JO Grobler these guys know what they're doing! I need to get my videos up to this quality level.

It's already become my favorite Auto channel.

Sorry but the best auto channel is the "Doug" with hi's DOUG DEMURO site A very brave man got stage 2 EHS Syndrome (Google it ) Mad waving arms and over the top shouting yet still gives er "Quality" auto uploads the extra must watch bit is waiting to see what car he's in when go's full on stage 3 Ollie Williams and that bigger by the day big cube head go's POP !

You are right on that point mate, though its tight as hell!

I bet it'd be even more fun in something smaller, and lighter. Like the new Lotus Exige, on Cup 2 tires.

Fuck yes my thoughts exactly!! Absolutely stunning track and even just looking at the map, you can see it had all the best sorts of corners in there.

Constructive Critique Great watching superbikes racing on it as I did some years ago.

I'd definitely watch that. Big fan of SB Racing. I raced motocross for years as a younger man.

Hope they'll make the NSX-R for sure!

Turboxide as long as you don't say it's better than the porsche or gtr haha

No way, its a lot cooler than rivals

Pro tip: watch movies at flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching all kinds of movies these days.

@Quinn Will Definitely, I have been using Flixzone for months myself :D

@Quinn Will yup, I've been watching on Flixzone for since november myself :D

kamboj sb - What? We know everything: The people that can afford it will buy something else, the people who want it can't afford it, and it's competitors are still faster.

kamboj sb We know that the media doesnt show proper lap times from the NSX only drag times. Typical. The sad shit about this is the fact that a lot of track day drivers have Hondas and Alfas, even considering the fact of media always dumping the hell of out of those two brands. i was expecting a more impartial result, even if the nsx lost. for fuck sake get the brake pads and do a proper test, in the wet and in the dry. there's not a single lap time test of the nsx on the dry, why is that?

Because it keeps breaking, and at this time of year it rains. Also, grown ups don't all have unlimited time and money to give you an irrelevant, everything covered test. It's a light-hearted car video about a big toy - stop being so serious. You can pretend car enthusiasts around the world are, for some reason, plotting against Honda if it makes you feel better though.

Malc180s For fuck sake explain me how a dry hot lap is an irrelevant test? Dry hot lap is the most relevant test of all tests. A lot of people that drive these cars harder only do it on dry perfect conditions, never in the wet. so explain me how a dry lap comparison is irrelevant. And if you check thermal lap times the NSX was faster than 911 GT3 RS and a lot of other contenders. Its a very different result. Now explain me why...

Malc180s Which is irrelevant is a wet lap. Most of the people only drive fast on dry conditions.

umm huh?

Until the new one comes out in the years to come.

Its a great piece of car,

William Jason I'd argue, the 570S is better put against the upcoming Gt2 instead of the turbo, and the plus a better match against the Turbo S

thabo sithole nope gt2 will destroy it on track and will probably beat 675lt as well

William Jason Got that new lambo about to come out that was 3 seconds faster around the nurburgring than the 918 wait till that beast comes out.

martin srabotnik the Gt2 RS will definitely destroy both, however the standard Gt2 is more of RWD turbo which aligns perfectly with the 570S

or 488 gtb...

my thoughts exactly. NSX-R !

look what they have done in F1!

NO they need to just drop 1000 lbs and all the hybrid bullshit. Have a normal AWD system and up the boost on that V6. Then they'd be competitive.

Honda just needs to stop letting american design and engineer their cars.

.....and still you could never afford one?

check the japanese race drivers.....watch some togue races

He got kicked out

Tyler Hoeve A lot of cars have set bench marks.. much like the first gen nsx.. and the McLaren f1.. etc.

LegendInThaMakin Exactly and if it wasn't for those cars setting new benchmarks we wouldn't be were we are today with these monsters. The GTR was the newest benchmark with its dual clutch transmission back in 2009.

Tyler Hoeve your right. The GTR is either loved or hated but Godzilla is bad arse for non keyboard worriors. wasting your time replying to people that probably never owned it. is a flipping monster of a chassis/engine and has street cred, like no other. When you are a real petrolhead, I generally love most great cars irrespective of brand price etc. Bov knows his cars so just look at his fave when he drives Godzilla. nsx mid engine supercar is lovely and the 911 is iconic in its own right. Children pick, adults want it all

Tyler Hoeve Um...no it wasn't. Listen I like the GT-R and spent quite some time in them but GT-R was not a benchmark when it came to dual clutch transmissions, in fact, it was never a benchmark in that regard, great , but not as good as PDK or Ferrari's systems. It was just a very fast car in 2009, but not a benchmark, since it was still on par with 911 Turbo S, Ferrari 458, Gallardo, etc. In fact, in Japan, on their best car show, called Best Motoring, where real, actual race drivers, drive the cars on the tracks in Japan, GT-R lost directly to the Gallardo in a race, a base Gallardo, none of those Superlegera versions, that was back in 2009 or 2010, not sure, but I know that Japanese race drivers heavily criticized the GT-R and called it a one trick pony, because it was good at hot lapping for a few laps, and then everything would overheat and it would go into safe mode, while the Gallardo they said felt like it could race all day long and not break a sweat, which they mentioned as the main difference between a real supercar that is understressed on the limit and the GT-R which is very stressed on the limit. When the Japanese race drivers on a Japanese tell you that about their best car, you know it's true. Also remember that was a time when you'd lose a warranty if you used launch control more than 10 times or some oddly small number, so Nissan wasn't very confident either. It was a great and a very fast car, but it was slightly overhyped, and that created A LOT of fanboys.

derbigpr500​ I completely agree but you can't exactly just discredit the gtr like that. In 2009 it was an outrageously fast car for only 60k. The ghallardo is a legend on its own but it was also way more expensive. It's easy to criticisize the gtr now that it's aged and costs a lot more but back then it was an insane bargain.

value is subjective. it's great performance for the money. not necessary great value.

SaKuLification I thought I was the only one

I actually think the GT-R is a highly desirable car. Yeah its a lot more expensive than it used to be, but its improved a lot, especially the interior. And its still a very practical car compared to its rivals.

That interior though, its utterly 3rd world for an £80K price tag.

SaKuLification ya man... the interior looks like it belongs in a qashqai

idin1976 'CH'?

Chris Harris (on Cars)

He got kicked out

Well, it's not like Honda has no experience in that regard, they do have motorsports programmes, even with the new NSX. The old NSX was also hugely impressive for over a decade, they do know how to build a good car. But apparently that didn't really make it into this car or it just lacks a lot of refinement.

You keep forgetting that Honda has been in Formula 1 for almost 50 years now, be it as manufacturer or engine producer. They got it right with the first NSX, but this one is shit.

mrlilmatt123 and hopefully the next gen Honda will be made in Japan instead of the US.

VirusTornado it's because an American woman designed it. That's why it's shit

My beautiful and amazing mistress but it's true lol

Probably paid them off to make NSX look better. What videos are you talking about?

Look up NSX vs Huracan. There was even an article on Yahoo about this before i ever saw the video. The NSX even beat the GTR and that's also in at least two videos two, including Motor Trends direct comparison between these two cars.

when you don't like something, you'll try to bash it in a subtle, hidden way. NSX is a great techy car. sport cars enthusiast don't like the idea that a hybrid can beat their traditional cars. same happened when the Tesla started kicking their asses

Exactly

It beated Huracan but only the RWD version that has even less power. It wouldn't really stand a chance against a more powerful AWD version. Then it beated GT-R, but that was on a straight. Thanks to a little bit more power and the electric motors it's faster in straight line than a GT-R. But it's not faster on a track, that's why it's lost in this comparison.

And that's also the reason why NSX lost its consistency on track at very rapid rate

Mclaren also uses it in the P1 but as a from of limited slip device, since they couldn't be assed to use an LSD

William Levesque It comes down to cost and marketing. Mechanical bits cost a lot of money and most of these cars won't get anywhere near needing it on public roads. I like mechanical over electrical solutions but a lot of the time people just won't pay for it l.

E-Diffs don't have to use the brakes to control torque, but it's the "easy" (and lazy dumb) way to do it. Having a clutch pack in there is cheaper, but they are noisier and rougher so I guess they don't want to. And Torsen units dont handle big power so that's a no-go.

Never doubt how much money companies get convinced to siphon off to marketing/the marketing division, lol. I've seen plenty of games and movies that had a HIGHER MARKETING BUDGET than they actually spent designing/making the thing... cause they realize that superficial marketing bullshit often pays off faster and more easily than being 100% transparent, honest, and doing it RIGHT.

Its not selling. Reviews are bad, performance is worse, its extremely overpriced, only the politicians want hybrids and there are so many better cars at its price point it just doesnt have a chance.

@@edmartinezdj9034 nothing wrong with being hybrid. Honda should instead slip out some info to aftermarket tuners and then the nsx will be great. The nsx is a honda. Its main focus is reliability and longevity. So, obviously this car is capable of more power, they just didnt go all in. If aftermarket tuners figured out the ecu and how to upgrade turbos, it would be a wrap for all other brands. Imagine an nsx with upgraded turbos and a true tune. It would destroy everything. The electric motors in the NSX shut off at about 60mph. It essentially loses about 100hp after 60mph, that's why it loses in so many drag races and track events. Almost every other sports cars in this class has aftermarket tuning and part capabilities. The nsx merely has downpipes and a piggy back tune that adds like 60hp. The issue isnt the hybrid, the issue is nobody can tune these lol.

Welcome to 2020

The Honda is really fun on Road and Track

It's just born and you've thrown it in the ring with the champions. That is the way of the world though.....

No one said the fight of life would be fair. Like you said, that is the way of the world...

Deathbrewer That's why I said it.

Kronos Holy cow keep giving Honda an excuse, "give'm time" not. Honda has had over 10 years since the NSX 1.0 was discontinued ffs. Not like Honda has no experience in producing a high performance sports car. Excuses, excuses. The new NSX is an overpriced underachiever. Sad really.

Even more fun on two wheels try on You Tube BRITISH SUPERBIKE 2013 THE CADWELL PARK JUMP

DrPittenstein *real drivers

DrPittenstein car sales often say different. Who apart from noble are making analog supercars these days?

DrPittenstein the future does

Stephen Butler ..... Not in my future

Exactly, the car makers are pushing this stuff, F1 has gone hybrid to promote it and has been ruined in the process too. We need more efficient lorries, buses and taxis, more efficient supercars won't change anything.

They should have gone the "BRZ" route and make a fun car that is fast enough but perfect to drive at any speed. Trying to play catch up with the likes of Porsche and Mclaren is hard.

Yes they are,right now the lil brother of NSX are in the middle of development stage.Hope they're using the right formula for that one

And yet the NSX wins road races in stock trim. I wonder why.... Chris Harris loved the car. What you professional critics don't get is the fact that the NSX was NEVER about beating something else. It's about drive, feel, reliability and just having a great car that's easy to drive. The reviewer even in this video acknowledges how good the car is and how Honda with a single attempt have done what the GTR has taken years to evolve into. The same goes for the Porsche. It's good that so many people are critical of Honda. They must be doing something right to ruffle so many feathers. Also you've mentioned that the GTR was 60k when it first came out. What you haven't taken into consideration is that they priced the car incorrectly when it came out and had issues with the USD to YEN exchange rate at the time. The price they set wasn't what they wanted to get out of the car. Also dealerships marked up the car to 120k charging a 100% markup. The price went up quickly after that. So it was never a 60k car. Stop acting like it was.

LegendInThaMakin Why there is not a single dry lap time comparison with NSX? The car have its handicaps like straight line performance but in terms of cornering i sincerely doubt that any of the contenders get the same result on the skidpad. they still testing it on the wet, where the additional weight make it worst in terms of result. and btw everyday driving doesnt include raining all the time. it may be like that on UK but not in the most of the world. just saying what a bad excuse to avoid make a dry lap with all of them.

Irony is on a dry lap around Thermal the car did exceptionally well. 1. Porsche 918 Spyder James Sofronas 1:17.18 887 / 1665 2. Ferrari LaFerrari James Sofronas 1:18.46 963 / 1584 3. McLaren P1 James Sofronas 1:18.82 916 / 1490 4. Dodge Viper ACR (Mk V) James Sofronas 1:21.86 654 / 1541 5. Honda NSX (Mk II) Graham Rahal 1:21.90 581 / 1765 6. Dodge Viper ACR (Mk V) Alec Udell 1:21.92 654 / 1541 7. McLaren 675LT Alec Udell 1:22.62 675 / 1328 8. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) Alec Udell 1:22.64 500 / 1426 9. Veyron 16.4 Super Sport James Sofronas 1:23.01 1199 / 1888 10. SRT Viper TA Alex Gurney 1:23.40 649 / 1520 11. Aventador LP750-4 SV Alec Udell 1:23.56 750 / 1647 12. Pagani Huayra James Sofronas 1:23.76 730 / 1350 13. SRT Viper GTS James Sofronas 1:24.18 649 / 1560 14. Ferrari 458 Speciale Alec Udell 1:25.70 605 / 1451 15. Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 Alex Gurney 1:26.10 507 / 1702 16. Nissan GT-R (R35 550 PS) Alex Gurney 1:26.40 550 / 1736 17. Aston Martin V12 Vantage S Alex Gurney 1:26.60 573 / 1665 fastestlaps.com/tracks/thermal-club-raceway