They literally HAVE TO now! They have no choice in the matter 💎 🐍

@@Kento617 actually, they do have the choice to do that or not

i feel like onix is in most regions so itll prolly be there

@@bidoof367 that’s what I’m hoping for. With that Crystal Onix being in the first season, it would just be great for it all to come full circle.

@@Kento617 it was the 2nd season, the orange islands was season 2

The Pokedex also claims Tentacruel has 80 tentacles

@@bri1085 anime has shown really big ones? Maybe?

I think it's possible that Arceus have a form for every gimmick and maybe some other forms it has that aren't tied to any gimmick.

I think it’s better that we didn’t see it. Arceus is literally God so it makes sense that we wouldn’t be able to comprehend it’s true form. Although i agree the origin forms are trash haha

I wrote this before that segment of the video played and then realized hoops basically said this word for word hahaha

Surprised we never got it for legends arceus

What if the form of gastrodon was really hisui Goodra but was thought to be gastrodon

Or as a paradox form

I'm so mad, my ex stepmother threw away my collection years ago. I had dark, light, and other versions of jolteon as well as a ton of other cards, some worth quite a bit today.

@@Cowboy-ms4hx you could call her anything other than step mother then.

@@DeadIris eh it's shorter than typing "the bitch that my dad chose over mom just because she was younger and naive that broke apart my family, caused alot of trauma and in the end cheated on my dad multiple times so even my dad hated her in the end" so ex stepmother is whatever.

I got a fire type milotic once and I thought it was a mistake!

That and EX seems to have inspired the frenzied Pokemon in Legends arceus

Me waiting for a delta species main series game in the holon region

You know what’s really funny about you pointing that out Cynadquils line in the delta cards were the ghost/poison/psychic type when those were released. And PLA has Typhlsion become half ghost type

@@digidrveKJ Ghost or Psychic type. That umbrella didn't encompass the Poison type until Gen 4, during Gen 3 it was the Grass type that was the big umbrella that housed bug, poison, and grass. Which is funny because Paldean Wooper and Quagsire are poison typed.

Scyther’s alternate color was red in pokemon stadium and i really wish we got that instead of the shiny we have today, a real missed opportunity

@@greasygurl9386 that’s funny because Scyther canonically (anime) hates the color red and it makes it angry.

This was one of my favorite details Stadium did. I wish they would add it to new games as well.

@@greasygurl9386 Scyther goes rabid over the colour red tho, so it tries to kill Scizor unless they're shiny.

I get you but the judeo Christian god was not ever described as anything like the beta are us sprite. His appearance is never described at all I bribe but man was said to be made in gods image implying god looks like a human and would therefore be bipedal.

Real missed opportunity for an origin form

I've always interpreted the "Countless Arms" as "Countless Avatars" aka what you catch and meet any time you "meet Arceus". Also in Legends Arceus files, there was a cry (and maybe sprite? I forget) for a Mega Arceus that went unused.

I swear us pogo players don’t get enough attention in the Pokémon multiverse

They had "purified" Pokémon in XD Gale of Darkness as well

Except arbok only has one form and zero regional forms

@@JustinAdamson270 Arbok can be done like Vivillon. Nothing but the pattern on his hood is what changes.

@@allhailme8457 oh you want it to be a thing lol I read it as it already was I actually would love that

It’s a percent chance on a (slightly easier) shiny chance! It’s crazy that square shinies were introduced so nonchalantly

This is exactly what I was thinking

Also go really stole the mechanic from the old N64 and GCN games

@@swipeslogjack_tgaming9472 "stole" lol. Everything Pokemon in the main series games, trading cards, etc. all comes from other pokemon titles, so it's not stealing when you're pulling directly from source material that was made by the Pokemon Company (partnered with Niantic to make Pokemon Go)

Purified pokemon also have more health

Was that the one with the orange archipelago and that island with pink Pokémon or the giant pokemon one?

@@wnrr2696 You're thinking of the Orange Islands in the anime! This set didn't come with any alternative forms, but the cards had connected artwork

I was wondering if Delta pokemon would have come up as well. I was always fond of delta species as a concept and thought it was really cool.

@@UnclearMotives I am unfamiliar with these

@@wnrr2696 I don't really know much about the specifics myself other than the basic premise. Was never a huge follwer in the tcg space. Though after some thought I wonder if itwas a source of inspiration for regional forms as it shares the whole "This species has a different type in this region." concept.

I'm pretty sure the original forms of Hisuian Zorua and Zoroark are just Unovan Zorua and Zoroark. We know that people inhabit Unova by the time period Legends Arceus takes place in, since Professor Laventon brought an Oshawatt to Hisui, and Unovan Zorua and Zoroark already have mystical powers of illusion. They seem to be in that category of Dark types that are in the type more because people mistrust them than anything they do, like Absol. It's possible that there was another form, but I don't know what piece of lore makes you think it existed or was a fairy type.

@@kimberlyramin the timeline argues that Dark type Zorua and Zoroark came about later, not previously. And certainly not concurrently. If we then allow the Pokédex entries to speak for themselves: Hisuian Zoroark and Zorua came about because of humans abusing it. It died and came back as this form. The abused partly dead form is normal/ghost. It only stands to reason that as time continues it would shift from half ghost to full Dark with continued fear and abuse from humans. Therefore it would also stand to reason that whatever form it was before it was abused and died to become Normal/Ghost, it wasn’t those before. You don’t corrupt a Dark type and make it less Dark. Dark would be the darkest it gets. It makes zero sense to imagine a Dark type Zorua was abused, died, and became less Dark. It only makes sense going the other direction.

@@cairneoleander8130 There isn't really a timeline to argue over, since we don't know the state of affairs in the Unova region during the Hisui period. We know the Sinnoh region's timeline in a very broad, vague sense, but we don't know the wider world's status, including the full list of existing pokemon and forms. As for the typing, Zoroark's line is Dark type because humans mistrust it, in the same way that Absol is Dark type because humans think it causes disasters. Zoroark actually has similar, if more powerful abilities than Stantler, creating illusions and causing confusion. If humans didn't hate Zoroark, it easily could've been Normal or Psychic type. But they do, so humans abused and probably killed a number of the pokemon, resulting in the angriest and most stubborn of them becoming vengeful undead. Ghost type isn't a corruption, it's just the state of lingering after death. Now that Zoroark is undead, it's a ghost type. It's more the normal type that would mean the original wasn't Dark type, which i can believe. I just don't think it would've been Fairy. I think the original Hisuian Zorua and Zoroark were normal types, maybe normal ice. It's possible this was the original species, and events played out differently for it in Unova and Hisui, resulting in the spilt. In Hisui, the pokemon was unable to avoid the exploring members of Galactic, so it created a scary illusion to chase them away. The people then became too scared of the pokemon, their emotions went full circle into hatred, and a decision was made to hunt them so they couldn't hurt them anymore. This resulted in the terrible events that created the Hisuian form we know today. Meanwhile in Unova, the Zoroark may have been better at hiding, or better at creating their illusions, and were able to exist on the periphery of human awareness for a very long time, like those shadows you spot out the corner of your eye, but then you look and it's gone. People became paranoid about the dark forests that zoroark lived in, especially since they could never find their way in certain areas. These emotions were felt and absorbed by the Zoroark of Unova for a long time, and gradually turned them into the Dark type we know now, since again, Dark type isn't exclusively evil, it's also the type of pokemon that are simply mistrusted because of their nature or abilities.

@@cairneoleander8130 also, I'm sorry my responses are always so long, I just gotta get all my thoughts out at once or I forget them.

Except gastrodon isn't gen 3 at all

@@JustinAdamson270 beta content, check bulbapedia

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@@chimuoma390 this is a Pokémon video tho so digimon doesn’t matter here

No.

I was interested in it so I searched up other Arceus True Forms....... Turns out its a mega, still cool tho

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Wasn't there a crystal onyx in the anime?

@@jaye4157 Yes there was. It was season 2 episode 7.

I was thinking that maybe they’d forgotten Gastrodon and slapped that bit of lore into Hisuian Goodra as I watched this 😂

He said they're not in the main series

Or A 10% Zygarde

I have had the same thoughts, they might implement it when they run out of ideas or try to recapture player base. They kinda introduced it with square shinies.

In the games the Fairy type effectively acts as a Light type

Dark is a counterpart to fighting. Dark is based on underhanded or dirty fighting tactics, and is actually “evil” in Japanese. So its match is the heroic fighting type

Because crystal onix is pretty famous at this point

@@lesouth0348 nobody ever mentions crystal Onix in any videos like this ever

That wouldn't make sense. The forms are like that because Mt. Coronet divides Sinnoh into an eastern and western half. There's no geographical formation dividing it into north/south. Of course they could always make a region with such a feature, but I doubt they'd do that just to get more Gastrodon forms

@@asterlyons8564 Who said it has to be in Sinnoh

Is that when it flies like a rocket?