Hot Rod a Hohner Episode 12

Hot Rod a Hohner Episode 12 - Treble Tuning

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5 жыл бұрын

This video contains the basics of tuning the treble end of a Hohner Pokerwork.
Tune chart here
drive.google.com/file/d/1dhVH...
Other videos here sites.google.com/view/hohnerh...

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@richardhukins1703 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for passing on your knowledge,

@cintulator2 4 жыл бұрын

It's always great when a true expert shares his knowledge. In the old times many skills were closely guarded secrets.

@marcialbenavidez267 3 жыл бұрын

This is VERY VALUABLE information, thank you soo much!

@Tcabezon 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so so so much for you kind videos

@InArcadiaSum 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. I've found that a very strong miniature rare-earth magnet, glued on to a stick as a handle, is useful to lift the reed and make a gap, before slipping the brass/bronze reed lifter under to hold it.

@louroanulino4512 2 жыл бұрын

@paulcarey3745 4 жыл бұрын

15:17 Lol! Thanks a million, very helpful video!

@Izakokomarixyz 4 жыл бұрын

Very good video!

@bramblecino 2 жыл бұрын

Keep the videos coming goood stuff

@jurizemljansk9080 3 жыл бұрын

Классный аппарат для настройки.Обязательно сделаю себе такой.Спасибо за идею.

@MelodeonTunes 3 жыл бұрын

Spasibo

@roninhodoacordeon9503 2 жыл бұрын

Estou aprendendo muito com seus videos amigo top

@linedrybreeze 2 жыл бұрын

“massive amount of daylight” hahaha, love it

@enricoperrine9943 Жыл бұрын

Im very interesting to follow your work im in mauritius

@vanguardianortena963 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a question what running do you recommend on a gabbanelli three register box

@vanguardianortena963 4 жыл бұрын

The other advantage you kill a piano accordion. You are the best had me laughing

@theaccordiondude6416 3 жыл бұрын

but , but why? lol

@linusorri 3 жыл бұрын

What a great tutorial

@MelodeonTunes 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@1234588001 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video would you know the tuning of a paolo soprani thanks.

@staceymcmullen714 4 жыл бұрын

I am so glad this video exists. Just got my hands on two hold piano accordions and was struggling with understanding the process for tuning but this has really made it simple. Great video. I was wondering, do you have any tip for repairing bellows, whether it is possible to apply some sort of adhesive or filler to seal old leathers in the corners of each bellow. For air gaps or small pin holes. Also is the tape merely decorative or does this also tighten up the bellows air pressure? Really appreciate this video and the whole series and its been keeping me occupied during this difficult time.

@MelodeonTunes 4 жыл бұрын

This prompt may well get me to finish the Bellows Repair video that I have been going to do for months

@staceymcmullen714 4 жыл бұрын

That would be tremendously helpful, if you have any tips in the meantime i would really appreciate, love these videos and your little jokes every now and then!. Also would you have any recommendations for the cent differences to acheive a sound similar to this recording....kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qK12oaadrZapaWg.html Im a realtively young folk musician from nottingham and ive got the accordions to beef up my songs bassically....

@energeticvids 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Lester. I don't have a method of air push/pull. Do you think a Air Mattress Pump Inflator Deflator has enough pressure ? Or do I need to look for an Air Table ?

@MelodeonTunes 4 жыл бұрын

Without seeing/playing with the device it is hard to tell. Really best to source an old piano accordion cheap off ebay and make a tuning table

@joeysanchez5926 3 жыл бұрын

I use an air matress pump but with a dimmer switch to control air speed

@joeysanchez5926 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fJmRqrqk2snbkoE.html

@franklin1160 Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Please can you tell me where can i buy the tunning table? Thanks

@nestorgiraldo9066 4 жыл бұрын

Hello, thank you for your video. What tuner do you have in your phone? Regards Nestor

@MelodeonTunes 4 жыл бұрын

I use Dirks Tuner on my PC and iStroboSoft on the phone

@nestorgiraldo9066 4 жыл бұрын

@@MelodeonTunes I just bought the phone tuner. I am quite interested in the Dirks tuner por pc. I leave you my whatsApp number +447450805756, maybe. You can inform me more. Thank you and Regards Néstor

@ricardocortezsr2651 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video ! i could not see on your tuner HZ. DO YOU TUNE AT 442 HZ OR 443 HZ OR OTHER ?

@MelodeonTunes 4 жыл бұрын

A 440 standard concert pitch

@edwardatkin5386 4 жыл бұрын

Just wondering were you find the tuning chart

@adrianpolley9419 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lester, would you advise taking the reeds out for cleaning and tuning one at a time or replace them all in the block and then tune ? I've made my own bellows set up from a small u/s accordion from e bay for £9 ! Bargain.

@MelodeonTunes 4 жыл бұрын

I would remove then all at the same time as it makes cleaning the old wax off the block very much easier

@adrianpolley9419 4 жыл бұрын

@@MelodeonTunes Thanks for the reply but I meant should I put them all back in the block before tuning or try and tune them one at a time out of the block ? Thanks.

@MelodeonTunes 4 жыл бұрын

It is important that you tune them on the blocks as that is the environment in which they will be played. Tuning off the block will get the reed into the ballpark but when they are waxing in place on the block the tuning may/will change.

@adrianpolley9419 4 жыл бұрын

@@MelodeonTunes Thanks Lester. My first attempt at repairing so may be some time before I get it done, but I'll try and let you know how I get on. It's an 80 year old stradella accordion that I am working on. I have replaced all the felts, nightmare on the (72) bass side , so many rods , levers and springs etc ! lol

@MelodeonTunes 4 жыл бұрын

@@adrianpolley9419 Good luck

@boechristensen1806 3 жыл бұрын

Haha, "Never tune drunk"! :D

@zimmie99 2 жыл бұрын

Superb and fascinating video. Thank you. Two questions. 1. I don’t understand the physics. Why does scratching produce change in one direction whilst scraping the tip does the opposite? 2. Do you ever run out of reed to scrape or scratch away?

@MelodeonTunes 2 жыл бұрын

Filing the tip reduces the mass at the tip and thus increases the frequency of occilation, scraping the other end reduces the mass at fixed end for the opposite effect. Yes you can run out of metal, if you file the tip too much the end becomes too flexible and the pitch will vary.

@zimmie99 2 жыл бұрын

@@MelodeonTunes Thanks. Very informative. As always. Your videos are a brilliant resource which will no doubt be useful to box enthusiasts in 2060 when we are dead and gone.

@94ferraz 2 жыл бұрын

Existe a book help to tuning accrodion?

@Bluegamebird 3 жыл бұрын

Lester, I understand the excellent explanation on the mechanics of the tuning process, but need a further explanation in terms of how to utilize your tuning chart to tune the wet or “musette” reeds in my diatonic accordion after tuning the straight reeds. I don’t understand how to create the deviation of cents or beats based on the number values supplied by the chart, as they are unlabeled, except for ‘beatings’ and I cannot surmise with any certainty whether the chart represents the difference in reeds measured in beats per minute or cents or hertz. Thank you, in advance.

@Bluegamebird 3 жыл бұрын

For further clarification, I desire to use the Hohner set of values.

@MelodeonTunes 3 жыл бұрын

@@Bluegamebird The chart shows the offset for each reed so, for example, D4 Hohner shows 20 cents, I would therefore tune one reed to pitch and the tremolo reed to pitch + 20 cents, and so on for each pitch and its offset. The amount of cents offset decreases as the pitch rises to maintain a consistent beat frequency across the box. Hope this helps

@Bluegamebird 3 жыл бұрын

@@MelodeonTunes Perfect explanation, Thank You!

@petercane6376 Жыл бұрын

Lester. How do we know the beat rates for each note on say a Hohner pokerwork with two reeds per note? Is this charted in that Dirk tuner on your pc? What mini tuner are you using? Is it a Petersen? Which would you advise to get? Thank you for sharing. I am going to have a go as this is just so interesting. Peter

@MelodeonTunes Жыл бұрын

I have derived some beating lists for various wetness of tuning from Hohner (wet) to Castagnari (dry) link below. The phone tuner I use is the Peterson StroboSoft. drive.google.com/file/d/1FrKxs7d_-VcsTpc8qaYLh6qNangOamvc/view?usp=share_link

@roninhodoacordeon9503 2 жыл бұрын

Olá gostaria que tivesse como vc fazer um vídeo falando da mesa de afinaçao como construir uma parabens pelo trabalho 🖒

@fabiosatoalmeida8689 Жыл бұрын

Já resolveu o problema da mesa?

@Izakokomarixyz 4 жыл бұрын

You don’t use the file for lowering pitch?

@MelodeonTunes 4 жыл бұрын

No I use a reed scratcher

@Izakokomarixyz 4 жыл бұрын

Lester Bailey - Is it bad to use a file to lower the pitch? Also, what motion should be made when filing reeds?

@MelodeonTunes 4 жыл бұрын

@@Izakokomarixyz I have never tried using a file to flatten reeds so can't comment on that. When filing reeds I always try to move the file perpendicular to the reed rather than across the reed.

@aoaltan 4 жыл бұрын

Could you please share " how we can set the papers ?"... Can i iron the papers on the reeds ? or What we are going to use for glue ?

@zekidemircioglu 3 жыл бұрын

Tune chart link is broken. If you dont mind, can you upload it again?

@MelodeonTunes 3 жыл бұрын

Sorted :)

@zekidemircioglu 3 жыл бұрын

@@MelodeonTunes oh thank you. you're so fast :) Actually i thought "weltmeister" was in this tune chart too :)

@MelodeonTunes 3 жыл бұрын

@@zekidemircioglu Weltmeister's are tuned to the same as Hohner

@zekidemircioglu 3 жыл бұрын

@@MelodeonTunes We are very lucky to be able to learn this valuable information from a master like you. thank you for all of the videos you shares with us. Thank you also for your kindness.

@valentinochoabonaparte2811 3 жыл бұрын

What's the name of the application?

@MelodeonTunes 3 жыл бұрын

Peterson iStrobosoft www.petersontuners.com/products/istrobosoft/

@RoyalDelux 2 жыл бұрын

15:12 win win situation, really 21:36

@sarbajitghosh5244 2 жыл бұрын

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