No video
How a $1.6 Billion Lawsuit May Change the UFC Forever
Рет қаралды 468,105
3 жыл бұрынUltimate Fighting Championship has long dominated the world of mixed martial arts. But UFC's effort to swallow up competitors has triggered a class action by fighters who claim it's abusing its power. Now a key court victory threatens the organization's very business model.
Read more about the UFC on Bloomberg Businessweek: www.bloomberg....
#UFC #Storylines #BloombergQuicktake
--------
Like this video? Subscribe: www.youtube.com...
Become a Quicktake Member for exclusive perks: www.youtube.com...
QuickTake Originals is Bloomberg's official premium video channel. We bring you insights and analysis from business, science, and technology experts who are shaping our future. We’re home to Hello World, Giant Leap, Storylines, and the series powering CityLab, Bloomberg Businessweek, Bloomberg Green, and much more.
Subscribe for business news, but not as you've known it: exclusive interviews, fascinating profiles, data-driven analysis, and the latest in tech innovation from around the world.
Visit our partner channel QuickTake News for breaking global news and insight in an instant.
@cdizzle 3 жыл бұрын
"Looks like a bar fight" - Someone who has never seen a bar fight.
@Leadfoot_P71 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, was just thinking that!
@Hugoboss2017 3 жыл бұрын
@@Leadfoot_P71 This twerp!!
@juliopinal2256 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know every guy in the bar was a black belt!!
@bobwilliams9061 3 жыл бұрын
Or had even been in a straight bar.
@michaelblanco2189 3 жыл бұрын
This is how bar fights go... Guy 1: Sucker punch!!! Guy 2: 🛌 😴 💤 💤
@reservoirfrogs2177 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say I've never seen someone throw a spinning wheel kick in a bar fight
@lucaslouzada44 3 жыл бұрын
That commentary is so absolutely ridiculous that only the rest of the video would show just how ignorant about MMA this reporter is…
@liquidbrainstorm 3 жыл бұрын
I have
@geoff4705 3 жыл бұрын
You are going to the wrong bars.
@andrewlynch1754 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that point that guy made was so outdated.
@frankyflowers 3 жыл бұрын
its way easier on drunks than sober people.
@ChunkyJo 3 жыл бұрын
How can you make a story about fighters' money and not mention the UFC taking away their ability to wear sponsored shorts? This lawsuit might not even exist if UFC didn't take away sponsorships.
@alpacapines8553 3 жыл бұрын
Because they aren't very knowledgeable, they just know there's a lawsuit. They're picking up what's left from mma sites that seemingly lost interest in this case since covid started and it became harder to get a press pass at a ufc event.
@grantlong6586 3 жыл бұрын
Not just shorts they also banned tatoo sponsorships. Id like to imagine in an alternate reality fighters would look like takashi 69 but instead of 69 is monster energy logos.
@jamesdufc1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but if you don’t like that , then the fighters can leave and fight somewhere else yeah ? Do McDonald’s employees get to wear sponsorships cuz they don’t earn enough ? And complaining about broken bones during a fight lol what do you expect lol and you don’t get to go into a business and tell them what they will be paying , you know the offer before u sign
@GenghisKhan311 3 жыл бұрын
So true greedy pos. Hope fighter's get huge victory. If they go to court fans will support them with a win
@KrikZ32 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdufc1 they can't leave and go somewhere else, that's not how contracts work
@datnobodyking13 3 жыл бұрын
That dweeb is trying to convince people that he's actually seen a barfight
@Soulseeologia 3 жыл бұрын
with that dweeb the UFC is gonna have an easy time in court smh
@thenoneckpeoplerepresentat8074 3 жыл бұрын
His vantage point was from under a table.
@MrShitthead 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, ikr! I don’t even think this guys been in a bar, probably terrified of them.
@theglassmaster3140 3 жыл бұрын
The closest thing he's been to a bar fight was probably from a couple people tong fighting over spring rolls at sushi bar
@HighkEdits 3 жыл бұрын
"it doesnt look like mastery, it looks like a barfight" Got to love when these huge outlets throw opinions on things they know nothing about.
@dv6808 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, then i saw the guy that said that and every thing was clear.
@sachinbangaru737 3 жыл бұрын
Would pay money to see a guy throw a heel kick in a bar
@evilmustache 3 жыл бұрын
When did that guy ever see a barfight? What kind of bars does he go to where they fight like they are in the UFC? Must be a dangerous guy...
@blakathegrappler88 3 жыл бұрын
Dude never seen a fight in his life if you watch any untrained fight is a huge difference between Mixed martial artist
@genkimachina 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that guy really looks like he has seen a lot of bar fights.
@honklerfinkelstein2113 3 жыл бұрын
"looks like a barfight" yeah we all see barfights where someone lands a spinning heel kick
@aidenneville7983 3 жыл бұрын
his mom picked out that suit.
@given-namesurname5740 3 жыл бұрын
Chuck Norris, Steven Seagal, many such examples.
@GameFuMaster 3 жыл бұрын
guy probably think martial arts fights are like Crouching Tiger.
@Max-tg5in 3 жыл бұрын
Roadhouse
@nawfsidereviews6029 3 жыл бұрын
@@Max-tg5in ahhhhh a fellow lover of the arts.
@beowulfmacbethson9675 3 жыл бұрын
I love how everybody is just roasting this dude and his "barfight" comment instead of discussing the lawsuit. Not to say it isn't deserved though.
@zainlookboonmee 3 жыл бұрын
Tells you their priorities. Rather than the well-being of the fighters and their financial stability, they're taking offense at a turn of phrase. Some major ego projection and "Tough Guy" self-image matters more than the very real issues these fighters are facing.
@TheAtoozofficial 3 жыл бұрын
So true ! Internet is just full of people like that, always searching new "Memes" or new things to get likes ... Fighters deserve better from the "fans" and from UFC .
@chrisgachoka6620 3 жыл бұрын
i was just about to say this
@princewembo8905 3 жыл бұрын
@@zainlookboonmee bro. You get it! It’s so sad
@Freemouse159 3 жыл бұрын
UFC fanboys IQ is low... they can only focus on 3 word phrases and that's it.
@thefaultinourdeathstars 3 жыл бұрын
"There are some rules in the UFC." This guy knows nothing about the sport.
@Re-car-nationTV 3 жыл бұрын
You’re ignoring everything and focusing on the “bar fight” ” part point is they need to make more money 💵
@lecookie007 3 жыл бұрын
@@Re-car-nationTV This whole video is a mess. Degrades top athletes to bar fighting, shows one sided reporting, ect. Focus on the lawsuit and not on some opinion you have on the sport. The whole video makes me more mad at the guy reporting on it the actual fight compensation.
@r3dp1ll 3 жыл бұрын
and he should have said MMA
@amikomalania3406 3 жыл бұрын
As much as i love what UFC offers an everything, it's clear that fighters ARE NOT payed well enough.
@ryangreen45 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanillaglue *payad
@Tko_Seven 3 жыл бұрын
*pade
@Loots1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tko_Seven payde*
@Tko_Seven 3 жыл бұрын
@@Loots1 *peighd.
@mr.orange8952 3 жыл бұрын
What is an event's overhead costs?
@leeeduncan 3 жыл бұрын
"Looks like a barfight" spoken by a guy that's probably never watched UFC or seen a barfight.
@clydecmcelroy4638 3 жыл бұрын
He certainly never been in one. Cuz I can see he's not broke in half
@videogamerskater91 3 жыл бұрын
That dude sounded worst than a casual. And the fact he was allowed to even be heard is embarrassing
@Dshark382D 3 жыл бұрын
That’s like saying a cat is really close to a whale
@emanuel81111 3 жыл бұрын
everyone knows that a barfight without someone throwing an question mark kick or a imanari roll isnt a real barfight.
@mohammedhussain6749 3 жыл бұрын
You can argue Paula costa vs Yoel Romero was basically a bar fight
@dontevntrip8627 3 жыл бұрын
Dana White meant to say "If this thing takes off, we will use you" I hope this lawsuit goes through and these fighters can stop being taken advantage of.
@noone-zl2di 3 жыл бұрын
Never seen someone put the opponent in a triangle choke or in a Twister in a bar fight .
@jeffalbillar7625 3 жыл бұрын
That's all you took from this video?
@noone-zl2di 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffalbillar7625 no sir,I commented only the point that seemed little bit stereotyped and funny to me.
@ims9374 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen plenty
@MrFineWhiteWine 3 жыл бұрын
“From the guy who just got his first fight” - then shows a clip of khabib, one of the most famous and experienced fighters...
@thinq3388 3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@hrlrl9309 3 жыл бұрын
"Have to take side jobs" Shows Stipe (a multi time world champion and millionaire who does firefighting to help people)
@abhishekdev258 3 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from a guy who looks like he hides behind his wife's boyfriend for protection?
@mhdf3367 3 жыл бұрын
@@abhishekdev258 bro where are you from abhishake
@abhishekdev258 3 жыл бұрын
@@mhdf3367 it's Abhishek not Abhishake. Why do you want to know my location.
@joshthomas911 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta back the fighters on this one. Love UFC but the athletes deserve the same as other pro sports if not more!
@kevinfrankham2219 3 жыл бұрын
Go play football
@jaco9286 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is they can't afford to run the volume of shows. Paying these guys that much. 1 sports team is worth the entire UFC price they paid for it.
@kingmike4444 3 жыл бұрын
amazing logic
@GT-mn3bx 3 жыл бұрын
Fighters have no other avenues for the most part.
@alifarah3665 3 жыл бұрын
Is there MMA organization pays more than UFC !!
@princewembo8905 3 жыл бұрын
They are talking about people’s well being but people are stuck on the bar fight phrase? Come on
@tinyturbo317 3 жыл бұрын
That kind of talk gets you into a "bar fight".
@alfredoalfaro5000 3 жыл бұрын
Dude that probably has never thrown a punch in his life "it doesnt look like mastery, it looks like a barfight"
@ninjazzrhythm400 3 жыл бұрын
Dude is a shrimp trying to be like a lobster
@ciarancosgrave 3 жыл бұрын
@@ninjazzrhythm400 Maybe he's a robin trying to be a crow trying to be an albatross trying to be an eagle trying to be a MIG 29 trying to be an atom bomb trying to be a galaxy trying to be a universe trying to be "The All" . But at least he's trying. What are you doing?
@lemaireisthebestever 3 жыл бұрын
@@ciarancosgrave didn't read lol dork
@bchn-xr6gi 3 жыл бұрын
"' Fighters had a second job'' Shows Stipe Miocic the Greatest Heavy Weight Ever doing his hobby as a firefighter lol
@PVWNSVCR1F1C3 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think stipe is a firefighter as a hobby.
@EatMyShortsAU 3 жыл бұрын
Stipe easily made millions from his title defenses and PPV views so not the best example.
@hugonongbri8100 3 жыл бұрын
Thats literally his job.
@PeaceWarMostlyWar 3 жыл бұрын
@@EatMyShortsAU A quick search shows you that Stipe didn’t make a million dollars for anyone fight. Their pay isn’t what they take home either. They still need to pay taxes, trainers, camps, agent, etc. Understand that even the most well known fighters make pennies for the talent and eyes they bring in
@user-qn6uz7wm1t 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeaceWarMostlyWar Well said. Hence why you see so many big name fighters get out of the ring and pursue other careers as soon as possible.
@jerinmathew4726 3 жыл бұрын
Fighter Pay finally becoming a mainstream topic. Lets hope Baldy loses💀
@jerinmathew4726 3 жыл бұрын
@Burgers yeah but dude your childhood dream won't help ypu when you're 60 and can't seem to remember half your life while struggling to walk. Dreams won't pay bills and dreams don't cut taxes. Not everyone deserves McGregor money but 30k for a prelim fighter is criminally low. Another way the fighters could've earned was outfit sponsorship but Baldy TRT cut that out too. Read up about the fight island deal Ari cut and all of this seems even more infuriating
@lohandesilva 3 жыл бұрын
if dana lost MMA will become boxing today . fighters will get paid , promoters will get paid . but MMA itself will lose . AJ vs fury should've happed 4 years ago . but it might not happen until next year . boxing is all about celbretty nowadays . the beauty of MMA will go away . we won't see guys like conor, jiri , Anderson if that happed . fighters will get replaced by play safe athletes
@MW-dd8vk 3 жыл бұрын
More money will come when more attention is on the sport
@stevewyrda8708 3 жыл бұрын
@@jerinmathew4726 A lot of prelim fighters are starting with 14k/14k and 4k sponsorship money, so you'll only get 18k when you lose the fight. Terrance Mckinney made at UFC 263 28k and an undisclosed bonus. I understand that they didn't want to have these odd companies on the shorts of the fighters, because it doesn't look great on tv. They should've made some restrictions on what kind of sponsors should've been allowed on the shorts, but we all know they wanted to please the shareholders by taking away from the fighters.
@NotKimiRaikkonen 3 жыл бұрын
Its not Dana, it's UFC's parent company, Endeavor, which is still struggling to pay its $4 billion loan on UFC.
@IftiAlam1999 3 жыл бұрын
Umm. A bar fight huh? A bar fight with rules, referees, judges and athletic commissions overseeing everything?
@chrisdovrik2894 3 жыл бұрын
That’s now. Prior to that UFC had no regulations or weight classes. Hence his bar fight analogy.
@jamesbedichek6106 3 жыл бұрын
"looks like a bar fight" Very cringe, I can't believe they actually had 0 people working on this story who were even casual fight fans.
@at0mly 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they just interviewed actual fighters. I'm sure you know more about UFC than they do.
@esintrixx7943 3 жыл бұрын
50% should be the standard… I didn’t realize how underpaid they were. I just thought they lacked revenue. This was very interesting and I hope these warriors get their fair share.
@gilbertoflores7397 3 жыл бұрын
They do lack revenue. If they had the same viewership as the NFL or basketball, many would be making millions per fight too.
@PeaceWarMostlyWar 3 жыл бұрын
@@gilbertoflores7397 20% of the revenue goes to fighters. As listed in the video other professional sport organizations pay their players 50% of the revenue. So that’s a lot more money to be had for all fighters no matter their name draw or success
@garden3818 3 жыл бұрын
@Lucas Oldaker I don't know, maybe because these fighters are taking brain damage for our enjoyment? They deserve 50% for that, and it's not like they choose only to fight 3 times a year. Most of the time, they're suspended due to injury. You are a spiteful spoiled little brat.
@lsdesignweb 3 жыл бұрын
@Lucas Oldaker cuase without those 15-25 minutes the company will make ZERO dollars and those 15-25 minutes cost a lot in training, food and medical bills
@starkk19 3 жыл бұрын
@Lucas Oldaker Let's see the UFC with just Dana White, Joe Rogan and the octagon and let's see how much revenue they'll get. That's the stupidest thing I've heard.
@MM-kq8gc 3 жыл бұрын
all they need to do is pay them more! they deserve it
@thekingjonny100 3 жыл бұрын
Lol no they don’t
@jamessintern2710 3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t we just print more money😡😡😡😡😡
@EatMyShortsAU 3 жыл бұрын
They need to change the contracts too so fighters have more freedom to fight for other orgs..
@rofidganteng1 3 жыл бұрын
btw. Andrew Yang has this policies when he run for the US President. make some union for fighters
@2252mario 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamessintern2710 that's not it idiot the profit share is all wrong it's not about making money appear out of thin air
@bubbagumption9938 3 жыл бұрын
"It doesn't look like martial arts talent, more like a bar fight" how dare you. Smh
@Macestun 3 жыл бұрын
People in the comments just pointing out the "bar fight" remark when it's not the point of the video, take it easy guys.
@LC-yo3bj 3 жыл бұрын
Additionally, yes it does look like a balletic display lol. It's almost literally a dance of violence, balance, power, torque, contortion, and acrobatics. It's nearly as balletic as ballet itself.
@shashipancholi 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest myth in professional combat sports is that fighter pay is based on talent
@SupstiTDerp 3 жыл бұрын
if i am not mistaken nate diaz made 250k$ (unranked) fighting leon edwards (top 3) who made 100k$, they both get extra from PPV sales, but im sure diaz got atleast 2.5x higher ppv % anyways. They get paid based on popularity not their actual skill level. Connor set that "popularity sells" concept up really well in modern MMA. Now you have more and more fighters putting full effort into faking personalities, beefing etc because getting better does not raise your pay that much.
@roblee4480 3 жыл бұрын
Its based on Draw
@roblee4480 3 жыл бұрын
@@SupstiTDerp Diaz made Over a million against Edwards
@roblee4480 3 жыл бұрын
@@SupstiTDerp Diaz was the draw not Edwards
@reubenbell1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@SupstiTDerp There is no way on Earth Edwards got PPV points
@me.1475 3 жыл бұрын
this is exciting! UFC treats certain fighters like GARBAGE!
@Hazy04 3 жыл бұрын
How is it exciting
@TheBullyDisciple 3 жыл бұрын
Some fighters are GARBAGE!
@stephanwrox 3 жыл бұрын
Well if you're a garbage fighter then they get paid garbage.
@me.1475 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hazy04 called KARMA
@Hazy04 3 жыл бұрын
@@me.1475 Well why didn't you say that, also, the argument is meaningless, why would a UFC fighter go to another organisation, when they would earn less? This is essentially saying "let UFC fighters earn less Money if they wanted to" which they don't
@yolo1690UDA 3 жыл бұрын
Bisping talks about losing his eye and getting the ufc doctors to pass him so he can fight says on his podcast all the time
@mikemichaels2914 3 жыл бұрын
He kept it a secret from them
@yolo1690UDA 3 жыл бұрын
No he didn't the ufc knew. it was the ufc doctors that cleared him he also said himself
@mikemichaels2914 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yea that's right sorry, he passed the tests they gave him and recommended he didn't fight
@FATBOYSxK9S 3 жыл бұрын
bro said "fighters have side jobs" then shows Stipe at his volunteer job lol
@rubenrodriguez5020 3 жыл бұрын
This guy knows nothing
@RedPantyNight 3 жыл бұрын
They picked the worst guy to intro this. Next time please have someone who understand the sport.
@PVWNSVCR1F1C3 3 жыл бұрын
That guy has never seen a bar fight for sure.
@JohnDoe-do8fh 3 жыл бұрын
This dude asks his wife's boyfriend to protect him when he gets into a bar fight.
@enlightenedtrucker739 3 жыл бұрын
That one made me lol
@CharlesGrinbaum 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂😅
@CharlesGrinbaum 3 жыл бұрын
@@enlightenedtrucker739 same!
@analyticalmindset 3 жыл бұрын
The fighters need to unionize. This is a typical capitalism cycle. Business takes advantage of cheap labor , said labor unionizes after years of being taken advantage of.
@OsvaldoBayerista 3 жыл бұрын
yeah
@weeklycanvas2751 3 жыл бұрын
1:29 "From the guy who just got his first fight". proceeds to show us the GOAT as an example
@wergar_the_warwolf6834 3 жыл бұрын
Not the GOAT but I get the point. Man had 13 fights in the UFC lmaooo
@glorzoglory998 3 жыл бұрын
WTF?
@mohammedmashud4621 3 жыл бұрын
@@wergar_the_warwolf6834 but he still dominated the top fighters at lw
@wergar_the_warwolf6834 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohammedmashud4621 Yeah he did but he ain't the GOAT. The joke is still funny tho
@jamessintern2710 3 жыл бұрын
@@wergar_the_warwolf6834 who woulda beat khabib
@classynasty9262 3 жыл бұрын
Pay your Fighters Dana!!! UFC is worth 7.89 Billion Dollars
@harislesmana9508 3 жыл бұрын
and died in the water like boxing the worth is from stock not communis money
@classynasty9262 3 жыл бұрын
@@harislesmana9508 you obviously don’t know who really owns UFC smh
@harislesmana9508 3 жыл бұрын
@@classynasty9262 the owner is people who put they money in risk bust so this ungreatful brat can make carier if they suck on it its the owner fould? Look the good ufc carier are they poor?
@sp1nks248 3 жыл бұрын
1. UFC 2. ONE Championship 3. Bellator 4. Invicta 5. Legacy Fighting Alliance
@DavidDOquendo 3 жыл бұрын
“… it looks like a bar fight.”? Far from the truth. If you want the fans AND fighters to dislike the video, the first thing you have to do is completely dismiss the craft.
@kunklekore5921 3 жыл бұрын
It annoys me how much he says UFC when he refers to the sport of MMA. It just adds to the feeling that this guy only has a vague idea of what he is talking about.
@Eugenepanels 3 жыл бұрын
Thats journalism For ya lawsuits were filed before ufc has a team of lawyers to make sure this gets delayed as much as possible.
@gabrieljean-batiste2006 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is technically a difference between UFC and MMA, but if UFC doesn't have any rivals, then it's the defacto MMA standard. That means there's nothing really wrong with using UFC when referring to MMA.
@prepaidtrash5552 3 жыл бұрын
When you talk about basketball you talk about the NBA right? Soccer? EPL? La Liga?
@mcnally211 3 жыл бұрын
The fighters NEED a union. Pension plans & healthcare for life.
@stevesalvant80 3 жыл бұрын
And then come the corruption
@tonyrandall3146 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they don't. Head it up with Ariel, he will be popular.
@duramaxdad 3 жыл бұрын
We all need this.
@nnhk0056 3 жыл бұрын
You have no idea what you're talking about.
@adriangale 3 жыл бұрын
The group that bought the ufc paid $4 billion. At just 5% return that’s $200 million a year. At 10% it’s $400 million. ESPN pays $150 million a year for exclusive coverage. It was purchased for too much for the fighters to get paid properly.
@eddiesaint8713 3 жыл бұрын
It’ just said they paid 2 million
@adriangale 3 жыл бұрын
@@eddiesaint8713 that was in the beginning. Those guys sold it recently for $4 billion
@scurtis7983 3 жыл бұрын
Bet a million this guy has never thrown a punch in his life.
@NajCarnage 3 жыл бұрын
What does that have to do with fair pay for fighters? And do you have a million to bet? And a million of what? Grains of sand? Rupees? Yens? Ripe tomatoes? What?
@Stepphen 3 жыл бұрын
0:27 probably the worst take on MMA ever
@howdyusa 3 жыл бұрын
Calm down karen..
@basedmadoka9479 3 жыл бұрын
@@howdyusa show a head kick KO as an example as if that’s what happens in bar fights
@howdyusa 3 жыл бұрын
@@basedmadoka9479 the whole artistry of mma in UFC has been diluted. Gone of the ways of Machidas karate. Gone are the ways of Silvas Muy Thai. I say mma in UFC because there is no real headstrong mma organization outside the UFC. PFL is coming up. But back to subject, the majority of fighters today are cookie cutter mold brawl kickboxers with a base in wrestling because it works. The UFC has made it tough for fighters to promote advertisements like their gyms as well and its made the sport inherently more selfish. One can see the reasons why the UFC would eliminate fighters ability for branding.
@williambrandondavis6897 3 жыл бұрын
The UFC is a soap opera for boys that were raised by women and didn't have a dad.
@lyndeen 3 жыл бұрын
@@williambrandondavis6897 projectionist
@byzel 3 жыл бұрын
Tough topic. On one hand, fighters deserve to be paid more. On the other, well... Let's take a look at boxing today... If the promotion doesn't have some power over the fighters, you don't have the right fights, and the athletes get replaced by KZfaqrs. Hard balance to have.
@randomfighter2249 3 жыл бұрын
Yes also UFC has lot of overheads. They have built performance institute in many places, also payment to the employees, production staff, espn contribution, etccc
@starkk19 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, boxing is not as popular anymore which is why they resort to just putting up any internet person and have them fight. It's not even having no control over the fighters. If they could just pay the fighters more based on what they earn, that would be a big step already.
@calvinvang4749 2 жыл бұрын
@@starkk19 if boxing is dead, not popular anymore why do ufc fighters fight in boxing? Because it makes more money. If ufc is doing so well why are they not paying their fighters?
@dylanmcdonald7010 3 жыл бұрын
“It looks like a bar fight* the next clip is a head kick knockout.
@LC-yo3bj 3 жыл бұрын
I bet the editor put it in there just because he was so embarrassed
@clarkh3314 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine using someone who's actually knowledgeable to narrate these things.
@megamax916 3 жыл бұрын
Dana makes most of the dollars that the fighters deserve.
@jeffalbillar7625 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not commenting on the reporter and sticking to the relevant topic. Most of the other comments are about some cockamamie bar fight comment the reporter said.
@williambrandondavis6897 3 жыл бұрын
A bunch of millenial cry babies that can't take responsibility for their actions. You signed the contract and then act they held a gun to your head and forced you. Most of these guys would be lucky with a job at Home Depot if it wasn't for their fighting talent.
@gabe1310 3 жыл бұрын
And he gambles it away in casinos
@liamrmorgans921 3 жыл бұрын
How much did the average basketball player get paid when the nba was in its first 10-20 years? How much do basketball players get outside of the nba? Or nfl? Or nhl?
@mosesparada6944 3 жыл бұрын
People forget he's a promoter first and foremost, people think he's the owner, he's the president and built the UFC built on his business model. He's a great business man and just as shady as one
@hourbee5535 3 жыл бұрын
Time to pay your fighters what they are worth, Dana.
@NotKimiRaikkonen 3 жыл бұрын
Dana doesn't pay anyone. He's paid a salary by UFC's parent company, to run it the way they want.
@raycrou8837 3 жыл бұрын
UFC trying to be NFL, NBA without the necessary instituitinal infrastructure underwriting it.
@Benbones99 3 жыл бұрын
Example?
@Iceman_mike 3 жыл бұрын
"It doesn't look like mastery of martial arts" Litterally a second After... Video shows best High kick ko to the face.
@boneytony5041 3 жыл бұрын
The video editor may have been trolling the narrator.
@Pasicho 3 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness everyone is cringing at the bar fight line.
@ian9toes 3 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair when Conor beat Jose, that looked like a bar fight. Both threw haymakers both landed and one went down.
@J_Tevo 3 жыл бұрын
For content that's actually got good merit, and a really helpful message, someone saying "It looks like a bar fight" completely undermines the entire video because that man has never watched a single MMA fight since about 2003. There are only 'some rules', there are an unbelievable amount of rules, what are you talking about?
@TheBullyDisciple 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty sure in a bar fight you call a eye poke, your still getting those straights to the nostrils.
@ndumisomagubane6255 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking has this guy ever seen a bar fight.
@SH-ry2xi 3 жыл бұрын
Focusing on one line he used to describe the perception of early MMA rather than the content of what he’s said for the rest of the entire video, is what completely undermines the video. Not the one line he mentions.
@user-ku6gj5qh7v 3 жыл бұрын
"it doesn't look like mastery, it looks like a barfight"... to the clueless I suppose. Basically stopped listening from that line. But yeah, pay them better.
@rafaeladrian1510 3 жыл бұрын
Josh Eidelson has clearly never watched an Anderson Silva fight or a bar fight
@joddeveloper7643 3 жыл бұрын
I think u guys should leave UFC alone and go fight Amazon,Facebook, google and the likes
@dankk2754 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no no UFC needs to pay their fighters
@dankk2754 3 жыл бұрын
@That hairy Berry yeah, i know and it’s still shit pay lol
@cenzala22 3 жыл бұрын
More like time to eat the rich in a real revolution. Here are we complaining about which companie we like best, while the concetration of money in the hands of the top 1% is bigger than in medieval times. Our system is broken and most people are wage slaves. UFC just found a way to enter the game, but the real problem is in politics, everything being done is legal.
@randomfighter2249 3 жыл бұрын
@That hairy Berry also zuffa fight week incentive, sponsorship money...
@EatMyShortsAU 3 жыл бұрын
Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft and Google are all super powerful. You might even be able to throw Nvidia, AMD and Netflix in there as well. But I guess but if you got many big corporations competing against each other in different fields/products they aren't really monopolies right?
@taylorcombs9762 3 жыл бұрын
Leave it to Bloomberg to imply that Stipe is a firefighter because "he doesn't feel financially secure."
@Gabriel-fr3sd 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not Stipe but UFC is underpayin their fighters, 50k before coaches cut, tex food and so on is crazy.
@ryu447 3 жыл бұрын
You have to remember they're contractors so taxes, paying managers/coaches, training cost, etc is coming out of that check.. People are scratching by in hopes of being top 10 to make any kind of decent money. They revenue split/ the ufc does with their fighters are borderline criminal!!
@taylorcombs9762 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryu447 You have to remember these people signed a contract agreeing for pay, agreed upon prior to signing with the UFC. Like Cheal said, the minimum pay for fighters is 6X higher than what it was 15 years ago.
@jasonmaguire7552 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryu447 first of all, it's not revenue split, it's profit split. The ufc can't give more money if they need that money to cover costs. Secondly, how much profit does the ufc make? None of you clowns can ever answer this
@MantisShrimp80 3 жыл бұрын
@@taylorcombs9762 15 years ago? 15 years ago when guys like Don Frye started out they didn't have coaching staff or a camp, mma was a side hustle, it is not the same now, are you from a UFC social media management group? Do they pay you ok?
@not0468 3 жыл бұрын
It seems absolutely odd and cruel not to pay the fighters properly. If they even paid them just 30 percent they probably wouldn't feel so let down.
@coltonmyers1536 Жыл бұрын
What is "proper pay" to you?
@Alphazone. 3 жыл бұрын
It is disgusting how low percentage of revenue fighters get from ppv. Fighters are the product and the reason consumers buy so fair share would be nice!
@HackAcadmey 3 жыл бұрын
This video is so bad. Yes, there is an issue with fighter pay but I think this video did not do it justice at all. It's not just a brawl. It is a beautiful sport.
@JimmyKantstandyabitz 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Every single kick, punch, elbow, knee and takedowns are all strategically done.
@uf870 3 жыл бұрын
Chad Fighters : spending decades to master mix martial arts Beta media boi : " Bar fight "
@TheJerms7 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the reporter sound and look like the least prepared journalist ever?
@JustSumGeek 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: That guy has never seen a bar fight. Me: I've never seen a guy with such big eyes!
@nickhayden2299 3 жыл бұрын
Please dont speak about MMA if you have literally zero idea of what you're talking about.
@emanuel81111 3 жыл бұрын
When lawsuit changed to class-action Joe Rogan- " he tag him , he tag him , OOOH hes in wobbly legs"
@shahul8222 3 жыл бұрын
Whats a class action?
@FredBerger11.11 3 жыл бұрын
Did any fighter complain when the UFC was 50 Million in the red? The UFC has made many millionaires promoting their athletes, and many talented fighters/personalities move on to other successful careers. Saying that, maybe fighters can get a raise going forward.
@zoeksnarf7 3 жыл бұрын
09:08 “UFC just says, oh, you wanna fight for us? Just sign here. If not we’ve got 20 other fighters lined up.” Should sound familiar to other branches of work nowadays.
@RefinerSimilitude 3 жыл бұрын
Likening MMA to a bar fight. I can't think of any purpose it served other than to let the viewers know he didn't enjoy watching MMA or probably care anything about it. It couldn't have been less relevant to the story other than perhaps someone else should have been reporting on this. They were like, "I know who would be a good presence on this video to really connect with the audience, let's get that guy that only watches ballet and figure skating."
@myth6658 3 жыл бұрын
He isn’t exactly wrong though. To him, a layman, it appears to look like a bar fight hence to new viewers to likely looks like that too. Even in live events when the game goes to the ground, Fans start booing because they don’t appreciate the intricacy of BJJ, you can’t really blame him for the comment he doesn’t proclaim to be an expert on MMA he just wrote an article on Employee pay.
@rajeev203 3 жыл бұрын
“Looks like a bar fight” Proceeds to show a head kick KO as an example as if that’s what happens in bar fights 🤦♂️
@Getroy 3 жыл бұрын
This is kinda misleading, revenue is total earnings but UFC also needs money to keep on running. A better thing would be to show profit spilt between the company and its fighters
@user-id1if3tv4w 3 жыл бұрын
Ufc is paying the most, go to bellator or other promotions, and ask them for more money. The fact is if you don't want to fight for that money, don't fight. When you accept rules, stick with your decision or start your own promotion.
@policypolice4468 3 жыл бұрын
They talk about fighters "needing" side jobs and show stipe working as a firefighter and forget to mention that he has made millions with the ufc and just wants to be a firefighter. The ufc hit piece is missing tons of context
@nickvanrooyen3247 3 жыл бұрын
Still plenty of fighters not earning enough. 4 or 5 pay days a year if you lucky and if you aren't on the main card you having a bad time
@mamindhive 3 жыл бұрын
Are you compensated by Dana?
@NotKimiRaikkonen 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickvanrooyen3247 same with boxers. Everyone talks about headliners, but no one mentions that the undercard is getting paid worse than UFC undercards and being told they're getting exposure.
@randomfighter2249 3 жыл бұрын
@@NotKimiRaikkonen yes boxers literally get 500 to 1k on major boxing events... Same with boxers who start new until they have good record they get peanuts
@jamessintern2710 3 жыл бұрын
@Mcillsonn name the the actual fight where that happened. I’ll wait
@HaloHamstur 3 жыл бұрын
90% of comments are about the commentator calling mma a barfight
@garden3818 3 жыл бұрын
its ridiculous that people are focusing on that instead of the actual important parts of the video. goes to show that people want to avoid uncomfortable subjects
@RitaResilient511 3 жыл бұрын
Sad as these people get seriously injured. I've even seen old legends struggle to pay for their meds too many times. Medications due to their battles in the cage smh
@HUSTLE-HUB 3 жыл бұрын
They get hurt a lot more than boxers and they get paid a fraction of them smh
@grantlong6586 3 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the 1,876 boxers who died in the ring.
@anasqader3851 3 жыл бұрын
Uhm Boxing is more dangerous for you than MMA
@stopasking9745 3 жыл бұрын
Both are not fairly compensated in my opinion most boxers don't make s*** obviously there's Floyd Tyson Roy Jones excetera but they're the exception not the rule
@nunyabidness2143 3 жыл бұрын
The problem has always been the ufc thinking they own the sport of mma as well as their fighters, who they claim are independent contractors.
@letlet8893 3 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of these preliminary ufc fights personally and most of them only get 3k after tax and by the time you get to medical bills your looking about 1.800k depending on the injury.
@randomfighter2249 3 жыл бұрын
Lowest pay is 12k to show and 12k to win. Plus 3000 dollars sponsorship money. Which is low but better than boxing prelims in which they get 1k to show
@moviesreviews.1085 3 жыл бұрын
Ufc fighters have insurance.
@halleyoey9535 3 жыл бұрын
they pay low because its a bar fight lol. meanwhile Logan Paul vs Floyd Mayweather $$$$$$$$
@jaysosmooth6406 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomfighter2249 lol connor first fight was 6k to win 6k to fight
@randomfighter2249 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysosmooth6406 ha ha funny isn't it it was 6 or 7 years ago, now he's the richest MMA athlete. Debutants now make atleast 10k/10k or 12.5k/12.5k
@majnubhai1943 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know Dana paid people to protect him in the comments
@Tehquall 3 жыл бұрын
Nah just some fans are sick of people who have no idea what they're on about
@Nostalgia_Addict 3 жыл бұрын
"People can't possibly have opinions that disagree with me!"
@GonzooTheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nostalgia_Addict a dumb opinion
@jasonmaguire7552 3 жыл бұрын
Lol cope "Wahh you disagree with me you're being paid wahhh" Seriously, how much profit does the UFC make? If you don't know, you cant day they should pay fighters more
@nicholasallan9248 3 жыл бұрын
Lol the nerdiest guy in the world says "it's not a balletic display of martial skill rather it looks like a bar fight"
@Jramirezi97 3 жыл бұрын
I support the fighters. I don’t support the dude who said it resembles a bar fight. That’s so disrespectful towards the men who spend years mastering several martial arts.
@sadettinkopek319 3 жыл бұрын
About time UFC gets taken to court it treats most of the fighters like s**"
@Wakkks 3 жыл бұрын
Bellator is punching the air right now
@leley3138 3 жыл бұрын
They would be affected by the law too. I assume all of mixed martial arts in the US will have to abide by the new law. I hope the fighter win, they've been getting shafted for a long time
@newaccount6134 3 жыл бұрын
@Burgers Michael Chandler, former B champion said he made more in one his two UFC fights than he did his entire career at B. Askren said the same thing. So why are people getting cut and going to B?
@vietnamsemonky4082 3 жыл бұрын
@@newaccount6134 honestly id assume they got paid very well because they were huge gets for the UFC and probably got paid way better than other fighters lol, in the ufc they don't get all that sponsorship money.
@parli_poo11 3 жыл бұрын
@Burgers Bellator fighters get way less than UFC fighters. I've seen some fighters only get $1-2k in the prelims. I've also never seen a payout higher than $400k while in the UFC it's pretty common.
@parli_poo11 3 жыл бұрын
@Burgers I kind of agree with that. After doing the math, UFC 263 revenue was roughly $46.2mil from ppv buys(600,000 * 70 = 42mil) and gates($4,200,000), while fighters were compensated $5.58mil. That includes ppv points, sponsorships, and bonuses. That's roughly 12% of the total revenue. Without the sponsorship pay, it's 11.3%.
@ateebahmed2194 3 жыл бұрын
Ufc would still be a back yard fights without uncle Dana
@ModernMovers 3 жыл бұрын
This guys looks like he’s never even lifted his pinky before
@hemanthsai4584 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Rogan right now : " it is all over....It is all over " 😂😂
@FilmBuffBros 3 жыл бұрын
You mean Mike Goldberg...
@miguelladinodevera614 3 жыл бұрын
@@FilmBuffBros Goldie made calls freaking epic like Kevin Harlan in the NBA.
@the-mma-guru 3 жыл бұрын
Rename this "dumb idiots sign contracts that they don't actually agree with or understand then whine about it afterwards whilst attempting to ruin the sport of MMA through bitterness"
@NotKimiRaikkonen 3 жыл бұрын
Its like people with student debt crying about their loans, like they didn't understand what they were signing up for... no one to blame but themselves.
@Cryoniczz11 3 жыл бұрын
that “bar fight” line was disrespectful asf.
@jasonolinger7585 3 жыл бұрын
Employees always believe they are worth more but the interesting thing is that the business owners are the ones who added value to the company in how it is run. If the UFC was never purchased from the Fertitta's you better believe most of these fighters would not be as famous and would be making much less than they currently are.
@ascentraland9264 3 жыл бұрын
Professional fighters compared to a bar fight is ridiculous lol
@randomfighter2249 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@EatMyShortsAU 3 жыл бұрын
Tank Abott use to be a bar brawler, Masvidal and Slice were also backyard brawlers. So not that ridiculous.
@GARBO96 3 жыл бұрын
You guys literally show one of the few things illegal in the UFC right as the narrator is saying almost anything goes come on now do better
@benmcreynolds8581 3 жыл бұрын
I just hope the fighters make decent enough money to keep them secure and happy while they entertain us and put their bodies on the line for us fans.
@daddyethan 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason the UFC is as successful as it is, is because they know what to do with money, all that money isn't just "going into dana's pocket" like come on lol, they're opening gyms across the world, they got their own venue and many more projects, exactly what they should be doing to further the business which will eventually further the fighters in the end anyway, simple stuff.
@GamalKevin 3 жыл бұрын
I never knew this despite the long standing class action suit. Thank you for the video ✨
@carolynbuckley8733 3 жыл бұрын
A bar fight? Lol what bar are you hanging out in buddy?
@orangeusername1792 3 жыл бұрын
black belts only bar
@andrews2441 3 жыл бұрын
The idea that the UFC is a monopoly is hilarious. It’s not a monopoly or a monopsony. They don’t solely control the marketplace and they don’t solely control the resources. Fighters don’t have to sign the contracts, they sign them because it’s better for them than signing with another promoter. Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything.
@letsgojake.4078 3 жыл бұрын
I won my last few barfights by flying armbar, spinning wheel kick, and a twister.
@idventure6036 3 жыл бұрын
I thought slavery was banned. Crazy that an organisation can own a persons career. What if McDonalds owned all its workers until they worked for X years?
@sirkl4272 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh. On one hand, I'm really happy for the fighter athletes that this story is getting picked up by mainstream outlets. On the other hand, this reporter is not good. He's not bad, he understands business, to a degree. But him trying to explain what MMA is, and isn't, is just painful to watch. Really cringe worthy.
@he-man4978 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I asked my teacher and grandmaster if I should join the equivalent of MMA at the time. His reply, “ only if you are a fool and want to get killed.” The late grandmaster Moy Yat. Will forever love you sifu. Thank you for your wisdom and guidance. ❤️💪❤️💪❤️💪
@danielburris6076 3 жыл бұрын
I think he meant it looks like a ''TRUE'' fight, not a bar-fight.
@ceige3102 3 жыл бұрын
This video is embarrassing, you guys know nothing about MMA, calling it a barfight is incredibly disrespectful to all the fighters, this lawsuit won't happen, and if it does it'll ruin MMA because it'll be just like boxing where the top guys don't fight each other, the UFC is not a Monopoly
@randomfighter2249 3 жыл бұрын
Yes bellator, one championship, rizin do exist
@ceige3102 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomfighter2249 EXACTLY, a lot of the times fighters get paid more over there
@joco2826 3 жыл бұрын
UFC fanboys are Enemies of the fighters.
@cae744 3 жыл бұрын
They lost me when they referred it as a bar fight
@randomfighter2249 3 жыл бұрын
😅😂😂
@Jerowmee 3 жыл бұрын
Right ?!
@mboyer68 3 жыл бұрын
The UFC is a business. UFC fighters are employees. The best fighters become incredibly wealthy. There's only one NFL, there's only one NBA, there's only one MLB, there's only one UFC, and that's the way it is.
@dongately2817 3 жыл бұрын
This puts Dana White's "friendship" with Donald Trump in the proper perspective.