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Honda umk-431 brushcutter repair

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Do It Yourself!

Do It Yourself!

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Here I try to repair my Honda UMK-431 brushcutter. I bought this brushcutter a while back and had planned to actually swap the complete engine with a spare GX-31 engine from a tiller that I have. Yet I feel tempted to instead repair the original engine.
I replaced the piston and pistonrings and I honed the cylinder in an earlier repair. Yet I still experience low compression and even have over-pressure in the crankcase. So lets open up and grind the valveseating and see if this improves compression.
You will allso see mee apply liquid gasket and do a valve timing adjustment. let's see if it will run better.
Please help me by giving feedback/commenting regarding the repair but also regarding the video, any suggestion is welcome.
off course are you welcome to subscribe! I plan to add more video's on all sorts of DIY projects!

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@MrmachineELF
@MrmachineELF 3 жыл бұрын
I like the paper trick for the gasket application 👍🏼 I usually use the corner of a small plastic bag and cut a small hole in the end . Check your piston ring gaps are correctly placed 👍🏼
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment!
@diolch6849
@diolch6849 2 жыл бұрын
The best video on a small strimmer engine well detailed help me a lot many THANKS
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback!
@user-hh1ny3mm3j
@user-hh1ny3mm3j 4 жыл бұрын
Чётко .Без лишней болтовни и всё понятно .
@Super_Natural_Power
@Super_Natural_Power 3 жыл бұрын
I think mine i hv to change those valve guides! I was shocked to see no valve seals thr in my gx31. Nice video. I watched yyour video just to confirm GX31 do not comes with valve seals.. Nice video mate... Hope you soon figured out ur issue..
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comment!
@jjryansea
@jjryansea 3 жыл бұрын
Loved your rebuild video. I just wish you had not used fast motion on the reassembly. Thanks for the GX31 breakdown and assembly.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thank you for watching and your feedback, I will consider an new assembly video of the gx31!
@jjryansea
@jjryansea 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn thank you. Much appreciated.
@user-ll3mm8zk8x
@user-ll3mm8zk8x 6 ай бұрын
Triangle mark on cam gear pointing down for top dead centre?
@fundiyador3150
@fundiyador3150 4 жыл бұрын
We've got the same problem.. It's an engine blowby.. There's a combustion leak somewhere in the piston and liner or in a valve stem. Crack in a liner and piston will show up when it is heated and pressured.
@bpetnoi1472
@bpetnoi1472 4 жыл бұрын
OK I will throw in my two cents. You said you honed the cylinder. After honing did you pull the compression rings into the cylinder and check end gap? If the gap is too large either the rings are wrong or you over honed the cylinder. Also what grit did you use for the cylinder honing? If the grit is too large the engine will smoke and have blow by until the rings wear the cylinder smoother. Rings. Even if they have the proper end gap they must be installed correctly or they will pass oil from the cylinder walls up into the combustion chamber. Since you are indicating oil being blown into the crankcase breather it is most likely a piston ring bypass issue. These engines are designed to run in all positions so it is possible you are sucking oil past the intake valve guide into the combustion chamber causing the blue smoke. If the head has removable valve guides that might address that issue. Most likely Honda doesn't replace them just offers replacement heads. My next statement is going to sound a little silly, but are you sure you are using standard gas not oil/gas mixture? Sorry for asking as you seem more than competent as a mechanic.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very elaborate response to my video. The honing might cause the issue, but since I used a very fine grid on a caliper honing set I do not suspect over honing, I measured the ring gap in the proper way and the gap is way to big, I'm having a hard time finding reasonable priced better quality rings to solve the issue, for about 10 years ago I swapped rings on a gx25 which back then I could pick up at the local hardware store, those times are long gone unfortunately. And yes, I'm using straight gas and actually always use aspen 4 on all my four stroke equipment.
@niahmargarett7118
@niahmargarett7118 Жыл бұрын
Sir gd evening mayron ba kayo gear head kasama inner rod
@keithnoneya
@keithnoneya 4 жыл бұрын
Look forward to part 2 on this. I have a Husqvarna 224L with basically has a Honda GX25 in it. Thanks for sharing Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Thank you for your comment, I will make a follow up but have had little time and having trouble sourcing the correct piston rings. I have the gx25 as well as a spare. I swapped rings on that one long time ago, food engine, has an overhead cam. Best regards
@keithnoneya
@keithnoneya 4 жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn Got to thinking about it, if the GX35 has a larger bore, try using those rings and cut them down so the gap is a little tighter. Here's a link I found to some good info. You may have to use your browser to translate the page, but the manuals after download are in English. rentamaxcr.com/content/9-soporte-tecnico Just in case you may need it, I'm uploading a video right now on how to change the rocker arms on the GX25/35 on my channel. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
@chlalexterieur4026
@chlalexterieur4026 10 ай бұрын
very good job man !!
@mfnjuke
@mfnjuke 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! It did look like you used the same valve clearance for intake and outtake. What clearances did you use if not the recommended .012 intake, .015 outtake?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I did, this because I do not have the correct feeler gauges, I had to use the closest metric alternative, this also because I do feel this is not affecting my problem solving work. I have broken down the engine again and understand more about the most likely root cause, working on that video right now, will release soon!
@8910d
@8910d Жыл бұрын
Great video! Would a 4 inch diameter puller be large enough to remove the flywheel?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes that would work probably! Good luck!
@johnkaaria7855
@johnkaaria7855 4 жыл бұрын
Been having a problem with low compression, and am sure to try check the valves now. Thanks. Had not thought of that... Btw, what's that gel you applied before grinding the pistons? And is there an alternative?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
I using valve grinding past for the valves, am not aware of an alternative, best regards!
@lunagenovevacoronasanchez5939
@lunagenovevacoronasanchez5939 2 жыл бұрын
Donde puedo encontrar piezas para este tipo de motor. Honda C31.4
@jandryindacochea8988
@jandryindacochea8988 Жыл бұрын
Yo repare 1 de las mismas y prendió todo bien pero el único problema esq no me sube aceite para los balancines no se qué hacer eh revisado y todo bien
@progreen9370
@progreen9370 4 жыл бұрын
He is professional
@pintortoninho6465
@pintortoninho6465 Жыл бұрын
Top top
@ricardoromanowski3073
@ricardoromanowski3073 4 жыл бұрын
Oil coming from the crankcase breather is a sign of blowby at the piston. Thus either your rings do not seal properly, or your rings do not seal properly. Thats from a worn bore, or shitty/worn rings usually. Shitty rings can be either assembled in the wrong way (e.g. top down) or the ring gap is too large, or the preload of the rings is too low. If it does not burn lots of oil (blue smoke) it is a problem of the compression rings only.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
That is correct! The rings I mounted have a way to big ring gap, note that 1 millimeter. That is what is causing oil consumption, that rings where provided with the. Chinese piston kit I bought, will have to source original ones to solve the issue!
@ricardoromanowski3073
@ricardoromanowski3073 4 жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn You might get away sourcing another chinese piston kit or an oversize chinese piston kit whilst only using the rings. This will total in a bit more tension on the bore, thus a bit of power loss due to friction, but you should have a bit more room to gap them properly if you're putting them into a bore, say, 1/4th of a millimeter too small.
@sellshortebay
@sellshortebay Жыл бұрын
Great video really helped me , but what sealer did you used for the gasket, the red stuff? thanks
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn Жыл бұрын
Thank you! The red sealer is a liquid gasket, available in many different variants and colors.
@sellshortebay
@sellshortebay Жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn Thanks buddy:)
@WanderingSawMan
@WanderingSawMan 3 жыл бұрын
Great work sir.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@adinarayanagattem6971
@adinarayanagattem6971 3 жыл бұрын
good work sir
@deekshag.v7414
@deekshag.v7414 4 жыл бұрын
I had problem with honda umk 435 t when acelarat raises there is a sound in engine
@leeeon420
@leeeon420 3 жыл бұрын
habe auch eine umk 431 motorsense. bei vollgas geht der motor aus. Zündspule defekt?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thanks for watching, I don't think the coil should be the issue since it is a fixed timing, most likely dirt in carburetor, at full throttle the engine is probably not getting sufficient fuel flow, please rebuild or swap the carburetor!
@BenHelweg
@BenHelweg 2 жыл бұрын
The horrible clattering sound is your first warning sign that something isn't right.
@62gpaolo
@62gpaolo 4 жыл бұрын
I think it s better dont brush with rotate still brush the crankase brather. Good job !
@tahraqapie4783
@tahraqapie4783 4 жыл бұрын
fantastic job
@basavarajpolicepatil4859
@basavarajpolicepatil4859 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks sar
@dnilodiamun3404
@dnilodiamun3404 Жыл бұрын
TDC before setting the valve clearance?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn Жыл бұрын
Yes, that is correct
@9willand
@9willand 4 жыл бұрын
Hello thanks for the video, I had the following question; how did you position the piston with crankshaft relative to the gear that drives the valves. best regards
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you for watching! I put the piston in TDC to dead center and positioned the cam gear in a neutral position so that both valves are in the closed position.
@9willand
@9willand 4 жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn nice, thanks.
@Super_Natural_Power
@Super_Natural_Power 3 жыл бұрын
On the timing gear, look for one special tooth... Theres one dent/cut/slot... Position it on top...Then on the magneto fins theres one special fin which has a cut... Allign tht to one small nipple on the body of engine. Once both is checked, slowly lowered your piston.
@eduardoarevalo4547
@eduardoarevalo4547 Жыл бұрын
Medida en mm la luz de valvulas?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn Жыл бұрын
Hello! I do not know, but I'm sure you could find the answer to that question online!
@eduardoarevalo4547
@eduardoarevalo4547 Жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn Umk435 honda luz de valvulas?
@prasadm5283
@prasadm5283 4 жыл бұрын
Hi sir valve gap and coil gap clearance?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
Google honda gx31 enginespecs and you'll find it!
@danilotuazon5535
@danilotuazon5535 3 жыл бұрын
Its good tutorial.
@jh-ik9ub
@jh-ik9ub 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much of repair tips! Can you please show too throttle control (handle) parts constitution?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The throttle has various handle designs, which one do you have?
@jh-ik9ub
@jh-ik9ub 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn Thanks for fast react! Same type, which you have, mine go broken and not sure, how to assemble it :)
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Aha, okaj, understand, I will see what I can do..
@jh-ik9ub
@jh-ik9ub 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn Thank you so so much in advance! And too these very helpful videos ❤️
@vireakyuth5051
@vireakyuth5051 3 жыл бұрын
hello sir. i have problem with machine won't start . i dont know what is the main problem at all . any suggestions... please share !
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
First check if you have spark! Second check if you have compression, third check if youbhave fuel in combustion chamber. Use starter gas to test engine or pour a few drops of fuel through the plug hole.
@brentonmiddlemiss7873
@brentonmiddlemiss7873 3 жыл бұрын
did you adjust both valves without moving the flywheel the second time
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I did, do you think this could affect the outcome?
@Techandagritips
@Techandagritips 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@peteboe2114
@peteboe2114 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, have you considered the oil outlet valve in the bottom of the crankcase. It’s meant to stop oil draining into carburettor but still relieve crankcase pressure.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Pete, thank you for watching and for your comment! A good one as well. I have not really considered it but believe to have assembled it correctly. Can this 'wear out you think? Best regards!
@chitthaemaung4805
@chitthaemaung4805 2 жыл бұрын
good
@dilu2688
@dilu2688 4 жыл бұрын
Hello thanks for the video, So am currently fixing a parazzini engine, and its smoking really bad, Also at one point oil came out of the exhaust. What could it be.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, thanks for watching and your. Comment, I don't know that type of engine, hard for me to give any recommendations on how to solve the problem, but learning to understand how your engine works will help you to sort out any issue! Good luck with that!
@myrnaglodoviza5326
@myrnaglodoviza5326 2 жыл бұрын
Why dont you show the filler gauge clearance
@Mihu24
@Mihu24 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like garbage after rebuild. Why?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn Жыл бұрын
Agree! The heatshield of the exhaust is loose, therfore vibrating! Best regards!
@pappu1066
@pappu1066 5 ай бұрын
Iske parts nahi milte hai
@brianpayne3468
@brianpayne3468 4 жыл бұрын
First, get the measurement of the compression that you're getting. For the low compression, it is either the rings or the valves that are not sealed properly. For the rings, you have to assemble it correctly. Make sure the rings are facing the correct position to get good compression. For the valves, have you do a leak test. The valves need to be sealed tight as well. Please get the genuine rings from Honda.
@progreen9370
@progreen9370 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm using the same trimmer, I noticed the airfilter is full engine oil and spitting engine oil from muffler. And it's hard to start. Can you me help pls.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
Hej, start by checking oil level to high, otherwise it looks like similar problem as I have where the wear and gap of the piston rings and piston need to be checked, other possibility is that the valve guides are worn causing oil consumption, best to disassemble the engine and check/measure if your within tolerances. Good luck!
@kolyaroma
@kolyaroma 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Please advise what is better to get, Honda UMK 435 or Makita EM4351UH?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
Hej, I am not familiar with the makita, but assuming it is a 4 stroke the difference probably is little. I would choose the Honda if the price difference is limited. The technology and quality probably are the same.
@Genetic18
@Genetic18 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 what tool did you use to remove that part?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I used a universal puller to remove the flywheel. Here is a link, I have the 3 armed version; www.biltema.se/bil---mc/bilverktyg/avdragare/avdragare-2000019462
@Genetic18
@Genetic18 2 жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn Thank you very much!
@user-wd8yg9fq9v
@user-wd8yg9fq9v 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Where are you from?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching, I in Sweden
@user-wd8yg9fq9v
@user-wd8yg9fq9v 2 жыл бұрын
Great~ I enjoyed the video I'm korean.
@angelsoriani3469
@angelsoriani3469 4 жыл бұрын
Me quiero comprar una honda 450 es buena ??? Se compara con la Stihl 450 ??? Digannn cual compro ????
@brentonmiddlemiss7873
@brentonmiddlemiss7873 3 жыл бұрын
How do you lubricate the honda brushcutter head
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is a grease nipple on the brush cutter head! Otherwise you could open it up and pack it with grease manually
@lokeshkumargurjar5558
@lokeshkumargurjar5558 3 жыл бұрын
Can you help me with the name of two pins which you took out at 11:00-11:04min of the video.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! These are the pushrods!
@dragodolce7233
@dragodolce7233 4 жыл бұрын
Bravo
@polsaggio
@polsaggio 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@leandrocolla4414
@leandrocolla4414 4 жыл бұрын
Qual seria a folga de válvulas ideal
@zageychannel1556
@zageychannel1556 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Size of oilseal for 4stroke
@rabbitfootedkitty1339
@rabbitfootedkitty1339 4 жыл бұрын
What?
@Super_Natural_Power
@Super_Natural_Power 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@alexbilenkin3418
@alexbilenkin3418 4 жыл бұрын
do I understand correctly-- oil pushed to carb because of leaking valves? anyway, love you work.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
Hej, thanks for your response, the crankcase vent is connected by a hose to the airfilterhousing, carb then sucks in oil, causing smoke!
@alexbilenkin3418
@alexbilenkin3418 4 жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn that part i understand, have the same engine, never used, bought it on ebay, it pumped half of oil out of that tube even before I started. So my ? is-did that was fixed after You done with repair. Thanks.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexbilenkin3418 Hello again, no it did not solve my problem, only partially, I did change pistons and rings earlier, it could be that I have mounted the rings in the wrong way, or that I have honed the. Cylinder to much, that I have yet to check, have been too busy with the Seat Altea XL.
@alexbilenkin3418
@alexbilenkin3418 4 жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn You did replaced horn, what the problem now? If for some reason I don't return GX31 and fix it, I'll update You.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexbilenkin3418 nothing special on the Seat but routine maintenance, fix that Honda! I will make follow up video by popular demand!
@felixbertobargayo519
@felixbertobargayo519 4 жыл бұрын
oil push to carb becaus of bad piston ring replace piston ring
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
That is correct, the chinese rings I used here have to big gap causing blow by and oil consumption! Thanks for watching
@pravendrakumar2816
@pravendrakumar2816 4 жыл бұрын
Sir overheat ho rahi h white
@leonilominer7149
@leonilominer7149 2 жыл бұрын
Kuya my piyesa b kyo yan
@dorelidulgheru9313
@dorelidulgheru9313 3 жыл бұрын
O singură greșeală ! Siliconul nu se curăță la peria abrazivă, deoarece se strica fata de etanșare a piesei, salvarea este siliconul dar nu este corect.
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your reply! I am not really worried about damaging the mating surface of the castings since I re-apply silicone gasket again making a sufficient seal! Thank you for watching and your concern!
@RL-fk5jw
@RL-fk5jw 4 жыл бұрын
can you make a video about the carburetor please?
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 4 жыл бұрын
That is a Good suggestions, would you like to see taking apart, cleaning and assembly?
@RL-fk5jw
@RL-fk5jw 4 жыл бұрын
@@tmdrtn yeah, that will be great. and please also how to diagnosis carburetor problem video. thanks!
@ramirogutierrez9782
@ramirogutierrez9782 3 жыл бұрын
Hi my friend where I can buy a genuine GX25cc and Gx35 Honda's
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to tell, depends on your location, Google them
@ramirogutierrez9782
@ramirogutierrez9782 3 жыл бұрын
Connecticut state
@tmdrtn
@tmdrtn 3 жыл бұрын
I sorry my friend Im not in the states, greetings from Sweden!
@pravendrakumar2816
@pravendrakumar2816 4 жыл бұрын
Kiya reason h
@harshvadhansingh5108
@harshvadhansingh5108 4 жыл бұрын
वायर खींचने वालाकैसे लगाएं
@philldownes8685
@philldownes8685 2 жыл бұрын
should of cleaned all the carbon shit off the valve before even attempting to use the valve grinding paste. can then see is the valve stem has any deformaties..... and actually would put new valves in anyway.. and only use those valves for grinding in process.
@joyler2446
@joyler2446 3 жыл бұрын
You need to talk to tell me what you’re doing
@ashifkhan8446
@ashifkhan8446 2 жыл бұрын
Supar
@user-lo8he4yr2s
@user-lo8he4yr2s 2 жыл бұрын
@sahebjada4747
@sahebjada4747 5 жыл бұрын
Es machine ke har parts ke nam par video banaye sir please
@sahebjada4747
@sahebjada4747 5 жыл бұрын
Hindi me only hind
@govindsingh2633
@govindsingh2633 4 жыл бұрын
Abe samjhana nahi to dikha Kyo rha ha
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