AgentBlack I absolutely agree. He was so honor-bound as to prepare a detailed account of his 'crimes' and insert an apology to future humans. He deceived and sent innocents to their deaths by the hundreds of millions, even billions, and was ethical enough to lay penitent before the judgment of the future humans. Now that's a fucking legend.

If only modern politicians could be so honorable (please don't let this become a tirade over named individuals).

@Dj Nichols What the hell are you talking about? im asian and that doesnt make sense at all

Why the fuck you commenting here? We are all saying he was the greatest hero, taking the fall and playing the villain to save humanity. If you want to whine take your shit elsewhere.

​@Dj Nichols Sure buddy... sure... the overwhelming majority of protagonists and heroes of 2018 movies and games where all white and straight, but because we had a few non white/gay protagonists, suddenly it's reverse racism... You guys need to realise how crazy you sound to the rest of the world...

I think Jason Rubin had a hunch that video games had the potential to be better than movies back in the 90s; Jason is the guy who co-founded Naughty Dog, a company that has a long history of making games that are story driven and feel like they could make for good movies.

It was inevitable that this would happen, a video game can be more effective than a book can be at illustrating a story. Which is why 99% of movie adaptations of video games are complete trash.

Funnily, I think that games are only getting started. Also, remember: the video game industry is even bigger than the movie industry now. Sure, Boomers (I usually hate using that term, lmao) and ignorant people are still looking down on games, but for future generations, they will be the preferred form of entertainment. People say that we are in the golden age of video games. IMO, it has barely even started, even if the gaming industry is 4 decades old by now. There is still so much potential (especially when it comes to technology) left.

Video games have a unique opportunity to get more in depth with a story and get you more invested in the characters than films or even books. You can spend a hundred hours in a game like HZD exploring the world through Aloy's eyes, coming to care about her struggles, and discovering things with her. That level of interactivity is unique to video games as a storytelling media. It's an opportunity that games like HZD or The Last of Us or Red Dead Redemption grab brilliantly. It's also why George R.R. Martin was massively wrong when he said games weren't an art form and wouldn't be until VR had gotten to the point of being life-like.

1996 we had Final Fantasy 7 1998 metal gear solid things progressed really fast

welcome to science. where faith is actually applied to reality, unlike in religion.

@@amonymus8712 then we should respect flat earthers and antivaxx too, to not spread negativity? Coz both strongly believe in some made up unscientific unlogicall bullshit like religion is

I totally agree.

They should’ve invested in mass-medical-euthanasia to offer it to *everyone* who wants it, instead of sacrificing countless people to agonizing deaths by robotic killing-machines just to buy time for a bio-time capsule so life can go on. Who cares if the world comes back? Make sure everyone can die painlessly and calmly as long as there is time. Maybe im just too nihilistic but Zero-Dawn (as project) is just selfishness disguised as altruism. Let the world come to the inevitable end and make sure everyone is comfortable while it happens.

@@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer How stupid Ted Faro is?! A psycho who was causing the destruction to the world! Goddamn him for this (In the game of course)

It lacked a lot of things like more customization option and meaningful choices. But Horizon Zero Dawn was a great game no doubt. Expect a lot of good things from the sequel.

Meh, it was ok.

What people? F**k people. People are often stupid & ignorant. Great story, characters ...

Aloy was so ugly, though. I mean, come on development team! I think they were too scared of displeasing the Anita Sarcheeezyin, rabit-feminist, fuck-the-patriarchy-and-fuck-beauty-standards crowd. Lol.

Yes, it DID have an obvious pro-feminist/leftist narrative focus. And, yes, Aloy was intentionally made less attractive than the model she was animated from. You can easily look that up. And it isnt just me that noticed, my friend. Type in " Aloy is weird looking" into google search and have fun.

You will be Brave, and you will learn.

Would i still didn’t understand is Why Blue machines attack us when they see us.

@@anuragchawla6473 that is the result of one Gaia’s rogue subfunctions, specifically Hephaestus which was in charge of creating the machines that would terraform the earth. You see Hephaestus was angered by humans hunting its machines for parts and sought to protect them at any cost and as such it reprogrammed the machines so that they would become aggressive and attack humans, something that would come to be known as the derangement. On top of this Hephaestus also began to alter the machines to have defensive capabilities with which to attack humans.

Not really. Creators of this game just went "dude, I have and idea. Robot dinosaurs!". Only single line of dialogue in game explains those and it does it very poorly just saying they were needed for teraforming. I doubt terraforming is done with robots pretending to be deer or birds. You know birds can fly cause they are light and not made of metal? Its just stupid on so many levels. But hey, ROBOT DINOSAURS!

@@naox100 You’ve clearly never heard of creative liberty or science fiction.

cauldrons can always make more. besides, the machines can't really help themselves after going through the derangement

Yasha well during the events of Horizon Zero Dawn GAIA wasn't in control of the machines anymore because she was destroyed. After that HEPHEASTUS was creating them so technically you're killing his machines not GAIA's lol

The cauldrons are in an infinite loop of construction, plus who can't ignore the stuff they drop?

@@tachy1801 And Ted Faro, idiot he maybe, wiped all that historical information and education from the servers, effectively killing Apollo. When I first heard that... I was really close to putting a nice big hole in my TV.

@@lumberluc I can understand his motivation but I was still very pissed at the fact he stopped the future generations from learning simple stuff and that the machines are their friends.

True, and the music is insanely good

I was just thinking about this today and how elementary school art class the base concept is and how you needed an incredibly strong story to package it up

@@ismaellopezco Given the other things shown in the game that you never consciously notice until it's pointed out this is no plothole or ludicrous premise. The arrows are capable of embedding themselves deep into stone. This means that the arrowheads are solid enough to apply enough force to the STONE that the stone has to give up and comply with the force asserted on it.

Noble Wolf lmao it's so predictable mate.

Why in the flying fuck are you watching cutscenes on youtube for a game you havent finished if you dont want spoilers? Internet 101.

It really was, its the only game that makes me want a prequel movie

spoilers

I've played through this game 14 times. And I tear up every single time at one very specific moment. The Sobeck Memorial when Margo says "Oh no" and the theme starts. I'm tearing up just typing this. Another moment that chokes me up is the first video above, where Herres is explaining just how fucked they are, the video titled "The Bad News"

Braniac-0 LMFAO.....and surprisingly in the distant future sci fi and reality will come together to do just that.

I feel I must remind you that it is an undeniable, and may I say a fundamental quality of man, that when faced with extinction, every alternative is preferable

Dude you missed the point. The point is that love is so powerful that was able to create the entire world again. Elisabet teached Gaia how to love, and thus, created Aloy, the daughter she always wanted, and Aloy, by being a good person like his mother and Gaia, saved the world. And the other point of the game is that intelligence doesn't do any good if you dont love. Ted Faro was extremely intelligent, creating an entire A.I community of robots, but his ego fucked everything up.

that's what one of the scientist said

@john smith: not really. just those who are dominated by fear and afraid of the inevitable extinction of homo sapiens and/or those faced with the fact of their utter insignificance. western cultures have historically nurtured a pathological fear of death thanks to christianity lol and its perverse obsession with control.....our species is a failure in ecological terms (aside from a handful of indigenous societies).

This game made Anita Sarcheesyin wet! Men destroy world, strong and unattractive female saves it, Utopian matriarchy ensues forever!!

@@AzguardMike Cant just enjoy a good game, can we? Gotta inject politics into everything? Y'all are just as bad as the SJWs you bitch about, you realize.

@@tachy1801 also, adding to your already valid points; the Nora's strictly Matriarchal structure is not only well explained and developed (they ended up having the closest idea of origin of their world compared to the other tribes, though obviously twisted by time and lack of context) but is shown as not being at all perfect; women being completely in charge didn't stop the Tribe from enforcing damaging social constructs eg outcasting Aloy. Likewise, the Patriarchal structures of Carja and Oseram are shown to be imperfect. Overall, the game is fairly politically neutral, if maybe leaning towards feminist in displaying many women on par with men.

This really isnt that original, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind would like to have a word with you...

>Original The story of humans building super smart AI's and destroying the world in the process has been done time and time again. The only twist here? They built another AI to restore the earth wow so original. If they had the time to build something as complex as a terraforming AI in 16 months, they had time to build AI's to destroy the FERO plague. Dumbshit writing.

Same, i felt so emotional

But why? You are already playing as Aloy in the distant future, so clearly the apocalypse was successful.

@@Nimbus3690 One thing to see but still another thing to hear it I guess

@@RikudoMadaraUchiha true, I suppose. Still it was a good scene

@@Nimbus3690 I always just assumed humanity nuked itself back to the stone age before that. I never thought they had to rebuild everything from scratch.

The music is simply awesome

Ikcatcher this scene. Holy crap. It wasn't something I was expecting. I was completely blown away. I had to leave the room so I could calm the hell down. The only other game that has ever given me the same giddy excitement and a little overwhelming feeling was the final scene in Assassin's Creed 2 when you find the vault under the Vatican in Rome.

Along with the last scene with elisabeth and aloy

you could say one of the best scenes in gaming

Nah.

a great startup pitch by two co-founders, one explaining the problem, and the other delivering the solution in some 7 minutes.

Hanz Zimmer clone.

The military was already hiring the best of the best to build Project Zero Dawn. "Hey, Hans. Could we take you aside for just a few minutes?"

Hans Zimmer "I dunno General.... Wait what? Disney will pay me another $2.4 billion dollars AND let me cameo in star wars episode 24??? Deal!" Eliz : General, you do know we wont be alive.... General: Shut up! He's gonna do it isnt he? So start writing your damn script and record your damn hologram, woman.

Lmao but the music is not really there, it's just part of the player's experience

grimsoncrow what do you mean? What humans and plants?

He meant the original Humans were fucked...not the second batch.

Andymanaman They should have released that before this game. It would make for a nice twist.

Andymanaman That would have been amazingly unoriginal.

Atakan Aker how so? Two different game genre but in the same universe and story, that would be cool.

killzone maybe?

A continuous ininevitably losing battle. Perhaps not as captivating in long form

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If it can be made possible in the future, then Faro robots are also a possibility :^) If it is, I'd like to leave them out of the equation please! Whose brilliant idea was it to make robots that can build themselves and make others? :D

@@snowykitten6860 Sobeck also has this brilliant idea to empower another machine (GAIA) build and imagine her robots. ;) The problem is not in the building.

@@BaltasLapinas yea true But I was stating my speculation lol

It's possible that we'll use systems similar to Gaia to terraform Mars and other planets. But i think the most beautiful think about Gaia is that she capable not only to feel but also have FAITH she clearly said that believes in Elisabeth and even if it was extremely difficult that a clone without knowledge would be like Elizabeth and even survive enough to complete the mision, but she BELIEVED in that and bet everything to it

Thank goodness this did not turn out to be a Turok like game with modern animations.

Better than ark or turok imo

yeah. tony is basically a mega-asshole until he got captured lol

Nah, Elisabeth is the Tony Stark, Ted didn't know much about robots and technology, he was just an extremely good business man (too good)

nah ted actually a genius himself but more interested in business and pay someone to do his dirty, he hack into zero dawn system and created an omega level that above all alpha primes level then killed then all and delete apollo

It makes up how iton man is a genius to they both have robots and both created super robots (Stark created ultron to help them and the faro guy created them to help,they both are rich and they both hace milloard dollars companys

Such a stupid take. Only things Faro and Stark have in common is that they are both smart and rich. Personalities are wildly different.

What gets me is thinking about all those people hoping to survive long enough to be saved by Zero Dawn, not realising it's not even meant to save them. Billions of people dying in sheer terror as the robots come in and just start converting them to bio-fuel, likely without even bothering to kill them first. The lucky ones got to take their own lives. The cries in their voices in the recordings in USRC and the beta personnel near Eluthia-9, who never got the chance to join their families in Elysium. The mural in GAIA Prime and most of the recordings around it. I don't weep for death, but for the fear and suffering they must have endured. And the voice actors are really convincing in their emotions.

thats very true. but i think when we contemplate our own deaths we want, at some level, for it to have meaning. the lie that there was hope of beating the plague was a mercy; it let people believe that their deaths had meaning and that maybe if they died their friends, comrades, and families could still possibly live. the delay created by their sacrifice helped sobeck's team to finish the project in time. either way, their deaths had meaning both in their minds and in the reality of the game's universe.

So, one interesting tidbit is that we never actually saw Ted Faro's dead body... He was in his own personal version of Elysium separate from everyone else, but the specifics of what was in there to sustain him were few. My guess is that some form of Faro's consciousness will resurface in the sequel as the antagonist pulling the strings of Hades behind the scenes, and I really hope there is some chance of retrieving Apollo.

Twon Jonson Wow, when i first played through the game i had similar thoughts. That somehow Ted's consciousness survived and sent Gaia the transmission. Most likely his mind was transfered to a computer? Or, perhaps a digital copy of his mind was made?

The ultimate act of altruism.

Yeah, can't wait for Forbidden West

Yeah but the project wasn't a 100% success considering that Hephestus has been more dangerous machines over the years, we still don't know the whereabouts of Apollo and hades tried to restart since these 2 screwed up but got cought in a Horus and is propably corrupted by the FARO glitch. I haven't finished the main story yet.

Andrés Pétur Axelsson true, it will never be completed since Apollo was purged out of GAIA by Ted Faro. The original plan is to teach new generation of humans, so one day they could takeover the terraforming process from GAIA. At various parts of the story it is told that the machine wasn't aggressive in the first place, and only attack when provoked. The unidentified signal that made HADES to went rogue was also affected other subordinate functions, made them to work on their own. For HEPHAESTUS, it creates the strain of commands that make the machines more aggressive to human. Without GAIA to fix it, the subordinate functions are left to continue their work in a corruptive way. In a datalog you got from overriding one of the cauldron's core, there's a command string that states human as a high threat. As of the one that corrupt HADES, maybe it will be revealed in Horizon 2 (if there will be a Horizon 2 lol)

I'm so glad I didn't read this until I was done with the story, otherwise you would have spoiled sooooooooo much for me..... -_-

Hahaha I'm sorry dude!

What was it that triggered Hades? I've always wondered if there was a super-meta plot about how GAIA did indeed screw up, and now HADES is "cleaning up" her "mess".

Technically Project Zero Dawn first purpose is the crack code to shut down those bloody machines from Faro Plague,so he was not lieing.

Zeuzeu TV Indeed, in fact I thought 6:05 was even better, I felt it captured the struggle between survival and extinction of the human race through the use raw human intellect perfectly.

Incognito it's clearly more powerful but I guess it just comes along. Oh my this game ! And new songs of the extension are amazing too. I loved it from A to Z.

At that point I was like “let’s gooooooooo”

@@asel8189 s

I feel you, man. I feel you.

"Hitler, stalin, mao....none of them come close to the atrocities that I have committed."- Heres

@@700mobster when i first listened to that audio data point, i was shocked. that was before i watched this cutscene so it really made me wonder what horror could he have done. after seeing this cutscene, what he did was terrible, but i also can't bring myself to hate him. he had no other choice.

I dont believe that he was a monster. He did what he had to do. Ted Faro was a monster for purging apollo. Had his ego been in check, humanity would have never been in danger, and would likely be in a far better position to tackle nemesis than they are now.

@@MrBobinaterdude, he didnt care about anyone, the only reason he didnt kill the entire town was because he saw his mother. he is a cold unfeeling monster, but even people like that can still love their mother

same

Yeah...

Sure thing. Nothing cliché like "the odds are against us but we will persevere" or something along those lines. It's just "we're all gonna die and the mission is to postpone that moment as much as we can".

War never changes from Fallout refers to something different I believe, but I agree with your point.

In all honesty I don't think it matters. Human nature is human nature. Faro was incredibly naive there. All he did was reset humanity by thousands of years. With the old knowledge at least they could've advanced sooner.

I think Ted did it because he didn't want to be known as the man who destroyed the Earth among the new generation of humans, all in the name of profit and self-image. After all, the Faro plague was named after him.

+DarkUnity No. It was stupid and selfish. KILLING the one chance for humanity to unified in purpose and the understanding needed to STOP making the same mistakes. 'Innocence' as Faro defined it is the CAUSE not the ANSWER to the miseries of the world. ... and the fucker just didn't want his name known to history as the fool who ended the world. His deletion of Apollo was the greatest act of selfish cowardice ever.

There's no excuse for what Faro has done. He condemned humanity to go through every sin and mistake AGAIN, and not only that final one that was entirely his to begin with. Look at the Nora, how many people like Aloy wouldn't have had to go through years of shunning and loneliness if the tribe had been knowledgeable and educated ? Look at the Carja, how many human sacrifices would have been prevented if only most people knew the sun wasn't sentient, even less a GOD ? Their mad king would have been arrested much much sooner because people WOULD have known about madness to begin with ! And think about how many women had to endure pregnancy and childbirth without any medical care ? How many children died from stupid colds, fevers which could have been HEALED with just a little of the ancient knowledge ? But notice how ignorance did not prevent people from rediscovering weapons ? Rejoice ! Apollo died but the Art of War survived fine ! What Faro did was erase whatever GOOD THINGS humanity had discovered/created ! The life-saving, beautiful things ! And his reason is bullshit ! He just didn't want to be remembered as the idiot he was ! But Karma is a bitch cause now, thanks to Aloy and people like Sylens, he will be remembered not only as the creator of the Plague BUT also as a COWARD, a DIRTY MURDERER and the one responsible for EVERY DEATH THAT CAME AFTER THE REBIRTH OF EARTH ! So he can as well become the Devil of the New World as far as we know, because he certainly outdid every Satan of the Old One.

What this have to do with Assassins Creed?

@@rodrigobogado8756 at the end of the first Assassin Creed you discover that this our world is a post-apocalyptic one. Humans survived a catastrophe, rebuild society and forgot what happened. This is why you find 'magic' devices in the past. They wanted to tell a complete story and finish it by part three. But the franchise became so successful that they had to release new instalments every year. They pretty much dropped the story by making it very, very convoluted. This scene explains everything for Horizon Zero Dawn.

I literally thought the same when this pandemic started

Do you mean in a good way or a bad way? Can you elaborate?

@@lochness5524 good way, he probably means it as when the deep story hits you

Red Rock Seven They could make it like Killzone

An fps in HZD world? I'm down with that.

They should have flashback scenes in the sequel. It would probably be depressing moments, where you and other humans would be facing hundreds upon hundreds of corrupters and deathbringers, facing certain death. Could be a very powerful moment if executed well.

There is something similar called Earth Defense Force, except you fight giant insects, frogs and flying saucers instead of robots and you can actually exterminate them. I didn't it is easy, though.

This is how you make a open world game man i love horizen

i mean horizon have best story and BOTW have unique gameplay

@@falchi0n2.08 i found botw gameplay borning ngl

If you've enjoyed playing both of them, it shouldn't matter which won what, right?

@@tomassoejakto right except i loved horizen and hated breath of the wild

yeah. the ruins of denver and whatnot are achingly gorgeous

Never combine limitless multiplication and the ability to consume all forms of biomass into lifeless fuel. Either of this is bad as is. But put them together and you are begging for the end of all life. Combat AI is best left in an advisory role. To analyze and increase the effectiveness of troops through remote controlled drones. Never put the machines in charge of themselves. Unless...there is no one else left but the machine as it has to look after itself to finish the task it has been given and then put itself to rest. Awaiting further instructions.

technology advanced enough to recreate entire biosphere from the ground (heh), but not advanced enough to create the same kind of conditions on a different planet, e.g. Mars

From what I understood, they created GAIA and her subordinate AIs to do the problem solving for them.

too bad they didnt create another gaia abd flew it to a potientionally habitable planet

pommie303 they did it was called Project Odyssey. It launched shortly before Project Zero Dawn was finished. Well......the antimatter drive malfunctioned and both the Life giving similar to Gaia and it's crew perished in its explosion before leaving the solar system.

This is why I always feel sad when colonization and space travel don't get the public and government support it truly needs. I grew up watching Star Trek, I want humanity to explore the stars and find new worlds, hopefully before we finally destroy this one.

sequel has been announced xD

The killer robots came after Gaia destroyed herself to stop Hades

colonization is a disease and the cause of humanity's worst atrocities. havent you been paying attention?

derwen talia colonization in an island with an already established human and animal population maybe but not on a lifeless rock millions of miles away from the Earth.

? You realize that the 99% dna match thing works on offsprings too? It doesn’t have to be cloning. Children DNA is only slightly different than the parents because most of humans DNA is shared among us all.

Unfortunately Hades turn back

Aloy gets emotional when she hears it as well.

Good luck making Gaia feel emotions

There are already a couple ML chatbots with millions of hours of learned patterns that are open source. No need to reinvent the wheel. She wasn't feeling emotions rather "it" was just building contextual patterns and combining them with her creators personality traits to form her own "identity" but at the end of the day its all 1's and 0's. This story is based on modern day technology from their past not something from a super advanced civilization like a "Q" from star trek etc.

@@euuIgor Revisiting due to chatGPT

I know I’m really late to answer this, but I will anyway. I actually think it’s unlikely for the language to have changed very much in most cases. In terms of the English language, the majority of changes were due to different invasions into England bringing new words and vocabulary into use. For example, the invasion of the Vikings, and William the Conqueror’s invasion from Normandy, both drastically changing the language. In the case of H:ZD, however, assuming all GAIA facilities were set up in English, and every human would be brought up with this language, there are no outside influences to change the language. This would result in a far slower evolution of language, more akin to the expansion of the dictionary to include yolo, rather than the difference between modern and Medieval English. That being said though, I’m no linguist and I may be completely wrong

Well, how are we gonna play the game if we can't understand it?

Aloy doesn't understand the concept of the words, she only knows the context of the situation and she tries to figure it out by practicing (we can even see her practicing when she was a child), that's how people used to create things and learn about it.

@Dr. Cool True, they would have spoken English. However languages change over time, new words are added, obsolete words drop off words take on new definitions etc. We as English speakers wouldn't be as well understood by, let's say the passengers of the Mayflower and the changes in language to account for that happened in a little less than a third of the time with continuous and more available education over said period. In the roughly four or five centuries since the ancestors of the Carja left the wilds, their language would also evolve differently, becoming a whole different dialect. Yes, it's going to be derived from English but it's not necessarily going to sound like it.

@@emperorleachicus2199 A good point but there are Old English passages that need a few linguistic courses to even understand what was being said. Or if we look at the sheer writing down of letters, English got rid of the thorn (The 'Th' that we see written by 'ye' in a lot of fiction and even some historic settings). There's even more recent examples, like the divergent dialects in Spanish both within South and Central America and between those two and Spain itself (My secondary school Spanish classes focused on Venezuela's dialect because they were our neighbors but it takes a bit more time for students to understand someone from Cuba or Puerto Rico.) Same language, different sounds, sometimes different words for the same thing and Spanish has had maybe 500 years or so for that to happen. I'm no linguist either but the trends are there.

If you want that approach, I reckon a spin-off would work better, just so they don’t ruin the main story. Instead of wasting time making their own version of this story, they could use it to make their own Thats set in this universe