Hornby 00 Gauge Live Steam on the Modular Model Railway

Hornby 00 Gauge Live Steam on the Modular Model Railway - 6K Subscriber Special!

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In this 6K Subscriber Special I'm finally running the Hornby Live Steam on the Modular Model Railway!
Well here we are at 6K Subscribers already, I had to do something special and I really think you'll like what I've got in store for today's video. Earlier this year I made a couple of videos featuring my Hornby Live Steam A4 Mallard and you guys really seemed to enjoy those videos. Ever since then a lot of you have been asking me to run the Hornby Live Steam on the Modular Model Railway... and today I'm making that dream a reality!
As you'll see in the video, this wasn't without it's problems. By it's very nature, the Modular Model Railway is easy to dismantle and reassemble but over time a few little gremlins have crept in. The Hornby Live Steam also doesn't operate like our conventional 12v DC and DCC models and so it took bit of head scratching to figure out how to get everything working. Did I succeed and did the Hornby Live Steam Mallard run on the Modular Model Railway? Well you'll have to watch to find out!
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:57 - Testing with The Flying Scotsman
05:10 - Track Joint Maintenance
06:20 - A Failed Attempt
07:20 - Voltage Drop!
08:19 -Steaming Up
10:31 - The Final Run!
13:12 - Conclusion
Thanks for watching!

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@tidzaboy 4 ай бұрын

Hi TMRG, that's going to be a great layout when you have it's fully scenic, nice work. Glad you found the fix for the voltage drop, what I would add, if you have not already done it, is to wire EVERY piece of track that you want to use for Live Steam.... forget relying on ANY fishplate joiner. I would also say you can improve the 'Driving' experience, by buying and building a OO Live Steam Club 'Live Drive' controller, as these give you 'Instant' response control. You seem a competent modeller, so making the kit would be easy for you. Enjoy the Live Steam fun. it's addictive ! Joe

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 4 ай бұрын

Hi there, this video is a few years old now and the layout is actually fully complete from a scenic point of view. The layout does already have dropper wires on. each section as I use DCC when running normal locomotives. The controller is definitely something I've looked at in the past. Maybe now that the layout is finished it's something I'll have time for in the future. Thanks for watching 😃

@rodvisman5984 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the 6000+ subscribers, and what a way to celebrate! Mallard running around in steam is a great achievement, looks absolutely magnificent. Hoping your channel keeps growing like it deserves and we get to see more live steam in future episodes.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rod, yeah it was great to see Mallard finally getting a chance to stretch her legs on a proper layout for once! Glad you're enjoying the videos and thanks for watching 😃

@NicholassTrainChannel 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video mate. Firstly congrats on 6K subcsribers and as the saying goes it's "Onwards and upwards" from hear mate. The Mallard looks really nice running around your layout. Rewireing the layout must of been a long job but i guess it all payed off as the engine runs nicely now. Congrats again.- Nicholas.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nicholas, the channel just keeps growing and it's crazy to think this time last year I didn't even have 1k Subs! The re-wiring did take a long time (as you can see from the progress I made on the layout in the mean time) but I guess the issues provided us with a bit of entertainment 😂 Thanks for watching 👍

@timmoffat3182 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome runner

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Tim, yeah it is good fun - it certainly keeps me on my toes though! Thanks for watching 😃

@PalomboDylan 6 ай бұрын

I love watching live steam fire up processes and that includes the Hornby live steam. There's just something calming about it, as well as relaxing.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 6 ай бұрын

Yes there is a certain magic about it. Thanks for watching 😃

@PalomboDylan 6 ай бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy I’m still watching on and off I’ve been busy. It’s an honor and privilege to receive a reply from you. By the way, smart idea having the tracks where the separate base boards connect soldered to screws.

@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. CHEERS from over seas UNITED STATES 🇺🇸

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 😃

@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Your more than welcome

@loispadgett6306 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on 6 thousand subscribers. Even with rewiring problem you got it fixed and well worth it. Beautiful engine what fun to see it running. GOD BLESS from America 🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lois, it's great to see the channel growing so quickly! Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching 😃

@SouthDown 2 жыл бұрын

I had no idea a LIVE STEAM model was a thing. And just as I was about to ask how it works, I found your "How does it work" video.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Yeah Live Steam is definitely a thing, it's usually reserved for the larger (outdoor) gauges but the Hornby Live Steam system is something really unique. Thanks for watching 😃

@nigelcole1936 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on your 6000

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nigel! 😃

@HemelDownModelRailway 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the 6k very well deserved, great to see the live steam mallard going round your layout great job on getting it to run 🙂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark! Yeah it was great to finally get it running on a proper layout after all this time. Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching 😃

@josephharper3768 2 жыл бұрын

You put on a good show. Nice to know that it is not all sunshine and rainbows putting together the model with good modelers also. Thanks for the inspiration to keep working on my own satisfaction. Beautiful run.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure Joseph! Yes I do try to show when things don't go to plan when possible. I've never considered myself an expert modeller but as I do have a small following now I don't want people to think that the layout runs perfectly all the time... anyone who has watched one of my livestreams can confirm that definitely isn't the case! Thanks for watching 😃

@StockportJambo 2 жыл бұрын

Man, what a rollercoaster. And the Mallard was like a legend to me growing up. Brilliant video man.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, it was certainly a fun video to make - kept me on my toes! Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching 😃

@tagsdm 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on this vid, That Model Railway Guy. This has been one of your most informative and entertaining to date. The Failed Attempt and Rewiring segments were great. What a chore, rewiring. But all's well in the end! Mallard looks great.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear you enjoyed it! Yes it was a bit of trial and error but all worthwhile in the end. Thanks for watching 😃

@skyfall2360 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic update..love your videos..and that mallard looks superb ...thank-you so much for your updates

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear you're enjoying the videos! The live steam Mallard is a lot of fun to run, I just need to finish off the scenery on the layout now. Thanks for watching 😃

@mandbhomestead 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! What an engine, actual steamer running. Love it. Great job on the issue you had and getting it fixed. Thanks for sharing, stay safe. Ken

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

They are something special aren't they! Yes, the electrical issues had me puzzled for a while but actually it wasn't difficult to solve, just tedious 😂 Thanks for watching 👍

@madbren 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on getting to 6k subscribers mate, great video content 👍👍

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, so glad you're enjoying the videos! Thanks for watching 😃

@speleokeir 2 жыл бұрын

I don't envy you having to re-wire the whole layout, but it's all been worth it. Mallard looks superb steaming around and showing her paces. Beautiful!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was a pretty long process but thankfully it was all worthwhile! Thanks for watching 😃

@matthew_thefallen 2 жыл бұрын

every month you have 1k subs, it's incredible! Well deserved :D

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matthew, it is really great to know that people are enjoying the videos. I'm super thankful and it really inspires me to keep making great content for you guys! Thanks for watching 😃

@Nate_the_Great-4472 2 жыл бұрын

When you said it would take a huge amount of work, I was like, aw man. That sucks, and when you said yeah it took awhile, but it’s done, the amount of joy that made my face light up, I can’t tel you the joy I felt

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, yeah there's a gap of about 4 months in there while I gradually worked my way around the layout re-wiring everything. Glad I got it done though, it made for a good ending! Thanks for watching 😃

@Trainspotting_UK 2 жыл бұрын

First. And happy 6k subs

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Harry, it's great to know people are still enjoying my silly little videos! Thanks for watching 😃

@SteamTech_4468 Жыл бұрын

Awesome Video, brilliant to see one of these running like this :) Volt Drop can be a real nightmare especially when it causes random issues like this.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

This was certainly a fun (and hectic!) livestream to do. I really do need to run the Live Steam Mallard more often! Yeah voltage drop is a pain, this was even after I'd rewired half of the layout to avoid it too 😅 Thanks for watching 👍

@lewiscartwright3609 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on 6k subscribers so keep up the informative and inspiring videos also Tomorrow is My Birthday and I am going to be 17 years old Cheers.Lewis 👍👌👍👌

@loispadgett6306 2 жыл бұрын

Happy 17th Birthday 🎂🎉🎊 GOD BLESS 🚂💖🚂💖🚂💖

@lewiscartwright3609 2 жыл бұрын

@@loispadgett6306 Thank you and God bless you too

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lewis, glad you're enjoying the videos and Happy Birthday! Thanks for watching 😃

@lewiscartwright3609 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy my pleasure and thank you Cheers.Lewis

@adam_fordham 2 жыл бұрын

What a great video, the mallard looked fantastic running around the layout, bit annoying you had to re-wire the layout but it was definitely worth it and congrats on 6k subs 👍🏻

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adam, yeah it really does look good running on the layout! I know, so annoying about needing to re-wire everything but the voltage drop was so unpredictable. Hopefully though, now that I've recovered from that escapade, work on the layout will pick up now I'm feeling more inspired! Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching 😃

@anglingsteve 2 жыл бұрын

The mallard looks great it might have took you a lot of work but well worth it

@lendusaquid 2 жыл бұрын

I so glad you have made a live steam video. They are such a different way of running a model railway. You have to be a mini steam engine engineer. I have just serviced my own live steam Mallard and it was a bit scary taking it apart for the first time but i learnt a lot in the process. And for your next challenge try stopping it at the station .

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure, they're great to fun to run and definitely present a bit of a challenge too. I have managed to stop a station a few times but I'm not consistent enough to do it on video yet! Thanks for watching 😃

@theeverythingkid 2 жыл бұрын

I just subscribed like 15 minutes ago. Wow, your doing so well

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks so much for Subscribing! Hope you enjoy the videos, there's usually a new one every Sunday! Thanks for watching 😃

@NextEevolution 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Live Steam Mallard and Seagull. I was a bit disappointed, as I wanted the Live Steam Papyrus insteal of a second A4 but they are gorgeous locomotive models. Makes me happy to see this!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the Papyrus looks like a great model but I'm just jealous you've got two of these Live Steam locos! Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching 😃

@RichardCox-ze7of 5 ай бұрын

😊

@thestandardfour0699 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff! Love these live seam engines, 5o get one now it's about 500 pound upwards

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

They are great aren't they - bonkers move from Hornby but fantastic all the same! To be honest they were £500 brand new over 15 years ago so not bad considering they're collectors items now. I have seen some on eBay for £2,000 though!!! Thanks for watching 😃

@railway187 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice video, well done! It would be nice to get more of the sound of the locomotive. An action cam with a decent microphone on a platform car coupled to the steamer would be a nice thing to see this steam action in close up. Thanks for sharing this very interesting video and congratulations with 6K subs 👍🎉🥳👏👏👏👏👏👏

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! To be honest the loco doesn't make a lot of sound. What little there is is drowned out by the wheels turning and the heater noise so what you can hear in this video is pretty much it. Thanks for watching 😃

@LiveSteamNick 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy if you have a modern phone with a Slo Mo video setting you can get awesome steam chuff on playback along with realistic running motion

@geoffgunn9673 2 жыл бұрын

Also, try using a glycerine/glycol mix for more steam . Vape juice basically. Would be more of a show

@andrewd244 2 жыл бұрын

ah yes and completely gum up the inside of the loco

@lendusaquid 2 жыл бұрын

Its not a smoke generator its a real steam engine.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hi there! As others have mentioned already this isn't a smoke generator, it's an actual working miniature steam locomotive so adding glycerine would probably damage the internals. Even tap water can be damaging in the long run so these live steam locos are pretty delicate. Thanks for watching 😃

@geoffgunn9673 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy I do realise it is a scale model and as such adheres to slightly different properties as a real engine would. And I suppose you would need to keep it clean to keep running and at that scale, deposits are going to occur exponentially with tap water, even de mineralised I would avoid. Mind you, I think a pure mix wouldn't cause harm as it all evaporates off at low temperatures. Might be an issue building a head of steam , or than again it might work better at scale. You do have to account for the scale of it all as things change by powers of when scaling down and physics changes a lot. Be interesting to try with one of the simple steam engine designs around and see it it all worked.

@geoffgunn9673 2 жыл бұрын

@@lendusaquid I realise that, but would be a lot more realistic with the right amount of steam showing,. :)

@richardclowes6123 2 жыл бұрын

Bet you're glad you got that sorted and the Mallard finally running. The Mallard is both my wife's and mine favourite train. My main concern is whether it would manage 1st radius curves. My Hogwarts Express is similar; 4-6-0 with tender and manages them ok. Do you have any 1st Radius curves on your circuit ??

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, I can't speak for the normal A4 Mallard model but certainly for the live steam version Hornby recommend 3rd Radius as the minimum and that's what they supply in the set. I'm inclined to agree with them on this one, the live steam engines are tricky to control and if they go round a bend at any kind of speed they are likely to come off. It's happened to me multiple times so I wouldn't want to try it on 1st Radius personally. Hope that helps 😃

@ThatVoxelBlock 2 жыл бұрын

to wire the Modular railway ive use a ribbon connector or a db9 or brakeout pcb and a short cable

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Kieran, yeah that's a great way to do it if you have lots of wires to cross between boards. For me it's just the two power cables so I'm able to get away with something a bit more simple. Thanks for watching 😃

@geoffgunn9673 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. :) Just a question. have you tried rail joiners for the joints to help alignment?? Also, a good thing to have with a modular system is a good electrical system that has decent connections between modules if you already haven't ::D

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Geoff, I use rail joiners/fishplates for all the other track joints but over the baseboards joints it's not feasible as they would get damaged too easily. I've shown the the wiring system in more detail in some of my layout build videos as well if you're interested. Thanks for watching 😃

@geoffgunn9673 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy I was thinking more using them when you assemble it and removing them after. Even soldering a small piece in the center as a stop. Only use them when needed and taker them all off when you split it up. I'll have to check the wiring out. always good to see someone else's take on it. Might learn something too

@PalomboDylan 6 ай бұрын

i love my Hornby live steam Mallard. wish hornby would put out a new free manual for all hornby live steamers to show how to get to the input working voltage switch inside the transformer so americans would know how to get to the said switch and flip said switch so americans would not have trouble running their live steam locos from the get go

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 6 ай бұрын

I believe if you contact the Hornby Customer Service department they still offer help and support with these locos, despite them being discontinued for well over a decade now. Thanks for watching 👍

@7360451 2 жыл бұрын

Great video.I have 2 A4 live steam loco,s.Run them on a large circular layout in loft.I had just one feed for the whole of the circle.I also had a lift up section with just one feed to the lift up bit.Fine on DC but on the live steam as it came off the lift up bit it suddenly went into reverse.Put another feed on the other end of the lift up section and everthing is fine.Just goe,s to show that the smallest break in the power supply will cause chaos Jim

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jim, that sounds awesome! Good to know it's not just me that has been caught out by voltage drop too. Glad you got it sorted and thanks for watching 😃

@skydive7054 4 ай бұрын

i'd like to see this thing run at full speed!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 4 ай бұрын

I've done a couple of videos where it runs on the rolling road at full speed. On a layout though, it'll just fly off the track if it's going too fast. Thanks for watching 😃

@PeterSchmieder 2 жыл бұрын

Since you use some cardboard buildings on this layout, I'd like to hear about your experience with Live Steam and cardboard. I have some Hornby Live Steam models. On my older layout which I built before getting into Live Steam, I had a lot of cardboard buildings. But when I started building my Live Steam layout, I decided not to use any cardboard there - at least not to close to the rails - since I was afraid the steam might damage the cardboard. So I'd like to know whether you had any problems with that.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey there, to be honest the cardboard buildings were just temporarily on the layout to make it look more interesting for filming. That said I didn't have any problems as the steam from the loco is quite wispy. The Metcalfe road bridge is a permanent fixture and the steam hasn't caused this to warp at all, though I try not to stop it directly under the bridge or in the tunnel. Really the only time the loco ejects large bursts of steam and water is when you're first getting it going, which I try to do in the fiddle yard anyway. If you really wanted to play it safe though I suppose what you could do is give your cardboard buildings a coat of matt spray varnish after building them. That would probably protect them from the worst of the steam but generally I don't find it to be too much of an issue. Great question though, thanks for watching 😃

@alexsrailway5420 2 жыл бұрын

very nice! id recomend you turn of the lights and watch the front bogey to make sure it isn't arcing between the wheels and cylinders

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Alex, interesting - is that something you've had problems with? I've never seen that happen with the Hornby Live Steam locos before. Thanks for watching 😃

@alexsrailway5420 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy it's happend to me a couple of times. it's quite a common issue with live steam locos, especially if youre running 3rd radius or sharper turns. or running the a3

@LiveSteamNick 2 жыл бұрын

@@alexsrailway5420 also it only happens on the right hand or starboard side of the loco as the chassis is polarised to the left or Port side rail.

@TheModellersMess 14 күн бұрын

Could you do this again now that your modular layout is at a complete state??

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 14 күн бұрын

I probably will at some point but I'm a bit busy with the new layout build at the moment so the modular layout isn't setup right now. Thanks for watching 👍

@LiveSteamNick 2 жыл бұрын

You should also be able to run it at a crawl. If not the forward timing needs tuning to get the best out of the loco.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Nick, it will run at a crawl just not with a set of coaches on the back combined with gradient in the room. After all these years the timing probably could be adjusted slightly but it’s not something I want to risk making worse considering it currently runs well enough for my purposes anyway. Thanks for watching 😃

@LiveSteamNick 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy if you bring it along to our OO live steam club layout one day at a show we can service it for you and release the beast within! Ha ha!! Our record pull is 42 coaches!!!!

@vyasasaatvikakundi 2 жыл бұрын

Hello That model railway guy, I was inspired by you. I want to buy this set. I could not find any information about this set for sale. Please tell us where you bought the set. It looks so beautiful and looks like the real A4 Pacific mallard is running. Please tell us where you bought it. Waiting for your reply. Reply soon. Thank You Vyasa Saatvik Akundi

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Vyasa, the Hornby Live Steam sets haven't been made for quite a while now. I think they ended production in 2012 so they're collectors items that aren't readily available anymore. That said you could check out eBay as there always seems to be a few on there but obviously the prices can vary somewhat. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 😃

@earthnerd3165 Жыл бұрын

how do i buy this?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

Hornby stopped making/selling these over a decade ago so you'd have to look into finding one second hand I'm afraid. Thanks for watching 👍

@earthnerd3165 Жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy ok, i was looking forward to buy one for a present on a birthday, thanks for the advice anyways

@LiveSteamNick 2 жыл бұрын

Never ever use tap water!!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yep that’s generally the best rule. Like I said in the video you can run it on tap water for a bit but you’ll soon regret it. Thanks for watching 😃

@LiveSteamNick 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy indeed one run on britains finest will deposit enough calcium to start you down a rocky road of blockages! A soak in Vinegar will help remove blockages.