Glad to hear you enjoyed the video. I haven’t made the jump to bench rest, not sure I will. I stick on the hunter side of the line. But accuracy has a lot in making ethical harvests. Thanks for watching. Semper Fi.

@@suburbanhunt3653 my moa was 4.5 inches at 1000 yards. And .061 at 100.

Thank you for watching. I have the materials just need to the rain to give me a chance to get back out to the range.

Thank you for that. And thank you for watching. SEMPER FI brother

Thank you Sir. They just seem to be all around better but of course we will put that to the test!!😁 A thousand thank yous brother

Thank you. I love doing this. Thanks for watching.

Thank you and thanks for watching

That’s amazing!! 147 Yards and DRT!!! That’s great!!! Before doing these test I wouldn’t even have thought about a shot that far with a muzzleloader. Thanks for the story and for watching. Throw me an email at Suburbanhunt365@gmail get some info from and see if we can’t line up a meet. I love talking to other hunter and hearing their experiences.

Yes Sir!!! I went out and bought what I could of these guys. Looking forward to testing with BH209

Thank you. Will do

Thank you. Again thank you for watching.

Right!!

Thank you. As we say.. “Good luck and shot straight” Thank you for watching

Thank you!!! That’s the greatest complement I could ever ask for. Thank you for watching

My thoughts exactly!!! Best of luck with your hope they are just a good if not better. Please update me on a you have tested them. I would love to get feedback from anyone and everyone one these.

Wow!! I was at the range with the 200gr Shockwaves this week and they did pretty well. Video will post this Wednesday. The 200gr did pretty well.. and the heavier projectiles do seem to do better as a whole. I will have to track some down. Thanks for watching.

Please tell me where!!! I will be driving back through at the end of the week.

As you can tell by the wall behind me… I love me some Hornady. Dies, projectiles, and the bullets!!! “Ultima” 🤣😂🤣

@suburbanhunt3653 I keep trying to share the store but youtube keeps taking it down. It's called Doc's guns in Eureka Missouri just off 44. Hopefully they let this one stay.

@@patheubel560 crap I was very close to it just a couple weeks ago. I will make sure to get over there soon!!

Yes sir I need to run those through the chrono. 🤦‍♂️

I would love to know how that goes for you!!! After shooting these I’m highly recommending them to everyone to test. Thank ms for watching and good luck this season.

That’s for sure!! Have you used or tested these? I would love to know how they are working for others.

@@suburbanhunt3653 Have not tried those I wasn't impressed with the weight retention of the original bore driver but these being heavier should do better. I have my accura pr set up shooting 1" groups with federal bor locks and 100gr of blackhorn.

@@shamrock1738able Very nice. What primer are you using? I tested that combo with CCI 209mags and was over 3” group. Just goes to show each rifle is different. Also, in the videos that I mentioned, I believe it was between 65 and 80% retention

@@suburbanhunt3653 Ive had good luck with the Winchester 209 shotshell primers the blue box. Different guns definitely have their preference. Looking forward to your loose powder tests of that BLR

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I thought the same thing!! I have to pick up some more ELD-X packs. Most places only have 1 pack and with 12/pack it takes 2 packs per video. But yes I plans to get at least 4 more packs for the primer change and to do a ladder test on BH209. I love the idea of using the best group to test. Thank you I will use that.

Holy cow!!!! I must know more about the Remington UML!! I love my 700 and me 870!! Makes sense they would have a Bad A@@ muzzleloader also🥳 Thanks for watching and good luck out there.

@@suburbanhunt3653 I added an Arrowhead Rifles breechplug to facilitate the shooting of BH209 (no flame cutting issues common to the REM UML factory plug), along with adding pillars, bedding, and free floating the barrel. Shoots very good.

Excellent!!! Thank you welcome to the channel

Really!?!? They had a 6 1/2 inch group for me with 100gr charge. I haven’t tested the 150gr yet.

Thank you Sir. I enjoy making them. And learn a lot in the process. Thanks for watching

@@suburbanhunt3653 ur welcome I live way up in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan muzzloader season is best time to hunt working making my cva into a sniper rifle lol

The drop depended on the powder charge. During the test I was using the Konus’s 125 yard mark. So the group closer to the top of the target would need very little adjustment while the ones closer to the red bull’s eye would need more. I would imagine only a inch or so adjustment would be needed to get you up and running.

@@suburbanhunt3653 thanks for your reply DJ appreciate your time and money spent to show us new things and plenty of infor.

Yes Sir. Hind sight I’m not using the Blue MZs any more. They are not easy to find and they, as you mentioned, haven’t done very well. For now I’m sticking with the ELDXs they are an awesome round. Our last video show they stopping a doe in her track. Awesome round.

Not that I have noticed. But I don't have a barrel cam to check. Thanks for watching.

I use triple 7 foaming cleaner with swab and patches. Then I use a nylon brush for the ring(if any) and the threads for the plug.

That’s awesome. I landed on 80gr and man it punched a doe on opening weekend. Stay tuned for that video. Thanks for watching and good luck in the woods.

What kind of velocity do you know.

@@charleycrawford2857 LOL. I laugh because that is the most asked question and I failed to run the chrono. 😵 I will making video very soon to answer the velocity questions.

They are easier to clean yes

Yes sir I plan to do a ladder test and zero my rifle in for that combo. Next time I go to the range that’s what I’m doing.

I asked Hornady for a recommended load of Blackhorn 209 in my Rem. 700 UML. They suggested 82g by weight.to produce 1855 fps. @@suburbanhunt3653

I didn’t run the chrono on this test…. And man should I have!!! So I will use you comment to prompt a 200 yard challenge where I can get the velocities and the drops for each. Seems fair. My rifle is zeroed for those rounds so it a simple day at the range. Give a week or so to get it to you. Thanks for watching.

Good deal it’ll be interesting to see the results, my accura lr-x loves these bullets. Sub moa at 100 yards all day.

You are 100% correct. For no good reason I stopped lugging the chronograph. That was clearly a mistake. I’ve multiple comments about the velocity. Next time I go I will make sure to have it with me. Truth is I need to bite the bullet and get the smaller ones that attach to the rifle. Thank you for watching

First off thank you watching. And Yes, because of the cost video that I did, I will running Triple 7 FFG&FFFG as well as Pyrodex RS and Pyrodex Select to compare the loose powders to Black Horn 209. As for comparing loose to pellets....I truly feel there is no comparison. If the are willing to take the time Loose Powder is KING!!!! You will have much more consistent loads with loose. To add another step I would recommend weight vs volume as the shape of the powder will change the amount of air space and ultimately the powder charge of the load. As for the range time please email me @ suburbanhunt365@gmail.com and we can discuss. I would love to hit the range with you. Just need to work out the details if possible.

@@suburbanhunt3653 hey dj I would love to donate some money to your account to offset the cost your videos. I know the price of the components you are using and thank you for everything you are doing for our sport. So just let me know how to send it to you and I’ll get it to you asap. Again thank you for all you are doing.

@@richardtuler7284 the easiest way is the Super Thanks located under each video. If you would prefer Venmo or PayPal it’s @suburbanhunt365 or cash app $suburbanhunt365. Please don’t feel obligated but we welcome any donations. Thank you for watching and being part of what we are doing here on this channel.

The eldx has it's own jag you can buy. A powerbelt eld jag may work but haven't tried it.

I was using the standard rod. I chose to do so because I believe that Hornady should have provided it if the accuracy required it. Like the ELRs and others. That being said if the jig helps accuracy… brother watch out she a bad B….😜

Not yet. I’m working on getting some. I have had several comments on Thor. So I will be headed there next. Thanks for watching

As for the elk I haven’t hunted any with it was I couldn’t say. As for the cleaning.. yes I use a T7 foaming cleaning after each group. Making sure that no ring is left that could effect the next group.

@@suburbanhunt3653 I’ve been using the pre saturated patches as that’s all I can find near me. But after cleaning my barrel my shots are all over the place until about the 4th shot anything you recommend?

@@brandon22333 I also used the pre-saturated patches. For the White Hots and Firestars they worked ok. But for the T7 and Pyrodex the T7 foam took out the ring better. As for the clean bore try popping a primer to foul the barrel then test. But if you have to shoot 4 rounds to start getting accurate shots I would suggest testing other combos that like your rifle harmonics. See every shot puts more fouling in the barrel. Doing so changes your harmonics slightly. Apparently yours current combo like the dirtier barrel. But to have to shot 4 rounds then Go to the tree stand…. Ouch.

@@suburbanhunt3653 I’ve popped 4 primers no change haha I’m going to try some different bullets this weekend. I got those eld x boredrivers and Barnes tez and federal borlock I’ll try again with 100grains of the powders I have. I have everything minus the fire stars can’t find em anywhere.

@@brandon22333 - good deal. I would love to know how that goes. If you are willing could you send an update letting me know where you land? I would love to know.

Yes after each group.

Wow!! I have questions, as you could imagine. You used both 2 and 3 pellet charges? What weight projectile? I know that CVA rifles are rated from magnum charges but going from 150 to 180? I have to say I’m intrigued!! To get that kind of range from a muzzleloader? This I have to try. Please tell me more. I seen these at my local Academy Sports so please let me know!!

@@suburbanhunt3653 they are 60 grain pellets only use 2 for a total of 120 grain Magnum charge and I would aim bout 55 plus feet high with 250 grain bullet for 400 yards the bullets will got that far there's a video on KZfaq cva optima V2 where he consistently hits at 350 yards just type it in should come up awesome video bro be cool if you had the velocity and muzzle energy on there also nobody does a ballistic test long range I always wondered wat those bullets would do 200 or 300 yards

Also my I never tried the bullets you have in video I'ma get sum this year when I got some extra money my favorite bullets are elr 330 grain and traditions smackdown xr 200 grain low recoil and very fast those are favorite the sabot on those smackdown cleans your bore when you load I've shot 8 to 10 rounds back to back no cleaning

@@Bobby-od2yf I will pick up the magnum T7s and run the projectile challenge for starters. If the accuracy is there I will stretch it out. Might have to upgrade my scope to get those ranges repeatedly.

Optima V2 LR

Yes Sir. The world is going to do what it does and as always… we adapt and overcome!! Semper Fi

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I’m using my CVA Optima V2 that is in all the videos. Yes I usually leave the same load in the rifle til the end of the hunt. So like in my 3 day hunt video the loaded combo stayed in the rifle til the last day. At which point I fire the round to clear the gun and clean it prior to leaving camp.

Just started test with them. Interested to see what happens.

HOW EASY OR HARD DID THOSE HORNADY ELD X'S LOAD?@@suburbanhunt3653

Can do!!