Honda Pioneer vs Talon - Which Honda SxS is Right For You?

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So you've decided you want a Honda SxS, or at least want to learn more about them, but which one? The Honda Pioneer 1000-5 is a great work and all around machine, but is the Honda Talon 1000 that is more sport focused a better fit for you? We compare the two top 1000cc models from Honda Motosports and go over what Dave liked about each. After riding the Honda Pioneer 1000-5 for the last several thousand miles he has some great experience to share. The newest in the shop is the Talon 1000 4 seater UTV that has some great features for the trails, but does also give up some things found on the Pioneer. While both have the Honda Dual Clutch Transmission, the proven 1000cc motor from the legendary Africa Twin, and some great engineering, there is also things we'd all love to see updated. Check out this video to learn more about the great Honda line up and which might be the best for you.
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@tommygunss4576 Ай бұрын

Pioneer 1000-5 here. My daughter’s wheelchair fits perfectly in the bed and she loved to ride.

@gearandtread 15 сағат бұрын

That is awesome! Have fun on the trails!

@Drieeedger Ай бұрын

This was exactly what I was looking for to compare these 2 different machines from Honda, as Im just starting my quest to find the right side by side. I was blown away when I saw your subscriber count, the video quality and presentation is that of a much larger channel. You will grow quickly with content like this!

@gearandtread Ай бұрын

Hi there, Thank you so much for the kind words. I am really excited to start this new channel and your encouragement means a lot. Glad you liked the video.

@iamcharliew67 3 ай бұрын

Great job on the video, good luck!!!

@gearandtread 3 ай бұрын

Thanks, it’s exciting to start something new. Appreciate the comment!

@SGFAdventures 2 ай бұрын

Great comparison. Just got a 700-4 and really liking it!

@gearandtread 2 ай бұрын

Thanks! Please subscribe so we can grow

@rideforrestride 3 ай бұрын

Yee yee let get growing!!! Makes me want to get out and ride again! They are both awesome but i would definitely go w the Tallon!

@toriscott9285 2 ай бұрын

I really wanted a talon but cause I have big property and will probably need to do work around I got the pioneer 1000-5 trail. Thanks for the video.

@gearandtread 2 ай бұрын

The trail is a great machine! I really liked riding that model in TN.

@braysapgg1816 2 ай бұрын

The Talon 🤌

@10469 Ай бұрын

I got my 2024 pioneer this may and I couldn’t be more happy with my choice.

@gearandtread 15 сағат бұрын

Nice!

@peytonhorn2833 9 күн бұрын

Thank you! Subbed

@gearandtread 15 сағат бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

@colbydrags 2 ай бұрын

Went for a talon, ended up with a 1000-6. My little kids couldn't see out the back of the talon. I also used a ttc lift and it been great.

@gearandtread 2 ай бұрын

I think the 1000-6 with a TTC and shocks would be a beast of a Pioneer!

@gearandtread 3 ай бұрын

We are launching a brand new channel, thanks for watching and appreciate subscribing!

@jackwelker484 2 ай бұрын

Just traded my pioneer 1000 on a Talon. Hope I made the right choice. One thing I need is the capability to plow snow with the talon. The dealer said I can use the same KFI 72” plow with the talon. Hope it works as well. Thanks for the video. Enjoyed seeing the comparison.

@gearandtread 2 ай бұрын

For trails and riding I think you’ll really appreciate the difference. I never plowed with mine as I use a small tractor for work but that is one area I might give the nod to pioneer due to the seat position, visibility while plowing etc.

@holbrookaa1 3 ай бұрын

What wheel tire combo on the 1000-5? Great video.

@gearandtread 3 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! The Pioneer is rocking Raceline A95 wheels, tires on both are BFG KM3 30"

@rustytaylor7708 2 ай бұрын

Hi brother. Made it over from the late night test.

@gearandtread 2 ай бұрын

Thanks man!

@SemiReTired Ай бұрын

I have some vids riding my 21 pioneer 1000-5. Love the machine,, eyeballing the Talon for a 2nd machine

@gearandtread 15 сағат бұрын

Always good to add one more to the stable :-)

@stgraves260 Ай бұрын

Honda needs to put the CBR 1000 RR motor in the Talon. 215 HP normal aspirated.

@gearandtread Ай бұрын

That would crush the market

@stgraves260 Ай бұрын

@@gearandtread Yeah I think so too. That’s the Talons Down fall. The lack of power. A better GPS set up would be nice but I can deal with that. It’s that lack of power that drives me nuts on my 2019 Honda Talon. Honda calls me all the time about trading mine in. I just tell they why, until yall upgrade the motor what’s the point. It still has no power. Everything else is still the same.

@dmcmanus3 11 күн бұрын

OH WOW! I wonder if anyone makes a conversion kit? That would almost worth building one from the ground up if a person had the funds

@stgraves260 11 күн бұрын

@@dmcmanus3 It would easily solve the lack of power issues with the Talon. It would also keep the reliability up that Honda is known for because the lack of a turbo. I have a 2019 Talon 1000R. I bought it new in 2020 for $17k. Sense then I have installed a HCR 72” long travel suspension. Krash Offroad Custom cage, full Shock Therapy spring, Alba Racing Crusher Wheels, 33” System3 RT 320 tires. Next I’m installing the full Hess internals and HMF exhaust with X pipe. Even with all these mods I’m under $25k. Honda will have to do something pretty amazing to the next Gen Talon besides a dash relocation upgrade to make me get ride of my 2019 Talon. That or I will straight up switch brands. Can Am has a DCT now!!! And it has the power to boot.

@lloydmarche7263 7 күн бұрын

I was pleasantly surprised with my folks pioneer 700 . I ended up selling my old Honda quad and buying their pioneer. It’s fully enclosed with heat. Hard doors and glass windows . 3 negative points are Honda could do a better job sealing the cab and the cab is noisy and can get very warm .I added heat shielding and sound dampening under the seat and engine bay which helped a lot. My neighbour has the 1000 and has similar complaints.

@gearandtread 15 сағат бұрын

It's true, but riding in other machines I'm learning heat is a common theme in all of them

@tomtheman91 2 ай бұрын

So i can get a pioneer 1000-3 For cheap but they have a talon 1000x with live valve when we ride we never really go over 60 so im leaning towards the pioneer but they look like they would be tippy on hills have you ever drove up really steep hills ? We ride old coal mine hills that are grown over. Just want something my gf will feel safe in my honda rancher has done great back there.

@gearandtread 2 ай бұрын

I’ve climbed everything I’ve come across but in the Midwest it’s not like we have mountains. When I added the lift it felt more tippy but never had any issues and the thing climbed like a goat.

@garythompson9582 Ай бұрын

I have a 1000-3 but thinking about going to the talon , would love to see a drag race see how difference there is

@gearandtread 15 сағат бұрын

The Talon is a little quicker but neither are known for their speed in class.

@dmcmanus3 11 күн бұрын

I went wiht the Pioneer because I have 4 grandkids but I can almost keep up with the RZRs except in spots where head clearance is a problem like a tree hanging over the trail. When it comes to hillclimbs this old man just sets and watches

@gearandtread 15 сағат бұрын

As long as you are having fun that's all that matters!

@jcathell100 2 ай бұрын

How did u stop the rain coming in on your leg with the Honda doors

@gearandtread 2 ай бұрын

The big gaps definitely let in water. I just ordered a kit from a maker out of Alaska, he makes a seal kit. Hoping it helps.

@alanmehringer8982 2 күн бұрын

What size tire and suspension u running on the pioneer

@gearandtread 15 сағат бұрын

30x10r15 BFG KM3, Elka Stage 4 shocks all around on a Texas Tough Customs 3" Lift. Very capable machine!

@lcjjr.6714 2 ай бұрын

I’d go with the new Pioneer 6 seater! Rides like a Cadillac pickup and has no problem getting down and dirty!! 😂

@gearandtread 2 ай бұрын

I did really like the 1000-6, got to ride in in Montana and if I was buying a Pioneer that just might be the one.

@codysparkes123 14 күн бұрын

Keep trying to convince my sister to trade our 2 quads in for a pioneer that 5 seater is amazing especially since there's 4 of us always riding and camping.. but nooo she only cares about "coolness" so she wants a 2 seater rzr which is more expensive than the pioneer with 3 less seats and about a foot long

@peytonhorn2833 9 күн бұрын

Where I’m at, the pioneer is 10k more than a rzr 🤦‍♂️ I want the pioneer

@codysparkes123 9 күн бұрын

@peytonhorn2833 holy.. but I know some of the RZRs people refer to are just the basic low models with the 700 or 800 I think? I never liked Polaris so I don't follow their product line.. I just know dollar for dollar a 1000-5 pioneer is a good all rounder. You get a utility bed or seats or hell half a bed half a seat haha who wouldn't want that!? Thats gonna be my next purchase I don't give a F 😂😂

@gearandtread 15 сағат бұрын

Any way you can hit the trails is a win but it's tough to argue with the versatility of the Pioneers, I kinda miss mine for those reasons

@jeremybroderick3020 2 ай бұрын

Love Hondas always drove hondas but had more problems with the the Honda tranny then with the belt driven sxs i drive now. Sold Honda tranny is sweet but way to fickle

@gearandtread 2 ай бұрын

Hoping I have good luck with this one like I did my pioneer. Obviously you can have issues with anything but Im optimistic