Daemon never stands for anyone, in the first episode he stayed seated when Viserys enteres the room

@@tumeloseleke5307 Which is why he should've been the heir

@@ThaBootyBandit thats litteraly why he should not be the heir. Disrespectfull towards everyone

@@s3npai486 and Rhaneyra? She is the same as Daemon, just milder & more dependent

Oh I didn’t see that!!!

This war will have no winner, only little boys who are lost in the night with no one around to guide them.

It was a power move. I wonder if her and cole will hook up lmao

It was soooo good

@@senister14 aegon the broken

@@jmb10v and his brother.

Only one death? This was dull by Dothraki standards.

Rhaegar's wedding is the winner for sure. it caused him the extinction for his entire clan.

Both GoT and HotD make weddings and pregnancies seem horrible but there were a lot of weddings in the book universe and basically also the shows that did not end in tragedy but they aren't shown on screen because who wants to see a boring old wedding where nothing bad or dramatic happens

@@AWSVids I came here to write this.

​@@greenforce68 Even Rhaegar's birth was a tragedy for his family

viserys scratching his cheek out of confusion was making it funnier . he was like “why is he here? uhm okay, anyway...”

@@raemontargaryen3005 i didn't notice that 😂 paddy is smart to add those tiny details for viserys! viserys's reactions to other people's nonsense is one of my favourite things this season

@@cheddar9577 his acting is so above and beyond. effortless! i laughed too when he was stabbing his chicken while trying to keep an eye on his brother with his daughter, and alicent was looking at him at wtf

Stress eating! So apt. Come here you wretched chicken 🐔. I thought it was so funny too!

i hope at least they ll explain what happened between rhaenyra and daemon later in the show (like little flashbacks or something)

@@blackwolf179 No flashbacks, this story is linear.

@@blackwolf179 well u can make some detecitve work and think on what happened before episode 5. Something similar happened here again. Aslo read some forums when other try to put their input on the thing that have happened til now. It gives you better insight and understanding what was or might have been going inside their head. Daemon could be for example

@@knightnxk2906 any links to some forums to read??

Motherfucker lived up to his name. 😂 When Lyonel gave him the nod- That was when the party began.

No

No

It would’ve been so cool if he just started throwing people😂

ikr 😂

I prefer the soiled wedding, different era, different naming scheme, but it is not up to me.

Also had the Gray Wedding between Sansa and Ramsay.

Should be the white wedding. Lol raeynara and Cristin Cole. Both wore white

And at two of those weddings, a Joffrey died. hahahaahahahaahahah

I wanted (and expected) more deaths.

Lmao 😂

say uncle. say uncle

Because they are used to keeping it in the family. In any meaning you want :)

I am in love with your statement🥰

I don't think she really likes him. He's more of a rebound and fun for her imo and he's caught feelings big time

@@wain9026 Oh, she likes him. She liked him from day 1, when she chose him among all the others. And she started liking him even more, when he saved her from the boar. Then in the years we don't see I'm sure she was drawn to him, but she never acted on it, cause that's what she believed was the right thing, that's how she (and women like her) was raised to be/act. Sooo when Daemon told her that you can actually take control over your own life and sexuality (and get pleasure from that), and then left her waiting (for more from him)... Criston Cole was right there for the taking, so she decided to finally act on her crush on him. Yeah, it was purely physical for her, cause she was, is and always will be in love with Daemon... but for Cole it appears to have been more than mere sexual attraction.

@@Charsy8 Nah. She called for him cause he was there. She doesn't like him like that, she fucked him thinking of daemon

@@Charsy8 she only likes Daemon.. else she is not much intersted in sex.

The night has not even started until the first assasination attempt lol

Lady whistledown would love This😂😂

It is known.

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

hes 16 yrs older than her... he always goes for the young ones

@@babyyoda3460 i thinnk being her uncle is more shocking than the age gap

I don't get how she feels betrayed? Like she really committed a betrayal to rheanera by sneaking and getting close to her father to positioned herself in power. Rheneara didn't owe alicant an explanation to who she was fucking

I agree, they have. Starting with their dragons.

All of that was Maegor's fault lol.

Duh

I agree. I also noticed that the grand maester refuses to try any other treatment suggested by the 'assistant' maester. He only uses slugs. I'm sure that the maesters are actively working with the hightowers in oldtown to bring about the end of the dragons and their riders.

Cringe af

I feel Joffrey escalated that by being cocky and Christon is a disappointment! Sworn protector and he caved without even getting all the information about what he was being asked. He wouldn’t have had to lie because he wasn’t even in Alicent’s equation. I’m so annoyed with him lol. Poor Laenor grief stricken and having to get married his man’s blood still pooled on the floor…

@@dianedavid3052 patience my ass My guy didnt bother to explain either He felt he was threatened lmao

@@dianedavid3052 LMFAO CHRISTON IS EXACTLY LIKE JON SNOW... GULLIBLE WITH THE OATHS AND SHIT... AND STUFF ABOUT LOVE BLAH BLAH BLAH

@@dianedavid3052 Why did a marriage have to take part at the end, of course Rhaenyra isn’t meant for Laenor Velaryon? I’m guessing now Daemon will father her children.

Killing Joffrey is just a wedding Tradition for Westerosi's at this point why not?

Doesnt happen in the books so im getting GOT season 8 vibes from this episode, they changed so much and for the worse

Hope the third Joffrey doesn't die at a wedding 😅

@@Nnemicvids i think you're confused and wrong because plenty of other people were talking about the book, and it unfolds just as that.

@@Nnemicvids Yes it does. Just a few days later at a wedding tournament.

Well, she did broke her trust first by keeping secret that she's seeing the king after Aemma's death (even if not intimately) that lead to her being chosen as wife. So yeah, both played the game of thrones and made their moves now.

By what right should she be mad at Rhaenyra?? She did the betrayal first then accused Rhaenyra of screwing Daemon, Rhaenyra answered that they didn't "DO IT". Why would Rhaenyra confess about Criston?.Alicent herself knows it was her father's fault for getting fired during his quest to make AEGON heir. She has no right to be mad.

@@balerion77 Alicent never betrayed Rhaenyra in my eyes. She never wanted any of this, she was basically pushed into this by her father. Sure, she could have told Rhaenyra about her talks with the king, but Viserys probally told her to keep all of that a secret for now. Rhaenyra on the other side oppenly lied to Alicent. About Daemon, because he DID touch her, and about the fact that she was no longer a virgin. And she swore on her mothers name!

@@nicolasritzke1042 Daemon didn't "touch" the part of Rhaenyra that Alicent and Otto were talking about. She told the truth, at least in the context of that conversation. If you're going to take every word literally, then Alicent could also be called a hypocrite for "kissing" her father.

@@Lionspel she didn’t rhaenyra began to conflict by lying to her about her maidenhood

He did a good job portraying Criston's desperation to leave everything behind.

​@@moonrock720t

I wasn’t surprised he was seated😂

Same. I hope they find a way to do flashbacks with her.

@@my_quiet_riot flashbacks is just lazy writing. I feel like if they never planned it (like in the books) doing it now is only fan service and might make things awkward. Sometimes, you just have to let things be bruh. No one asked for a Ned Stark flashback........

You should watch Upright if you like her.

@@queenb2450 a lot of people asked for a Ned/tower of joy flashback. What are you talking about.

@@Marth66666 But that was a younger Ned Stark and not the one we got to know in Season 1

Either he is trying to kill him or he is too arrogant and stuck in his ways to try something else.

Glad someone else picked up on this. Maesters are trained in the Citadel which is in Oldtown, where the Hightowers are Lords. Not unreasonable for Hobert/Otto (with baby Aegon’s interests in mind - aka. someone they can control) to conspire to end Vicerys, along with all the magical dragon bs the Targs bring. I smell a rat…. called faith of the seven.

Also at the wedding Mellos was sat next to the Hightower lord... I didn't want to believe in this particular theory but at this point it's pretty clear it's true. The gray rats are up to something with the Hightowers, and that must be true for the future events of the books, just as Lady Barbrey Dustin said...

We see that Viserys is still alive in the next episode, so maybe the little Hightower/Maester plot has been revealed?

His accolyte is named Orwyle. I don't think it's a coincidence, there is a Grand Maester with that name, maybe they're setting him up for the future...

Reed the book....reed the book...is a villlian....like others TARGARYEN...

@@juanpablonicolasgiancola4042 The only villainy here is your English

Reed the book....reed the book...is a villlian....like others TARGARYEN...

Reed the book....reed the book...is a villlian....like others TARGARYEN...

Howland the book....Meera the book...Jojen the book...is a villlian....like others TARGARYEN...

tottaly agree

Doesnt happen in the books so im getting GOT season 8 vibes from this episode, they changed so much and for the worse

@@Nnemicvids well at least D&D ain’t the directors cause they can’t right for crap at least with these new directors we have some faith

@@Nnemicvids Criston did kill Joffrey in the books.

@@Nnemicvids Dude, he kills Joffrey Lonmouth in a tourney in the book. They made a good adaptation choice that was efficient.

Doesnt happen in the books so im getting GOT season 8 vibes from this episode, they changed so much and for the worse

@@Nnemicvids Are you legally blind btw?

@@Nnemicvids Are you going to elaborate or just spam under every comment?

@@Nnemicvids Oh shut UP.

His voice was breaking during the vows. I got super sad for him.

Wailing like a widow next to his lovers corpse; cries echoing in the hallways. Surely, others will catch on there was more between those two than friendship?

@@sarakilburn2711 I think they already knew see how fast they got tf out when he crawled to his body. They were definitely like “time to go”

@@sarakilburn2711 It is known.

He doesnt kill his wife in the books, hes not even there. He receives the news from a raven. Killing his wife makes about as much sense as season 8 of GOT

@@Nnemicvids No need to defend Daemon he is more then capable doing it himself 😁 They decided to make him less villainous in the last few episodes, they compensated a bit with this

@@Nnemicvids Fire and Blood is written by a maester of the citadel, so the information you read in the book doesn't have to be 100% accurate. A measter cannot know If Deamon killed his wife or if he was really not in the Vale. He writes down the information he is given to.

@@pilzbier5271 he was in the stepstones,also daemon is always acused of being suspect of a crime, that may be he killed laenor ,Harwin,they said he loved laena and then that no may be it was just for power,the same with nettles,Rhaenyra,his death,but with Rhea was the only time they didn't acuse him of being suspect and they decided the contrary in the show.

@@dreamslove1184 Well he is a little rat so obviously he'll be accused

But I don't think Daemon would do anything harm rhaenyra, I think despite his ambition deep down he really cares for rhaenyra.

her real love intrest

that was an interesting moment. I'm pretty sure she was calling his bluff saying that, not expecting him to actually do it, but the way she says it was almost flirty, as if she was daring him to do it for real too

@@MrLTiger i feel like that was what she wanted him to do, but didn't believe he would

There is a difference, I think. Criston wanted her to leave everything including the throne. Leaving with Daemon would not require that.

@@sandramathew6492 absolutely

is he doing that all by himself, or is lyonnel running the show all behind the scenes while giving out excellent advice that he knows the king won't follow, anyway lol

Who's Larys?

@@hellokittybg93 the guy with the crooked foot

@@hellokittybg93 The clubfoot. The man with the malformed leg who talks to Alicent near the weirwood tree.

@@kateris1976 was he a schemer in the book?

What do you think wasn't as clear on the episode and they explained further here? I haven't read the books and I use these to know a bit more about their reasoning behind most scenes but I don't think they explain that much that isn't clear on the actual episode, just a few minor things

subtle??

@@itsalejandroe I just like hearing the people who work on the show explain their reasoning for the things they chose to do, it's pretty cool knowing Otto's actor say what he meant to say to his daughter even tho he couldn't

This doesnt happen in the books so im getting GOT season 8 vibes from this episode, they changed so much and for the worse

@@Nnemicvids sorry mate but if you are rly a book nerd you should have hated got from season 2 so dont come here with these bullshits about a history book and not an actual pov book

It was so good I was rewinding it again and again not to miss a single dialogue.

The straw is going to be a eye 😂😂

@@KingKing-cz6xh haha and that is was my friend!😆

This small dialogue about the color green, says no less than Alicent has declared war to Rhaenyra.

@@KingKing-cz6xh nice man 👌😂

This is where the war begins

Alicent made Rhaenyra an ememy frst, though inadvertently, because of her choices and words.

I think when Cole asked the question he never expected her to say yes. But what he wanted to see is her to stop, contemplate on it, be insecure about her answer. Because that would signal to him that the feelings she used to coerce him to fuck her were important to her. But in the end she decided to patronize him and mansplain the situation to him. That was what set him off.

This is all on Criston. He chose to bed her, and then he chose to be weak and toxic and disloyal as fuck and snitch on her. Man comes into this world and didn’t seem to understand the reality of things and then gets pissy because he’s rejected? There could have been none because Criston could have just been a real man about it and keep his mouth shut and understand the reality of things. And Alicent should have been cognizant of how her vile father uses her for his own ends and is putting her against her friend.

This is Alicents fault for sleeping with and bedding Viserys, and betraying Rhaenyra

😂😂

Exactly opposite. He loves them and so just wants to make them more fun :)

Like Disney with mothers.

😂😂😂😂

Tyrion and Sansas and . Ramsey and Sansas weeding go without killing . Also Renly and Margaery

Word and She always chose her, now that must change 😂.

So disappointing!

He's so annoying 😂

You're supposed to dislike him. He's not on Rhaenyras side

Cringe af!!!

He thought it was going another direction. I think Alicent was trying to talk about the Daemon rumors. Criston thought she was referring to him so he accidentally spilled the beans about him and Rhaenyra.

Great questions all.

Yeah I feel the episode is mostly good, but definitely not the best! Missing out on small logical details make it rather inconclusive and bland. Like how tf couldn't the Kingsguard protect Rhaenyra when the fights broke out and stop the chaos sooner? It was their job to protect her, it was in the royal hall afterall, and surely they have full control of the event. Where tf did Daemon go!! he was there and suddenly he wasn't. Makes no sense. He ain't magic, and would not even abandon Rhaenyra like that. And behold our soon to be King-consort prince Laenor conveniently taking a beating on his wedding day and nobody steps in?? Like wtf!! Viserys the King and Lord Corlys helplessly shifting their ass on their chair? Lol Only for Harwin Strong to swoop in and save the day? I find it quite ridiculous if I start to scoop out and dwell on these things, so I think I'll stop here.

They keep trying to run with this, if the woman is "strong" the Daemon can't get it up.

it's a fair assumption that daemon kills rhea, daemon is known to dislike her and he's in the vale at the time put two and two together

It is implied in the book that it might have been him. That's the great thing about that particular book, most of the facts are not truly facts, they're versions told by someone who wasn't even there most of the times. The same goes for Rhaenyra and Criston's falling apart. In the book there's the version that she rejected him and the one where he rejected her. Now on the show we get to see the "real" story.

@@cooki3th1ef According to the ASOIAF wiki, Daemon was in the Stepstones when she died, and flew to the Vale upon hearing the news.

@@TheMonkeymonkeyking yeah there was no need for that… he could’ve hired faceless men to kill her lol

Yep

Bruv was stupid for killing Joffrey

@@rexibhazoboa7097 Joffrey was stupid for telling Sir Criston Cole that he knew his secret and he even threatened him and Rhaenyra which was what ticked him off. Everything Joffrey did was absolutely unnecessary, he should've kept his mouth shut and he'd still be alive

@@harryshome4588 Yes he should have, he could’ve said what he said without threat. But even so, Crispin should not have resulted to violence. He knew Leanor’s secret as well. Crispin was thinking with his heart. I personally hope he doesn’t live to see the end of this war

@rexibhazoboa well man spilled the beans to Alicent and thought any day was his last day, his love just spurned him and the fact he still has to watch over her as a kingsguard is torture, so he thought ‘fuck it.’ Stupid but he knew it.

Yes. Ser cole will be a good husband to Rhaenyra i think. But unfortunately, he's falling in love to princess and heir the iron throne, and he's not coming from a noble house. So sad for ser criston.

True but to be fair doesn't mean she will make a good ruler doing that either. None of the male whores where good rulers either. Look at king Robert and Aegon the unworthy.

That’s true and Alicent and Rhaenyra both have such different lives despite being so close to each other now

Had Ser Criston in this case would be born as a woman, let's say Lady Cristina, and somehow would be elevated to the position of the Kingsguard, what potential male Rhaenyra did to potential Lady Cristian would be clearly discussed as the an obvious abuse of power.

Takeaway: Don't be a modern woman.

Alas, she was born female. She is turning into Cersei with each episode. Both mother bastards and think they are above the rules because of their last names.

Their chemistry is excellent but they're NOT carrying the show. First and foremost the writing and direction are. Most of the cast is excellent. Take away Paddy Constantine's performance, etc. and there would be no counter-weight, no opposition to what Matt Smith and Milly Alcock are doing as Daemon and Rhaenyra.

They are not carrying the show, at least this episode 5. It is Criston Cole and Alicent’s powermove of being late and wearing that green dress that made this amazing.

In what world would you feel bad for Criston after what he did, just wait til you see the rest of the season😂

I mean, his idea to run off with Rhaenyra was kind of foolish. Your idea was to run off with the King's daughter, you assume she would leave her dragon (which she loves to ride) and her position. Corlys would be upset and presumably Rhaenys may have gone to look for her, Daemon has some connection with her as well so he would have been up in the air. Viscerys would have sent people to look for them. It's possible they could have disappeared but not an absolute. Rhaenyra wasn't going to be happy as the wife of a trader or sell sword. He already disobeyed his vows of chastity, running off with Rhaenyra certainly wouldn't bring back his honor.

bro feels bad for ser criston after he commits a vicious hate crime in homophobic rage hm.....

@@villanelles_suit7271 I think it was less about 'Homophobic rage' and more so about the fact my guy just told Criston he knew his secret that could ultimately ruin him entirely

@@bugcatcherjacky1334 Except Criston knows his secret too, so weak point.

Seriously? You love a character that was in the show for 5 whole minutes?

And the caterers lol

Agree

It's not soft corner for Ser Criston..It's sympathizing with him and the mutual feeling of how the Targaryens have used them ...like how their entire existence and purpose is now tied to the Targaryen vices...that oaths or precedence or traditions don't matter...that they (Targaryens) are the law and perhaps even the seven God's only answered their prayers...that's why Alicent/Cole are seen mostly in the Godswood than in the sept in their most vulnerable moments.

Alicent is no innocent either. She kept a secret from Rhaenyra as well, having secret "talks" with Viserys in order to further their own family line. She wouldn't be torn between her family and Targaryens if it weren't for his scheming father. She very much well could've stayed friends with Rhaenyra if she didn't marry Viserys.

@@gopipavi9653 I liked your perspective. Quite right in fact. Rhaenyra is pretty cool about continuing things as they were going with Cole but he clearly felt being used by the Princess. That look on Cole's face when watching Rhaenyra dance with Laenor. was impactful. Think this is gonna create resentment for Rhaenyra in Ser Criston's mind. Looks like he would be in the Green party soon enough.

@@gopipavi9653 It is not soft corner. She will use criston's anger against rhynaera that's why she saved his life. Criston will become rhynaera's sworn enemy.

@@markmywords3817 but she had no choice she was forced by her father and you can’t refuse an proposal made by the king himself

Agreed🔥🔥🔥

You can't really compare this wedding to the red wedding. This one was mild compared lol.

It's just that every house has its own color. Mostly because that's representive in their banners. The Targaryens have black and the hightowers green.

This

yes. The brother dynamic is very cool in this show. Cant wait to see Aegon, Aemond and Daeron

have some sympathy for my boi Criston

In the books, when Laenor's lack of interest in women is mentioned in the council, Mellos says "I don't like fish but when fish is served I eat it". I suppose that's where they took the inspiration from to talk about food.

If he values his honor more he wouldn't have slept with Rhaenyra in the first place. Also, running off with Rhaenyra and marrying her wouldn't have restored his honor. In fact, it would have made things worse.

Right, she lied to Rhaenyra all while sleeping with her father, so Alicent can kick rocks for all I care.

Naw she was manipulated by her father, stuck her neck out to her best friend and lied, and on top of that she's the only one that actually tried to stick to her vows and duty while Rhaenyra wants to have her cake and eat it

@@Jacaerys1 lmaoooo so true. the audacity the girl has !! she was quick to forget the way she became queen it seems. but i think it comes down to two things : she feels alone and is hurt that even her best friend lied to her + she’s super mad her best friend gets to have sex with a handsome knight while she’s stuck with dying grandpa that she was forced to bed on Otto’s will. In episode 1 you can tell Alicent was excited to meet ser Cole so it’s like a double tragedy for her really

@@aluminumelon i mean, that is what game of thrones is all about no? vows and duties vs freedom. the world isn't necessarily just black and white, the same goes for the world GRRM built.

@@staycgirls6148 while I agree with that, I just find Alicent being a product of other people's decisions on her while Rhaenyra being selfish for the most part

Well, Rhaenyra lied and Alicent believed her, which resulted in her father being dismissed. Also, Otto has a point, at this point in time people won't accept a female ruler easily. Even if Alicent gives up, there will always be some people claiming that Aegon (Alicent's son) should be the king. So, Otto is totally right here, Alicent and her kids might be murdered when Viserys dies. I'm not saying that Otto is a good guy and he's trying to make good things to the realm. I'm just saying that there is no one innocent here. Rhaenyra is not an angel. Hell, she just asked Criston Cole to be her whore!

@@CampusMania if they raised Aegon by telling him that her sister will be queen , it might not go to war . But if you raise him by telling him you should be king and take crown from your sister , there will be war

@@tornikebukhrashvili2170 There is a big chance that he might get killed if Rhaenyra became queen. To avoid any claims for the throne, Alicent's kids have to be murdered. So, the role of thumb here, as Cersei once said: "When you play the game of thrones you win or you die. There is no middle ground."

If you believe rhaenyra will not kill alicent's son for iron throne..you're the dumbest😅🤣

@@CampusMania I hardly think that we ought to be following lessons from Cersei of all people. There could have been a united front between Alicent and Rhaenyra, but the reality is paranoia and anger and revenge are just easier emotions to access and play into than trying to do the work of actually making a real difference.