Hopi fail to block auction of sacred masks in Paris

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11 жыл бұрын

www.euronews.com/ The sale has gone ahead in Paris of a collection of Hopi masks that the native American tribe considered sacred, and had demanded be returned.
A court ruling cleared the sale after the Hopi attempted to sue the auction house.
"The court decided to let the sale proceed because those masks, as sacred as they may be for the Hopis, are not bodies, human bodies, alive or dead, body parts, and the court found that's the only thing that could have been protected, with which I disagree," said the lawyer representing the Hopi, Pierre Servan-Schreiber.
The Hopi had support from the US ambassador to France and show business personalities like Robert Redford. The tribe itself made no bids on the masks.
"Those objects have been sacred since about 20 years ago. Before that the Hopi used to sell those masks. We already saw that in New York as part of the collection of Andy Warhol. And at that time the auction didn't lead to such a fuss," said auctioneer Gilles Neret-Minet.
The collection, comprising dozens of masks, was assembled by an amateur who lived in America for some 30 years before putting it up for sale.
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@lozer867
@lozer867 11 жыл бұрын
The fact that this video showing them is up on KZfaq disgusts me. This definitely needs to be removed like now. And please just respect everyone commenting, our Hopi tribe, and me by removing this video. this is not something to be shown publicly. It brings me to tears just knowing our friends are not at home where they should be. Can't you pahanas just leave us alone!!!
@txbadclips755
@txbadclips755 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like us hopis might get whipped for this for not protecting the madkst
@AdrianoMendoza203
@AdrianoMendoza203 Жыл бұрын
Uhuh
@user-zb3fe7rk9e
@user-zb3fe7rk9e 9 ай бұрын
But we still put our dances on this stuff lol
@henrylivingstone2971
@henrylivingstone2971 6 ай бұрын
What’s the big deal, it’s a mask
@dannyqa6694
@dannyqa6694 3 ай бұрын
​@henrylivingstone2971 it's not just a mask bro
@QuickDrawDuel
@QuickDrawDuel 3 жыл бұрын
Who ever owns those needs to return them. They aren't just "masks". And as for youtube, depicting them on screen is offensive to my culture.
@travistorivio6527
@travistorivio6527 7 жыл бұрын
this is sad this is very sacred to hopi and other tribes
@hoyesnimtalas734
@hoyesnimtalas734 5 жыл бұрын
Mann our poor katsinas just wanna come home..
@bloodthirsty75
@bloodthirsty75 5 жыл бұрын
Owii
@redbirdproductions7657
@redbirdproductions7657 5 жыл бұрын
Take this down. This should not be on here!!!!!!
@legitmoney8957
@legitmoney8957 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of bad karma will happen to these people who stole and took the sacred items
@HopiTewaPride
@HopiTewaPride 11 жыл бұрын
We are strong Hopi people who WILL persevere all that has been done to us by these Pahanam. Now we must carefully watch ourselves even amongst our own people. Consequences for those involved as they are playing with their lives. Maybe they'll realize that these are who and what we say they are... Our lost children, my wuhyahs I pray you find your way back home as we will all be waiting with open arms. Continue to pray for their safe return!
@lehongnewap875
@lehongnewap875 4 жыл бұрын
HopiTewaPride Nahongvita be strong
@toryyaasilva3195
@toryyaasilva3195 7 жыл бұрын
And then Paris Burned!!! They want to come home they know where they belong..
@m_lacross6954
@m_lacross6954 8 жыл бұрын
can someone please take this down because we don't want our children bumping into this and seeing this stuff that they are not supposed to see
@lehongnewap875
@lehongnewap875 4 жыл бұрын
Aaliyah owii
@gsockyma2452
@gsockyma2452 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i wish we could😠
@elementaltrance30
@elementaltrance30 Жыл бұрын
Makes me so sad that some of our SACRED Native American masks are in a museum. ...I hate to be the new "owner " of such a sacred object. Prepare for very ill fortune.
@_Milcah_
@_Milcah_ 5 жыл бұрын
Paris church went into flames. Hmm I wonder if it was a coincidence (I personally don’t believe in coincidences). Hopi tribal ancestors predicted a lot of bad things to come from the west because of their greed. Return their property along with Afrikans stolen property. Please listen to their voices in this comment section and delete this video! Their children doesn’t need to learn about the things mention in this video.
@txbadclips755
@txbadclips755 4 жыл бұрын
We also believe that the world is going to fit around because of global warming and the knew that since the tribe was built that said that we will be planting in the snow
@henrylivingstone2971
@henrylivingstone2971 4 күн бұрын
No…..it was coincidence. Most things are coincidence people just tend to draw patterns and connections to justify and better process events. It’s just an old dusty mask
@teshayowytewa5172
@teshayowytewa5172 10 жыл бұрын
this is sad to see this on you tube where anyone could see this... our young child are now exposed to this. How can some people be so disrespectful to another tribe. haven't you all done enough damage as is... But we as hopi people need to stand together and stand up for our beliefs... In all regards and out of respect please remove this along with anyother things that are scared to our hopi culture... You have already done enough damage and created alot of disrespect... This is the reason why most villages don't allow outsiders in their villages... To those who have sold these things are now turning to churches and really putting down our culture.. By all means if your putting down hopi traditions then your puting yourself down as well. You were born a hopi and did things in hopi you well go out as a hopi.. There is nothing you can do about where you come from... Just remember that your only hurting your loved ones... Some of you outsiders wonder why there are bad things happening to you and your family... Think about what you have done to disrespect other tribes... By all means the ones that sold scared things to the outsiders well b punished and I do see alot of that going on...
@leonardtootsie2664
@leonardtootsie2664 11 жыл бұрын
This needs to be removed immediately. Its not ok, ever to show these sacred objects on video or photograph. Please honor this request.
@klaileabennett2200
@klaileabennett2200 4 жыл бұрын
I'm reporting this because this is supposed to be sacred to Hopi tribes and I'm one of those tribes
@hopi-tewalomatala3173
@hopi-tewalomatala3173 11 жыл бұрын
ohii no.. pu itam pas pumuy ow yu'a'ata... in all respects please take this video down.. we have our ways and we like to keep them in tact. please and thank you
@victormanniejr3816
@victormanniejr3816 11 жыл бұрын
Makes me VERY SAD to see our Friends far away from Home!
@KamaraSune
@KamaraSune 11 жыл бұрын
America just returned a shipwreck filled with gold to Spain, in fact many countries around the globe have managed to do the right thing with artifacts while France thinks the Hopi nation is just a lesser people to be continually exploited. Why is this? There will be no burying the truth of this, and I intend to go out of my way to make sure every Cherokee knows how little France thinks of us while the U.S. props up French banks. The Cherokee will stand with the Hopi.
@AdrianoMendoza203
@AdrianoMendoza203 Жыл бұрын
We should make an army and try to fight
@henrylivingstone2971
@henrylivingstone2971 6 ай бұрын
@@AdrianoMendoza203 You would never win.
@AdrianoMendoza203
@AdrianoMendoza203 6 ай бұрын
@@henrylivingstone2971 yea true but we need to exploit this mr
@henrylivingstone2971
@henrylivingstone2971 4 күн бұрын
The US returned the shipwreck because the galleon was still technically Spanish property despite being 400 years old
@kayanamingha1791
@kayanamingha1791 11 жыл бұрын
damn.!! just give us our stuff back.!!! thats not fare for stealing our traditional beliefs.!!
@chloewright6369
@chloewright6369 Жыл бұрын
If the items in question were from extinct tribes then by all means, make a commodity of them. However, these items came from a living tribe that fights for existence and respect today. Treating their sacred items like a commodity is racism at an 18th century mindset and is abhorrent.
@jkaka-jq7hx
@jkaka-jq7hx 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my GOD why does Paris even have This! They should just MIND there own state and leave the Hopi alone cause children are not supposed to see this!!
@lehongnewap875
@lehongnewap875 4 жыл бұрын
jkaka118 711 especially the ones that are not wipgya
@RoyRoy-xe4bb
@RoyRoy-xe4bb 4 жыл бұрын
man are friend are far away from our home and all of us are thinking about them and it is sad during this coronavirus time so pray to dawa and stay safe who ever reading this comment that are hopi or different people
@andytso7990
@andytso7990 3 жыл бұрын
This the reason why the church of Notre dame burned down in Paris
@gsockyma2452
@gsockyma2452 4 жыл бұрын
to who ever put this video up please take it down its hurting us hopi seeing them like that not even taking care of them. U dont know what your selling it hase a soul its alive this is considered slavery why would you wana put someone up for decoration hes better than that no one needs to be treated like that so please have a littel respect for us for them for our culture. And take it down.
@gsockyma2452
@gsockyma2452 4 жыл бұрын
I may be only 14 but i know what im saying
@henrylivingstone2971
@henrylivingstone2971 6 ай бұрын
@@gsockyma2452 Well….no, it’s not slavery. There has to be a physical person for it to be slavery. I get the rhetoric but there’s nothing that violates the law.
@Hey_its_Koda
@Hey_its_Koda 4 жыл бұрын
Playing with bad medicine.
@victormanniejr3816
@victormanniejr3816 11 жыл бұрын
Just watching this video,brings tears to my eye's!I am Hopi,I know how sacred and power our friends hold! My friends sit there on there display sad,some looks as if they have tears!We need to bring them all home were our friennds belong!
@hoyesnimtalas734
@hoyesnimtalas734 5 жыл бұрын
victor mannie jr i started crying too, man this is not okay at all. we need to have them come home because that’s where they belong.. i swear they looked so sad too..
@txbadclips755
@txbadclips755 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they don't use it because it might jest get stuck on them because they don't know how to use it
@Burnt_Enchilada
@Burnt_Enchilada Жыл бұрын
I'm not hopi but I am native American and it is still sad to see them like this
@AdrianoMendoza203
@AdrianoMendoza203 Жыл бұрын
Wow I wasn’t initiated yet😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@z.b.kingfisher3340
@z.b.kingfisher3340 2 жыл бұрын
Guess the Hopi tribe should have hired a better lawyer or at least a lawyer that could even say "Hopi" right! Can't even say their clients name correctly... let alone understand a Hopi concept
@kalailanamoki9572
@kalailanamoki9572 7 жыл бұрын
Iss Itseh Pay Piw Pahana . Dang If My Ta'ha Annd Them See This They Would Be Soo Diappointed Right Now Seeing This Makes Me Soo Mad , Seeing Thaat Pahanas Are Making Money Out Of This Annd Messing Around With It .. It's Not A Joke Kids Thaat Aren't Initiated Can See This Annd Thaat Whaats We Don't Want Yoour Exposing Them Pay Pi'i Let The Katsina Deal With Them Let Them Get Sick Let Them Do Something Too Them It's Their Fault .. Buut All I Know Is Thaat Their Watching Them ..😧Pumuy Pahanam Qa Kyaptsi Nikyang ..
@soulfulkat
@soulfulkat 4 жыл бұрын
This is HORRIBLE
@FoxGamer-ql6xs
@FoxGamer-ql6xs Жыл бұрын
You can't show this on KZfaq
@smokedog4281
@smokedog4281 Жыл бұрын
This disgust me cause they post to not take this and show them to the people
@journeywithnichole
@journeywithnichole 6 ай бұрын
How were the masks acquired?
@henrylivingstone2971
@henrylivingstone2971 6 ай бұрын
Taken by Christian missionaries in the late 19th century
@journeywithnichole
@journeywithnichole 6 ай бұрын
@@henrylivingstone2971 That's what I thought...
@henrylivingstone2971
@henrylivingstone2971 6 ай бұрын
@@journeywithnichole Yeah… It’s not a great look, but still legal by most international standards
@tattoodboop
@tattoodboop 10 жыл бұрын
That's a shame. Like stealing.
@darylsakeva4442
@darylsakeva4442 9 жыл бұрын
Please delete this or the photos of the objects, we r trying not to have our children see these things, please and thank you
@danielcandelaria7369
@danielcandelaria7369 Жыл бұрын
Plz stop showing these this is very sacred and not to be messed with we all need to delete this video right now
@josephjam30
@josephjam30 10 жыл бұрын
What the hell is he talking about we never tried selling our quatsiat to people this needs to be taken down
@Mr.penguin405
@Mr.penguin405 2 ай бұрын
Where the hell are u guys getting these
@animekid9611
@animekid9611 Жыл бұрын
Stop posting this cause im hopi and they don't like them seeing there kachinas friends they well get upset with you so pls don't do it
@razorfenix1082
@razorfenix1082 10 жыл бұрын
an amateur? those eagle feathers and other markings look authentic to me. my understanding is one can not acquire or possess golden eagle feathers or other migratory bird feathers with out permit.
@chungus5826
@chungus5826 5 жыл бұрын
You can, native Americans can possess eagle feathers through the U.S wildlife fish and game service look it up
@BiggScoobz
@BiggScoobz 11 жыл бұрын
So pissed off right now
@hoya1231
@hoya1231 11 жыл бұрын
This is so sad! How could our own people do this? but then again these bahanas should have respect for us. Now because of this my lil brother who isn't initiated knows about the katsinas... So sad & we don't even know what to tell him, he cried when he found out. =( (SIGH) I really hope our own people in Hopi get more strict with the outsiders now!
@m_lacross6954
@m_lacross6954 7 жыл бұрын
Honanwyma Montoya iss oquywa
@deonteonsae6171
@deonteonsae6171 11 ай бұрын
THIS IS VERY SAD PLEASE TAKE THIS DOWN
@user-hy8zy3zq8c
@user-hy8zy3zq8c Жыл бұрын
Take this down.
@CRAZY4BEINGCRAZY
@CRAZY4BEINGCRAZY 6 жыл бұрын
Paris is seeing it's karma for doing this and will only worsen now to the point it will be in flames probably in the future.
@Swishasweet2811
@Swishasweet2811 Жыл бұрын
it feels like to me that these mask have spirits in them.
@tateyoiwyma7501
@tateyoiwyma7501 3 ай бұрын
Your very correct.
@Sara-gl8ue
@Sara-gl8ue 11 ай бұрын
This is heartbreaking.
@jw-re6jz
@jw-re6jz 2 жыл бұрын
Why do hopi and navajo tribe's sale Kachina dolls and sacred songs at flea markets and online 🤷‍♂️
@rccha4153
@rccha4153 7 жыл бұрын
😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@TreyvenDelowe
@TreyvenDelowe Ай бұрын
The world is going crazy i feel like our katsinas are gonna go away because of their privacy
@nanabahgorman1305
@nanabahgorman1305 5 жыл бұрын
Our friends got taken with the Hopi refugees. They better get home, right away! It sounds like freedom has finally arrived! Or is it only Christmas? We Love you Jesus!
@gsockyma2452
@gsockyma2452 4 жыл бұрын
Do u even know what the word hopi means we all live up to the word
@AdrianoMendoza203
@AdrianoMendoza203 Жыл бұрын
It means peace
@cherylmccabe9303
@cherylmccabe9303 7 ай бұрын
Criminals, no resoect for others way of life, , no they were stolen by fools that dont honor thier own of life
@webonesbienhechos
@webonesbienhechos 11 жыл бұрын
Bbuuuuuuuuuuuu
@ajmooya1362
@ajmooya1362 Жыл бұрын
Who ever was involved gots it coming to them
@tamarasewahopigirlhopinava9218
@tamarasewahopigirlhopinava9218 3 жыл бұрын
You can't sell the kachina they need to come back to us why do you need to sell them why 😭😭😭
@sizzla123
@sizzla123 11 жыл бұрын
lame
@JosiahAries-rc3lf
@JosiahAries-rc3lf 2 ай бұрын
No keptsi!!! *respect*
@wilmakaye5553
@wilmakaye5553 9 жыл бұрын
Let's take there stuff souyokos will eat the you tubers that post this kind of stuff old Paris man there're spirits they will come and take there stuff back
@kayakingbakugo3102
@kayakingbakugo3102 3 жыл бұрын
Iss okiiwa they just want to come home
@eddierayporter1716
@eddierayporter1716 7 жыл бұрын
EXUSES
@DSVPiLLZ
@DSVPiLLZ 4 жыл бұрын
They don’t know nothing about us and our friends
@billywitchd0ctor
@billywitchd0ctor 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of greed and slight of hand here. A shame. I feel like they are hiding something from the public to make it seem like these were acquired honestly. I am sorry to all Hopis who see this video. It isn't JUST anthropological INFORMATION. Respect this culture please.
@Kronaphasia
@Kronaphasia 10 жыл бұрын
Its one thing if the masks were stolen but quite different if they were given or sold to the collector who put them up for auction. How did the collector get them? If they were stolen they should be given back & the collector jailed However if they were given in kindness or sold to the collector then there is no expection of Hopi rights to them sacred or not. Take some fucking responsiblity with your prized posessions & don't sell, trade or give them away if they mean so much to you.
@blubbie9646
@blubbie9646 Жыл бұрын
Don't blame us for this, you have no idea how important these things are to us, none of us would do this since our katsinas run around our whole society, it's very likely these were stolen, they look old
@siital51
@siital51 Жыл бұрын
they were STOLEN, we would NEVER give ANY of our cultural/sacred stuff away.
@bluechaos_speed4245
@bluechaos_speed4245 4 ай бұрын
Owi it’s not our fault it’s just that pahanas people just don’t have respect these days they just wanna take take take and think we won’t find out but one day these people will face consequences and that people don’t know how important these kwatsis are I hope the katsinam come back home this is why our dances tikevas aren’t happening often is because of people who steal our stuff
@rxqueen_
@rxqueen_ 11 жыл бұрын
ya'll gon suffer for this
@gsockyma2452
@gsockyma2452 4 жыл бұрын
U dont know what this mean to us us hopis should think bro this so disrespectful to us hopi 😠
@giovannibenally6548
@giovannibenally6548 5 жыл бұрын
Messed up
@AdrianoMendoza203
@AdrianoMendoza203 Жыл бұрын
Pahansd
@tuarikee537
@tuarikee537 Жыл бұрын
It’s not considered it is
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