How a Balkan Drug Cartel Infiltrated Global Shipping

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Жыл бұрын

When officials found $1 billion worth of cocaine onboard the container ship Gayane in 2019, it kicked off a fight between the US and the world's largest shipping carrier over drug trafficking.
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@business
@business Жыл бұрын
Learn more 👉 How a Cocaine-Smuggling Cartel Infiltrated the World’s Biggest Shipping Company: www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-12-16/how-world-s-top-shipping-company-became-hub-for-drug-trafficking
@torethyen3893
@torethyen3893 Жыл бұрын
Learn more about how Prohibition is a giant failure that needs to be abolished!
@mackenziedick1903
@mackenziedick1903 Жыл бұрын
tar rather then tea other molecules not as easily come by
@mackenziedick1903
@mackenziedick1903 Жыл бұрын
chances are they are looking for the alkaloids
@SolitonHedgeFundcom
@SolitonHedgeFundcom Жыл бұрын
A
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
The instant you make something illegal there's a whole bunch of people looking for ways to bypass the law & if they have customers for their newly-illegalized goods they *_will_* succeed in bypassing the law. Where law-enforcement officers & politicians are customers it becomes pretty difficult to stop. The alternative is to regulate & tax it. This will initially bring the market price down but taxes can be increased & increased till the market looks for alternatives.
@RareTS
@RareTS Жыл бұрын
they are opening 1.5% of containers and still finding a decent amount of drugs imagine how much drugs are getting through
@xenuburger7924
@xenuburger7924 Жыл бұрын
Simple math says they intercept less than 1% of drug traffic. If we multiply by the amount of drugs they claim to intercept, we have to assume that people are using lots of drugs. Drug enforcement agencies actually work as indirect profit centers meant to keep drug profits high.
@noammichael5592
@noammichael5592 Жыл бұрын
@@xenuburger7924 How does the DEA increase profits? I understand if seizing drugs would lower the supply and increase prices but that is an increase in revenue not profits. Fighting these agencies are the #1 expense for cartels thereby decreasing profits.
@greezythumb
@greezythumb Жыл бұрын
@@noammichael5592 1 ton of coke can profit 35-40 million. There are multiple tons in a load on multiple ships seven days a week, around the clock. It's not an expense. Money to fight law enforcement is no more than putting a few bucks in a tip jar. They spend far more on security against rival cartels, crooks and bribes.
@simrdownmon6431
@simrdownmon6431 Жыл бұрын
Both the DEA and the Cartels depend on the drug war to survive. End The Drug War NOW!!!!
@jellyrun1
@jellyrun1 Жыл бұрын
98,5%...?!
@pvdppvdp6638
@pvdppvdp6638 Жыл бұрын
Many forget that MSC originates from Naples where the Camorra rules. MSC has been called Maffia Shipping Company by many people inside ports for probably 40 years.
@ecoideazventures6417
@ecoideazventures6417 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the full form update! It is really an eye opener for some of us
@davidbrown4540
@davidbrown4540 Жыл бұрын
And those dudes dont play. I would not be surprised to learn that "cooperation" was gained by threatening family members.
@flemmingsorensen1603
@flemmingsorensen1603 Жыл бұрын
MSC is a family-owned company, which was founded in Belgium in 1970 and has been headquartered in Switzerland since 1978. The company began operating with a single vessel and a single service and progressively grew through buying more vessels and bringing new services to the market.
@simrdownmon6431
@simrdownmon6431 Жыл бұрын
Both the DEA and the drug Cartels depend on the drug war to survive. End The Drug War NOW!!!!
@jayo552
@jayo552 Жыл бұрын
YEAH THIS SHIP WAS TRACED 2 JPMORGAN & CHASE, THE REAL CROOKS
@tkdurrani
@tkdurrani Жыл бұрын
I have been a Chief Engineer in MSC and know exactly what happens. Nothing of such can happen without the involvement of the Master with his substantial cut in the payment.
@rrmackay
@rrmackay Жыл бұрын
Its just the privelege of the captain to be able to have plausaible deniability and claim ignorance.
@Adam-kz4bn
@Adam-kz4bn Жыл бұрын
self snitching
@FajarSumirat
@FajarSumirat 10 ай бұрын
Did such a thing happened ocassionally (before covered up), or did it happen regularly?
@user-fx5nz7kz6b
@user-fx5nz7kz6b 10 ай бұрын
Between Mexican border to San Diego underground we have touched and seen more 🤣 like jay z once said.. 🤫
@bernardtheulsterman
@bernardtheulsterman 9 ай бұрын
and I guess, as well not without the knowledge of the company management...
@karanbhattt
@karanbhattt Жыл бұрын
This was known to seafarers since a very long time. We used to call MSC the Mafia Shipping Company. Around 2012 there was this guy who alerted the US authorities about the drug that was being trafficked on his ship. The US govt rewarded him and promised him a safe passage to his home country. He went to the airport(U.S) but never reached home.
@WhyDoThat
@WhyDoThat Жыл бұрын
If true probably witness protection for him.
@cambuurleeuwarden
@cambuurleeuwarden Жыл бұрын
@@WhyDoThat That's very naive thing to say. Hunderd percent got taken out.
@n0m1c
@n0m1c Жыл бұрын
"There was this guy." Cool story bro. Cute how there are zero details.
@camdt456
@camdt456 Жыл бұрын
@@n0m1c quit crying
@camdt456
@camdt456 4 ай бұрын
@@mathiasvries no i do my own research instead of relying on youtube comments to provide details or evidence lol
@SubServ637
@SubServ637 Жыл бұрын
BS - I've sailed for 36 plus years, retiring as Chief Engineer and there is NO Way that the Captain did not know; for that matter, everyone on that vessel would have known.
@emillyyelen5169
@emillyyelen5169 Жыл бұрын
it depends...
@richardt3607
@richardt3607 Жыл бұрын
You are 100% right… the whole company knows.. why else would they recruit expensive from the Balkans and not from the philippines.. how about the difference in lenght for the contracts betweetster crew and officers.. rotating crew between vessels..
@investia
@investia Жыл бұрын
Logically, those crews arrested know the least.
@jasoncreamer5747
@jasoncreamer5747 Жыл бұрын
Most smuggling happens with just one crew member.
@FFM0594
@FFM0594 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they drugged his cocoa.
@SiggiTh
@SiggiTh Жыл бұрын
"The MSC Gayane is one of the biggest ships sailing the ocean today." - *WRONG* It's not even in the top 1000. "MSC are today the world's largest shipping company." - MSC might be the world's largest *container* shipping company, Maersk is however the worlds biggest shipping company. Skyler White there has all her facts straight.
@HE-162
@HE-162 Жыл бұрын
Relax. No one cares that much about ships.
@marko6128
@marko6128 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was surprised to hear that assertion, as well. I checked it to be sure and the MSC Gayene turns out to have less than half of the carrying capacity of the largest container ships out there. Hopefully the journalist will see this and be more careful with the facts in the future.
@jorgenfrohlich6954
@jorgenfrohlich6954 Жыл бұрын
And MSC is not the biggest MAERSK is by far the biggest shipping Company
@the_area_enduro
@the_area_enduro Жыл бұрын
@@HE-162 fact are important especially if your a 'journalist' Skyler would hate to be labelled fake news
@marcoaponte5888
@marcoaponte5888 Жыл бұрын
@@jorgenfrohlich6954 by what metrics? it was a close race for a long time, but last year MSC surpassed MAERSK in terms of TEU transported
@pvdppvdp6638
@pvdppvdp6638 6 ай бұрын
It would be nice if you make a video about the way MSC grew so quickly in the eighties and nineties. Never saw a shipping company expand and grow so quickly in such a little time.
@JOHNTITOR-kg9zj
@JOHNTITOR-kg9zj 4 ай бұрын
i give u a hint. its white and its a powder and it rhymes with rogaine
@DasMaddie
@DasMaddie 2 ай бұрын
probably took care of their employees
@Emerson-gr8uc
@Emerson-gr8uc 2 ай бұрын
I recently worked with MSC who owns MS Security on these vessels. The Security on these vessels isn't what you think it is. It's more a front to let the U.S. know that MSC vessels have security guards on these ships. We don't do anything special but just sit there and be seen, no training, no certificates, security guards are mainly Greek and South Africans.
@gregbuser4690
@gregbuser4690 Жыл бұрын
I have a hard time believing that it would be possible to pull off a loading at sea operation like that without the knowledge of the captain.
@alexandrebastarache4395
@alexandrebastarache4395 Жыл бұрын
anyone can ship anything in any shipping container on any of these ships
@jjr1728
@jjr1728 Жыл бұрын
You need to mind your own business, Greg. Regards, from Canada.
@yeetyeet7070
@yeetyeet7070 Жыл бұрын
@@alexandrebastarache4395 lol
@yeetyeet7070
@yeetyeet7070 Жыл бұрын
@@purchiks1 lol
@yeetyeet7070
@yeetyeet7070 Жыл бұрын
@@jjr1728 are you all paid by the balkan gang? xD
@northerncaptain855
@northerncaptain855 Жыл бұрын
Amazing story. I’ve sailed as Captain on merchant vessels for decades, I can’t imagine any operation where the ships cranes were repeatedly used at sea that would not have come to my attention. Incidentally the eight crew arrested would be about one third of the total crew.
@edhardy7210
@edhardy7210 Жыл бұрын
There is no doubt that the Captain was not also aware.
@e-curb
@e-curb Жыл бұрын
You have to sleep sometime.
@154g
@154g Жыл бұрын
There is the small crane by the gangway on some vessels. Used maybe for liferafts
@gasboydiffa2300
@gasboydiffa2300 Жыл бұрын
Typical captain thing to say, trust me they dont know everything thats going about on 'their' vessels
@154g
@154g Жыл бұрын
Stern crane capt, can easily be used while the capt sleeps.
@paranoidhumanoid
@paranoidhumanoid Жыл бұрын
Every interviewee has said in this video that law enforcement barely makes a dent in their operations on this protracted and futile "war on drugs", so that demonstrates it clearly is a complete waste of time and resources, not to mention the safety of those involved. 🤷‍♀
@simrdownmon6431
@simrdownmon6431 Жыл бұрын
Both the DEA and the drug Cartels depend on the drug war to survive. End The Drug War NOW!!!!
@decwow
@decwow Жыл бұрын
It's not a war on drugs. It never was. It's a war on small time drug dealers that aren't giving the big players the cut they want. Even busts like this are just a hiccup. You let these go from time to time to give the gullible public the impression that something meaningful is being done.
@andyb619
@andyb619 Жыл бұрын
Your comment is absolute rubbish. Disrupting the drug trade is essential to slowing it down. You clearly do not see the children going hungry because of drugs, the mental health impacts of drugs. It ruins families, lives, and society. We need a World War on drugs. This doesn't mean filling prisons with little guys. It means disrupting, and destroying organisational heirachy, globally.
@AnhNguyen-hn9vj
@AnhNguyen-hn9vj Жыл бұрын
It is a drug war. It is just not the way you think. Many countries with government sponsor drug dealing on other unfriendly countries. These other countries sponsor drug dealing back on other countries. They are selling drugs back and forth to each other unfriendly countries. lol It is just drug everywhere.
@leivinpavon9648
@leivinpavon9648 Жыл бұрын
@@decwow The U.S spends 150 billion on illegal drugs annually this really was just a small dent ..
@McShag420
@McShag420 Жыл бұрын
"We can only scan 1.5% of containers. We find tons, but it amounts to 0." Exactly. The drug war is pointless and costs taxpayer money. Legalize, regulate, tax and stop all this violence associated with illegal trade.
@Greenfield-yf1wh
@Greenfield-yf1wh Жыл бұрын
Legalization means that drug dealers would have to pay taxes. Why pay taxes when they could just continue to smuggle drugs until the gov't gvies up on chasing after durg dealers.
@dre2407
@dre2407 Жыл бұрын
@@Greenfield-yf1wh People would prefer to buy it legally rather than risking a huge fine or not having the quality guarantied.
@Greenfield-yf1wh
@Greenfield-yf1wh Жыл бұрын
@@dre2407 No people prefer to buy drugs cheaper. There will always be a market for that.
@juliuswolf288
@juliuswolf288 Жыл бұрын
@@Greenfield-yf1wh why would u buy drugs off a drug dealer instead of buying a cleaner product for the same price off a govermantely regulated or owned business?
@Greenfield-yf1wh
@Greenfield-yf1wh Жыл бұрын
@@juliuswolf288 You are missing the point. It won't be the same prices since drug dealers will continue to smuggle drugs that won't be regulated and taxed. They will undercut the stores that would sell regulated & taxed narcoticss. There always be a market for cheaper drugs.
@HE-162
@HE-162 Жыл бұрын
It’s almost as if a legalized, regulated drug market would be the only safe way to successfully fight this problem.
@richardponsford5147
@richardponsford5147 Жыл бұрын
If only.
@russell6075
@russell6075 Жыл бұрын
That would make to much sense
@Turdfergusen382
@Turdfergusen382 Жыл бұрын
Then how will we fund our wars. Not like to public gonna support them
@chrisr4220
@chrisr4220 Жыл бұрын
The argument against this says if these players are already acting illegally now, they won’t act legally if made legal. I’m sure they said the same thing about the legalization of alcohol - try telling that to the $1.5 trillion dollar industry now.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisr4220 re: alcohol prohibition - we've already been there, done that, we know how it goes
@dimitargerov3139
@dimitargerov3139 Жыл бұрын
Only the little guys get sent to jail. Brendo (one of the biggest) got sentenced to a lifetime in Italy, then extradited to Bulgaria and went missing .. having enough money can pay off. Those salary based people can always be bought .
@vitovitovito
@vitovitovito 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget that Credit Suisse frontman got arrested for laundrying Evelin's money haha pozdravi
@markozdravkovic8382
@markozdravkovic8382 8 ай бұрын
0:50 Little Back Story to this Video. 01.01.2018, Belgrade, Serbia. On the video, a man belonging to an enemy clan is executed. He was driving the car. It is interesting to know that there was a policewoman in the passenger seat and she was not injured. More than a dozen bullets hit the man. He died on the spot.
@AwokenEntertainment
@AwokenEntertainment Жыл бұрын
this is probably only a small percentage that's known about..
@BrianMartensOfficial
@BrianMartensOfficial Жыл бұрын
All of this effort and they admit "the effect is 0".
@alexnewbold8823
@alexnewbold8823 Жыл бұрын
i would like to be the first to congratulate drugs on winnning the war on drugs.
@vincentanguoni8938
@vincentanguoni8938 Жыл бұрын
@@alexnewbold8823 ouch!
@Gamer-nc8qp
@Gamer-nc8qp Ай бұрын
they should just leagalise and tax it imho
@vitkomusic6624
@vitkomusic6624 Жыл бұрын
In 1980 cartels declared they do this. Woman in 2022: we discovered......
@augustasmateliunas9333
@augustasmateliunas9333 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@augustasmateliunas9333
@augustasmateliunas9333 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@augustasmateliunas9333
@augustasmateliunas9333 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@boobasile5935
@boobasile5935 Жыл бұрын
Right.. video games in the 80s were all about this stuff. 🤣 🤣
@karenfay4545
@karenfay4545 Жыл бұрын
I have US MMC for Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E. I can say integrity of a ship begins with the integrity of the crew and paying them a fair wage. Hiring crew from a region in economic collapse, rife with criminal activity and corruption all the way to the top because you can pay them ¢ on the $ is a recipe for trouble. Hire crew to have a career that give them incentive NOT to risk loosing it all over engaging in these activities even if they are not caught doing it by law enforcement ie intergrity. That would be cheaper than throwing money at Gestapo security. Mark Fay MMC Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E
@filipvlahek3515
@filipvlahek3515 Жыл бұрын
Tru dat
@srambrero
@srambrero Жыл бұрын
thinking that organized crime and corruption is somehow linked just to countries and sailors on boats from economically weaker regions is naive....there is no money ship crew can get paid that aint gonna seem like peanuts compared to drug money, plus these sailors get forced and blackmailed into doing this, its not like the mafia just asks them nicely and stops their operations and leaves if they say no...dont be naive
@karenfay4545
@karenfay4545 Жыл бұрын
@@srambrero having been a professional Merchant Marine mariner far and away this happened where the crew permitted this to go on aboard. I even had it happen on a US Navy Frigate I was on in the 70s until an honest E3 sailor became aware of a peer’s Tai Stick smuggling scheme with the Collusion of the E6 Master at Arms and told the Captain. If I had become aware of it I would have done the same thing. I have seen merchant crews from mostly smaller lines with crews using MSC crewing policies and foreign jails are full of them. BTW MSC also stands for the US Navy Military Sealift Command, the 2 should not be confused.
@AdamFreeman-ix6ez
@AdamFreeman-ix6ez Жыл бұрын
Can you answer in more detail?
@karenfay4545
@karenfay4545 Жыл бұрын
@@AdamFreeman-ix6ez what details are you looking for? Mark Fay MMC Jr. Engineer QMED AS-E
@Rs73Rs
@Rs73Rs 11 ай бұрын
The most common drug smuggling is done on super yachts. Customs officials rarely check them due to worries of being sued by rich owners. The majority of these arrive in Gibraltar to fuel/unload and money is exchanged and laundered there.
@mujtabaalam5907
@mujtabaalam5907 2 ай бұрын
How is money laundered there? What's the claimed legitimate source?
@KrisRoberts114
@KrisRoberts114 Жыл бұрын
The vast cost of the "war on drugs" simply isnt worth it
@BuckingHorse-Bull
@BuckingHorse-Bull Жыл бұрын
there is no war on drugs. Its just an excuse to militarize local police
@michaelcre8
@michaelcre8 Жыл бұрын
Nixon was a Crook. The drug war was designed to be evil. Addiction is a psychological problem similar to depression. It would be cheaper to treat it like that again. The drug war was designed to funnel immense cash flows to smugglers especially the intelligence community. That obviously sounds like a baseless conspiracy theory to most people, but anyone who knows even a little history knows that's exactly what the Iran Contra Affair was. Why would they ever stop doing that when it gives them unlimited funding for whatever they want?
@bebobism
@bebobism Жыл бұрын
But what happens if you leave them alone ? . . . The drug cartels grow out of control and then what ?!
@KrisRoberts114
@KrisRoberts114 Жыл бұрын
@@bebobism Portugal is a fair example of what happens when you legalise drugs🤷‍♂️
@dfsilversurfer
@dfsilversurfer Жыл бұрын
How much money they must spend and wasting on their war on drugs . What if they put that money into health, jobs and education..there would be less incarcerated and better off.
@anonimushbosh
@anonimushbosh Жыл бұрын
All the money it costs to police drug trafficking, plus the related crime costs, and health costs, and welfare costs... It'd be cheaper for govts to buy all the drugs straight from the traffickers.
@4Everlast
@4Everlast Жыл бұрын
😂👏 Well CIA was selling it in the 70-80's, you think other governments aren't doing that? We're being F in every way.
@usmans9274
@usmans9274 Жыл бұрын
so whats your solution for drugs?
@alethiosoratos5455
@alethiosoratos5455 Жыл бұрын
You are missing the real benefits to the elites. The additional crime justifies having a large militarized police force and it justifies unconstitutional laws like RICO, search, and seizure laws. This creates a standing army that can be turned on the people on a moments notice. IT IS ABOUT CONTROL.
@MrOlgrumpy
@MrOlgrumpy Жыл бұрын
@@usmans9274 Like some sensible countries,maximum penalty,capital punishment !! no repeat offenders.
@mustangracer5124
@mustangracer5124 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure most get a big cut of the action
@Ozmourne
@Ozmourne Жыл бұрын
No one talks about how much of the confiscated drugs go back into the market via the anti-narcotics authority themselves
@chrissknutson
@chrissknutson 7 ай бұрын
Great job reporting this story.
@jeanlefranc3817
@jeanlefranc3817 Жыл бұрын
What is quite telling about today’s drug issue is that, while the US Government is going the quick and easy way of seizing a large asset from a company, nobody is tackling the real problem of drug producing and usage. Which means nothing will change. MSC will book a $100 M loss, and smugglers will carry on with their business.
@SPACECOWBOY_Hej
@SPACECOWBOY_Hej Жыл бұрын
Its a geopolitical question, the US government doesn't have jurisdiction in other countries, and if other countries have weak, incompetent or corrupt cops then what are they gonna do? Invade? pay another country for their policing? like come on
@jeanlefranc3817
@jeanlefranc3817 Жыл бұрын
@@SPACECOWBOY_Hej send the CIA and get the job done.
@ryurazu
@ryurazu Жыл бұрын
700 million fine as well
@ivanhere6292
@ivanhere6292 Жыл бұрын
war on drug is a lucative business for the US they are not in thier best interests too solve the root of the evil ..really when there is no demand there is no supply ..
@Thegerceklershow
@Thegerceklershow Жыл бұрын
How do you think your government officials with a salary of 1 milion a year, go to having 400 milion a year wealth while in office. Organised crime just does the dirty work of your government my friend. Where your government cant be seeing doing things.
@anantpanicker
@anantpanicker Жыл бұрын
In the shipping community MSC has always been known as the Mafia Shipping company
@randyhome1544
@randyhome1544 Жыл бұрын
Just look at it as natural selection. Not everyone uses drugs.
@jewslikefunk
@jewslikefunk Жыл бұрын
Really? And why hasn’t there been unanimous consent among nations / regulators to take action on them?
@julaingallimore7152
@julaingallimore7152 Жыл бұрын
. KC Lawyer Roberson has Written a Book about the Vatican Banking industry ,, The Vatican Bank has a history of Corouption and it's male staff are protected by Diplomatic immunity ,, has seen on TV . Don't ask me Google the TRUE FACT Yousef ,, in my opinion and belief.
@bootcizme1124
@bootcizme1124 Жыл бұрын
You beat me to it 🤣
@raimondsstokmanis1892
@raimondsstokmanis1892 Жыл бұрын
@@jewslikefunk Because they are in on it.
@klubstompers
@klubstompers Жыл бұрын
"We take narco trafficking seriously" "We seriously make millions from it each year" MSC
@liamdunn7278
@liamdunn7278 Жыл бұрын
“Of course, I’m not even Greek”
@dinow1990
@dinow1990 Жыл бұрын
Years after the wire taps the Greek is still in business
@philippetrounev611
@philippetrounev611 Жыл бұрын
Nothing changed 😂
@gramozgashi
@gramozgashi Жыл бұрын
Albanian
@BatkoNashBandera774
@BatkoNashBandera774 3 ай бұрын
Slovene@@gramozgashi
@funksioni1689
@funksioni1689 3 ай бұрын
They were albanians oo amigo
@The_HouStoner
@The_HouStoner Жыл бұрын
I used to work at the Port of Houston as a cargo puller/checker, primarily loading cargo vessels. It wasn't too uncommon to have a vessel's loading process "frozen" until the DEA or Port Authority performed a random search bc of anomalies in an x-ray or a tip from an informant.
@154g
@154g Жыл бұрын
Does every incomming container get xrayed? If so, why would they try if so?
@samplastik13
@samplastik13 Жыл бұрын
@@154g as stated in video, most of containers aren't
@dmd2030
@dmd2030 Жыл бұрын
@@154g 1%
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
@@154g most ports have one x-ray machine..used for both in and outbound..a singke vessel can be discharging 100s or more containers esp at final port on its voyage
@luismontes4142
@luismontes4142 Жыл бұрын
Gta online sell MC product.
@andrewradford3953
@andrewradford3953 Жыл бұрын
This gets hilarious. They were fined less than 10%. Authorities seem to think there were only 8 people directly involved, and the company knew nothing. Gold!
@riskinhos
@riskinhos Жыл бұрын
they didn't. it's no benefit to them.
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
Authorities think..more like what they could evidentially seek to prove
@murrayterry834
@murrayterry834 Жыл бұрын
laws do not apply to large central bankers did the product end up on the streets of Philadelphia after the federal marshals turned over custody to offset the financiers losses
@aquelpibe
@aquelpibe Жыл бұрын
It´s not what they think, it´s what they can prove. That´s how it works. And the amount of the fine is determined by law.
@infoloopgraaf7937
@infoloopgraaf7937 Жыл бұрын
MSC was probably created for the sole purpose of smuggling.
@JWCYOUTUBE
@JWCYOUTUBE Ай бұрын
Best video I’ve watched on YT for a looooong time! This was so interesting.
@rickadrian2675
@rickadrian2675 Жыл бұрын
These massive companies have massive infrastructure and systems in place to manage cargo, staffing and logistics. If they all risked a $600m US fine per ship, the solutions would be found pretty quickly.
@jeremiasrobinson
@jeremiasrobinson Жыл бұрын
First she said the fine was $1000 per once and then she said the fine is $1000 per kilo. Get your story straight!
@somethingsomething404
@somethingsomething404 Жыл бұрын
Right is it 18M or 600 million lol
@sondrejohansen48
@sondrejohansen48 Жыл бұрын
@@somethingsomething404 20 tonne is not 20 kilo…
@somethingsomething404
@somethingsomething404 Жыл бұрын
@@sondrejohansen48 true, I realized that shortly after then couldn’t find the comment to fix it. 18M roughly then
@jeremiasrobinson
@jeremiasrobinson Жыл бұрын
@@somethingsomething404 The excessive exaggeration goes well with the theme of this thread though, so, 600 million is perfect!
@JJRossi
@JJRossi Жыл бұрын
I came on to make the same comment about the ounce-kilo lol. Kinda a big difference :p
@birarakisarap
@birarakisarap Жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Biggest shareholder of MSC is JP Morgan and probably world of finance is financed by drug money.
@BuckingHorse-Bull
@BuckingHorse-Bull Жыл бұрын
the 2008 market crash. The only way we survived it was because of drug money
@scottheaton8469
@scottheaton8469 Жыл бұрын
Further plot twist: shipping is very vulnerable to bureaucracy, as the lockdowns taught us. Someone can profit from slowing it down. This is likely being played both ways.
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
Finance involves trillions daily moving..drugs trafficking is big but not bigger than the global licit economy
@birarakisarap
@birarakisarap Жыл бұрын
@@vanpallandt5799 yet it can provide you a lot of money if you are in margin call.
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
@@birarakisarap there was a world of finance before drugs came along for most of globe in 70s. The problem for a lot of LE ppl is they have no idea of the size of the ocean that financial movements take place in..hence anyone with a big house or a sports car must be involved in crime etc *btw i have neither
@the_officials38
@the_officials38 2 ай бұрын
4:35 He's saying it no filter nor mince words, respect to the honesty
@kenbrager4475
@kenbrager4475 Жыл бұрын
That was a well thought out and presented video. Thanks
@virgo8606
@virgo8606 Жыл бұрын
So the captain wasn't involved as he was mostly on his tea breaks while docking the ship in the middle of the sea at night. Hmmm that sounds credible
@rightbehindu571
@rightbehindu571 Жыл бұрын
Next time drink black coffee throughout the day instead of a lousy tea and cookie break lol
@greezythumb
@greezythumb Жыл бұрын
Tea breaks in the middle of the night? I sleep in the middle of the night. I'm willing to say the captain probably does also. Sure he could have been in on it, he may not have been on it. It's not needed for him to be in on it for it to get done.
@AB_Deck
@AB_Deck Жыл бұрын
@@greezythumb he was being facetious duh
@jfbeam
@jfbeam Жыл бұрын
There was no "docking". A smaller boat came along side and the crew hoisted drugs onboard. The ship did not slow down or change course. Unless you were on the bridge, or near where this was happening, you'd never know about it. (The captain has to sleep, too.)
@itsmewill8725
@itsmewill8725 Жыл бұрын
@@jfbeam or have the plausible denied ability to denie you was evolved, I.e. I am the captain I have to sleep some time 😇
@Nickfromcali
@Nickfromcali Жыл бұрын
*DON'T THINK FOR A SECOND THE HIGHER UPS IN THE SHIPPING COMPANY WERE UNAWARE... LOOK INTO THEIR BACKGROUNDS AND EARLY LIVES*
@Pizzafan622
@Pizzafan622 Жыл бұрын
lol no
@stargazer3364
@stargazer3364 Жыл бұрын
Wayyy higher ups. The little smuglers end up dead or in prison for life for trying to get a piece of the pie. Big brother is in control.
@nategalt5613
@nategalt5613 Жыл бұрын
Early lives? What do their lives as kids have to do with this?
@Nickfromcali
@Nickfromcali Жыл бұрын
@@nategalt5613 We're just looking for patterns
@nategalt5613
@nategalt5613 Жыл бұрын
@@Nickfromcali such as? What do their childhoods have anything to do with anything?
@patrec7638
@patrec7638 Жыл бұрын
More evidence that this sort of sophistication requires involvement of massive corporations, banks and governments to go unnoticed.
@Gatecrasher1
@Gatecrasher1 Жыл бұрын
Amazing reporting! Absolutely riveting
@bobcrip9816
@bobcrip9816 Жыл бұрын
I learned a lot about the shipping industry through The Wire (Best show ever) thank you wre!!!
@IbangedYaMama
@IbangedYaMama Жыл бұрын
So basically shipping companies should do the job of law enforcement agencies and bear all the expenses of it while governments collect money in fines & forfeitures from these companies when they fail to prevent drug smuggling. Yup seems fair.
@josegonzalez6004
@josegonzalez6004 Жыл бұрын
No but it’s there responsibility to now was getting loaded and unloaded of there ships.
@Alexander-cg1ey
@Alexander-cg1ey Жыл бұрын
No it's not, there should be more international cooperation and shared responsibilities at every step of the way.
@tsak912
@tsak912 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fair. Their ship, their containers, their contraband, their responsibility.
@RAT7163
@RAT7163 Жыл бұрын
Haha you thought you had something there. Yea, companies should be held responsible for allowing their enterprise to be used as drug mules.
@Juggermerk
@Juggermerk Жыл бұрын
Well you missed the part that multiple government agencies enforced the law and arrested charged and successfully locked away the criminals responsible. I don't remember the part where MSc locked anyone up for shipping drugs....must've missed that /s
@carlislepanting5219
@carlislepanting5219 Жыл бұрын
Belize central america I'm from and 1 thing i know is that the WAR on DRUGS is a lost battle because too much drug consumers worldwide and too much hard core distributions
@joshuajones634
@joshuajones634 Жыл бұрын
Shocking I would have never thought the shipping industry.
@the_magic_max9491
@the_magic_max9491 Жыл бұрын
"The definition of insanity is: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." ~ Albert Einstein The war on drugs has failed! Prohibition doesn't work! Legalize it!
@Kenoshino
@Kenoshino Жыл бұрын
MSC forgot to pay the CIA their cut :(
@tethron.
@tethron. Жыл бұрын
This was very interesting, great piece of content here.
@ML-lg4ky
@ML-lg4ky Жыл бұрын
Excellent reporting!
@artimkalash3347
@artimkalash3347 Жыл бұрын
Every Balkan person, watching this video to see if their country gets mentioned
@dennynikaj
@dennynikaj Жыл бұрын
Montenegro is doing this, wow.
@naopak6750
@naopak6750 Жыл бұрын
Actually its Albanians from Albania and Kosovo doing all that. Montenegro just provides some logistics.
@dennynikaj
@dennynikaj Жыл бұрын
@@naopak6750 it is Montenegro, and Montenegrins as the video said, also the Montenegrin boxer, do not make things up!
@artimkalash3347
@artimkalash3347 Жыл бұрын
@@naopak6750 it’s Albanian, it’s Serbs, it’s Romanians, they don’t really care about Nationality anyways
@jerrydrake4652
@jerrydrake4652 Жыл бұрын
strange that only one person is mentioned ... wonder what is the nationality of other 7?? Anyone wanna guess ...
@Paul-dv4dr
@Paul-dv4dr Жыл бұрын
When I was in Iquique, Chile, 4 years ago there were groups of guys getting ready round small boats as the sun set to go out and do a "bit of fishing" but they rarely seemed to catch much, though they did have some cash to spend in the bars but they lived in shacks. Pretty sad when that is all life can offer, and dangerous too.
@predragnicic7138
@predragnicic7138 Жыл бұрын
Those Montenegro guys provide Cash in 90s smugling cigarets to ltalia. In city of Bar, biggest mn harbor l wach from balcony crazy fast boats coming in and out...
@AB_Deck
@AB_Deck Жыл бұрын
@@predragnicic7138 Bari ?
@predragnicic7138
@predragnicic7138 Жыл бұрын
@@AB_Deck Bar-Bari yeah, one mourning august 99 on a way to Coffee we meet group of 150-200 gipsies also from Kosovo. They told us paying to go to ltaly. Next day 75 of them lost life on open sea. Few years ago case closed. Kids, woman... There was all kind of crimes
@valideno9592
@valideno9592 Жыл бұрын
@@AB_Deck BARI - City in Italy. BAR - City in Crna Gora/Montenegro. Both cities are coastal.
@silverianjannvs5315
@silverianjannvs5315 Жыл бұрын
​@@predragnicic7138 do you have this kind of problems before the breakup of the Yugoslavia?
@HoustonsPsychicMedium
@HoustonsPsychicMedium Жыл бұрын
Great work!
@1959Berre
@1959Berre 9 ай бұрын
Amazing how this Belgian customs officer is the spiting image of the actor Martin Ferrero, who played the role of Izzy Moreno in Miami Vice. Even his voice sounds alike.
@FlowerPower1000
@FlowerPower1000 8 ай бұрын
There is no way on earth MSC was unaware of what was going on on their vessels. These companies have always been the willful enablers for the right amount of money. On the flip side though, I think it is fair to say that to an extend, they are not responsible to confront traffickers. I do understand that once you get involved in this sort of business, they will make an offer you won’t be able to refuse.
@Miscelanou
@Miscelanou Жыл бұрын
A simple solution to this one problem is livestream cameras sending live footage (also recorded) to multiple locations to be stored separately Skim footage, if ships come near, see what containers do not belong via footage If the cameras get taken out use prior footage to compare the x Before and after of the containers
@barbarafogle3541
@barbarafogle3541 Жыл бұрын
If the cops, customs agents, and even the military weren't in on it it wouldn't work. This goes all the way up to the chiefs, CEO, generals and even the president.
@bodybuilderslave7125
@bodybuilderslave7125 Жыл бұрын
What's the big guy's cut?
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit Жыл бұрын
that's not true at all. but conspiracy nuts love to prattle on in the comments. the truth is the government is incompetent. always will be.
@desmond-hawkins
@desmond-hawkins Жыл бұрын
16:08 - 20 tons * $1,000/oz (and not "per kilo" as mistakenly said) is $640 million.
@whatta7793
@whatta7793 Жыл бұрын
Not getting sold by the ounce though. Probably more like $15k per kilo wholesale, then sold down again for $30k per kilo, and then that's when it gets cut, and sold by the ounces to the smaller street dealers. Cartel Distributors Street Dealers Low Level Street Dealers, if you buy from this source, chances are you're getting product around 50% pure if you're lucky, and paying the biggest premium around $100 a gram, and/or around $250 an eight ball, when you can probably get PURE product in the country of origin for $2-10 a gram depending on your connection in the country of origin.
@Chrissmills
@Chrissmills Жыл бұрын
@@whatta7793 in Australia it’s $350/gram and lucky to get it at 40%
@desmond-hawkins
@desmond-hawkins Жыл бұрын
@@whatta7793 This is about the fine, not the sale of drugs. A kilo where I live goes for $27k-$30k, or so I heard. If you buy a single gram it'll be more like $80.
@EvolveFiRE
@EvolveFiRE Жыл бұрын
Usually, some journalists May round the number out, to make it easier on the ears and to remember, rounding up or down.
@j4sho748
@j4sho748 Жыл бұрын
@@Chrissmills holeeeey
@michaelleonard4826
@michaelleonard4826 11 ай бұрын
It shouldn't take a genius to figure out, a company based out of Switzerland, took a short time to get to #1. Can you find the owners, not,!
@Aniket2712
@Aniket2712 2 ай бұрын
18:26 ... pretty fair point
@nfsfreak951
@nfsfreak951 Жыл бұрын
as long as supply and demand exist, there will always be drug trafficking, this will never stop.
@osbjmg
@osbjmg Жыл бұрын
We could just end prohibition.
@quazar5017
@quazar5017 Жыл бұрын
MSC has headquarter in Switzerland So the largest shipping company in the world sits in a country with no coast. Very unsuspicious, lol.
@gnek9494
@gnek9494 Жыл бұрын
They're based in Geneva. One of the biggest/oldest commodities trading hub in the world.
@simongreenthumb6376
@simongreenthumb6376 Жыл бұрын
What a massive waste of taxpayers money fighting drugs! Tragic
@thrdlanerob
@thrdlanerob Жыл бұрын
i work in ports and it’s crazy i work with msc containers / see msc ships on a daily, pretty crazy knowing this shipping company is known as the “ mafia shipping company “ 😂
@jayo552
@jayo552 Жыл бұрын
OWNED BY JPMORGAN BUT THEY WONT SAY
@suckmeaballZ
@suckmeaballZ 2 ай бұрын
You'll never see your job the same again 😂
@dahasolomon7314
@dahasolomon7314 Жыл бұрын
This is like charging an airline for having a customer with drugs in his luggage. It doesn't sound fair
@verysmallcats1374
@verysmallcats1374 Жыл бұрын
Problem is that they've had so much time to fix it and did absolutely nothing about it
@dahasolomon7314
@dahasolomon7314 Жыл бұрын
@@verysmallcats1374 yeah but 7 containers out 4000. It's not the companies fault that most countries lack the infrastructure to scan all those containers. This fine wouldn't have happened to them of they where an American company.
@ElementsMMA
@ElementsMMA Жыл бұрын
High quality documentary. Well worth watching.
@Torttelini1
@Torttelini1 Жыл бұрын
This just basically shows that no matter what you do to forbid something, the black market will go to unimaginable lengths to provide it, and that there is nothing that can be done against it, but one thing: Legalizing the forbidden substance. Just like alcohol prohibition... The solution is in plain sight, although the implementation can be quite difficult since its with many substances and the potential dangers for the population by making this decision. But even arguing that, someone that wants to consume, will go lengths to consume.
@trevortalbot4325
@trevortalbot4325 Жыл бұрын
These governments are quick to charge MSC but I doubt they would hold their own port authorities to the same level of accountability.
@adblocker276
@adblocker276 Жыл бұрын
Lots of collaborators working for the port in Antwerp were arrested in a bust.
@trevortalbot4325
@trevortalbot4325 Жыл бұрын
@@adblocker276 Yeah for sure, but those are just individual people. I'm talking more about cooperate entities/regulatory bodies. They charge MSC 600 million for being complicit in something they weren't even involved in because they failed to recognize it. But that US port is ultimately the one that sent those thousands of tons of drugs to Antwerp with a big bow and ribbon on it. They were the last green light and like MSC, failed to recognize the hidden cargo; by their own standards they are also complicit by failing to recognize their own American ports just sent drugs to Europe, but I don't think they are going to charge themselves 600 million dollars for their own oversights. (Even though they had many.) I'm just living in a fantasy world :)
@TheLukasDirector
@TheLukasDirector Жыл бұрын
@@trevortalbot4325 Spot on. That's the US federal government for you.
@BlackHoleOfTime
@BlackHoleOfTime Жыл бұрын
Well you see it is so much easier to act like your doing something going after the company, like they have time to go after the cartels.
@okeefer2000
@okeefer2000 Жыл бұрын
What about the U.S. Postal Service? They are used by criminals to ship drugs all the time. Aren't they culpable like the U.S. government says MSC is, in this case?
@An_Attempt
@An_Attempt Жыл бұрын
The US post is highly protected legally. It has a long history of not opening letters or packages in transit to maintain the trust of the citizenry.
@alcoyne3333333333333
@alcoyne3333333333333 Жыл бұрын
Agree I've always said the US mail is shipped drugs daily
@bujfvjg7222
@bujfvjg7222 Жыл бұрын
@@An_Attempt moot point...
@BuckingHorse-Bull
@BuckingHorse-Bull Жыл бұрын
drug money is not going anywhere. to much money to be made to dissolve
@yadisfhaddad722
@yadisfhaddad722 Жыл бұрын
Legalize, regulate, tax, improve working and paying conditions for workers, improve quality for consumers, treat consumption as a public health issue. This will continue to be a futile war otherwise.
@AwareWolf97
@AwareWolf97 10 ай бұрын
The biggest problem is that drugs are still illegal. So much money goes into those operations but it will never stop the use of drugs. Drugs are so spread throughout all layers of society. Also it shouldnt be the task of any government to decide what im allowed to put into my body or not.
@evancrosley2857
@evancrosley2857 8 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more.
@tonylyons2414
@tonylyons2414 Жыл бұрын
Something like this will never be stopped
@hafzalak
@hafzalak Жыл бұрын
I like how he said , it was only 7 out of 4000 containers 😅🤣😂
@okairo
@okairo Жыл бұрын
Apparently he doesn't know just how much those containers can hold, nor to smuggle decently that yes, only a fraction of the containers (7 in this case) is only going to take up a tiny fraction so it passes customs with as little issues.
@skys6655
@skys6655 Жыл бұрын
Like in accounting, to beat the irs, you gotta give a lil something
@simrdownmon6431
@simrdownmon6431 Жыл бұрын
Both the DEA and the Cartels depend on the drug war to survive. End The Drug War NOW!!!!
@BigLO-rn7rj
@BigLO-rn7rj Жыл бұрын
@@skys6655you said it best you gotta give them a lil something that way you could do your thing however you want to
@thelmacummings425
@thelmacummings425 Жыл бұрын
Sad.
@Shazzadut1
@Shazzadut1 Жыл бұрын
I read about this. MSC said they knew nothing about the drug smuggling. How did MSC suddenly get all the money to expand their fleet so quickly? Thats what I’d be asking. Cartel investment?
@linanicolia1363
@linanicolia1363 Жыл бұрын
Some of these smugglers get creative.....unbelievable....It is a game of cat versus mouse. Does not seem to be possible to control it. Just amazing.
@ahmadalzlfawi4026
@ahmadalzlfawi4026 Жыл бұрын
Love the storytelling, production and everything in the documentary, please make more of it
@icxcnika555
@icxcnika555 Жыл бұрын
So basically shipping companies are shipping drugs 😂 who would of thought
@yourlifestyleelevated2015
@yourlifestyleelevated2015 Жыл бұрын
Same thing here. If they knew about this one, the bigger ones were NOT caught.
@bryanlr
@bryanlr Жыл бұрын
@@yourlifestyleelevated2015 facts
@Lucasxd331
@Lucasxd331 Жыл бұрын
@@yourlifestyleelevated2015 but they can't risk using this shipping method for a while now, that's how it works. Drugs will find their way through other means for a couple of years until this case cools down enough and they can use MSC's ships again.
@dostijem5118
@dostijem5118 Жыл бұрын
all big companies doing something illegal behind the scenes and the success its always there u can't be successful if u don't cheat to ur best friends or family even if u sell drugs
@BuckingHorse-Bull
@BuckingHorse-Bull Жыл бұрын
@@Lucasxd331 its the same thing for legit companies after thier suppliers reaise prices.
@tommytunes303
@tommytunes303 Жыл бұрын
Great piece, happy to see my friends at Bloomberg killin' it! Love the quick aspect. As intrigued as I was, I don't want to hang around for an hour (for anything) 😂
@Ryans-Relatable-Rants
@Ryans-Relatable-Rants 5 ай бұрын
Could they not mount some form of x ray device that scans the container- to the lift of the cranes when moved from the exiting port to ship, and ship to arrival port? Taking x-rays images to overlay Maybe include some A.I that can detect differences between the images and flag them for human inspection?
@nsp477
@nsp477 Жыл бұрын
"We do not have the infrastructure to scan all the containers". That sounds like whoever decides which containers get scanned is taking home an extra paycheck.
@clownworld5474
@clownworld5474 Жыл бұрын
You don't say
@charlessmith3940
@charlessmith3940 Жыл бұрын
Lol they don’t. No port can scan everything. They don’t have the time, man power, or technology to scan every shipping container. They ended up catching the ship in this story from a tip. Expecting them to scan every container, every time would be like saying a train needs to scan every inch after each stop along it’s route. It’s impossible.
@pvdppvdp6638
@pvdppvdp6638 Жыл бұрын
There is not a single port in the world that has the means to scan EVERY container going through.
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm Жыл бұрын
So next time an US shiping company would be found out to transport tons of cocoain it will be ok for EU law enforcement to fine them with millions. Got it.
@MrSupergibs
@MrSupergibs Жыл бұрын
Yeah right... somehow there's only one country whose law has an uneven reach around the world.... yep, you know!
@mig7290
@mig7290 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. The world's sheriff. They're even entrapping African and Caribbean officials in far fetched trafficking schemes that would never have happened. Always the same modus operandi. Colombian DEA CIs who can walk the walk who entice them. Like they got Vitkor Bout.
@mikegaskin5542
@mikegaskin5542 Жыл бұрын
US doesn’t have any shipping companies
@kuebby
@kuebby Жыл бұрын
You're posting like European nations are upset about this...
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm Жыл бұрын
@@kuebby My thought was rather coming from thinking of times when european nations tried to actually go against US companies criminal actions and were shut down. So with this now, should make that more acceptable in the future, right?
@cherilynnfisher5658
@cherilynnfisher5658 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@adnantariq3346
@adnantariq3346 3 ай бұрын
What brilliant journalism
@bc-guy852
@bc-guy852 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Fabulous production, coverage and analysis. A riveting story; this is just the preface I think, to perhaps a whole new era in shipping in general and large TEU carriers in particular. Drug lords - versus high tech crime fighters... to be continued.
@raylopez99
@raylopez99 Жыл бұрын
Check out the book "Dead in the Water" on a true story involving the Greek mob and insurance fraud.
@jarnomikkola8438
@jarnomikkola8438 Жыл бұрын
This is easy to fix, you legalize the drug, and then set the government to use the tax money gained from it to side steps the problems it causes. Rather than let it fester in the flesh of the carcase, draining resourses that should be used for objectively better utility.
@madhadder6754
@madhadder6754 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure when they find drugs it's not by the organization that's controlling the drug trade but by anyone else that is trying to get in on the market
@thensaiswatchingtoo2977
@thensaiswatchingtoo2977 10 ай бұрын
Not once did you say the vessel was owned by JP Morgan...
@jeremyhill4078
@jeremyhill4078 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the Mob Reporter to do his version of this case! That fella knows what he is doing!
@xxalmightyxx2304
@xxalmightyxx2304 Жыл бұрын
Let me tell you about it. It all started with.....🤣
@petergambier
@petergambier Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. It certainly makes you think about the sheer quantity of cartel product being shipped around the globe 24/7 and how the authorities cannot possibly check everything because they're simply overwhelmed by containers and without snitches we probably wouldn't know the half of it. Also, under US drug laws they can keep the assets like cars, guns, shipping containers and whole ships if it's part of a drug bust, so MSC will probably lose the vessel.
@modtwentyeight
@modtwentyeight Жыл бұрын
Price of doing business - make it up in a month.
@greezythumb
@greezythumb Жыл бұрын
@@modtwentyeight if not a week
@simrdownmon6431
@simrdownmon6431 Жыл бұрын
Both the DEA and the drug Cartels depend on the drug war to survive. End The Drug War NOW!!!!
@jayo552
@jayo552 Жыл бұрын
ITS OWNED BY JPMORGAN, THEY DOIN A GREAT JOB OF NOT MENTIONING IT
@petergambier
@petergambier Жыл бұрын
@@jayo552 it's amazing how much those tossers got away with, especially Mr Richard Fuld, aka, the Gorilla. This former investment bank CEO hated people so much he even had his own lift to take him to his top floor office.
@VinhTran-rr9zr
@VinhTran-rr9zr Жыл бұрын
so much effort....
@joefield
@joefield Жыл бұрын
Fines have no effect as long as container lines can name their price and pass any loss on to the shipper (and thus the consumer). I would argue it actually has the opposite effect because the increased container shipping rate or surcharge will have some element of profit built in.
@dickiesdocos
@dickiesdocos Жыл бұрын
Likewise, If a crew from a commercial airline company was caught importing drugs, would their plane be seized? I don't think there's a carrier who hasn't encountered this problem in the past. Taking an aircraft under forfeiture laws seems pretty extreme to me.
@cyrilio
@cyrilio Жыл бұрын
It is and should be illegal. Forfeiture laws are inhumane.
@alcoyne3333333333333
@alcoyne3333333333333 Жыл бұрын
If that happened half the police cars in the US would be Seized for transportation of drugs 👍
@honkhonk8009
@honkhonk8009 Жыл бұрын
@@alcoyne3333333333333 bro confused the US for mexico
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
@@cyrilio it is legal and should be done more. Companies should be made more responsible. Given the way that drugs groups work, forefeiture etc is often the only effective tool as obtaining direct evidence to have a criminal trial can be nigh on impossible
@vanpallandt5799
@vanpallandt5799 Жыл бұрын
@@alcoyne3333333333333 thats transportation in course of LE activity..just as a police or customs officer can be in posession of drugs or paedophile material lawfully in the execution of their duties
@Joker-no1uh
@Joker-no1uh 9 ай бұрын
As long as something is ILLEGAL and 20 percent of the population uses them, they will never be able to stop it. There is just too much money involved for an average person to not risk it. People are going to do what they want if it's illegal or not. When has that ever stopped making money?
@seangleason8674
@seangleason8674 Жыл бұрын
From philly, loved on Hartfanft St in south philly (very close to the packer terminal) and I remember when this happened, the city was abuzz about it
@idkidk8278
@idkidk8278 Жыл бұрын
17:22 They are not at fault. Is what you're saying is they need to do the police work. That they should spend boat loads of money on keeping drugs out (making all shipping more expensive or get under cut). That they should say no to mafia and risk their families. It's quite interesting that some people think the war on drugs is winnable.
@ReaperKing705
@ReaperKing705 Жыл бұрын
yeah, they admitted that the government cant process and check all the loads but somehow MSC must be able to do so? ridiculous...
@small3687
@small3687 Жыл бұрын
@@ReaperKing705 it's a reasonable expectation. They are one shipping company and they need to be responsible for what's on their ships. They are also only responsible for their ships. The government is responsible for spot checking ALL ships. MSC is probably in bed with cartels and making death and destruction possible. I mean how hard is it to lock the crane out from operation at night? You mean to tell me their systems don't log anything like hours of operation? I think a lot of drugs can be decriminalized and regulated and people should be better educated on them. MSC needs to pay for their part in violated the country's laws.
@hmalik5232
@hmalik5232 Жыл бұрын
@@small3687 How are they responsible for ‘death and destruction’? It’s just coke, not nuclear warheads😂.
@ReaperKing705
@ReaperKing705 Жыл бұрын
@@small3687 yeah you right, MSC should impose reasonable measures to reduce risk but you cant scan every single container that will restrict supply lines and certain items such as food etc as they cant be stagnant for a long period of time. end of the day for drug smugglers there will always be another way, another ship another port. This is just a symptom of the issue, if USA wanted to resolve this issue they would be taking an approach such as how Portugal has handled its drug problem, That is a construction solution as you mentioned. Seizing ships, no no... soon you going to have shortages because no1 will be willing to import stuff to you in fear of losing ships. That's my prediction.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 Жыл бұрын
@@small3687 "it's a reasonable expectation" LOL, sure, if you don't know anything about shipping I guess maybe it is...
@hiufgterde
@hiufgterde Жыл бұрын
There are countless ports in Europe where the goods come in. And people in the ports are in on it. What would you do if you get a visit one day and basically have to decide between a bullet or getting rich. So they knwo which containers they have to pass through, completely avoiding any security system. They need to get rid of human intervention in the ports
@Fenrasulfr
@Fenrasulfr 2 ай бұрын
The standard should become that the shipping companies become responsible for the illegal goods. They should get crippling fines with every seizure. I am sure these companies will start solving the problems real fast.
@thr9449
@thr9449 8 ай бұрын
Technology should be updated so the scanning can happen while the containers are in transit on the ships.
@lo2740
@lo2740 25 күн бұрын
it is not possible nor practical to scan containers, there is just too many and it is a continuous flow, otherwise it would have been done since a long time.
@rikkertbatzback1816
@rikkertbatzback1816 Жыл бұрын
Monenegro? Really? You should actually look into the US colony right next door called Albania.
@lagjescuni5482
@lagjescuni5482 Жыл бұрын
Rikkert Batzback...yes Monenegro why are you acting like you don't know that Monenegro was a serbian colony up until 2006, instead Serbia is a Russian colony since the 19th century...these Russian colonies have a great mafia tradition which began after the Second World War
@lagjescuni5482
@lagjescuni5482 Жыл бұрын
Rikkert Batzback...however, Albania has never been anyone's colony lool ..before the 90s, Albania did not even have diplomatic relations with the USA or with the USSR...Albania unlike other Balkan countries even in the Ottoman period has always been governed and inhabited by ethnic Albanians not by turks....
@marklutz95
@marklutz95 Жыл бұрын
So the first officer of the ship did all this without the captain knowing about it. If that guy eventually became a captain, think about how much more damage he would have done.
@MagnokTheMighty
@MagnokTheMighty Жыл бұрын
No wonder there was such a massive shipping shortage. Smh.
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