Double standards is name of the game.

I get the idea. For me it was that businesses used to have the majority of the power, which will only lead to corruption, and now the government has the ability to create the government. It will take just one corrupt powerful official to make the system fail.

Considering how Beijing is pro authoritarian laws limiting the freedom of speech, removing and jailing any opposition, turns your country into a surveillance state and being run by a single communist government.

Pro Beijing and Pro UK/US are the same thing, it's foreign power controlling Hong Kong, they've the right to vote

@@rakharashya1434 Beijing is foreign to hongkong? nice. I think u should learn some basic facts.

The humiliation did not just start with hk. Taiwan to the japanese, macao to the portugis and many more those are the the price for the weaken power of qing that started way before h.k. Some are rented to foreign power with payment and some are not. Hk is 2nd last or the last depend on how you see it , lease to foreign power. Taiwan is consider part of china though mostly consider it a semi independent state, having itself own system and military to seperate themself from mainland china. Maybe china last mission for unification will be taiwan, nobody can tell for sure.

In which culture ? Never heard about it .

Bro, where is this saying prevalent?

@@krishnamaggarwal9167 in China haha

Fact : This guy is Chinese Pretending to be Indian

Same old civilizations, about same size and number of inhabitants, same history of being invaded by Britain, many millions of death by starvation, vast territory with a lot of big/small tribal groups, Buddhist culture ...etc. Too much similarities

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Lol you are not Indian Who are fooling CCP troll

Swear allegiance to Hong Kong, up holding democracy and human rights. Those appointed by the Mainland China's and so on don't swear an oath to the people of Hong Kong, they don't uphold the principles that built Hong Kong, democracy and human rights are important

Singapore

@@rakharashya1434 Nah, every representatives need to swear the oath.

@@williamwallace644 Naw they don't.

@@williamwallace644 Yeah and also those appointed by the Mainland China, they need to swear their allegiance to Hong Kong

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1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre. Free Tibet. Dalai Lama. Taiwan

It's multiple systems you can't run such large population with just one line

@@charlietube7165 Is it the population or is it CCP control? Plenty of bigger cities have only one tier of government. HK isnt even in the top 20 size wise.

@@wolfvale7863 it's CPC and HK is not a country

One country two systems simpliciter.

No. It’s technically one country, one system. Hong Kong has lost the ability to govern themselves. It’s only “two systems” when CCP talks about it.

And why do these "pro-Beijing" would change these seats? Because they fear they would lose the vote? Why did they remove the districts vote seats? Do you have an answer to that?

@@truthgiovanni6354 they just will become another Singapore that limit another party movement, and Republicans now trying to do that too right make elections harder. Still democracy but with more stability.

@@gamh03 I'm from Singapore so please dont speak if you don't understand, which system we have. We can vote for the PAP trough districts vote(Not like in HK). But the "pro-beijing" parties of Hong Kong elimated these districts votes. So it's not democracy anymore, because the pro-Beijing parties win everytime, no matter what you vote. But in Singapore you can still vote for opposing Parties and the opposition get also get seats. HK is now authoritarianism with no stability (because Hong Kong doesn't want it)

@@truthgiovanni6354 I am also from Singapore and I agree with u

@@truthgiovanni6354 This is not the same problem. Let's say in SG, there is a anti-Singapore camp and a pro-Singapore camp. The pro-Singapore camp always wins and you should not argue that "it is not fair that the anti-Singapore camp does not have a chance" right? Debates on policies, housing, all kinds of issues can and should take place yet weather you are supportIng your country or not should not be debatable.

There is no significant intervention in the affairs of Hong Kong, this is just CCP propaganda

Because China promised and signed a treaty that HK must be in their System for 40 years. But now they are backstabbing and lying

Errrhmm , actually u.s have around 80 congressman with foreign birth(some report confirm this). Their patriotic is questionable but that is just usa problem.

Minimum requirement to run for any federal job is you have to be a US citizen.

@@rickyh695 foreign birth but you need to become their citizen and maybe with other requirements to become a congressman or senator. Core value is they must be patriot and go with the America values right? Now question is does US allow anti-Murica guy to be part of their system or to held a position in White house? I believe that impossible for any other country from this globe.

@@aredtomato8957 being a foreign birth could mean you had early education in foreign country before migrate. Patriot being educated early life in history or any form, that why i said it was questionable but presidential candicate must be u.s born. Not sure how the system evaluate the congressman credential, im sure there is a way.

It’s not their country if the people don’t want to be in it. Look at Quebec 1995 elections, they had an honest genuine election that would decide the state’s fate if the people wanted it to be and independent nation or not. The majority of the Hong Kong people want the same and they aren’t being given that choice.

"HK belongs to China, you want anti-Beijing to govern HK?" I want HK to chose who will govern HK. It is up to HK to chose whether pro-Beijing or anti-Bejing people govern HK. "Does US allow anti-Murica to govern or held position in the white house?" Yes. It does. "Does US allow pro-Beijing to in and out of the white house?" Again, yes. If Americans want to elect a president that is pro-Beijing, they have the freedom to do so. About a third of this country even idiotically believes the current president is a Chinese puppet. "Does any states from US allow pro-Beijing politicians to be their Mayor or Senator or held any political position?" Again, YES. Voters in each state can elect whoever they want to whatever position they want in the US. ANY us citizen who has lived in the US long enough is allowed to run for office in the US, even if they are pro-Beijing. The reason why pro-Beijing candidates don't run is because not many people would vote for them. Giving voters the freedom to elect whoever they want is part of democracy. "No country would allow non-patriot to govern the country. That's is why you teach your kid to respect and love your country in the first place." What makes this so funny is that you have now idea how western democracies work. ALMOST EVERY western democracy allows voters to elect non-patriots to govern their country. This is kind of the whole point of democracy. In Britain, the Scottish national party wants Scottish independence. In Canada the Bloc Québécois party wants Québéc to become independent. Neither party is "patriotic" because they both advocate for independence from their country and yet both parties have seats in each of their countries governments. The Scottish national party even has a near majority in Scotland and governs it with another pro independence party. I can give you countless more examples of countries with local parties that oppose their national government. What you are saying couldn't be further from the truth.

Agree. As millions did when the UK-PRC handover proceeded. As for the others, they believed the "Two Systems" lie.

Yes, places in UK like Rochdale, Huddersfield, Rotherham are great places for HKgers to move to. Establish your community beachhead there. Should open lots of Chinese takeaways cos they love Chinese food. Get in before UK door close.

Ah. How can I move to Hong Kong as US? Who wants to switch places? You will see how "lovely" it is here

I am curious on how china selects it's president and other ministers- defence, forgien etc Can you shed light on this?

@@kashutosh9132 i cannot explain it better. Please take a look at this Wikipedia link: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_China

@@lianwee9023 Ok thanks, I will read it

@@kashutosh9132 in addition to the election mechanism, you may want to look at the credentials of every presidents, their experience before being elected to the role of presidents.

HK had proved for over a century that it deserves to be HK's land. Their people did all the suffering, paid all the dues. But PRC cannot let even one sliver go, because it knows this would encourage every other enslaved group to try and leave. Free Tibet!

@@davidcovington901 "HK" land what is that

Would be so funny if the new system also elects too many of the more freedom-living representatives. Because You would want to change the system again, right? So, why do you pretend to want elections at all?

Yaaayy we will all one day be slaves like chinese.

Yeah, glad you agree, Tibet also don't forget Xinjiang, and Macau

That’s not allowed! The people of Hong Kong do not want Beijing telling them what to do!!!

@James Godfrey yes

@James Godfrey Seriously open a real history book.

@@mijicmugendo It's true tho. Tibet and East-Turkestan were independent until the 18th century.

@@truthgiovanni6354 The USA was a British colony in the 18th century , the world has moved on from British oppression.

If you cant cope with china, perhap that is the only way. Do remember the hk people will be 2nd rate citizen by doing so.

Coz china can't access to youtube, hahaha. Im joking, im sure somehow the ccp have their eye and ears in most social media and news.

@Alexander Ilyas NIEMY [10Q2] That's right. They are independent. SCMP. The name says it. South China... So, there's democracy. Unlike Apple Daily. Even the name is American inspired. Gotta report as scripted by them. They stole press freedom. Trump : they stole the elections.!

@@stevenlee9619 Do you even know what democracy means? It means that the government is affraid of the people. If the people are affraid of the government it is called "dictatorship". The latter one is the case in China and now unfotunately also in HK.

@@Alternatives_Universum Democracy doesn't mean Demons go crazy. *. Fact 1 : A road sweeper was killed by a brick thrown at him by rioters. While at work.! * Fact 2 : A dissenting passerby who was on an overhead foot bridge was surrounded by a group of rioters, doused with a flammable liquid n set alight. Rushed to hospital in life threatening condition. Wonder if he's still around.? Fact 3 : Shops, Malls were looted, vandalised n in some cases set ablaze. So too we're many MRT stations. Set on 🔥 fire, facilities smashed up n tracks sabotaged. * Fact 4 : Legco, the seat of govt~~ and considered sacred anywhere in the world( whatever system U practiced) stormed, ransacked n spray painted with obscenities. This storming took hours,.... all while the PLA troops garrison was just in the heart of downtown HK n restrained from intervening.! * Fact 5 : HK Airport. Among the world's busiest as a major trade n travel hub was totally shut down by occupying protesters. Many innocent would be passengers were verbally abused. Mainland Chinese if discovered were brutally assaulted n in some shown videos, rushed off to hospitals in critical conditions. All these took place over weeks, while a heavily outnumbered police force were only allowed to make the occasional arrest or intervened when the violence escalated. Contrast these with the police response in London, Paris or Washington taking place around the same period. Verbal warnings n minutes given to disperse. Defiance in All these cases were met with charging police, tear gas n mounted police on horses swinging with their long batons. Lock ups followed irregardless of your wounds. * Fact 6 : HK transportation network was crippled. Except for some outlying areas, trains services suspended, buses rerouted but like all land transport, barricaded n roads dug up or strewn with rocks n nails to prevent movement. ... Just a few of many examples. The People ~~as you put it.! These People.?? When anarchy erupts, 😭... it's the govt's responsibility to take decisive action and Dictate terms to restore Law n Order. Thanks for your response. I shall rest my case. 🙏

@@stevenlee9619 I understand your anger. But you have to consider two things. 1. The rioters were a small minority of the protesters. I know that Chinese media tries to coin all protesters as rioters but actually most protesters were peacefull. 2. I also agree that violence against humans of different opinions is a crime. But I want hint at the fact that Hong Kongers were protesting peacefully for DECADES. There was the peacefull umbrella revolution years before and many other peacefull demonstrations occured the years before. Nonetheless, the Chinese government never followed the demands that wear stated in any of those former peacefull protests. So tell me, what should the Hong Kongers have done to make their demands a reality? Because you know, the Chinese Government does not care about the demands of peaceful protesters. The blockade of infrastructe in Hong Kong was the only means that made the Chinese Government listen to the demands of the protesters. Anything else would not work. (Of course we agree, that violence against humans is not ok at all.)

And why these people of Hong Kong don't want to unifacation of the political system? Why did in 2019 the "pro-Beijing" people lost the vote? It's not foreign influence, it's suppressing.

I think those protests from back in 2019 should tell you enough about how Hong Kongers actually feel about Beijing. At least half of the entire population left their homes and into the streets, because they didn't want Beijing to take them over. What Beijing did is change things up a bit to make sure that the pro-beijing camp always wins. Democratic elections, with Chinese characteristics as they would say.

@@CapitalTeeth yeah learn from Singapore system Democracy with stability that one party above all

@James Godfrey The UK will be disbanding first

@@truthgiovanni6354 HK lived under British oppression for 150 years

So if the US does that, China would free Tibet, Xinjiang, Hong Kong and Macau? Taiwan is already free so China doesn't need to free them

@@rakharashya1434 Also add Manchuria and Inner Mongolia to the list

@@serbanandreimarin5988 Add everything, but nothing is going to happen. Atleast better than fake human rights created by west. In China you can drink bear or alcohol in public, but in US you can't do that.

@@serbanandreimarin5988 If you're from US, US have only 13 states when they got independence. That are in the east coastal areas of US. Other areas which US caught by conquest. British Dutch French Portuguese Spanish Belgium Italy Germany have colonies at the time when there're no technologies. So most of their atrocities are being buried in history. Now, you fake human rights and violence making countries claiming free the areas of other country makes ironic.

@@spider6660 Just to set the record straight, I am neither from the US nor Western Europe Also, in recent history, the Western World has not only stopped it's human rights violations, but repented pretty profusely about the violations commited in the past

Go to hospital then

@@xyz-pg3zd wit level - 100. CCP comedy central, you better have improved one liners or you'll be going to a nice little holiday camp.

@@PureBadBreath cringe. You call that a come back? You'll be in camp no time, no fee think hahahah

@@xyz-pg3zd comeback what are you 5? Utter low income CCP sweatshop troll. Remind yourself this, you live in a prison where one little word of Winnie the Pooh Pooh makes you dead. Lol

@@PureBadBreath I'm not in China idiot. Keep staying small minded Prisoned Think

They dont want to be free

@@lovelyhomeboy2782 Because all those atrocities happened before the invention of technologies and that generation already gone.

@@spider6660 exactly

This is awesome!

Hong Kong is one of the largest exporter in the world only because of China.

China is doing better than hk. It the other way around since china develop. Many hk industrial had switch to mainland china. Too bad hk need their help but not their govern, dont know if there any better solution. 1 country 2 system does not seem to work anymore, china is blocking western influence to hk. Hk does not have much land to develop anymore even their trade seaport are not busy as it used to be.

I hate that everyone is boosting pro Beijing or pro democracy bs I just want Hong Kong to have sovereignty .

What?