Honda Navi vs Honda Grom *New Rider*

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Honda Navi vs Honda Grom New Rider

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Talking about my 2022 Honda Navi and 2023 Honda Grom. What to expect with each and what I use them for! Mods coming for both of these bikes. Make sure to subscribe and check out my upcoming videos on these!
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@holybotulism313 2 жыл бұрын

A city with heavy traffic is where the Navi shines.

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I would agree with that for sure!

@313osh Жыл бұрын

what about ATL or Arizona

@kennylopez-bb7wh Жыл бұрын

Got it to build credit Live where backroads are 55 mph but there is a route that nobody takes that I could go 50 on all day. And when I get to the city it’s all 35 to 45 insurance is 50 a month only because I’m 19 and I financed it and I’m 6 foot 2 270 pounds

@marksolditforme 4 ай бұрын

@@kennylopez-bb7wh how’s riding in the country? That’s the only reason I’m buying one

@setLillie 21 күн бұрын

@@kennylopez-bb7wh$50 a month?! I pay $73 a year with progressive and I'm a 19 year old African American male!!!

@TehkNinja Жыл бұрын

If the navi had a larger engine still with the cvt it would be sick

@ReeeeeToaded Жыл бұрын

You misspelled "dangerous" 😂

@rydstallion75 3 ай бұрын

I agree. There's no reason why it couldn't at least be a 125 and retain the same price.

@ctaaaaaaa 2 ай бұрын

⁠@@ReeeeeToadedwhy would it be dangerous

@AudiophileTubes Жыл бұрын

Honda should bring back the affordable 50cc, 2-stroke, 5-speed manual, 7 HP screamer, the MB5! 53 MPH!

@crazypjk Жыл бұрын

$100 for better shocks on the navi are a game changer.

@alecbo8124 Жыл бұрын

What shocks?

@ellaandrioaie5731 Жыл бұрын

It seems that Navi is physically bigger than the Grom and more spacious. That would make it more comfortable in spite of poor suspension and seat quality, is that right? I sat once on a Navi in a dealership and the seat seamed well-padded and pretty comfortable, definitely spacious.

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

The navi is a little taller, the seat isn’t bad for short rides, but trust me you’ll feel it after you’ve ridden it long enough 😂. Overall it’s great for the price!

@truthistruth4186 2 жыл бұрын

2023 honda grom in south florida. Brand new cost anywhere from 6500-8000. It's the craziest mark up I ever seen. Broward Motorsports is charging 2500 extra between destination and Assembly fees.

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

That’s absolutely insane!! 🤯

@elcanow Жыл бұрын

What you recommend? Im from Fl to

@MarkGadala Жыл бұрын

@@ModdedProjectsGarage ya prices down here are nuts, where do you live with these awesome OTD prices?

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

North Dakota 👍

@Snowburnt Жыл бұрын

I'm in south Florida. I was given a price of $5,500 otd. It's nuts.

@pcthayer Жыл бұрын

I found this video since I am debating on those 2 bikes as a 2nd fun motorcycle. Thanks for the info. BTW...was just watching a youtube video by LifeofBirch and he just installed new shocks ($35) and said it made a big difference on the Navi. Also I wanted to compliment you on that beautiful Lincoln in your driveway.

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@pcthayer Жыл бұрын

@@ModdedProjectsGarage sorry it is "Life of Burch" (I misspelled it earlier.)

@zachedelic1293 2 жыл бұрын

navi for everyday use in cities and grom for fast longer rides

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I could agree with that for sure. The navi seems more practical for going to work everyday with the extra storage for things and the Grom is awesome for just cruising around. But both could do either without a doubt though

@Gokywildcats11 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the response, I think a trike would be very interesting, I'm a 300 pound guy and a little big for a grom or a navi. But I was thinking that a trike could be more of my style. Fat tires, wide fender flares. I hope to see if you can make this happen. And thanks have. Blessed day

@tanvirhussain7355 Жыл бұрын

Bro how about you lose some fat? Come to gym and enjoy life? Hey! You can even enjoy riding navi/ grom too.

@usernameisusername Жыл бұрын

The tricolor kit reminds me of the 500 interceptor that I had in the 80s

@jake6483 2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking at getting my 1st bike above 50CC, And these are the 2 that I'm really looking at. All I would like is to be able to go 55 or 60 after some modifications and get some good fuel economy in the meantime.

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

For the higher speed, I’d have to say the Grom would be better especially if you have a fair share of 55mph zones on your commute. If it’s just occasional 55mph zones the navi would be fine. I’m 210lbs and have never had my navi up to 55 even down a hill. My navi doesn’t have any mods yet either though, but even then it might a tough. If you’re a lighter rider it might be doable.

@jake6483 2 жыл бұрын

@@ModdedProjectsGarage I'm really amazed that it could not get above that speed but I'm sure it has to do something with gearing. I had a stock 2 stroke 50cc that did 42mph With my 240 pound roommate and my 190 pounds on it. I'm going to keep researching respective aftermarkets, but as you said, the grom has many more options. this video definitely helped! Thanks!

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

@@jake6483glad it helped! Good luck with your purchase! 👍👍

@adamrobinette6832 3 ай бұрын

I live near a downtown area and am a new rider. What a new rider needs to be careful of with the Navi, is that, while it's not a fast bike at speed, that little shit is quick 0-30 and involves a little practice with throttle control if you've never ridden and are still learning balance. When the light turns green, she wants to GO.

@Daniyoyo Жыл бұрын

I don’t think the Grom is twice as better as the half off NAVI- that what it really comes down to

@ChachoGSX 8 ай бұрын

True, but the top speed of the Grom allows me to daily it to work, where I can take advantage of the 136 mpg for my route, where the Grom will pay for itself over time.

@acerocky Жыл бұрын

Dang...Gues i gotta get both

@GCEStrella88 2 жыл бұрын

Looking to buy one of these bike. Great comparison video

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I hope it helped! 👍

@dannymccullagh8211 Жыл бұрын

Get 2 Naviss for 1 grom

@charlesdonaldson962 Жыл бұрын

From an old rider to a new one you might try to get used to saying ride the bike and still drive it.. Welcome to Riding I know you'll enjoy it always

@TheCabult Жыл бұрын

Watch for dealer price hikes.

@Snowburnt Жыл бұрын

A local dealer near me wants to charge a $750 destination charge. So yes, beware.

@TheCabult Жыл бұрын

@@Snowburnt the dealer near me has a 300% mark up. I will not be shopping there again. Closest competitors 3 hours. Time for a ride.

@Snowburnt Жыл бұрын

@@TheCabult That's a lot. The ride would be worth it.

@MrJ8969 2 жыл бұрын

i was thinking about getting one or the other idk i want one for work and back mostly i only live about 5 or so miles from work and maybe cruising to home and to the store i was thinking maybe the navi bc it wont break the bank for what i want to use it for

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

The navi would be perfect for that 👍👍

@benjamincintron8761 Жыл бұрын

I bought a navi, I love it but I'm buying a firmer shock. The stock shock is a back breaker.😅

@soyboi2819 2 жыл бұрын

The Navi is a scooter with a motorcycle makeover. If you remove the fairings, it's literally a scooter body underneath.

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@ellaandrioaie5731 Жыл бұрын

Is that good or bad? I mean it has the advantages of both motorcycle & scooter or only disadvantages?

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

@@ellaandrioaie5731 it really doesn’t matter. It is what it is. It’s a good bike for city driving 👍

@jayryan7473 7 ай бұрын

@soyboi2819 You re obviously justifying paying a couple grand more for a bike that only has 15 extra cc's of displacement and zero storage LOL

@diegonavaja804 Жыл бұрын

Can you answer a question for me since you got both . Can you tell me if the exhaust manifold is the same in both every time i type in navi full exhaust , the grom exhaust pops out too

@bryan1956 Жыл бұрын

what a great vid. Thanks!

@DunnRightVideos Жыл бұрын

Awesome to see sometime in my state also interested in these bikes! I just put my deposit down for a brand new Navi. Is the Navi considered a scooter or a motorcycle in our state? License wise

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! You’ll need to get a motorcycle license for it because it’s over 49cc 👍

@DunnRightVideos Жыл бұрын

@@ModdedProjectsGarage thanks! Sounds good! 👍🏼 do they let you do the permit and the driving portion of the test in the same day? I’ve been riding dirt bikes and street bikes for 15 years or so, but always just got a permit in the summer since I’ve always lived out of town 😂 I’d like to get the license now though since I plan to start having a passenger with me sometimes

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m pretty sure you can do the test right away

@pb6839 Жыл бұрын

The Navi is a scooter, with plastic where you would normally place your 6 pack on the way home from the grocery store

@tonyelgoblin8658 10 ай бұрын

Don't underestimate it

@pb6839 10 ай бұрын

@@tonyelgoblin8658 been 7 months but I think it’s alright. I still don’t love it, but it definitely has a place.

@jayryan7473 7 ай бұрын

@@pb6839A six pack? You can EASILY fit 20 cans in the lower storage. I can't believe you had no idea there was storage underneath LOL

@pb6839 7 ай бұрын

@@jayryan7473 damn I had no idea it fit that much. From memory it was much smaller. But why do you drink beer from can?

@raid3rflynn107 Жыл бұрын

How is night riding on the grom and Navi? Head light wise

@lostintheclouds8719 Жыл бұрын

***update*** (12/27/22): I never bought the navi even though it’s the first bike I saw that inspired me to learn and go to mss. Learned and passed on a grom. Love the grom/considering one. Not a fan of shifting/stalling but then again my rider experience is only two days and 45 minutes, so of course I need to practice. narrowed down to 10 bikes on my list. 8 of which are manual, 1 electric and then navi. No Chinese junk makes. The manual ones on my list are able to have a rekluse clutch fitted to it which will make stalling no longer an issue. I will still have to shift with my foot but that’s not a problem. Plus I can still use the clutch if I want to as it is still recommended. A rekluse will not make it automatic but it will eliminate stalling coming to/taking off from a stop. The prices people are asking for a navi otd/used are ridiculous when I can get a decent used 2018-2020 Grom for the same price. I honestly can’t justify spending any more than $1500 on a navi. There’s too much crap you’re gonna have to do to it in order to make it up to decent specs and that’s dumping at least another two grand into it. So I’m def still browsing. I’m shopping under 650cc pref. My most powerful bike on my list is the Vulcan S, weakest is navi.

@mintyhobo2348 Жыл бұрын

Stalling is normal when you're first learning. That's why it takes practice. If you like the Grom more in pretty much every regard, you should go for the Grom and learn. You'll probably want to learn shifting either way if you're serious about motorcycling. You cannot swap the brakes without serious skills or monetary investment on a Navi. Frankly, you'd spend more on the Navi swapping out things and modding it than you would buying a Grom outright. Coming from someone who was in the same boat (bought a Navi after the course), I can wholly recommend just getting the Grom instead.

@lostintheclouds8719 Жыл бұрын

@@joemommaganja some ppl are fkn busy like w/ school finals and work. And I did respond. My school ended 12/21. Sorry I’m not on the Internet every second of the day like you might be. some people do have lives. I guess I’ll note down that you need immediate answers in the future

@lostintheclouds8719 Жыл бұрын

@@mintyhobo2348 deleted my old reply and updated my original post. Less of a book now so I guess Joe mills should approve lol

@mintyhobo2348 Жыл бұрын

@@lostintheclouds8719 Oh man.. don't even worry about stalling. Honestly, you may do it a few times accidentally, but you'll get the hang of it in no time. Consider how much progress you made from zero knowledge to being able to ride a motorcycle in just the course. It's a bit silly to buy a Grom, then not ride it until you get a semi-auto clutch upgrade. Unless you're mechanically inclined, you'll also have to pay and wait for an install too. Not worth it. Just ride it around the neighbourhood a bit, you'll get the hang of a clutch in no time. Trust me. If you're so dead set on a semi-auto bike, maybe look into the Trail or Supercub if you're in the States. But honestly, learn the clutch. Better to learn how sooner, rather than instilling bad habits now and making it harder to learn in the future.

@lostintheclouds8719 Жыл бұрын

@@joemommaganja can you even read? You missed my reply. I did reply. Get your eyes checked.

@Darklord-mq6ex 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy your Navi cuz here in Los Angeles I can’t find one less than 3000 dollars.

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I live in North Dakota 😂 the dealership I went to was great! no mark ups on anything and even gave me discounts 👍

@Darklord-mq6ex 2 жыл бұрын

@@ModdedProjectsGarage wow you’re lucky you got a great deal.

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

@@Darklord-mq6ex yeah I’ve seen a lot of dealerships have been price gouging people.

@donjulio3895 2 жыл бұрын

Yea up here in northern Cali(north of Sac) I’m looking 3400-3500 out the door $800 dealer mark up 🙄

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

@@donjulio3895 crazy! Pure greed!

@dasshape00 Жыл бұрын

I get 55mpg on navi

@stacyfritz5853 2 жыл бұрын

I think the #Grom looks cooler 😎 a little more retro! But I do like being able to hop on th #navi and just ride! Maybe a cool wrap for it?! 😏🧐

@chronicillz1879 Жыл бұрын

im sorry do you mind me asking what city or at least what state you live in? that just seems to me like such a nice community/neighborhood to raise a family and i just got married...

@garyfranks2586 2 жыл бұрын

Cool car in video

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That’s my 65 Lincoln continental!

@michaelearlgrey Жыл бұрын

You're one of several channels to point out how Honda GROSSLY overestimated the Navi's MPG. Nobody is coming up with 110MPG.

@jayryan7473 7 ай бұрын

You can certainly get 110 miles per gallon. Research hypermiling.

@parkerwhite4902 10 ай бұрын

Dang I was really into the price of the Navi until I heard about it being a cvt instead of like the grom I was really hoping it was just a more basic and cost effective slower grom

@jayryan7473 7 ай бұрын

Um did you not pay attention? It IS slower than the Grom. And you want something more basic than the Grom? You CAN'T get any more basic than the Grom LOL

@daniellelan 11 ай бұрын

How are the shocks for the back on a Grom??

@tavs111 Жыл бұрын

Grom is more fun navi is more enjoyable

@Gokywildcats11 2 жыл бұрын

What mods will you do. How hard would it be to make a trike

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I’m looking at making an adventure style bike with the navi. I have a decent amount of ideas for that. I have a yoshimura exhaust coming for the Grom and that’s about it for right now except for a wrap for a small portion of it. Not sure on the trike, but that sounds interesting!

@lovelylonerboy7156 Жыл бұрын

Can you make the Navi faster by upgrading engine?

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

I haven’t done any engine mods to the navi yet. I can’t say first hand, but I think it would be pretty minimal. If you need more speed you need a bigger bike unfortunately.

@vorexis Жыл бұрын

I've done intake and rejet, as well as lighter CVT rollers on my Navi, and I still top out at 50-52. I'm a bit bigger guy at 230 lbs, though. I will say, it gets up to that speed much faster than it did stock.

@yokai-vr3jz 10 ай бұрын

@@vorexischange the contra spring and clutch springs as well, and remive necessary weight on bike. Also, cdi can help as well

@TheCornBanana Жыл бұрын

How does the navi take hills?

@domenik8339 Жыл бұрын

It does hills fine! Because of the CVT, the acceleration is basically the same regardless of whether it's on flat ground or up a hill.

@abac5093 Жыл бұрын

So has anyone gotten pulled over on anyone lol and also do you have to smog it like a car lol or what fee you pay in the dmv

@yannikoloff7659 2 жыл бұрын

As experienced rider, I say;- Buy a Grom and stick with him. When gas is going to 15 dollars per gallon, you will be still moving. Just stick with Grom, till rest of your life.

@ModdedProjectsGarage 2 жыл бұрын

I really love the Grom, but the navi for the price is a really good deal!

@drmachinewerke1 11 ай бұрын

Navi needs a rd350 engine

@RanderathNic Жыл бұрын

Your voice somehow didn't match your look.

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@Happyboymargarine Жыл бұрын

Dude you’re wrong you’re not getting 140 miles to the gallon on a Grom

@nameless4031 9 ай бұрын

“Costed?”

@ModdedProjectsGarage 9 ай бұрын

😂 wasn’t my best moment apparently

@norbertlevas3819 Жыл бұрын

Ugliest speedometer ever on Navi

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

At least it has one 😅😂

@norbertlevas3819 Жыл бұрын

@@ModdedProjectsGarage 😅yess

@lostintheclouds8719 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if that can be swapped out to an LED one

@usernameisusername Жыл бұрын

2200 out the door I call bullshit

@ModdedProjectsGarage Жыл бұрын

Damn, I’m going to lose sleep over this comment. I paid 2230 out the door. Trust me, I was there

@az-rec Жыл бұрын

Yeah here In Az the price at ridenow is 1800 for the Navi before taxes and fees

@matthewhensley5165 8 ай бұрын

I have a Navi I want to upgrade the headlight I think it looks silly it's bigger bike than grom but has tiny headlight assembly I'm thinking to just mount the 2nd gen from headlight already upgraded the shitty seat