Absolutely. It’s the most un-creative design ever. 90s X-Men Cyclops with Deadpools mask. Who-hoo.

I mean... Mattel invited everything from Ninjas and robots to the party... Its been the kitchen sink property from the get go

Purple Nurple Dead Pool.

Very much so,or like,rob leifield, universe ,Wildcat character or some isht.

SMH.... He has no shame.

He's so shameless he might as be well be writing fan fiction on wattpad at this point

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The Masters line had Barbarians, demons from other dimensions, cowboys(Rio Blast), Ninjas, transforming Rock People etc.... Why would a superhero type be out of place?

@@GemJam73 the concept fits well but the anesthetics does not, IMHO.

He definitely reminds me more of an early 90s comic character. He-Man always lives in the early 80s.

He looks like a Cyclops knock off

@@iampoch01 Yep. That's my point. Looks like a Marvel charater.

Not sure why... I didn't like it as a kid, and never liked the toys, had to sit through the cartoon to get to GI Joe and Transformers.

Have you SEEN the Star Wars collectors? Particularly the ones who are against repro/custom/anything not made by the original company? MOTU is probably bad, but they are a motorcycle gang compared to SW collectors...

@@k-dawgbroadcasting5444 even though I like both toylines I don't bother with either community. Collectors prices made me go to gundam models as my hobby.

Not the character being new - the CONFIRMATION OF THE DETAILS within the animated mythology. Let's use our brains for more than pedantry, OK?

@@B17FRascal Your response is pedantic AF.

@@shootermcgavin1208 King Grayskull also came from the original mini-comics

But Keldor is not IN the comic? Its' just a word/name in there. Doesn't really make a "character" having a random name in a mini comic. It's a name, and a word sure. If I come up with "shark-or" as a name, but he doesnt appear for over a decade, well then the character doesnt really exist until he.... exists.. in something?

I believe that mini comic came packaged with Scareglow in the vintage MOTU line

@@mikeyfourbarrel8473 He seems "right about movies", but "diva queen trying to squish other channels out". Sorry, man... ...false-flagging other videos to censor people that shine light on you is WEAK.

I don't know about that, but the director of the 1987 MOTU movie, Gary Goddard, has some things in common with Jared.

But who decided it should be a figure?

@@namelessjedi2242 Scott. I remember him saying that they were already scraping the bottom of the for classic characters. I'm guessing they didn't want to jump into The New Adventures because he knew how weak that series is, and without the nostalgia factor, the platform will quickly lose subscribers.

I will admit it was a funny gag and the nod to it with the figure was funny. But I didn't think it would become lore/cannon. Or even cause such an uproar.

@@myronaustin agreed. To be honest, it was fan service more than anything. As Spector said regarding it, they decided to do it because it was fun.

@@namelessjedi2242 I did, it was me. It was the only MOTU thing I ever saw. That I liked and I said, “ Scott, boyo, if I can’t wrestle Battle of the Planets into this He-Man thing you keeps blathering on about, what can you do with Steve Martin’s character from Little Shop, now there was a movie.” Yup, that’s how the conversation went, still sad he didn’t come with the Banjo I asked for though, that woulda been the shit right there I tell ya.

@Joe Markese And that is exactly what retailers are asking for. They want He-man not Spikor or whomever. Is this the best strategy? Not in my opinion but it doesn't change the fact that it's true. What should Mattel do? Tell their customers to f' off and not fulfill their orders as they're being asked to? Sound strategy.

Scott has said MULTIPLE times on his channel that he doesn’t believe MOTU can work at retail… especially with no attached show…. It’s why he believes origins wouldn’t work. Though he says he hopes it does. Your argument doesn’t stand.

@@michaelcorsiniart Right… Scott has also said that 80% of retail sales need to go to kids for a line to be a success. and that He-Man, as it was in the 80s, doesn’t resonate with modern kids the same way it did with children of my generation. How does any of that prove that he “convinced the suits at Mattel that He-Man would never succeed at retail again” as Michael states in the video citing “some sources” as his evidence. He also states “if He-Man was so popular year after year why wasn’t Mattel overing these toys to retail”. 200x was not “so popular” that it (toy line and cartoon” failed to met expectations and was canceled after a couple of years. Are you really telling me that that had NOTHING to do with Mattel not wanting to put He-Man toys at retail in 2008?

@@AkuMayfair Michael is careful with his words and you need to be more careful listening. He said Scott “had a hand in convincing Mattel that Masters would not work at retail”… meaning he was one of many. He is careful through the video to say things like that… Carefully never making him solely responsible because that WOULD be stupid. He is making the charge that the same corporate attitude that has the action figure industry in the position it is now… ALSO exists in Scott Neitlich. He is ONE of MANY. Michael literally says, "it takes a village!" Additionally, the "sources" that you claim Michael cites... are stories relayed my Neitlich, himself! And he is careful to say that they are suspicious... with the words, "if the stories are to be believed..." Don't build an argument by changing the context and meaning of another man words. It's a waste of time.

@@michaelcorsiniart Okay. I see that I made some errors here. Let me try this again. I said he cited “some sources” when in fact he said “some accounts”. That was my error. The rest of what I quoted was 100% accurate to what the man said but after rewatching the full video again I see that much later he does back track and say that of course Scott was only one person who had a hand in convincing Mattel that MOTU was not viable at retail. Not exactly the same as what was said from the top (around three minutes in) but okay I missed that, my mistake. Oh… and I was only quoting from the early segment of the video, you where only quoting from the latter part of the video…. So seems that we could both be accused of taking the mans words out of context to make our argument. All of that said, the question I’m asking is still unanswered. Why is there no mention of the retail failure of the 200x line just a few years earlier and the effect that it had on the retail future of MOTU? Are we really meant to believe that, in 2008, the still fresh failure of the 200x line had less impact on the brands retail future than the opinion of the so-called ToyGuru (and the others)? Maybe he did help push Mattel off of that cliff, but seems to me that they where already standing at the edge.

Making him a character was pretty cool imo. Same with how they made concept art into new characters like Vikor and Demo-Man. I'm a sucker for that stuff

@@PelinalDidNothingWrong I agree, I loved the concept art.

@@berkajr3685 Being able to hold Demo-Man as a physical figure was brilliant. That art is great and I hope he makes his way into Origins.

@@davidanderson4748 this whole video is filled with things no one should be mad about, mostly. aside from a generic self insert and a lack of distribution/reprints. MOTUC's lore was never the main focus, it was the figures themselves. No clue why it matters so much

Thank you for the kind words!

I’m with you guys on this. It would not take that long to watch or rewatch all the cartoons read a few comic books, then come up with a good cohesive story. This whole series was pure fluff. It felt like he called it in and expected everyone to be like oh yeah that’s the shit. Wow incredible. Instead some people were like that’s pure shit. It was. I’ll end on a good note. The art was incredible.

Definitely, Scott is one of the most egotistical people ever, who thinks just because he was in the toy industry, he’s smarter that everyone else

@@mikeyfourbarrel8473 generally us transformers fans don’t care that much for the Bay movies but that’s because he had no general understanding of what he was working with.

An interesting wrinkle tho, the recent TF Collector's Club (run by Fun Publications / Master collector) had aped the MOTUC subscription model to further bleed the fans in addition to their version of Botcon. This was the era where pumping out so many exclusives per year, rife with QA issues to boot, cheapened the expirience of collecting them. So much overpriced exclusives made them less than special.

I think a big difference is that during the 1980s there were two strong versions of the TF story (the comics and cartoon) that were both around long enough to contribute a lot the mythology and neither really changed to mirror the other's continuity set-up whilst other smaller story material either adapted to one or the other or did its own thing. (In the UK there was also the virtual war declared on the cartoon by the comic letters page, which was answered by a Transformer in character and both Soundwave and Grimlock took issue with their screen portrayals.) By contrast the 1980s Motu cartoon was dominant with no other single source of story material lasting long enough to generate a strong following for an alternative basic narrative and so most other stuff, including the mini comics, quickly tried to conform with it and it was only when the separate toylines and properties for She-Ra and the Horde came along that it was no longer possible for Motu only material to follow the cartoon.

@@UC1180_ oh yeah, while my kid self loved the Michael bay movies, now i hate them

The bayverse brought me in, o expanded my knowledge with G1 , had animated as my first cartoon, became a teen with prime, rewatched the unicron trilogy, watched beast wars, and kept up with the comics. The multiverse of Transformers works. However that doesn’t matter to Michael because he considers devoted transformers fans to be fools and irrelevant.

I take it to be more meaning he was part of new generation of indy film makes that broke out in the early 90s, i mean thats his background before going into other media.

@@JONNYSORENSEN_AU Or could be that he's the new generation of film hack since he used to be a pretty hardcore nerd before selling out to dem Hollywood bux.

Smith made his career shitting on Fandoms Well its just a matter of time before twitter sees his movies and cancel him

@@Maria_Erias perhaps ask RB then? I prefer facts fo speculation

@@somethingclever8916 who was he shitting on in the early 90? 🤔

It was all over the place from the beginning because He-Man was supposed to be Conan. Mattel was readying to support a new set of movies in the Conan mythos before realizing it was going to be rated R and the film studio didn't have enough money to produce the fantastical world they had envisioned. Thus, He-Man was born and then the 2 Conan movies were more "grounded", so to speak.

@@sbojan83 "It was all over the place from the beginning because He-Man was supposed to be Conan." No it was NOT. There's documentation to prove that. That whole thing is a MYTH. Knuckle: "Right off the bat the Filmation series contradicted the comics the figures came with." The first four comics were very crude. Then DC comics revised the whole thing, a revision which formed the basis for the Filmation series. So no, it's not really all over the place. It's the actual evolution of the property.

I only liked the first few mini comics. The show was a thing, but those comics were crazy.

Because the comic and cartoon were ideas the creator pulled out of his rectum. Watch toys that made is

Yeah I think not enough people understand just how different the landscape was in 2009. Mattel in general had no faith in MOTU.

You never had an issue with Scott's cannon? I hope not. But we're talking canon here, not genitals. Go talk about his cannon on the appropriate slashboards.

I subscribed but not every year. Some years were crap offerings that, honestly, did not justify having to put up with Digital River. Including Neitlich's vanity Spector project. The horrible job that Digital River did pretty much killed half of the value proposition of Mattycollector.

Yet you can't say that palace guard face or the Mighty Specter were needed things. Well, all my guards look pristine, just the one with the Neitlich face has the most dinged up armor.

Man! They dropped the ball on Stinkor. It's a good fig, but it could've been so much better. The rationale behind the arms depicting a wind effect was weak.

ehh i kinda think seasons 1&2 of TF were pretty slipshod. doesnt mean i dont love 'em still though. :-)

Indeed I just rewatched it and shame it stopped I would have liked to see a third season with hordak

"He licks his own Anus and likes the smell!" LOL. I had to pause the video with these two lines

Facts

@@Theopheus That whole thing was in response to the last original MOTU Wave.... the HE-Man property was "HAWT" and needed more merchandise.... This made Mattel overproduce secondary characters which didn't sell.... Apparently the public wanted He-Man cause there was a new wave of kids getting into the cartoon.... This is what they said int those Netflix Documentaries....

Show got cancelled because of slow toy sales even though I loved it.

Mattel bought the license for Ghostbusters because there was supposed to be a new movie around 2010, but Bill Murray blocked it because of his feud with Harold Ramis. Mattel would have put it in stores if GB3 came out back then. But no movie, no retail. Hasbro has since made toys because there have been two new movies.

The attempt to combine all of MOTU was ambitious and could've worked! If it'd been handled better

Especially since there's new meme, _"I now identify as Michael Jackson and my pronouns are, 'HE-Hee!'"_

Total missed opportunity that they didn't have an evil counterpart to the sword of 🎵He-hee🎵. The sword of 🎵 SHA-MONE🎵

Why is it bad though? If He is the word for power in that world all they did was just make the name “world correct” ( I can’t think of a way to describe it).

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He wants to do a show with Michael

Personally, I think a 3rd party channel such as Bobby Skullface or Michael Mercy should host such an event.

@@hq9344 I was unaware of this. Thank you for the info. I nominate Dan from Toy Galaxy as a potential moderator/Host

@@hq9344 thank you for directing me towards another toy channel. I appreciate that. Have you checked out Bobby Skullface? If not, I highly recommend his channel. It is very Transformers centric. He offers a very distinct viewpoint and you can tell he truly has a real love for toys.

@@hq9344 i dont think mercys a scumbag. tony had a right to be mad at him but thats between them and apparently mercy gave tony his money back that he put into the unicron.

What’s worse is that hasbro may be doing something similar with transformers, trying to merge every continuity into one storyline.

@@panzerkorps2122 Didn't they tryed that once with Aligned continutie?

@@dedalionarts6077 I mean attach all continuities into one story in a modified way through a multiverse like said in the video. I believe it’s called transformers legacy

I see that Neitlich has already offered to speak to Micheal on the Retroblasting channel. Curious to see if the invitation is accepted.

@Joe Markese Talk face to face? man to man? collector to collector?

@@gregoryneill1234 they did it on the Geek. Dad. Life channel.

Indeed.

By the way, my advice is 3D modeling, 3D scanning, 3D printing, and no pity whatsoever for the corpo-cunts that have wrecked the industry. Take it all away from them. The only thing they have to sell is the concept of "official" and when they can't enforce that, they can't monetize it. So strip it away from Scot Dicklick and the rest of the rancid slime that have trainwrecked this hobby. Build your own.

It is a good show. To me the most interesting MOTU stories were the mini comics before Filmation got involved. When I first saw the Filmation show I thought that my T.V. was personally punking me. I've grown to appreciate it for what it is but 2000X is still cool.

Brian Flynn openly lied to fans at Power-Con in 2019 and said his price hikes were because tariffs were going to be placed on toys by the federal government and said that those price hikes were already "baked in" to Super 7's prices. When the entire category of Chinese tariffs that included toys was negotiated away that Fall, he refused to answer fans' questions about why those "baked in" price hikes never went away and, instead, only went up more. That, along with serious quality control issues, is why fans were "hostile" to Brian, as you say. I have no doubt you are a person who bought "the Mighty Spector" for this nearly complete collection.

@serick73 I believe it was 100% lightning in a bottle. I absolutely adore my Classics collection! It is a sight to behold. The Classics line was a multitude of factors that converged that will likely never ever be able to be reproduced again in the future. The way it spanned all the MOTU eras and weaved them all together into one timeline, POP figures, New Adventure Figures, Powers of Grayskull Figures, Filmation Figures, 200x Figures, Prototype figures, Castle Grayskull, Snake Mountain, all the vehicles, the incredible sculpting from the Four Horsemen, the cool chase figures, the cool new characters in figure form and in the mini-comics (which sadly never became figures ie.e Lady Slither, Bandwith, Hans Hammerholder, The Great Black Wizard, Skeleteen, etc...) The sheer amount of figures in the line is astounding and we got characters I, not in a million years, would have ever dreamed of getting in figure form. The aesthetic and detail the Horsemen put into the overall 'Classics' style and the actual sculpts make the new Masterverse figures look awful in comparison (that new Viking He-Man is awful - Vikor was inspired by the prototype - the new Viking He-Man LOOKS like a prototype). It was a GREAT time to collect figures. I loved waiting for the figures to arrive each month, loved Pixel-Dan's reviews and eagerly awaited the reveals that happened at each of the toy shows (and the ridiculous fan-drama that ensued with each and every reveal - to be honest, it was a bit entertaining watching the MASS drama and arguments on He-Man.org). SURE the line had it's bumps and wasn't 100% perfect - but it was nearly perfect. As a kid from the 80's who collected the original toys I would dream as a kid of a Catra figure, Lizard Man figure, an Uncle Montork figure, a PROPER She-Ra figure that wasn't a doll. Classics was some weird materialization of those figure wishes as a kid - quite literally the Classics line was a LOVE LETTER to fans like me in aesthetic, detail and character selection. I never bought multiple subs - just one and I cherish them all. It is really quite astounding when I go through my collection because there is just SO MUCH THERE. It also led to the Thundercats figures and Ultimately to the Ultimates from Super7 (also sculpted by the Horsemen). The Thundercats and TMNT figures are really great. So you sir can have your sour memories and opinions. I for one love what they did with that entire series of figures. It WAS and IS incredible.

I'd love to hear them!

Ah we remember the days...

yes please 'cause i even remember you being booted from RGD podcast for something you said on the classics line

yes please

Sounds interesting, do tell.

The character of Spector isn't as OP as people have made him out to be. Scott went out of his way to explain this to people and try to have that reflected in the figure. Around his thigh is a holster with these green test tube looking widgets. Those are like fuel rods that power either his pistol or his time travel device. He has a limited number of them and when they're gone, they're gone. So he literally would have a set number of trips he can go on, and also would have to decide between "fight or flight" as he can't use up all those rods on combat, or else how the hell would he get back home? It's actually an intriguing part of the character and always appreciated that aspect of him.

Toys like comics and video games are niche cultures that have gone mainstream. But they're run by corporations that actively prey on their customers. Selling the cheapest product for the highest prices.

I've been saying the same thing for years. Sure,almost anything can fit into MOTU but Spector feels way too "Oc. Do not steal!"

i kinda think mighty spector reminds me of firefly from g.i. joe.

Spector looks like Deadpool and Domino fused. I'm not the only one seeing it, right?

Fanfiction made professional! Well put. That's exactly what it feels like sometimes.

@@williamthompson5504 That does ring true. He seems to just want to voice his opinion as fact then throw insults to look big. I don't think he'd actually sit down and have a mature and polite debate with someone.

@@williamthompson5504 it is tonight apparently

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Exactly i just like the classics toys, i dont care about the Story

As both a MotU and Robot Chicken fan, I loved that box set. Kinda bummed I missed the boat on securing it tho

Agreed.

Its lack of taking risks and hijackings others work. Reboots are nothing to oraise

Reboots/remakes/“re-imaginings” are usually hot garbage.

Reboot Culture is nothing more than artistic bankruptcy.

@@somethingclever8916 I’m not praising them. Just presenting applying the old adage “Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.” Retro’s explaination, frankly, sounds paranoid in the extreme.

What utopia did you live In? I mean we have documentation (messageboards, live journal) of that time of just how difficult it was to find anything of value at retail. What toy lines did you buy that you could always find? Hyper curious about this one.

@@oansun the one when malls and toys r us still existed. Online sales ebay and scalpers turned it into horse breeding basically. Only the elite few get what they want. Dropping 1800 bucks on static statues. None of these ppl have real problems.

Now? There is Covid, so going to a toy store isn’t completely safe for me. So I unfortunately can’t relate.

It was easier when dedicated toy stores like TRU, Child World, and Kaybee Toys (there in the US) existed. We CANNOT expect the same level of experience with big box retailers. The loss of TRU is quite damaging to the toy industry as a whole. Among other things, it gave big box retailers more power on toy manufacturers. We're talking about companies fighting over a very, VERY limited aisle (and storage) space.

@@oansun Like everyone pointed out, Toys'r'us, kaybee toys and other places were around. And I live in Puerto Rico, which is tecnically a 3rd world country. But, yeah, the loss of dedicated toy stores really affected collectors, I forgot about that detail.

Corporate shilling is silly. Classics had alot of great figures but the business model Scott pushed has alot to do with why the toy industry is what it is today

I agree with you, i don't think motu classics will survive that long if it was released at retail. with over 200 figures, including vehicles and playsets.

Classics figures were great Some of the backstories were cool,but the canon was kinda meh...

u gotta be kidding u must be a reseller or had luck or you are TG in disguise 'cause between DR and QC issues with the figurines i had to stop buying this figures altogether

Flounder!!!

It was a death threat to the fans. A poison pen letter.

I liked it thought it was better then the 1980's filmation cartoon I watched as a kid. I had no issue with it.

@@monashsq4001 I agree. It was a quality story, well animated, acted, and told. But it was NOT a love letter to the fans.

200x was great. No perfect, but great.

@@FASAfan It's a shame it ended so soon. Right when it was getting really good too.

200x was great imo

It's what got into liking He-Man again. I never liked the filmation cartoon as a kid. It was just too silly for me. The 200x show was something the entire family can enjoy at all ages.

I'm sure Egg Shells Michael could make a 40 minute rant on how you're wrong for liking the 200x series and that in liking it you aren't a real fan.

It still is

@@megasystem8473 No now it is all about beefs in the toy community (which 99.9% of us could care less about), modern toy companies’ ineptitude, etc. I don’t mind the occasional off the cuff rant but this clearly took a lot of time and effort to create and edit. Would’ve loved to see something of this quality about a vintage toy line.

He's neither a corporate shill nor a cog in any machine. He was drummed out of the industry for being zero worth. Now he's a bitter industry reject that makes bitter, dejected KZfaq videos.

@@RockandrollNegro he left him a tell for a better job, what the hell are you talking about

@@MassHystarix wrong.

@blaccap some of the best stories from Marvel are based on the multiverse. Shit look at how popular Spider-Girl and Spider-Gwen became. Not to mention the Exiles was a great series when it first started. Then there's Into the Spider-verse a movie that was financially and critically successful. And that's just a couple examples just from Marvel

@@letronkelly4181 I doubt it. I see alot of differing opinions expressed. I definitely agree with him about "toy guru".

@@roseamelia9147 never ended up watching much of that, but yeah it was a cool concept

Yeah, the 2003 TMNT was definitely the best animated version. Peter Laird (one of the TMNT co-creators) actually worked on that one and it was more faithful to the original comics while not being TOO violent for kids. Toward the end of the series there was some executive meddling that made the show worse (Fast Forward, Back to the Sewer). I agree with Michael that properties are rebooted too often, though.

The Keldor thing is crap. Skeletor is not Randor's brother. Tired of having all these shocking twist added in.

@@samaonbradford3810 I agree. That sort of thing makes the world seem smaller. It makes so much more sense for your arch nemesis to be some random bloke.

Learn to read the mini comics! Also they were going to add that into the Filmation one but it was cancelled.. The comic is called "Search for Keldor" so are you going to argue with the creators of He-Man? It's like me not wanting Luke to be Vader's son because it was a "twist" uhh most shows like these have twists in them.

Same here, I was 9 when the 2002 show came out, I loved it, then later on I discovered the 80s Filmation show, and fell in love. Reboots don't always have to be a bad thing. The multiverse excuse is contrived and lazy but their existence doesn't negate the classics.

IT'S A TRAP!