 'looks and features' for different trim levels and grades within a brand's range.

Completely agree. I have a new GTI Clubsport, and while a great car it's virtually IMPOSSIBLE to adjust the temperature let alone the seat heating at night. And I love tech. But haptic controls are just a joke.

Yeah theres the same hybrid tech 1.5 sized engine in the HRV. Honda should've put that as a cheaper option for the civic.

A little sharper

We're being ripped off

It’s also the hybrid model that he has, so there’s that premium.

In the potato land of Ireland, the CRV cost about the same as a 5 series lol

You have hit the mark with what you have said. Honda are not chasing mass sales they are chasing profit.

Nope but if the sales figures make their way to Honda, you could see why.

@@NobbyOnCars a damn shame!

"the engine mainly acts as a generator for the battery. " That would be enough to end my interest in buying one. If the battery fails what happens?

There’s an 8 year warranty on the battery. Even after the warranty it would not be costly to replace the battery as it's so small!

That is too short a warranty, it is a single point of failure, old hybrids would still work without the battery, and the battery could be replaced aftermarket at a reasonable cost, I am not sure that will be possible with new auto engineering and onboard computers, sensors and parts that have to be programmed to be recognized by the ECU .@@rxs87

High 30s should be where it’s at really.

I do like the 3. Bit tight in the back?

What like? any car better and I mean better is going to cost more believe me they will have cut corners in some way, there is a saying there is no such thing as a free lunch remember that.

Reduce the price by 10k and I'll buy one tomorrow.

Not as spacious as the Skoda, this probably drives a little sharper.

All brands suffered that.

@@NobbyOnCars yes, but not nearly as bad as Honda, with the Civic. hybrid Civic for the EU market is only made in Japan, not anywhere else, like their other (SUV) lineup. Wich explains why you can have an ZRV, CRV HRV quicker than a Civic. A ZRV was a more recent model, and when you ordered one in 2023, you could get it already in 2023-2024. There is a Dutch car website that made an overview of all delays, the Japanese were the worst. Honda was the worst. And the Civic was their worst model in terms of waiting....

Was about to comment with the same thing. I am an Advance owner.

@@meurigjones5298 I am also. Had mine since September this year. Wonderful car to drive, I came from owning a FK8. (UK).

@@greymark420 had mine since May. First Honda for me. Love the car, except for the road departure mitigation. I switch it off every single journey. Hate it. Came from Skoda Superb Sportline. Fuel economy dipping slightly this week due to the cold temperatures.

@@meurigjones5298 Haha i do the same mate switch off the road departure. It's been great having the heated seats and steering wheel, yes fuel consumption will be less efficient in the cold weather. Also impressed with the Bose system.

Never was bothered by the made in Britain tag. Thank god mine is made in Japan .

Premium price? really it's around £40,000 new top spec, today unfortunately, that's just the way it is, just buy a 5-year-old Lexus if the noise bothers you that much.

Only in Sports mode.

I wouldn’t call .4 in the difference much to be honest. Maybe I drive harder than you do.

Just drive it more like Ian Hutchinson. I can push it to 6.0 litres/100km (47 mpg) that way. :D

Measured at the pump or the dashboard?

What country are you in for those prices?

@@NobbyOnCars Romania. We have some discounts on Hyundais compared to the rest of the EU.

Heated steering wheel 🤣

As you say, it’s just a lot of money but it’s a cracking car!

If you can charge at home which I can't.

True but this particular car has jumped a lot

Apart from the fact it does 60mpg and 0 to 60 in 6.8 seconds (car Wow).

We're very wealthy in Ireland, so they say.

@@willpeony5534 lol, happy for u sir

Marketing speak for a small battery that recharges from a petrol engine. But I’m sure you knew that.