...where they can harvest it (and they do).

No, it's not just about "getting away from BIG TECH", it's also about the cost/benefit ratio. Nowadays, e.g Google Apps costs about 5 bugs/mail/month account; running your own web and mail server costs almost the same. And I don't have to deal with GPDR issues and security concerns that I can't solve myself.

Absolutely 💯 agreed

I don't see much value in storing mails in your own infrastructure. Mails are always leaving your server, they're always stored somewhere else, what's then out of your control in every case. The only way to really ensure private mail communication is end to end encryption, you can realize with both self-hosted or cloud providers. So in the end it really doesn't matter, in my opinion.

@@christianlempa not really.. all email sent to coworkers stay on premises so I kinda agree with OP

@wakkowarner9522 they'd have to supena one of you. I agree I don't like it on external server

Beware of that advice and never trust any encryption from those big corporation, we know they have access to actual private keys as shown with the guy arrested because of photos uploaded on iCloud and a few other examples

Thanks mate! Great idea :)

Which opensource mail server did you end up using? There are so many nowadays just trying to see which one is most up to date and user friendly. Let me know if there is a video you recommend.

@@projectspage5396 Mailcow has turned out to be advantageous. It is a complete mail system that leaves nothing to be desired, runs very stable and allows easy backups. There is also a large community behind it and helps with questions. The spam filter can be set extremely detailed, so that even phishing attacks are detected.

Not sure what you mean

You could also use a relay so you won’t have to worry about your ip getting blacklisted. Secondly you won’t have to warmup the ip.

Thanks, I'd still go with the more established solutions for now, but it would be interesting to look at

Wow that's a long time :D

Sir How do i Setup Mail server on Windows Server 2019, Well i already configured Hmail server on my dedicated server , its working for Local domain only but i want run over Internet , is it possible so ???

so content wasn‘t how I expacted, but it was quite interesting altough. What did you do with your mailcow-mails, when you changed to MS? I use mailcow on a vserver.

I hope it's a good thing to sometimes do what people don't expect 😁. I have migrated my mails with outlook, so just copied it from the one mailbox to the other.

Oh cool that you're a sub for such a long time :) And yeah I can agree, getting on blacklists is a huge problem with self-hosting!

Thank you so much :)

Danke dir! Mailcow ist super 👍 hab das gerne benutzt

Hmm I'll think about it.

You're welcome 😉

A program called "hollywood"

Thanks!

Yea, great guy making good music ;)

What are you using and how did you setup? And blog, videos?

​@@yourlinuxguy I just rented a cheap VPS at Netcup and installed docker-mailserver + added the necessary DNS records. I initially tried sending the emails from my server but on the long run I would recommend using an SMTP relay for outgoing emails.

Really? I don't think so 😋

@@christianlempa You obviously did.

What do you mean by gave in?

Bruh..😊

Probably he was paid by Microsoft to promote 365 instead of a homelab service. UNSUBSCRIBED

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Hm, I guess that's not what most people want to see but maybe I'm wrong.

Thx ;)

Sounds like you SHOULD be blocked, censored, deplatformed, silenced, etc.

Do a tutorial on YT or even on a web page. Some of us *will pay* for a good Postfix - Dovecot - Thunderbird guide that actually works.

being a spammer isnt a business.

@@gzcwnk what are you talking about?

Well, I think all these points would apply to email marketing as well.

Lol 🤣

I've done some videos about mailserver and dns records already, this was a follow up ;)

There are multiple programs running to make it fancy looking. Tmux is used as terminal multiplexer (with it you can cut your terminal in half and have two terminals) cmatrix as matrix effect Two top programs (htop, gtop, whatever, it's task manager for terminals) Probably some port listeners There's even apt upgrade running here (so it's using debian/ubuntu based linux distro) and other crap

looks like tmux

You can use any DNS provider, you just need to select manual setup in 365 and add some DNS records to verify the domain.

If security is the main concern..

No, taking it offline and assume then it cannot be hacked has nothing to do with security (in my opinion).

I guess that's a common misconception about mail. Your mail is sent across multiple mail gateways and resides always on your end and the recipient/sender. You never OWN it. It's always stored on multiple endpoint where you have no control over the data processing and encryption.

@@christianlempa for example... Office 365 is an exchange server... outlook is the client of the exchange server. exchange holds the remote PST file you of course can move mail from one pst file to another, but still, exchange holds your data on their server... if I were to run my own "exchange" server or "IMAP" server, the remote PST file would be on my server... the recipient manages what they receive on their own servers (so if I sent to them... it may reside on an exchange server or Gmail server, but that is on them) it is also important to note that cross-server SMTP transition IS NEVER ENCRYPTED (NEVER HAS) thus if you send from your O365 to Gmail, communication from exchange to Gmail is free text, unencrypted ... just extra gee-whiz information. email is never considered safe, nor secure, but my server, my data is still the case... Gmail's server, Gmail's data etc... with all this in mind... if govt wants access to ALL my email... they simply need to subpena gmail or Microsoft vs finding all recipients that are gmail or o365... you are never fully free, but make it hard as you can at least... I don't trust proton either (they could get a warrant just the same as Microsoft or gmail) keep in mind, I don't think I am doing anything illegal or cause for govt intrusion... but I prefer to be private just as well. but thanks for the reply (I feel special) oh and for the record, things are trying more and more to move to a centralized internet of few vendors hold the keys and making it harder for small individuals to get into the markets

@@James-li8cm you just gave yourself the explanation why O365 and self-hosted makes not much difference when it comes to email privacy. I don't know if you have watched the entire video but I mentioned this point already: if you want to do secure mail, you need to do end-to-end encryption with something like PGP, otherwise you never know where your mail is going to, where it's stored or processed. Once it leaves your mail server (what is always the case with mail) you're out of control anyway, O365, gmail or self-hosted.

@@christianlempa Of course not. But that is not the case. The fish which doesn't swim too close to the swarm avoids the drag net. In most cases one uses the mail server to store a long history of mails with the entire social graph. We had some spectacular mail leak cases. As a German national I'm not covered by the US constitution and hence any US entity has the right to run queries against my data (and can even be instructed to do so by the US government) That's why some German government structures avoid US servers alltogether (while others use them with pleasure - no clear tendency as of now)

I was running mailcow dockerized, as I mentioned in the video description, if you want to take a look :)

Then Microsoft should have paid me, too 🙈

Think that doesn't make a huge difference where it's hosted, as long as you're fully responsible

@@christianlempa we only connect users as pop3 (minimum 1gb box) with 250 accounts.. what you will suggest? Professional email or vps with cpanel hosting? I am confused

In my opinion, yes

@@christianlempa In my use case, I have a startup company and I need to create a mail server to automate emails without depending on bulk mail services. Just sharing... Thanks for the tutorials.

Well in your case it might actually make sense ;)

@@rakeshpk4991 you can run SMTP through Deno and that won't be an issue

@@softwarelivre2389 Thanks.

This is the soy version I believe, since it's recommending SaaS. Personally I prefer the swarthy deepfake Luke

You just disqualified yourself with the last sentence

@@christianlempa Truth hurts

I wish they had paid me ;)

Gmail successful? For businees mail? For private personal mail? I don't think so. Most folks don't want spam or "coincidental" ads soon after emailing a friend about changing their car.

No one sponsored the video...

Only from the freemail users, or also from the paying customers?

Don't always believe what you're reading in a YT comment ;)

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