yep, and see it being butchered... Definitely big wow, but not in a positive way.

​@@LukeZakI understand exactly what you mean, but I sincerely hope not. This is a museum piece and that's how it should stay. It's one of the ONLY OG Hondas that I have EVER seen.

They have fuel stabilizer for that though.

I'd still take a few days of recomissioning over rust.

Time doesn't stop for anyone or anything

@@churblefurbles Fuel stabilizer only keeps fuel good for a few years at most.

Have seen many different methods to achieve ideal storage conditions. Temp controlled bubbles are solid options. But really they need the fuel drained entirely, fog oil in the spark plug holes. Drain the coolant, brake fluid, and even then the rubber will still likely dry out. The Toyota museum has a early Celica that sits on aftermarket wheels, moved on the aftermarket wheels, and when they get to the show, they take the original tires out of vacuum sealed bags and put them on the car for the show. Then when it's done, they take them back off, put them back into vacuum sealed bags in temperature controlled, dark storage. It might be the only way to preserve old rubber without issues. But even then, rubber ages horribly fast(compared to metal). Same with some of the plastics. The oils dry out over time and they get crunchy

Yep.

Seriously they gave it to these amateur clowns

Those carbs sucked. This is why fuel injection was a huge game changer in the industry. Even though back then every mechanic was angry because they thought fuel injection was gonna be extremely hard to work on. Years later, they learned it was a huge improvement over carbs. Back then I bought an 82 Datsun/Nissan 200sx (Pre 240sx) and it was fuel injection. I bought it cheep because everyone was scared of how expensive it was to repair due to mechanics spreading nonsense because they were intimidated by it. More of a reason for me to buy them and resell. The Nissan injection engines were amazing back then. We did replace stock Honda carbs with Webbers. So much more refined than Honda carb. This car isn’t worth much because Honda can’t sell it. They are gaining tons of exposure though.

Marvel Mystery oil !

@@ryanb8736 Honda needs more exposure? Lmao

well judging from the carb there were tree sap boogers all inside it so i mean its dirty inside you just cant see it. just wipe it down after

I felt the same way.

Agree, couldn't believe they were doing that. It showed a total lack of respect for such a special car! 😠

Yea, they are a dirty bunch at TFL

That has nothing to do with the OCD that you don't have. Pathetic.

It hurt me too, i thought was alone with my thoughts

With greasy hands and arms!

Well.... its a car. It's time for it to live life a little

That’s TFL for u!

What's wrong with dirt roads??? Jeez you guys. You make it sound like they went on rock crawling.

What exactly is it you do that puts you in that position? Sounds interesting

@@myopiniongoodyouropinionbad Military vehicle restoration. Most are 40-80 years old with virtually no miles. Lowest was ~150 miles and highest was around 22K miles, with most being about 40 years old with less than 10K miles.

You left out cleaning and rebuilding the carburetor, they already said up front that this one has diaphragms in it that would have fallen apart by now.

@@jimbob3030 luckily, I deal exclusively with diesels... :D... They have simple pumps.... But yes, rubber seals and things like diaphragms in pumps and pressure switches are often a source of leaking and issues.

@@ConfidentialTrust With your diesel knowledge specific to bringing old diesels back to running condition, can I ask a simple question? I have a stepvan with a cummins 4bta that has been sitting with fuel in it for around 2 years, the fuel was freshly filled before I stopped driving it and has been sitting with a full tank all this time. My mechanic says I could just put a diesel additive in it and a few days later run it, but online I read that old diesel can ruin the high pressure fuel pump and says I shouldn't do that. Should I trust the mechanic, or should I trust what I read online that suggests I should drain the old fuel and replace with new fuel and replace the fuel filter before trying to run it at all? Sounds like it will be a bit of work to drain all that fuel, and I'm not sure how I'd do that other than to try to siphon it out with a garden hose from the filler neck. The stepvan has an 18 foot bed so there is fuel in a long fuel line, should I try to drain that too, because the additive won't get in there? I do have a diesel heater that could use the old fuel if I must drain it, just trying to avoid the hassle of trying to siphon it out if I don't have to as I don't have a pump to do that and would have to siphon fuel the old fashioned way of sucking on a hose to get it to where it will drain out of the filler neck.

I,m sure it will be pretty much ruined when they get done with whatever they are going to do with it.

As soon as he hit the starter I had to quit watching, hacks.

@@arlo4051 yea they should have at least started with pulling the plugs. Inspect, especially look out for rust, pour a little ATF and go have a beer before even turning it over by the crank. Ugh. 😩

seriously, oil is fine?!

@@md64 no kidding, conventional oil degrades over time, every idiot knows this.

Yes...and floors !

Absolutely unacceptable. I would be so pissed

Dirty hands inside, pouring coolant without a spout, driving on gravel road... so many fails in this video...

I am feeling the same way alex!

Driving it without checking the water circulation wasn't very bright either.

it was a turd in 84 and still a turd now. Yet still these clowns have no business messing with this car. Send it to Jay.

*knew . they make crap now

@@Foxontherun2yeah I should only be able to get 300k out of my 24 CRV hybrid with basic maintenance. Real crap.

@@Foxontherun2 know*** troll, they make some of the best vehicles out there

@@eddymahon1503 you aint too good knowing the difference between millage and longevity are ya. I hope you think a vehicles age and millage are the same thing , i really hope youre that dumb.

@@user-do9ir8lv2m *made. they make crap now.

Yolo, but true. This deserved the extra mile treatment. If it was toyota it would have been ok

Other worry is the cambelt which could easily be brittle after so long. That;ll be a bent valve at the very least.

TFL always keeps running vehicles when they're overheating, usually at WOT. lol.

​@@RickysHPMaybe they were trying to reach the non-existent VTEC. 😅

exactly they were more worried about getting themselves back then damaging the engine

@@damothekiing Well, they were on a lonely dirt road... in 1984, no cell phones to call for help. Makes sense.

Honda know how to package a car for 40 years that the mice didn't destroy the car. Mice find their way into everything.

Big mistake when they cant even fix a lawn mower..

@@djsi38tIt’s because they need to change gas tank, lines, hoses, etc. you can’t find new parts for this. This is why Honda can’t sell it to public. These were known as throw away cars. Cheap metal and parts that corroded and fell apart. So they are gonna make with what they have and give good content while having fun and make money doing it. It’s just a cheap Honda.

We used to jack up the front corner to bleed those , they could be very stubborn

Well NOW I know why my car used to overheat lol

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I’m sure they know that. Problem is old sensor won’t kick fans on to cool it. Bad technology back then. On hot summer days, temps would climb in these. You had to crank heat up to drain it from engine. So glad they don’t build them like this anymore.

Government has made cheap cars a thing of the past !

Your government doesn't allow the production of such vehicles anymore.

Gonna have to bleed the EPA first

The government has determined that this car poses an existential threat to humanity.

You are all so full of it! It’s the “market” that has made cars like this mostly unavailable new today. If your are being truly handset with yourselves, something quite similar to this is available today, society and “car enthusiasts” in particular view simple cars like this as “for the poor” or “penalty boxes” look at trucks and suvs, these were not regulated into existence. In fact, the three largest us-american auto companies marketed those things into popularity with ideas of “safety” “ruggedness” “manliness” and lots of other nonsense. The ‘gubment is not causing your problems, you are.

It needs a new tank. That was the major problem. New gas just ate at the metal inside and turned to sludge. Remember you can’t find parts. So they worked with what they had. They did it for fun.

If I recall correctly, it's 4 turns lock-to-lock, so pretty easy to steer. I had the exact same car. I probably would've just cleaned the original plugs!

@@gasolinefumes I’ve had plenty of old school late 80’s early 90’s rack & pinion (manual steering) Hondas. I much prefer it over power steering. Feels like a go-cart with lots of feedback.

@@hondrta I currently drive a 2000 Insight. I removed the EPS and it has that 80s/90s steering feel now.

Honest, affordable, great mileage, easy to drive, cheap and simple to maintain, and it's perfectly functional in this day and age. However, modern regulation would never allow such a car to built. That tells you just how much we've lost control of policy making in this country.

Honestly, I would change a few things about these cars, having owned a 1990. Disc brakes all around would be nice. No vacuum-controlled carburetor, fuel injection will give it near 100hp, and that's plenty. Timing chain instead of timing belt for longer life. I don't mind 400 extra pounds for safety features, unlike most. But yes, leaving the rest of it would make an entirely desirable car.

You wouldn’t be allowed to sell them today

It's very like the old heads at japanese companies like Honda understand this but government safety and economy regulations wouldn't allow for it.

Modern regulations kill anything like this for the North American Market. This is why India and China have 5K$ cars and we don't.

Probably was the tfl guys who bought those. I tried a set of E3’s on an ecoboost once. Lasted less than a year, maybe 6 months. Definitely the shortest-lived set of plugs I ever put on a vehicle. Great marketing but didn’t live up to it.

they probaly paid the most..and gonna milk it in the next 20 videos....for the likes and views...lmao

@@lawnside82 AND they sprayed gas and coolant all over a museum grade engine bay! Facepalm

honda temp gauge from that era are known to be inaccurate. if it start moving from the mid point it's already too hot.

They make it simple

Timing Belt ASAP; 40 years, amazed it hasn’t broken.

That was my first thought. It might be fine based on the other rubber components being OK, but I would've at least looked at it!

AMC pacer ?

Glad someone said this, it was the first thing I was worried about! Very poor not to change it after all that time

Had an '84 Accord--similar engine, w/ the 3-barrel CVCC engine (1829cc, 86 BHP). Cambelt was a 60K item, so I had mine changed at 55K ("interference" engine)...The carburetors on those are very complex; when a poor-idling/stalling condition on mine couldn't be rectified by tuneups/carb-adjustments/cleaning, a new $900 carb was said to be "the only fix". Never found out for sure; I traded it in on a '91 Integra...

I agree this car was rare as hens teeth

uh what now? its not a museum piece its just an old car thats not really that old... wtf are you smoking lol

@@LeFingal how is an 84 Civic, VIN #6 with 79 miles on it not worth some respect?

@@ifixthings86 It's a Honda... its a Civic, its not a ferrari, or a rare car, its not like you cant buy one used, and its ugly too, not much of an engine, not the comfort of a mercedes, its a car 1 year older than me, what's so special about this car? because it's a vintage? nah.... because it has 79 miles, well thats not so weird, because it was never eligible for sale, so it could not rly get more miles... nah you just have no clue about what cars that belongs in a museum pal.. a Ford-T sure, a honda civic hell no!

@@LeFingal Imagine pretending to be a car enthusiast with an attitude like this.

@@LeFingal Spencer is accurate. you are by no means an auto enthusiast and born into the wrong millennia to understand the importance of this car.

I can Imagine worse carsto just get to drive for free. lol

@@RunawayTrain2502 my parents owned a GM franchise, you’re definitely right about that! My favorite demo was an Oldsmobile Trofeo with the touchscreen. It was absolutely mind blowing to me back then and seemed so futuristic.

"...homely, cheap, reliable car... " That is why I love it so much and wish someone made something like this today that was sold in the US.

He's not very good at it - he doesn't know how to pull the choke out, cranks a car without checking the condition of the timing belt... yeah mediocre at best.

@@the_kombinatorWhy bother checking belt. They were not gonna replace it anyway. It was about getting it running while making content and having fun doing so. It’s not like someone will be driving this around. It can’t be sold.

@@ryanb8736 LMAO I'm sure it'll be more interesting with bent valves and piston damage. Reeeeeeeeeeeeee

Honda temp gauges from the 80s are liars. When it starts moving off center it's already at 98C. Won't boil immediately but it's very close. Easily one of my biggest minor complaints about my EF. I wish i knew of a way to make it like my Audi which has actual accurate gauges.

Honda started to decline from about ‘08-‘09..,. That was the last time a Honda Accord was reasonably popular, since then it’s popularity has declined.

Still the best secondhand car you can find.

@@paulsz6194 In my view, what made the 80's and early 90's Hondas so great was the "just right" designs and details. Exactly what you needed and nothing more, with jewel like engines. They are still well made vehicles, but that perfect size, design, etc. is gone.

@@whymaniawhy yes, they were. But the Koreans have overtaken Honda especially when it comes to Hybrids / EV’s , Honda was at the forefront in ‘99 when it released the Insight but for various reasons, failed to gain a sizeable share of the Hybrid market.

I'd say through the 8th Gen Civic.

They are not gonna hurt anything. It’s just a car that will sit forever anyway. Can’t be sold.

@@ryanb8736 bet it would make a difference if it were a 1-of-1 Bugatti. The fact is, there’s a gradient at play here, and even though this is a rather pedestrian car that indeed can’t be sold, there’s no such thing as “can’t be broken”, because they almost did. They fall below the gradient of mechanical expertise even on a car like this. I really enjoyed their Model T and Willys MB ridealongs. But let’s face it, they’re not mechanics and this video proves it. I hope more revivals aren’t in their future until they get more practice behind the scenes because this was a little embarrassing to watch.

Came here to say this exactly. I've wrenched on torsion bar Hondas for 20 years and can attest to how much they need proper OEM spec plugs. E3... 🤦‍♂️

So you did no repairs at all, but you changed the clutch? You can’t have it both ways 😂 You lost all credibility!

@@ryanb8736 Replacing the clutch plate is like replacing the brake pads. It's not a repair inasmuch as it's a maintenance item on ALL manual transmission cars.

Government won’t allow that.

@@waterloo123100 Fuck the government!!! I would rather have a tiny fuel efficient slow car than any fast huge gas hog.

Problem is corrosion inside fuel tank. It needs to be changed, but you won’t find a new one anywhere. So they just made it run with what simple resources they had. This video was about fun content. They also know upset people making comments makes them millions. That’s their end goal. This car will go back to museum and never be driven again probably. It can’t be sold.

Bc other drivers don’t know to how to give space and be considerate to other drivers and everybody’s always in a hurry these days with a chance of causing accidents.

@@AbandonedExplorationUrbex1979 I drive a 1989 Volvo 240 with over 300k miles. It was a slow car when new, I know all to well about the giant trucks getting mad because I am not going from 0 to 80 MPH in 2 seconds.

Theres a lot of cars and trucks and suvs man those are always the top 3. Dont be scared wussy grow a pair and live a little

Why be afraid, there were big trucks driving around when these were new. I had a new 85 Honda Accord LX in 85 and a 72 Chevy heavy half pu. Its not the vehicles - it's people that are the problem!

@@robb4866 Yes, it is the people driving them. It just so happens that most of the people who are going to drive like that are driving the trucks and SUVs and not a Toyota Corolla or something like that. If I were afreaid, I would get a larger vehicle. I have a 1995 Tercel as well which I drive more than the other car, and it is a little tin can. I can't speak for the other person who is afraid, but for me it is just highly annoying to have a giant truck riding 2 inches from your bumper, flashing their lights, and getting mad when you are absolutely flooring it anyway. And then half of the time they fly around and slam on the brakes.

In the video they said he took it back to his shop and cleaned it with an ultrasonic 3 times.

Watch the video. He used one three times.

Hero The Shuttle 4x4 you meant, use wiki to see we what it was. Many cheap Asian imports in Swiss, cheap 4x4 cars. Who called you a Hero, what did you do ?

Nah, just fill it up with gas and drive it. That car honestly needs a full service to drive to California. Change all the fluids, all the belts and rad hoses, brake hydraulics, rebuild the carburetor properly, THEN drive it carefully and see how it goes. Why take a chance. I always ask my customers...would you fly in an airplane that was last serviced in 1984? So why drive it down the highway at 65mph....things get exciting at 15-20mph when there are no brakes....ask autotopiaLA

@@jdc5577 A vehicle like this shouldn't be driven more than around the parking lot, driving it on the public roads is 100% going to cause damage. By the time it gets there, every dried out old gasket and so on will be pissing fluid everywhere, just leave it on display.

Your right atleast a few times a year and follow regular maintenance tio

No point. They wanted to keep it with no miles as a show piece for all these decades. Now that car isn’t worth much and can’t be sold, this is all about making a fun video.

Keep in mind, these were throw away cars. It was a 5k car new.

This video is only for fun test drive. It will go back and sit at showroom forever. Nobody will drive it after this. Car can’t be sold. So no point in changing parts.

I still drive cars that are simple. I refuse to drive modern ugly trash. And the best cars are big. The laws have mandated new cars to be Fugly ununique trash that is hard to work on. While I dont like Hondas at all and I don't like this one this car is still better than anything built today

​@@erickricharson5196 Spot on, cars are thicker for safety yet dont have bumpers anymore either, so its very easy to crunch up or separate their plastic moulding off when parking! I like both big and small old cars though.

Simple? These cars were nightmares. Terrible carbs. Fuel tanks that rusted on inside. Engines that loved to overheat. New cars built these days are so simple and last 10 times longer. I can tell you were never a mechanic since 80’s like I was. Old cars were the worst built and designed. Worst materials too.

@@erickricharson5196This car is not built better than anything built these days. You clearly never worked on cars. This is something simple people who can’t afford new cars say. I’ve heard it thousands of times. Thats why I laugh every time I hear it. 80’s and 90’s cars were throw away cars. They are fun to look at and drive for memories sake. Just wouldn’t want to live with one.

@@dankline9162Trucks have bumpers on them. They also fold up 10 times faster than a car. My friend just hit a Tree with her newer Chevy truck doing 40. She died instantly. Few other car have hit that same tree with less damage and they walked. Trucks fold up. So those steel bumper create a travel pattern for deep inertia travel deep into the driver. Plastic bumpers with crumple bars hidden underneath are designed to impact downward, while saving driver. I was an insurance adjuster for years and seen so many trucks totaled from small accidents. Then see these small cars get hit three times harder with little damage. Tons of people died in old cars. Even the full frame cars crushed so easy. Safety of cars these days is amazing. The only unsafe ones sold today are 4Runner and Wrangler.

We had this same model year with the US "wagovan" moniker. ISTR the seats were vinyl, definitely not houndstooth, and ours had AC. We did vacations from socal to utah with a family of 5 and a roof rack. We had to turn off AC going up hills, and I have no idea how we all fit. My sister and I both learned to drive on it, and after it was totaled by a head-on collision vs a median-hopping Ford Granada almost a decade later, we replaced it with a similar vintage 2-door honda wagon that lasted into the late 90s before it succumbed to the harsh winters of the midwest and colorado when my sister took it to college.

Too small to sleep in Wagon !

That looks like dirt, not rust. Last minute mod? Not sure what you mean.

You're seeing things

Dealer add ons are terrible. Everything should be done at factory. No car should ever come without AC, mirrors, etc. They only did it so manufacturing was cheap. They had to cut cost. They let dealer make the extra money. They still sell the part anyway.

Family crab you need ?

Next video it gets driven through a car wash after a four hour highway drive covered in tar and bugs, I guarantee it lol. it'll probably get a couple stone chips and some curb rash for good measure.

I wouldn't let these guys get my lawnmower running.

Thanks for the tip!

Too bad it's been permanently damaged.