I will start off by saying these are both great bikes and highly reliable. Yamaha’s are just as reliable as Honda’s and there is a high probability that you just bought a lemon because you’ve only been riding eight years and you’ve wrenched on it 30 times now. The ttr is just as bulletproof as the crf.

@@northamericanproductions all trail bikes are pretty near indestructible but at least from personal experience, the ttr takes more work than the honda and the honda is a lot easier to wrench on

Thanks man thought about getting a ttr cause I grew up on them but ride red all fayt

Rejet the ttr230, open up the air box, remove exhaust baffling, and enjoy.

@@uhyeahitsme413 I did that to mine and your right much better

Suppose you could also use it in the day if you'd like!

Thank you for your opinion. Enjoy your ttr230. Cheers 🍻

North American Productions can you tell witch bike you personally prefer I still don’t know witch one to get

Blake Hemphill vlogs They’re both great bikes. It comes down to personal preference really. The Yamaha has a more quality build to it, but the Honda is more fun to ride. Honda seems slightly more powerful, but not a real noticeable difference. If I bought only one bike I’d buy the Yamaha first.

This will be a good starter bike for you and will be a very dependable bike. These bikes rarely leave people stranded in remote areas. Just make sure you change your oil regularly and only run 91 octane fuel. As for battery issues when riding remote, I’m not concerned because you can always bump start the bike in emergency situations.

@@northamericanproductions Thanks for the info. At 55 years old, I'd like to enjoy a bike without having to tear it apart every winter.

c103110a Anytime. You shouldn’t have any issues with the bike. It’s good that you’re buying new because people like to abuse dirt bikes. These bikes will outlive us, literally. Anymore questions, feel free to ask. Take care and enjoy your new bike!

​@@northamericanproductionsI just brought my first dirt bike I just turned 40

@@JasonPerry-uq3cb Congratulations. Better late than never. What bike did you choose?

I feel anybody would be happy with either bike. It just comes down to preference. I recommend going to the dealer and checking out both of these bikes before purchasing. Like I said in the video, the crf230f is disappearing from dealers because it’s been discontinued. If you want the Honda, there are a select few dealers that have some in stock still, but I’d move quick on the Honda. I prefer dirtbikes over atvs because they are easier to transport and have been proven safer than atvs. A atv is more likely to roll over and crush its operator, where as statistically speaking the dirtbike will tumble away from you in the event of a crash. As for the suspension, the Yamaha is a little bit softer, but not a huge noticeable difference.

@@northamericanproductions Thanks. I went to a dealer today and looked at a Honda Crf230f, they have two in stock for $4175, plus $125 set up fee. Another dealer, 100 miles from me have two Crf230f's and two Ttr230's in stock. They are asking $3999 for the 2019 Honda's. The Yamaha's are about $400 cheaper and they are 2018 models. Your video comparing these two bikes was spot on for me, exactly what I was interested in. I think I will go with the Honda at the dealer closer to me since that will most likely be where I would get parts and service. I do plan on getting the bike in the next couple of weeks, even though the snow is 4 foot deep on the level around here and it will be a couple month's before I could possibly ride it. I agree that atv's are less safe. There was an incident where a Grandfather rolled his atv with a 5 or 6 year old child onboard. The kid was killed, that was about 8 years ago. Of course it was stupid to do that, I'm sure the whole family was tore apart and the man responsible must feel terrible. Also, transporting a atv would require a trailer, plus they cost a heck of a lot more than these bikes. I've been riding dirt bikes since I was about 10 years old and I am more comfortable on two wheels. Back then they did not have these cute little 50cc kids bikes, I could not put both feet on the ground. My last bike was a 500cc Honda thumper, air cooled 2 strokes where mostly the norm at the time. Looking at the Crf230f in the showroom today it looks very similar to my old bike. The body panels and seat are more modern, but the suspension and engine have not changed much. I paid $1200 for that bike brand new off the dealers floor. It was the first year Honda put the Pro-Link suspension on a 4 stroke trail bike (1982 XL500). I rode that bike for 15 years, I rebuilt the engine one time and put God knows how many new clutch plates in the thing, but I would say it was remarkably reliable.

@@arniespace honestly at this price point the TTR would have been a total steal of a deal . really good deal also with the honda too

You’ll love the bike. I recommend rejetting the carb, big gun aftermarket exhaust with full header and a K&N air filter ASAP. You won’t have to use the choke anymore on a cold start.

Isn’t it the only 230 trail bike that’s fuel injected?

In your opinion which one made more power

@@Tain950 The Honda has more torque and slightly faster, but the Yamaha is quicker off the start.

The 110f and 125f have kick start, but not the 150f or 230f.

This is false

I disagree and have lots of experience with both bikes now and the Honda engine gets hotter quicker than the Yamaha and the Honda engine stays hotter longer after you turn the engine off. The Yamaha undoubtedly dissipates heat better.

Thank you for your perspective. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.

Thank you for your comment. If I only bought one bike it would be the Yamaha. Hands down better quality bike. Also the Yamaha has wider grips for adults with large hands. I have average midsize hands and the Honda grips are a tad bit narrow. I wish I had more time to talk about other key points, but my channel at this point is only allowed 15 minute videos. Maybe I’ll do a update video in the future. -East Wisconsin

you probably already got a bike. but a great bike that i just got like 3 days ago is a 2019 CRF 250f. it is a super nice and powerful but not to powerful trail bike. i am a pretty small 13 year old and i fit on it very good. it’s an amazing bike

you just like the color blue 😅

Thank you. They’re both great bikes. I bought identical bikes because I ride dirt bikes with family and friends. It’s much easier getting new riders into riding if you have a spare bike for them. It’s always more fun riding with a friend than by yourself.

Love the 05 crf f

That's awesome I been looking for a trail bike and when I was a kid I rode a xr100 years ago...I also seen the Kawasaki 300 but still looking! Hope I find a good one thanks for posting..

I have the same year 230 and the thing is fuckin bombproof, they really are dope

His nickname is Tony 2x

The dealer recommends keeping the battery on a battery tender, especially if you’re going to keep it in a cold garage. Cold air kills batteries. I don’t use one because I keep my bikes in a warm room and I also start them up and run them every couple weeks.

On my crf I've only replaced the battery once and I owned it a long time before it happened, not to mention the bike was used when I bought it. Dont worry about the battery. The only time I charge it is when its winter time and its too cold to ride it. Other than that it wont go bad.

You’re welcome. They are both great bikes. It just matters what your preferences are.

What mods did you do? I'm thinking about buying one.

@@fivefivesix-sevensixtwo4114 too many to mention

Both are still stock, so I can’t comment.

Thanks. That’s why I bought both.

@@northamericanproductions it's been a year, any preference to one or the other?

@@lf3skillz921 They’re both great bikes, but I will say the Honda shifts a lot cleaner. The Yamaha sounds better.

The seat height of the klx230r is 36.2 inches, almost 2 inches taller than the TTR230 at 34.3 inches. Not as good for shorter riders.

Jeff Hainline that’s true! I am 5 7 and I got a lowering kit on the klx from the dealer and it fits me perfect!

Jeff Hainline I’m about 5’10 and it really fits me perfect. But yes, Kawasaki seems to make higher seats than the competition. And Honda seems to make midget bikes to me. (The new ones anyways)

You’ll have to re-jet the carburetor because it takes awhile to get the bike to idle without bogging out.

230

what are your riding goals

Eijah Martin 230 is probably better for your height and you wont grow out of the power as fast as the 150. I’d assume you’re plenty big to fit a 230, probably even a 250 if you wanted to.

Robert Roberson Just trail riding and sometimes riding around farms

230f or klx 250

Retail prices are listed on both companies websites.

They sell lowering link kits which lower it by 40mm ;)

Exact same situation with me lmao😂🤭

I'll do a update soon. I'm not the best channel at posting videos. I'm a busy person with many things going in my life and I don't make money off my channel. Thanks for viewing!

@@northamericanproductions very nice thanks. Quick question, which would you pick? 🍺

@jocoloco1320 That's a hard question to answer because they're both great bikes. I think the better handling bike is the Honda and it's more fun to ride. The better quality built bike is the Yamaha and oil changes are easier. The Yamaha has better low end which means it's faster off the start than the Honda. The Honda has better top end which means it's slightly faster than the Yamaha at higher speeds. You can't go wrong with either bike. I have aftermarket exhausts with full headers on both bikes now and the Yamaha sounds better than the Honda. I'm glad to have them both.

@@northamericanproductions nice, thanks again. Getting ready to snag one or the other.

@@jocoloco1320 Awesome. You'll have fun on these bikes. They max out at about 65mph sixth gear pinned.

At your height you can definitely start on one of these bikes, but if you have no experience with working a clutch and gear shifting then a crf150f would be your best option as it would be safer to learn on. If you have a experienced rider to teach you the basics of riding then you’re going to be happier with a 230cc because this really is the right sized bike for your height. These bikes for my size are underpowered, but I’ve been riding all my life and these bikes are just trail cruisers for me. You being a beginner and lightweight these bikes will be a monster for you and they will pull you up big hill climbs and do about 60mph sixth gear pinned. Anymore questions feel free to ask.

@@northamericanproductions Awesome very helpful advice - I almost was considering the CRF250R 2008 because it was on sale in my area or a WR250f but read both weren’t ideal for a beginner is this true? thank you so much you’ve really helped me narrow down my choice. I’m from New Zealand and only could find one used crf230 that was around the same price as a new TTR230. So might be leaning towards the Yamaha.

@@fastfoxxx88 Yes this is true. The Crf250r is a motocross bike and the wr250f is a detuned race bike designed for trail riding. Both of those bikes are going to have more power than a ttr230. Both those bikes are liquid cooled vs an air cooled 230cc. That means more components on the bikes. The 230cc will have plenty of power for a beginner and is far more reliable than a liquid cooled bike. That being said the ttr230 is carbureted and both bikes you mentioned are electronic fuel injection. You want to make sure whatever you buy has a kickstand and electric start. There’s nothing more demoralizing to a beginner rider than sitting there in a remote location trying to manually kickstart the engine over. Note that race bikes don’t have a kickstand either, which means on the trail you’ll be leaning the bike up against a fixed object like a large rock. A kickstand is a nice luxury to have while trail riding. The ttr230 is going to have less maintenance than a liquid cooled race bike. Air cooled bikes are built like tanks and will last a lifetime if properly taken care of. I hope I’ve answered your questions. Greetings from the USA 🇺🇸

Matty Combs it think you should get a 250

A 250 2 stroke or a 450f is a great choice.

For a beginner ride a four stroke 250 is definitely the way to go with your height and weight. Two strokes are a lot to handle for your first bike and the 450 might be to much power.

No, get a 230 Honda lmao my dad rides one he’s 280lb with a huge beer gut and he fucking rips it

Yes I do have both of them and yes I have done some modifications on them. I know my channel isn't the best on posting KZfaq videos because I'm not that kind of channel, but I will be doing a update video on both these bikes with the modifications.

Lol, my dogs a killer. Not sure you’d like him 😉

I’m estimating the speed by what it feels like. I haven’t clocked the bikes with gps yet, but will soon. I’ve also read other reviews that say 55-60 is stock speed for these bikes, but if you uncork the bike you could achieve greater numbers.

The Honda has a key and I clocked the Yamaha at 64mph.

Nothing. It has nothing to do with it.

Thank you. I know I’m not the most polished reviewer/channel, but I only give honest information and my honest opinion.

I started off on a 250 two stroke and 125 two stroke at 13, but I’m not going to recommend those bikes for you. I caught on to riding very quick at that age. If you’re competent with your riding abilities, go with a 150f or 230f.

I agree. I’d love these bikes to be street legal, but with a 55mph top speed, you’ll be riding in the city. You’ll need more power to ride the highway.

My chineese 125cc hits 55-58miles this thing can not be that slow or is it?

It all depends on what the purpose of the bike is for what you intend. These aren’t for going fast. They’re for cruising trails. I bought two new 230s for the same price as one new 450f.

Your choices are the 150f or 230f. When I was your age, I went straight into riding a 250 two stroke because that’s all my buddy had for me. I personally would say get a ttr230, that way you can grow into it a bit. So many people think getting the exact bike they need now, throw their money away because after a few months of riding, they outgrow the bike. You’ll be happy with the ttr230 until you’re about 18, then you’ll be looking for a 250 two stroke of 450f as your experience and confidence grows. I never recommend a 250f race bike. Those are just a waste of money.

I have a crf230 and and am a similar age and height, they are a great bike, I dont recommend going any smaller as you will grow out of it quickly, I can throw the 230 around a track and bush trials and it holds up great, can’t recommend them enough, consider a 230, brand won’t matter much but stick with a reputable brand, one like Yamaha or Honda

I just got crf230 and I think they are way better than the ttr230. My brother has a ttr230 and it is slow and a non user-friendly bike. Go the crf230

I haven’t rejetted these bikes yet. They’re still both stock.

I’m 14 and the same size as you. The CRF230F will fit you well. it’s not ideal for learning. It’s got a good bit of kick for a beginner, but you’ll get use to it. And for your parents, start saving up to help them buy it. And tellem it’s all you want for Christmas, or your birthday.

It all depends on what you are comfortable riding on. When I was younger I started riding directly on a full size 250 2 stroke because that’s all my friend had for me to ride. It was way over sized for a 12 year old, but I made it work anyway. I’d say you’d be fine riding on a 230 as they sit much lower than a full size race bike and the 230 will have plenty of power for someone 114 pounds.

@@northamericanproductions Update i’m going to get a crf230 sunday and i’m 5’6 now

@@owenbucknell5654 Congratulations. You should be fine on a 230.

@@northamericanproductions Thanks!

@@owenbucknell5654 Have fun!!!

Their websites?

Yamaha has more torque and low end. It's faster off the start than the Honda. The Honda has better top end. It's slightly faster than the Yamaha at higher speeds.

No the crf250f was out when I got these bikes. I wanted a carbureted bike.

Ttr230 mike can go abt 60 mph or 100 kph I think the klx might be a tiny bit faster but the ttrs can take a beating and great for trails so I think ttr is your best beat

@74 CYCLES yeah your right but he asked to compare the 2. really if he wants a trail bike he should go with the crf250 x as it’s the only fuel injected trail bike and if he wants a good track bike for a starter he should go with the yz 125 of something along those lines. he asked what would be better so just give him your best op

Hard to say. It’s personal preference. The Yamaha is quicker off the start and the Honda has a higher top speed. The Yamaha sounds better than the Honda. The Honda is more fun to ride and it shifts better than the Yamaha. Overall fit and finish of the Yamaha is higher quality than the Honda. Hope this helps.

They can go around 75

4500

Neither bike has a kick starter

@Joey VanDeWeert thanks for the comment back! i havent made a decision yet . favoring the current honda lineup at the moment because their fuel injected now so one less thing to think about.

They’re both great bikes. Pick your color.

@@northamericanproductions that’s basically what I did 🤣🤣 can’t wait to get my ttr in a couple of weeks !! Only thing I don’t like is the carb but damn that blue looks nice lol

DSego90 Congratulations on the new bike. Cheers 🍻

There is no 2020 crf230f as I stated in the video. It has been replaced by a crf250f fuel injected bike.

The 230s are great starter bikes because of the price. If you’re going to buy a full size race bike the 250f is a waste of money that you’ll outgrow quickly. I always recommend 250 two strokes or 450 four strokes if you’re looking for a full size bike and have the money. I personally started off on a 250 two stroke and 125 two stroke at 13 years of age.

@@northamericanproductions Copy that !!! Thanks for the reply + advice. About a week ago I decided on a 2020 KLX 300R. First bike ever, taking it to some dirt this weekend. So far so good tho, I like it.

The Topshelf Company I was close to buying a Kawasaki as well. I love all the different brands out there. I’ll eventually buy a Kawasaki too. I’m not one of those diehard Honda for life guys. I can see Honda has been riding their name for far too long. Enjoy the bike. Cheers 🍻

yeah lol

10k

8k

Smh he could of got nicer ones

You mean Swayze, Patrick Swayze

Maybe I’ll add a third one to the collection lol

Don’t get the 140. Too small. You’ll likely want something else soon. KX 250 is a motocross racing two stroke, so I’m not sure if you meant that or the KX250F, but it depends on what you want. If you are racing, get the KX 250 or the KX250F. If not, get a 230. A 140 is just too small for you. I have a 230 and am also 5’8”. Perfect fit for me but I’m only 160 pounds. It’s up to you really, mostly just would depend on your budget.

Caleb Patterson is the kx250f a 4 stroke? And is it similar to the ttr 230 and crf230f?

Sometimes quality goes over speed and power specially when they are not ment for that

Mines 4

If someone wants to steal your bike, it’s very easy. Put it in neutral and push it away, then load it in your truck. You can fix the Yamaha by wiring in a toggle switch hidden under the bike inline with the kill switch. Then nobody would be able to start the Yamaha. It doesn’t mean they can’t just load either bike in the back of their truck.

@@northamericanproductions true experience aprooves

I like them both the same and gave my girlfriend the Yamaha. They both have their differences but I like them both equally. The Yamaha has better low end and the Honda has better top end.

DAMNNJOHNNY Bailey pfffffft can’t kill the honda buddy

But they are the best beginner bikes and they are just for crusing

Yamaha is just as bulletproof as the Honda, both will still be ripping in 20 years if taken care of.

Always good to have a opinion.

No, they only changed the Honda to fuel injected for 2020. The Yamaha is still carbureted for the 2020 year.

North American Productions You’re right I was thinking of the KLX230R. Also I realized the CRF230F doesn’t have a 2020 model according to their website. I’m trying to decide between the KLX230R and the CRF250F. I can’t find any direct comparisons between these two.

Facts. Yamaha is 🔥🔥

Yamaha =💩💩💩💩💩

Thank you. He’s a great dog.