Yuriy you deserve so much more views for what you do. Keep it up, man.
@YuriyMotso2 жыл бұрын
One day at a time. 👍🏻 I already know how I’m going to do the next test. 🙂
@zroger732 жыл бұрын
Just as expected. :) The system did not "fail miserably". The radar is designed to detect metallic objects while the camera is designed to identify vehicles and pedestrians. It's not designed to detect animals, trees, plastic garbage bins, or other non-metallic objects that aren't pedestrians.
@YuriyMotso2 жыл бұрын
Well two things: it did miserably fail at stopping for cardboard boxes. 😂 however I guess my misunderstanding of how the system works is to blame. However, I have an idea already for test 2. Will work on that soon.
@budphillips5968 Жыл бұрын
I watched an official Honda video a couple years ago about this. It showed the system working fine with a cardboard cutout of a pedestrian in front of it. The fact that you imply the truck won't stop if a human steps in front of it is terrifying
@tonyhuynh6789 Жыл бұрын
i tested this by drive my brand new Mdx the garage door and boxes. Of course it works, Acurawatch is more advance than for what we have for honda
@zroger73 Жыл бұрын
@@tonyhuynh6789, AcuraWatch is nothing more than Acura's marketing name for Honda Sensing. Same suppliers. Same components. Same capabilities.
@user-vb6hm7xl7i8 ай бұрын
Real person try...Who have quick reflex to look go out if it fails....😊😊😊
@repentorperish4882 жыл бұрын
When I did my test drive on pre purchase the salesman had me drive on the freeway. At 65 mph the vehicle performed flawlessly before re-ending the car in front and slowed down just fine with 2 car length set. I was freaked out but very satisfied.
@msevenm73 ай бұрын
If not mistaken the sensor is using camera to detect the object in front, and I believe the program has been code to detect car/people in front and not random objects. Maybe you care try to print a huge car image or just the outer shape of a car and paste it on the boxes. Its a good effort that you choose to do this kind of content to give awareness to people that we cant rely 100% on the technologies it self but it will be better if you can set up a better testing scenarios.
@ovidio7222 жыл бұрын
Try stacking the boxes in the shape (silhouette) of a car or pickup. If it stops then you may be correct about the algorithm.
@alexanderbelov46042 жыл бұрын
Yuriy, you are a real adventurer👏
@tatyanamotso36192 жыл бұрын
Yes he is ! Very entertaining! Love it ! Great job !
@marks60722 жыл бұрын
I just got a new 2021 Ridgeline. The safety features don’t work worth a crap. Been in 2 minor accidents in less than 400 miles on the odometer. Traded in my F150 with130,000 miles and not a scratch on it.
@jakes55302 жыл бұрын
can you elaborate? I'm considering a RL, most owners on the forums tend to say HondaSensing is TOO conservative on the RL not what you said.
@gordonnichols80962 жыл бұрын
I dosed off while driving and the system saved me from hitting the car in front of me by braking super hard. It’s a sonar based system that only detects dense objects like metal and concrete. It will prevent you from hitting a pedestal or animal too because a flesh body is dense. It will not emergency break on the freeway if you run over a cardboard box as that would be more dangerous that hitting the item.
@YuriyMotso2 жыл бұрын
Ok. I think I have an idea how to go about fooling the system and making it work.
@zroger732 жыл бұрын
@Gordan Nichols, the CMBS uses a radar and a camera - not sonar. The parking sensors use sonar, but those only work at slow speeds and close distances.
@billyfutch14732 жыл бұрын
We’re you in cruise control? If so my 2021 RTLE will brake hard if unexpected merge or sudden stop from the car ahead.
@lamarwilson86082 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder if it would do anything if a semi & trailer stopped or slowed on the freeway in front of you, and you weren't paying attention. 😬
@leebuck1802 жыл бұрын
When driving off road on a tall grass/weed overgrown field, the system will beep at you and not apply the brakes. on the highway this system saved me from hitting a car that was stopped, moved forward some then stopped again , I got "enforced" it put the brakes on and stopped short of the car ahead of me.
@anthonyrosario2582 жыл бұрын
You have my attention!
@aznguyen3162 жыл бұрын
Something I’ve seen on my ‘21 Passport when using the auto cruise control the silhouette of the car gets filled white when the radar recognizes a car in front to pace. It’s a blank outline when no car is in front or way far ahead. The same with the lane keep assist - the lines are filled or outlined. When you had the auto cruise control on at 25, did the car silhouette for the acc fill white or was it blank? If blank then the crash mitigation might be using the same algorithm for vehicle recognition and not objects or hazards in road. I think I’m okay with this. A wall is not a likely scenario to encounter on the road but usually what stops a vehicle already off course. Someone already fucked up by then. Thanks for the videos! Keep up the great work.
@BrianKilgoreFFT2 жыл бұрын
The system uses radar. Radar reflects off of metal and pass thru cardboard.
@ironyusa38852 жыл бұрын
@Yuriy Motso - Test this theory by wrapping the boxes in foil.
@abbywallace51542 жыл бұрын
That’s my theory too.
@rayray79462 жыл бұрын
But it's supposed to work against pedestrians?
@BrianKilgoreFFT2 жыл бұрын
@@rayray7946 How many people are walking around with no metal with them. You have keys, phones, watches, purses, etc.
@rayray79462 жыл бұрын
@@BrianKilgoreFFT Oh I see. Thought you meant metal objects as in cars, trucks etc.
@jamesw44452 жыл бұрын
The collision mitigation system on my 2017 Pilot prevented a rear-ending accident many moons ago.
@YuriyMotso2 жыл бұрын
I hope to have an additional video coming soon that will have fully working brake system response
@gregorz462 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid Yuri! Why not try to place the boxes into a car shape? Maybe the width threw the system off? Either way, thanks for all your hard work, us Ridgeliners appreciate it!
@07Review2 жыл бұрын
Wow... today heading work a suv cut me off and my Ridgeline slammed the brakes at the point that a knew I was in control, I tried to override the coalition mitigation system from my Ridgeline accelerating but the vehicle didn't follow my action until this guy clears the way.... all that in a fraction of a second, that really impressed me, I was beeping like whennI get inside my garage close to the wall but faster and faster, i didn't heard you system beeping when you got close to the boxes, maybe the distance is not calibrated right, may good idea to check it with the dealer, it supposed to stop. Let us know what happens next. Good video.
@zroger732 жыл бұрын
The parking sensors that beep when you get too close to a wall in garage are based on ultrasonic sound waves - they operate only at low speeds and short distances. The automatic emergency braking system and adaptive cruise control use radio waves that travel much farther along with a camera to see cars and people. The ultrasonic parking sensors are short-distance, low-speed warning devices only - they won't stop the Ridgeline. Honda recently started using the parking sensors for low-speed automatic emergency braking in the Accord, for example, but the Ridgeline doesn't have this feature.
@07Review2 жыл бұрын
@@zroger73 I have the Black edition 2021, , I wasn't talking about the brake sensors, I am talking about the collision mitigation sensors in the front bumper, also I have a bull bar that doesn't interfere with the range or anything else and the only thing I can tell you that when I was about to get a collision with that vehicle I did heard a long beep and the Ridgeline applied the brakes for me and stop at the point I couldn't accelerated until this guy move out of my way, what ever it was that in my case works very good I have the range set to the middle not short or far. That impressed me, the vehicle took the control in order to avoid the collision.
@zroger732 жыл бұрын
@@07Review, the sensors in the front bumper are the ultrasonic parking sensors - they are not used for the Collision Mitigation Braking System. The CMBS (automatic emergency braking system) uses a radar unit mounted behind the "H" symbol on the grill and a camera behind the windshield.
@07Review2 жыл бұрын
@@zroger73 ohhh.... yes you right... thanks to point it, you r correct, now the thing here is why your vehicle didn't sense and avoid the collision?, lets say if you were driving behind a flatbed truck loaded with cardboard, what would have happen? Probably it must be something wrong with your collision module, If never had experienced that before that would be something to think about or maybe is not calibrated right. Excellent video my friend and good luck with that GBU!!!
@zroger732 жыл бұрын
@@07Review, the Ridgeline drove through the boxes because: 1) Cardboard boxes don't reflect radio waves from the radar unit so it can't "see" them, 2) the cardboard boxes don't look like vehicles or pedestrians, so the camera doesn't recognize them as such, 3) the ultrasonic "sonar" parking sensors will detect cardboard boxes, but these sensors are only effective at distances of about 47 inches or less and at speeds of less than 5 MPH. Again, these sensors only detect - they are not connected to any other systems and cannot stop the vehicle. Now, in your example, if you were driving behind a flatbed truck loaded with cardboard boxes, the radar unit would detect the vehicle because the metal that it's made out of would reflect the radar signals - the cardboard boxes are transparent to the radar unit, but the radar would see an empty flatbed truck and apply the brakes.
@sorrowPositive2 жыл бұрын
had mine work a little too well when making a left turn at a busy intersection. was creeping towards the middle when it kicked in. about 3-5ft between my lane and the oncoming cars' lanes too.
@1yehny2 жыл бұрын
Can you check if your RL has a wet rear? Apparently some have found water intrusion below the rear seat carpet. Thanks.
@sherlockholmes69562 жыл бұрын
The system worked on my 2018 crv and we were saved from a horrible horrible rear ending accident a few days ago on a highway. The cars were going fast and I had my foot pressing the gas pedal to speed up and I looked away to the left to see if anyone was on my blindspot so I could change lanes and while my head was turned the cars Infront of me were like dead stopped and before I could even realize that they were stopped the car hit the brakes full on and stopped me before I could even know what happened. I know it was my fault but thank God the collision system worked. however, I have tried to see if it detects my closed garage door and it doesn't. It hits my closed garage door at low speeds of about 3 mph. I never tried full speed towards the closed garage door obviously but at least 3 mph doesn't do anything and hits the door.
@sladeoriginal2 жыл бұрын
mine blinks BRAKE BRAKE BRAKE without cruise control when I'm in a mild right hand curve, on-coming traffic straight ahead about 30 yards away. it never has braked on me though.
@michealdharrell2 жыл бұрын
What if you stacked and painted the boxes to look like a car? Maybe some led lights for brakes?
@mateobeccar26182 жыл бұрын
Noice... or perhaps I got ahead of myself. F for Honda's Cardboard Wall Collision Mitigation System.
@MckinzieMotorsports2 жыл бұрын
Mine is always going off when cars pass by coming in the opposite direction. Annoying. Just turned Sensitivity down
@jamesw44452 жыл бұрын
You need to ask a honda dealer to re-adjust the system.
@TyroneNelson6 ай бұрын
I had a Toyota Highlander XLE I never trusted the safety sense in those things and now I have a Honda Ridgeline and after watching this I damn sure won't trust none of these safety sensors I guess I just have to drive the whole way but I do like on the on the vehicles one thing and that's the lane departure but that stopping before you hit something I'll never trust that
@doggedlydetermined70224 ай бұрын
The system doesn’t work at all if you ask me. My old car would warn me all the time, my Honda never flashes or sounds any warning
@tatyanamotso36192 жыл бұрын
So awesome and entertaining to watch ! Great job !👍🖐🏻
@papo862 Жыл бұрын
The system works just not with certain objects
@johnhill-rudzik14132 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, while driving on cruise control, my vehicle will stop, if there is another car in front, that has slowed down, to do a sudden turn. Not sure about people, don't want to try that experiment. Do a video of a hand drawn person on the boxes, and see what happens. Good luck.
@YuriyMotso2 жыл бұрын
I actually have another project in the works with the test. Running some simulations and if it works I’ll make a new video. I want to see how good it really is.
@LAP10502 жыл бұрын
And here I thought 🤔 you had brought all of the boxes 📦 stacked up in the back of the Ridgeline. I was writing ✍️ to ask how you loaded the boxes then, burst 💥 my box-head, you had them broken down, ugh 😣. 🤪
@chrislj28902 жыл бұрын
What's up with all of those poles in the parking lot?
@YuriyMotso2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what they were placed there for.
@OLDUSAFMedic Жыл бұрын
You could have done this simulation with better results if you had just put tin foil on the boxes making it recognize the metal. I was really interested in these results because my CR-V is constantly trying to kill me.
@jakes55302 жыл бұрын
Any Ridgeline owners out there have any real world experience with the CMBS/automatic braking system? I'm considering a Ridgeline, but all of the comments here say this system wont detect the boxes bc theyre cardboard... Well okay, so what about any real-life experiences in the RL with cars / people / deer etc.
@YuriyMotso2 жыл бұрын
Real life it works. I just have not got to testing to larger more real objects. 🤣 it breaks faster than I can react sometimes.
@sanmanDC0502 жыл бұрын
Don’t ever trust it. Hands on head up.
@sej43232 жыл бұрын
wrap the boxes in aluminum foil.
@jimvanderwood30942 жыл бұрын
Yuriy - do the test with your Subaru Forester. It will pass with flying colors. There are many vids on this. Commenters here are correct that the system in the Ridgeline, pilot and Passport is radar based, not camera based like your Subaru. The Subaru system is highly regarded, - the Honda not so much. I bet you dislike the adaptive cruise in your Ridgeline too, but like it in your Subaru. They’ll all get better eventually. Great vids!
@YuriyMotso2 жыл бұрын
Doubt it. Not with my Subaru Forester. 😂 Would smash through like a rocket. It didn’t have collision mitigation. Lol. I actually will be doing a new video. Have a method I think will work.
@jimvanderwood30942 жыл бұрын
@@YuriyMotso no eyesight on yours? My bad - I thought it was newer. We have a 19 forester and the safety systems are great! Looking forward to your new videos!
@DanyoPJr42o2 жыл бұрын
It's that smart it knows the wall is made of cardboard so no sense to stop just go right threw em🤣
@kevintoepper2828 Жыл бұрын
Paper mannequin maybe?
@arlenesauder1913 Жыл бұрын
Radar does not work through air and cardboard
@concernedpatriot9314 Жыл бұрын
You need to put aluminum foil on the boxes 📦
@miragamarnyk51742 жыл бұрын
The radar - it is more about density of the object , not the shape ...
@zroger732 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's more about the reflectivity of the object to radio waves, not the density. :)
@serg45912 жыл бұрын
Write! But reflectivity will increase with the density;)
@andypacmanperez2 жыл бұрын
Comments : try putting those boxes in the shape of a car 🤡 Ford Flex , Nissan cube, kia soul, scion Xb, box trucks 🚚
@sanmanDC0502 жыл бұрын
The car doesn’t think Boxes aren’t dangerous lol
@TyroneNelson6 ай бұрын
Bottom line people never trust technology
@woodywolf0309 Жыл бұрын
it does not work until you are at least 30 miles an hour!!
@PLATINUM2U2 жыл бұрын
If you had placed aluminum foil on the boxes the radar detection would have bounced back and it would have stopped 🤭
@YuriyMotso2 жыл бұрын
I have that coming up once the rain stops long enough for me to film
@joe24792 жыл бұрын
Paint the rear of a vehicle on the boxes.
@YuriyMotso2 жыл бұрын
I have a better idea. People have been commenting that the sonar looks for dense objects so I think I know of a solution. Test 2 coming up.
@zroger732 жыл бұрын
@@YuriyMotso, sonar is only used for the parking sensors - not for CMBS.
@robertolson2630 Жыл бұрын
Spread the word about this huge lie of Honda's CMBS. My brakes are engaging when no one was near me. No way to turn this unsafe option off. Spread the word that Honda has millions of their 2017 to 2019 cars being recalled for this unsafe "safety" non-option. NO WAY HONDA!
@YuriyMotso Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say it’s a lie. The sensors just are not capable of reading the boxes. It needs more mass.
@VirtualTurkey2 жыл бұрын
So this test proves nothing because the system doesn't pick up cardboard. Might as well delete the video.