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@sshurmatz
@sshurmatz 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about pro bowl safety Donnie Shell who went undrafted in the same year, and was signed by the Steelers as a free agent.
@Musicvidsetc
@Musicvidsetc 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! I never thought about that. I think Donnie Shell, if you look at his overall career, should be given serious consideration for the HoF. (FYI: I'm not a Steelers fan.)
@ghostintheshell3576
@ghostintheshell3576 5 жыл бұрын
All time leader in interceptions for safeties didn't even know that yo
@swaggleboon
@swaggleboon 5 жыл бұрын
@@ghostintheshell3576 He's not, though? Paul Krause was a safety and is the all-time leader in INTs. Darren Sharper and Ed Reed also played their whole careers at safety and finished with more INTs.
@ghostintheshell3576
@ghostintheshell3576 5 жыл бұрын
@@swaggleboon oh could have sworn it was him my bad still should be in the HOF tho
@randyreno7118
@randyreno7118 5 жыл бұрын
He ended up being the last of them I think to still be playing. I know Stallworth and Lambert were still around till 87 I think
@supbrad13
@supbrad13 5 жыл бұрын
Chuck Noll is the most underrated coach of all time
@mathewtorres1283
@mathewtorres1283 5 жыл бұрын
Eazy E he was the bill belicheck of the 70s the same type of attitude only Chuck smiled more
@Monk-Amani.
@Monk-Amani. 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think so.
@rkid727
@rkid727 5 жыл бұрын
He’s not. He gets his proper due. He was the greatest coach of the 70’s.
@ericjackson7632
@ericjackson7632 2 жыл бұрын
@@rkid727 I think Tom Landry is elevated more than Chuck. Never hear a lot of GOAT consideration. I hear Belcher, Lombardi, Shula, and Landry and rightfully so. Guys like Chuck are left out at times. Like he's never number 1 on anyone's list.
@19EHF
@19EHF 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated? Hes a top 5 coach of ALL time and in the Hall of Fame. What person with even a low football IQ would underrate Chuck Noll
@andraethegiant1987
@andraethegiant1987 3 жыл бұрын
You got to give it to Bill Nunn for putting together one of the greatest dynasties of all time!
@scarbourgeoisie
@scarbourgeoisie 2 жыл бұрын
I discovered the Steelers as an 11 year old in Toronto in 1975. I wasn’t a drafted fan, but rather a walk on and I have never looked backed. My timing was perfect to witness one of the greatest NFL dynasty’s in history as a team admirer.
@67marlins
@67marlins 11 ай бұрын
I became a Steeler fan about the same time.....as a 10 year old in 1977. But I also liked the Dolphins and admired the Houston Oilers as long as they had Coach Phillips. Did you have any secondary favorites?
@yankees29
@yankees29 3 жыл бұрын
Lambert was small but what he lacked in size he made up for with pure ferocity. Dude was a tackling machine.
@roshango125ab
@roshango125ab 5 жыл бұрын
In the pre salary cap era, you needed to be perfect in the draft to be a dynasty, the Steelers where able to keep the team together and nobody was able to grab a Deion Sanders or Reggie White free agent to challenge them with
@troysmith958
@troysmith958 5 жыл бұрын
Those were the days teams could stay successful for a longer period of time back then.
@brucelee6834
@brucelee6834 5 жыл бұрын
Aaron Beaulieu yep, tho it’s harder to stay a dynasty in the modern era, that’s why there really are no dynasties in the 21st century except the patriots.
@nevio2658
@nevio2658 5 жыл бұрын
@@brucelee6834 And that's because they have 2 goats at 2 of the most important positions; head coach and quarterback. Also their owner is very good at what he does.
@quanbrooklynkid7776
@quanbrooklynkid7776 5 жыл бұрын
@@nevio2658 right
@RobD-jq7ry
@RobD-jq7ry 5 жыл бұрын
@@nevio2658 dont forget their amazing scouting footage they magically obtain right before the game which show the other teams exact gameplan!! 😎🤔
@jjgrey1488
@jjgrey1488 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Webster would be played by the actor David Morse in the 2015 movie Concussion...his portrayal and story are heartbreaking and tragic...happy to hear Curt Gowdy anytime...
@stinkbandit
@stinkbandit 5 жыл бұрын
1:12 It always makes me laugh when they portray the NFL in the 70's. There's always a lit cigarette in an ashtray, bottle of booze with appropriate drinking glass, and all in a room full of smoke.
@erikthorsen240
@erikthorsen240 5 жыл бұрын
They don't TRY to. That's the way it was!
@nathanielriesterer9103
@nathanielriesterer9103 5 жыл бұрын
In the grocery store in line waiting to get checked out people would be lighting up all the time.
@georgeyounts9391
@georgeyounts9391 5 жыл бұрын
In Walter Payton's biography- Sweetness. They talk about how in the early 70w some players smoked in the locker room during half time.
@gemcityconnection3304
@gemcityconnection3304 5 жыл бұрын
What an exciting life you must lead.
@j-fpilote1576
@j-fpilote1576 5 жыл бұрын
After drafting 4 future HOFers, Donnie Shell and Randy Grossman as free agents...
@zyxwut321
@zyxwut321 5 жыл бұрын
Randy Grossman is one of the best examples in NFL history of an overachiever maximizing his talent by being in the right place and situation at the right time. At the bottom of the barrel in terms of size, strength and athleticism for NFL tight ends even of that era he wouldn't have MADE most NFL teams except for ONE key attribute, his hands. He was one of the first pass catching tight ends in NFL history and though his numbers were relatively modest he could be counted on for tough catches at important times, especially in the short passing game. He helped invent the modern tight end position as a receiving position first.
@mcdonoghrahloh459
@mcdonoghrahloh459 2 жыл бұрын
@@zyxwut321 Clutch Grossnan
@haroldmccoy6748
@haroldmccoy6748 Жыл бұрын
#45 Jimmy Allen ,4th rd pick in 74 ,was a solid football player ,as a rookie he replaced a struggling Mel Blount in the 74 conference championship game because Blount was uncustomarily getting touched by Clift Branch .Jimmy Allen's insertion inthe starting lineup was crucial ,his excellent gelling with the Steelers cover two scheme contributed to Branch not reaching the end zone again ,pivotal in Pittsburgh's upset victory of the raiders . He unfortunately was a part of the 77 group who were so dissatisfied with current contracts walked off team during regular season ,then returned following week ,those lockeroom divisive forces were caste off of the Steelers roster after 1977 , coincidentally the Steelers captured SB era records 3 and 4 SB trophy's 🏆,and also became the first and still to this day only team to repeat twice as SB champ's,they also set a AFC conference record by making post season 8 consecutive years . Jimmy Allen had a good NFL career . Allen's best seasons at Detroit , he had 6 and 9 ints, finishing his career with 31 ints .He's seen often in NFL films Steelers season highlights on sidelines engaging in celebration, in 74 he's shown on sidelines exchanging gleeful conversation with Lynn Swann about Pittsburgh going to Oakland for conference championship game as countdown of STEELERS playoff victory over bills commences , and jovial exchange with Dwight White and Donnie Shell on sidelines in countdown of STEELERS victory over Vikings in SB 9 .
@crosshairshadow
@crosshairshadow 5 жыл бұрын
Jack Lambert, possibly the greatest middle linebacker ever. Lynn Swann and John stallworth broke the mold for what a receiver was. And the best center in 85 years of steelers history. Yeah steelers put in a cheat code for that draft.
@brucelee6834
@brucelee6834 5 жыл бұрын
crosshairshadow lol what? He is amazing, but perhaps third after Butkus and Lewis?
@crosshairshadow
@crosshairshadow 5 жыл бұрын
@@brucelee6834 Lewis might be but i think lambert is better than Butkus.
@crosshairshadow
@crosshairshadow 5 жыл бұрын
@@brucelee6834 LT is number 1
@josephcousley9307
@josephcousley9307 5 жыл бұрын
@@crosshairshadow Lambert was great but Butkus was in a league of his own Jack Ham was arguably better than Lambert
@crosshairshadow
@crosshairshadow 5 жыл бұрын
@@josephcousley9307 Ham was an outside linebacker
@jasontimms6456
@jasontimms6456 5 жыл бұрын
Man that hit Bradshaw took in this video was nasty!!
@angelmatos9143
@angelmatos9143 5 жыл бұрын
One of the better sports videos on KZfaq
@redpepperdave
@redpepperdave 5 жыл бұрын
It's always a pleasure to see how much better protected QB's and WR are now...man all those crazy hard hits to the head is just insane, much respect to all those modern day great gladiators who paved the way.
@KeithFroehlich07
@KeithFroehlich07 Жыл бұрын
They don't even talk about Jimmy Allen who was picked before Webster. He left the Steelers after winning two rings then went to the Lions, he was very good for them. His career ended early, but his playing days in Detroit just enhanced that class even more. Charles Davis was a defensive tackle they took in the ninth round and after spending one season with the Steelers and winning the ring he went to the Cardinals and started the next four years for them.
@sshza11
@sshza11 5 жыл бұрын
7:25 '...And Lambert works him over.' Great quote.
@quietcorner293
@quietcorner293 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I just looked it up. There were four future Hall of Famers in one draft for one team. Yep the Steelers really hit the lottery here.
@captainspartan04
@captainspartan04 5 жыл бұрын
In case y'all wondering here's that legendary draft built 1979 Steelers roster 1967 undrafted -Sam Davis 1968 16th round - Rocky Bleier 1969 1st round- Joe Greene 3rd round- Jon Kolb 10th round- LC Greenwood 1970 1st round- Terry Bradshaw 3rd round- Mel Blount 1971 2nd round- Jack Ham 4th round- Gerry Mullins 4th round- Dwight White 5th round- Larry Brown 11th round-Mike Wagner (Note Ernie Holmes was selected in the 1971 draft Round 8 but was already retired by 1978 with his last season being played at New England) 1972 1st round- Franco Harris 5th round- Steve Furness 1973 1st round- J.T. Thomas 8th round- Loren Toews 1974 1st round- Lynn Swann 2nd round- Jack Lambert 4th round- John Stallworth 5th round- Mike Webster Undrafted- Donnie Shell Undrafted- Randy Grossman 1975 Undrafted- John Banaszak 1976 1st round- Benny Cunningham 2nd round- Mike Kruczek 4th round- Theo Bell 6th round- Gary Dunn 6th round- Jack Delopaine 1977 1st round- Robin Cole 2nd round- Sidney Thornton 3rd round- Tom Beasley 3rd round- Jim Smith 4th round- Ted Petersen 5th round- Steve Courson 5th round- Dirt Winston (note: Tony Dungy went undrafted in 1977 and was picked up by the Steelers. Chuck Noll told him that they were converting him to safety. Tony previously played quarterback. He won the 1978 Superbowl with the Steelers and then was traded to San Francisco. After the 1979 season he got traded again to the New York giants. This time he didn't make the opening day roster and announced his retirement. He became a coaching assistant at University of Minnesota. When Tony was hired in Pittsburgh in 1984 he became the youngest assistant coach in NFL history. He was only 25.) 1978- 1st round- Ron Johnson 3rd round- Craig Colquitt (Yes he's the father of Britton and Dustin Colquitt. 2 current NFL punters. As Britton is the punter for the Browns and Dustin is the punter for the Chiefs.) 4th round- Larry Anderson 8th round- Rick Moser 1979- 1st round- Greg Hawthorne 2nd round- Zack Valentine 6th round- Dwayne Woodruff 6th round- Matt Bahr 8th round- Tom Graves Undrafted- Thom Dornbrook Undrafted- Anthony Anderson (No not the actor Anthony Anderson)
@Musicvidsetc
@Musicvidsetc 5 жыл бұрын
1980 - 1st round- Mark Malone Oh wait...
@thefriendlygamer2221
@thefriendlygamer2221 5 жыл бұрын
@@Musicvidsetc hey, he ain't Terry or or Ben but I am sure he was good
@Musicvidsetc
@Musicvidsetc 5 жыл бұрын
@@thefriendlygamer2221 Biggest mistake in Chuck Noll's career: Not drafting hometown hero Dan Marino in '83 - Terry Bradshaw's last year. The Steelers had some formidable teams in the last decade of Noll's career, but they always lacked a good QB.
@lurchlogan
@lurchlogan 5 жыл бұрын
Are you sure it wasn't Anthony Anderson the Actor ??... I like the image of Anthony Anderson on the sideline in a clean uniform,always on the bench & never playing but making everyone laugh!! 😅😅
@captainspartan04
@captainspartan04 5 жыл бұрын
@@lurchlogan I looked it up and sadly it's not the actor. Just a running back from temple that lasted 2 seasons. Although he's in the temple hall of fame
@spencerallbritton9459
@spencerallbritton9459 4 жыл бұрын
If only my fantasy drafts could go this good.
@Biggdoom344
@Biggdoom344 2 жыл бұрын
It’s now 5 . Donnie Shell, a FA who was a LB in college converted to SS. That will never happen again. It’s the NFL equivalent of hitting powerball twice. They also got CB Jim Allen and TE Randy Grossman.
@1978Trevino
@1978Trevino 4 жыл бұрын
Donnie shell free agent rookie signing in 74 too. Greatest NFL team draft ever
@jadentrez
@jadentrez 4 ай бұрын
It's true that one of Noll's greatest assets was that, having been with Cleveland, San Diego and Baltimore, he knew what championship teams were supposed to look like and play like. He knew the kind of personnel you needed. And on top of that he and the Steelers had great scouts who would go around to all these little-known schools and find players like Greene, Stallworth, Lambert, et al. It was like a hidden gold mine of talent because most other teams just looked at the traditional big schools like UCLA, Notre Dame and Penn State. However, by the 1980s, the secret was out so the Steelers had a harder time snapping up those unknown talented players because the rest of the league was in on it too.
@robertaswanson9438
@robertaswanson9438 2 жыл бұрын
And now you can add a 5th Steeler to be enshrined in the PFHoFame from that draft. Although Donnie Shell was undrafted, '74 was his rookie season along with Swan Jack Stallworth & Iron Mike!
@debaserdeducer4555
@debaserdeducer4555 5 жыл бұрын
There's something about USC players and the Steelers! Great outcomes.
@ghostintheshell3576
@ghostintheshell3576 5 жыл бұрын
That's Tru we usually get great players out of USC
@emilys.7953
@emilys.7953 3 жыл бұрын
Who else besides swann and polamalu?
@perryellis1423
@perryellis1423 Жыл бұрын
@@emilys.7953 Two hall of famers what else do you need
@67marlins
@67marlins 8 ай бұрын
Another tip of the cap to Coach Noll AND his staff for recognizing talented, young, DESERVING athletes who just needed a chance..... The result was All-Pros, who elevated their families, modest schools, and their own good names.
@yoboypizza9092
@yoboypizza9092 5 жыл бұрын
The steelers got 4 out of the 5 hall of famers in that draft
@MrJLov13
@MrJLov13 5 жыл бұрын
Really, it should be 5 Hall of Famers. Because Donnie Shell was just as good as those other guys and had just as successful a career. It really a crime against nature that he's not in the Hall of Fame, and even my mother thinks he should be in the HOF, and she's a Ravens fan who absolutely hates the Steelers.
@johnnypastrana6727
@johnnypastrana6727 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrJLov13 Agreed, Shell was a tremendous HOF player...
@norman9291
@norman9291 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrJLov13 Agreed. And L.C. Greenwood should be in the hall too even though he was drafted in a different year
@elwin38
@elwin38 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrJLov13 Donnie Shell is in the hall of fame now.
@patrickreidy7420
@patrickreidy7420 10 ай бұрын
The lambert story is EPIC a player diving on asphalt nuff said lol
@KeithFroehlich07
@KeithFroehlich07 Жыл бұрын
The fortunes of the Steelers changed when they hired Mr. Nunn because he was a sports writer of a black newspaper and he had access to the game films of all these small black colleges because he would use them to pick his small black college All-Star Team and publish it in his paper for his readers every year. As bad as the Chief was in running the Steelers before Chuck Noll arrived hiring Bill was the best move they made before Dan hired Chuck.
@jefferytokarsky1930
@jefferytokarsky1930 Жыл бұрын
!!! Yes, when you look at the Super Steelers, he was a key reason for their success. I never heard about him until Gary Pomeranz’s book “Their Life’s Work”. He’s not unsung, but he doesn’t get enough credit.
@gagetoth9817
@gagetoth9817 5 жыл бұрын
Chuck Noll is a beast who sure can draft
@brucelee6834
@brucelee6834 5 жыл бұрын
Gage Toth Belichick is a better drafter
@evolutionworld24
@evolutionworld24 5 жыл бұрын
bruce lee absolutely not. Belichick is a better coach but not drafter.
@cheesybeaver5573
@cheesybeaver5573 5 жыл бұрын
bruce lee lmao that comment actually made me chuckle, Patriots haven’t used any of their rookie players for the past 5 years. They normally end up getting cut before the season even starts
@davestuddaman8127
@davestuddaman8127 5 жыл бұрын
Mel Blunt is an awesome fkn name! Can’t believe I’ve never heard of him before
@randyreno7118
@randyreno7118 5 жыл бұрын
The Mel Blount rule of 78. No contact of receiver after 5 yards. He just went from mauling wide receivers to intercepting passes 😂 one of the biggest and nastiest corners ever
@davestuddaman8127
@davestuddaman8127 5 жыл бұрын
Randall Reno he sounds gnarly as fk! 😂
@salsagardens9570
@salsagardens9570 5 жыл бұрын
It's astonishing what can be accomplished with out an AL DAVIS " MY TEAM " in the room!!! I can't count the drafts he burned and what I learned was" nostalgia" is a real winch and will slap ya into reality real quick, so you can imagine what I felt when Mark Davis signed John Gruden again.......crazy to think next year CARR will be gone and then we'll have to wait a year or two to see what come from that particular player.......no wonder it's a ten year proccess for Oakland.........the're trying the Steelers- Patriots way!!! I just wish Gruden didn't go through more QB's than a cheerleader!
@adamevans998
@adamevans998 2 ай бұрын
Swann & Stallworth both wore #22 in college. I think that's cool!
5 жыл бұрын
my America. Love it.
@joeterzio7175
@joeterzio7175 5 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest here. The reason why the Steelers were able to get such great value on obviously superior talent in the draft is because a lot of NFL teams in the early 1970s still refused to select black players, or at the least, take too many black players. Noll was hired after he was asked if he was willing to draft black players. When he said he had no problem with that, it sealed the deal. The Steelers were drafting against few other teams NFL who put a priority on drafting black players, many from small black universities.
@susanfarbacher8861
@susanfarbacher8861 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Terzio you might be right here. But they were do so much because of it.
@srj34
@srj34 5 жыл бұрын
Well, teams that drafted with racial prejudice were pretty easy to spot: start at the middle of the standings and look down. Which is what makes racism not only wrong, but stupid from a business standpoint.
@saytr4
@saytr4 5 жыл бұрын
I think you just want to do some moral posturing and don't really know what you're talking about.
@joeterzio7175
@joeterzio7175 5 жыл бұрын
@@saytr4 I've been a Steelers fan for over 40 years and can remember what college all of their great old players went to. There's no moral posturing. The Steelers weren't afraid to take talented black players when other teams were and that helped them immensely in creating the greatest football dynasty of the 1970s. They also had a secret weapon in Bill Nunn, who was a writer for a black Pittsburgh newspaper, the Pittsburgh Courier. He published a list of black college All-Americans since the 1950s and the Steelers hired him as a scout. He knew all the coaches at all the historically black colleges and could get access to scouting reports and film that other NFL teams couldn't. The Steelers draft room today is named after him.
@joeterzio7175
@joeterzio7175 5 жыл бұрын
@@susanfarbacher8861 I'm not disagreeing. I'm a longtime Steelers fan and am very happy that they found such great talent that other teams ignored because of their race.
@thejoker1699
@thejoker1699 5 жыл бұрын
If only the Steelers drafted like that in this era 🤦‍♂️
@mathewtorres1283
@mathewtorres1283 5 жыл бұрын
Jose1213 C HACKER they do
@duskthunder9274
@duskthunder9274 3 жыл бұрын
They still draft very well
@virginianative847
@virginianative847 9 ай бұрын
And since then Steelers are still drafting great. We draft WR unlike any other team.
@impalas1966
@impalas1966 5 жыл бұрын
I love these nfl film videos, upload more 49ers ones 😭☝🏼
@matt-pv8yc
@matt-pv8yc 5 жыл бұрын
Yess go niners
@ConorC917
@ConorC917 5 жыл бұрын
Niner nation!!!
@haroldmccoy6748
@haroldmccoy6748 Жыл бұрын
4 round selection ,jersey #45:Jimmy Allen was also a good football player ,playing his first 4 years in Pittsburgh, finishing his career with 31 ints ,he's often seen on the 74 Steelers season highlite ,celebrating with teammates Dwight White, Lynn Swann, and Donnie Shell on the sidelines during the final moments of the Steelers 74 post season victories .He replaced Blount in the 74 conference championship game as a rookie , after Blount routinely gave up enormous yds to raiders wr Clift Branch ,he obvious with assistance from the safeties did a pretty good job , Steelers won the game .
@607rocket
@607rocket 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing D line all from little known schools.
@bodontknowsuperbowl
@bodontknowsuperbowl 5 жыл бұрын
The Chiefs had a pretty good draft in 1963 with Buck Buchanan, Ed Budde, Bobby Bell, Jerrel Wilson, and Dave Hill. Of course they had a lot more picks.
@kareemjohnson8059
@kareemjohnson8059 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Nunn could've been GM of alot of teams if only he wasn't black. Ozzy Newsome speaks highly of Bill because he had a knack for measuring a guys heart not his stats...
@fredkruse9444
@fredkruse9444 5 жыл бұрын
As a Browns' fan, this is just sickening. Lambert, for example, played about 30 miles from Cleveland. Drafting 6 picks before the Steelers took Lambert, the Browns selected O tackle Billy Corbett, who never played in an NFL game.
@syrpitt
@syrpitt 5 жыл бұрын
thats the Browns being the Browns
@uscgbmcmretired2490
@uscgbmcmretired2490 Жыл бұрын
70's Steelers are the Greatest Team in NFL History and here's where they added half of their 10 Hall of Famers! Donnie Shell also arrived in 74 as an undrafted safety!
@williampowell3378
@williampowell3378 Жыл бұрын
This could be a HULU documentary.
@Avendale
@Avendale 5 жыл бұрын
At 6'5'' and 208 lbs Lambert was slender, but he could hit like a ton of bricks
@MonsterMeatMac
@MonsterMeatMac 5 жыл бұрын
At 6'5, 208 Lambert would've never survived today like most of the players in the 60s and 70s
@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw
@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw 5 жыл бұрын
Marty Wormuth yes they would. They weren’t exposed to the training or nutrition the players have today
@erikthorsen240
@erikthorsen240 5 жыл бұрын
@@MonsterMeatMac Not a Steelers fan, but sometimes those players showed something special.
@itslebowsk9770
@itslebowsk9770 4 жыл бұрын
That’s 5 hof
@milart12
@milart12 Жыл бұрын
03:07 Love the low-tech draft. It was probably state of the art at that time.
@billt8504
@billt8504 5 жыл бұрын
I'm probably wrong, but not only did the Steelers get 4 HOF'ers in a single draft, I am pretty sure no one else ever got 3. I'm sure there's a few teams that got 2 (like Ravens in '96 with Ogden and Ray-Ray.) Most teams year in year out don't draft any future HOF'ers. Kudos Steelers scouts of the '70's.
@paulmicheldenverco1
@paulmicheldenverco1 5 жыл бұрын
Part of the philosophy was to keep the video of John Stallworth. That's how they knew he'd still be available when they took him. He could have been a higher draft pick elsewhere and had made more money. But the money is fleeting and he'd probably rather have the four rings.
@MrPerfesser
@MrPerfesser 2 жыл бұрын
John did quite well for himself, and is, today, a part owner of the team. He is a beloved figure both in Pittsburgh and in Huntsville.
@AbzanLux
@AbzanLux 8 ай бұрын
They probably won't mention that they got the idea of looking at smaller colleges from Tom Landry
@1983jblack
@1983jblack 2 жыл бұрын
I would still lobby for L.C. Greenwood in the HOF and then that about covers it for the Steelers of the '70s. I would like to see Andy Russell but I just don't know that he had enough credentials despite being a 7 time Pro Bowler. Dwight White, Glen Edwards, and Mike Wagner didn't have a long enough period of excellence to even be considered for HOF and ditto goes for the offensive side of the team not in.
@randyreno7118
@randyreno7118 5 жыл бұрын
Legendary
@1983jblack
@1983jblack 2 жыл бұрын
They managed to get Stallworth by "misplacing" the film on him when someone else asked for it. Imma Steelers fan all the way but that strikes me as funny. They mentioned "When we find it we'll get it to you right away"
@Cloudy1127
@Cloudy1127 5 жыл бұрын
@7:05 The Steelers 4th Super Bowl happened in 1980
@randyreno7118
@randyreno7118 5 жыл бұрын
79 season but super bowl was Jan 80
@jock124578
@jock124578 5 жыл бұрын
is there a name for the song that plays starting at 7:37 ?
@nickpeterson8080
@nickpeterson8080 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@brendanbugala8774
@brendanbugala8774 10 ай бұрын
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STEELERS💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤
@202One
@202One Жыл бұрын
Go Black&Gold..💣💛
@aking2330
@aking2330 5 жыл бұрын
Wish athletes today showed more love to hbcu
@tryingtolearn2876
@tryingtolearn2876 Жыл бұрын
I delivered news papers to a few of the older steelers when I was young, Cliff Stout was Cool. He only got the Saturday paper. If he was home when I was delivering he would come out with ice tea or lemonade and we sit on the steps in between the 2 sets of townhouse buildings there were and drink our drinks and bullshit for awhile. They were all pretty cool. Banasak lived with other steeler, can't remember who, but after the superbowl against the rams they came out with poster and signed football. I got all excited cause I thought I was getting them both but they gave me the team poster and both autographed it by their picture and when I went get the ball he told me it was for ( can't remember her name) the girl that lived above them. She was Hot blonde. Damn, I wanted the ball so I was little disappointed. I think it was banasak, and once again can't remember the other guy, that was the tool it took on me, I really wanted that ball. I think I even asked him if I could have it instead of poster but he told me it was for the girl. Don't blame him now that I'm older, she was hot in a natural way, not trying to be but was. But back then I was 14 or 15 I think and felt like he did wrong not giving me the ball and giving it to a "girl".
@stardaddyo9
@stardaddyo9 5 жыл бұрын
What a draft
@williamdavidcraigjr7841
@williamdavidcraigjr7841 3 жыл бұрын
Randy Grossman TE went undrafted too
@DJR.Productions
@DJR.Productions 5 жыл бұрын
7:09 what is that instrumental???
@jock124578
@jock124578 5 жыл бұрын
Dude it took me so long to find it but its from "Where Legends are Made" by David Robidoux, about halfway through the song
@jock124578
@jock124578 5 жыл бұрын
Actually at about 0:45
@DJR.Productions
@DJR.Productions 5 жыл бұрын
James Hibbert Thanks man it took me forever to find that song and here it is now thanks
@johncaparulo4800
@johncaparulo4800 5 жыл бұрын
So why exactly is Pittsburgh’s deviant activity surrounding Stallworth’s college film looked back on as cute and mischievous gamesmanship? If Bill Belichick pulled something like that today, there’d be a congressional hearing about it.
@jadentrez
@jadentrez 5 жыл бұрын
Well, the game is a lot more scrutinized nowadays than it was back then. A lot more media outlets too, not to mention social media.
@rpeace05ify
@rpeace05ify 5 жыл бұрын
Steelers still pull guys from smaller schools. Especially love MAC guys now.
@BigBlack81
@BigBlack81 5 жыл бұрын
After hearing about this, I fault Jimmy Johnson a little bit LESS for doing what he did with Herschel Walker. I have to. This was brilliance on the part of the Steelers, and I think a lot of people who were/are still salty about the Cowboys in the '90s should see this and realize that Jimmy was just dragging the Cowboys into the modern era with what he did. Not a fan of either team I am, but it just occurred to me that underhanded stuff to get players in the draft was being done by ALL teams. Period. Still is. And probably will always be. The Steelers holding onto film of a player just so they could draft him...merely following in the footsteps of other great teams and great scouting departments.
@RobD-jq7ry
@RobD-jq7ry 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure that's underhanded at all. You got the film why give it to anyone else?
@BigBlack81
@BigBlack81 5 жыл бұрын
@@RobD-jq7ry Fair play and due diligence, no competitive advantage, etc. But that might be me being a bit too...liberal, I guess. If the other teams didn't put in the time and effort the Steelers did, who's to say they didn't do anything but good due diligence?
@ReindeerFive
@ReindeerFive 5 жыл бұрын
@@BigBlack81 what is underhanded about that? Were the Steelers supposed to contact all the other NFL teams and say here's the film of guys you've never bothered scouting and have no interest in?
@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw
@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw 4 жыл бұрын
The raiders were before the Steelers in terms of targeting southern college
@cxc001
@cxc001 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever
@shakeandjake_1
@shakeandjake_1 3 жыл бұрын
Steelers basically went nuclear and had the best haul of all time
@drianna171
@drianna171 5 жыл бұрын
I want a full video
@ChickenChowMein77
@ChickenChowMein77 3 жыл бұрын
Okay yeah... But what's the jam playing from 4:15 until 5:07 ?
@membersonlydave
@membersonlydave 5 жыл бұрын
John Dorsey and the Cleveland Browns.
@ihaveasmallpenis2484
@ihaveasmallpenis2484 5 жыл бұрын
Nah you guys think you are Superbowl contenders with just Odell and Kareem hunt remember this Odell has past injuries Wich it could affect him and Kareem hunt has player concerns
@LukeA_55
@LukeA_55 5 жыл бұрын
3:59 kinda wish I lived back when u were allowed to do that.
@osu5inarow
@osu5inarow 5 жыл бұрын
Chuck Noll: Can we draft Stallworth yet? Pittsburgh War Room: No Chuck not yet. Chuck Noll: You guys suck, I bet Dallas would let me draft Stallworth
@jeffhufana2389
@jeffhufana2389 5 жыл бұрын
PITTSBURGH STEELERS LET'S GO
@tryingtolearn2876
@tryingtolearn2876 Жыл бұрын
With these steelers their talking about and others that came from other unknown schools, I'm just wondering, If the steelers didn't draft them would they been drafted by other teams or would they never played in the NFL???
@thomascharles44
@thomascharles44 5 жыл бұрын
This Steeler team was also the first to systematically implement the use of anabolic steroids as a team. Fact.
@gemcityconnection3304
@gemcityconnection3304 5 жыл бұрын
True they always seem to forget that all those players were jacked up on steroids and their competition wasn't.
@DynomyteDewd91
@DynomyteDewd91 4 жыл бұрын
Pittsburgh wasn’t the first team. A few teams started doing roids in the 60s and became more apparent in the 70s onward. Roid usage on the Steelers roster was relegated to the O-line, the defense and skill positions didn’t indulge. However, there’s been documented evidence that San Diego, Buffalo, Oakland, Dallas, and Denver we’re all using, maybe even more teams. It wasn’t illegal at that time either, but it’s still around pro football today.
@duskthunder9274
@duskthunder9274 3 жыл бұрын
@@gemcityconnection3304 actually their competition was idiot many teams have gotten caught with steroid use during the 70s and '80s
@Wedarealsinnas
@Wedarealsinnas Жыл бұрын
so you think the steelers was the only team on steroids🤦🏾‍♂️
@nolanchen1876
@nolanchen1876 3 жыл бұрын
Who was first Steeler HOF player drafted AFTER 1974? Rod Woodson in 87?
@nolanchen1876
@nolanchen1876 3 жыл бұрын
A long drought after 74.
@ivanlowjones
@ivanlowjones 23 күн бұрын
Dermontii Dawson, Troy Polamalu, Alan Faneca, and soon to be Ben Roethlisberger.
@TAXENGINEER
@TAXENGINEER 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Webster RIP
@VerveQuest-zc4ri
@VerveQuest-zc4ri Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they'd had a 3rd pick
@markabbazia2339
@markabbazia2339 5 жыл бұрын
So they kept footage on a player under wraps so only they could draft them imagine trying to pull that in todays nfl if it happened to the pats they’d get a slap on the wrist and pats fans would act like martyrs
@syrpitt
@syrpitt 5 жыл бұрын
NE would get 2 more draft picks
@erikthorsen240
@erikthorsen240 5 жыл бұрын
Funny!
@CJinsoo
@CJinsoo 9 ай бұрын
Interesting video, but I don’t see anything in it, or from the draft results for the whole NFL from 1974, that suggested Pittsburgh prevailed because they focused on small black colleges. Small black colleges were already known to produce outstanding players. Just look at the top 5 picks in the 1974 draft for example, 2 were from Tennessee St. You also have quite a few players from small black colleges in the first 3 rounds, and some were complete busts, too, just like from other colleges. Lambert, Webster, and Swann did not attend small black colleges either. The video doesn’t say anything to me about Pittsburgh’s approach, except that they got incredibly lucky. One thing interesting is that they pulled in these future HOF players while using picks in the lower half of the rounds. NFL penalizes success through lower drafting position, so it is harder to maintain, so that aspect is impressive. But how was it achieved? it seems like luck is the best answer. Next year, my team the Bears, continued their success from smallblack colleges, by drafting Walter Payton (previous years they got Waymond Bryant and Wally Chambers). But this wasn’t a special strategy, it was primarily because the Bears sucked and picked at higher draft positions.
@1USACitizen192
@1USACitizen192 5 жыл бұрын
What happened in the 80s?
@syrpitt
@syrpitt 5 жыл бұрын
the 49ers
@duskthunder9274
@duskthunder9274 3 жыл бұрын
Bradshaw got hurt
@haroldmccoy6748
@haroldmccoy6748 Жыл бұрын
Poor drafting philosophy procedures ,didn't adapt accordingly ,became stuck in antiquated ideals pertaining towards evaluating talent ,when the rest of the division adjusted . A complete reversal of the 70's draft and coordinators coaching hire protocol of new ,updated formatts to assists traditional technique and values . They literally became a exact archetype of what they pledged not to follow during the 70's , Nolls former 70's success caused him to become stubborn ,unrelenting in his stance ,Dan Rooney gave Noll a unconditional ultimatum after 1988 or he would be terminated ,fire some of his assistance ,Noll actually relented ,before giving in . Rooney admitted he hated doing it ,and he prayed Chuck Noll didn't force his hand .
@robertpaige4505
@robertpaige4505 5 жыл бұрын
So the Steelers' scouting department are legends... for basically copying AFL scouting policy?
@cornellgreen3692
@cornellgreen3692 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Paige Paul Brown was first, then the AFL took the recruiting of Black players to the next level. The AFL was a brand new league, and they were far more open to the Black players than the NFL. They were looking for the best talent, wherever they could find it. Otis Taylor, Cookie Gilchrist, Buck Buchanan, Tom Day, Booker Edgerson, Earl Faison, and Ernie Ladd would have slipped into obscurity without the AFL.
@robertpaige4505
@robertpaige4505 5 жыл бұрын
@@cornellgreen3692 Paul Brown recruited black players, but from big name northern schools like Syracuse. He also adhered to the NFL's unofficial quota system.
@joebatimore8893
@joebatimore8893 5 жыл бұрын
at 349 that guy would of been suspended today
@nicholasdulaney3214
@nicholasdulaney3214 5 жыл бұрын
What is this from? Is it a 30 for 30 or something?
@jacobbernas8876
@jacobbernas8876 5 жыл бұрын
Steelers still draft that good today
@brucelee6834
@brucelee6834 5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Bernas not as good as the patriots
@captainspartan04
@captainspartan04 5 жыл бұрын
@@brucelee6834 patriots don't draft the best. They get little name free agents and other people's draft "bust"
@MrBuddylove50
@MrBuddylove50 5 жыл бұрын
They draft excellent linebackers, thats for sure. I cant remember a single steeler team that didnt have a ton of talent at that position.
@adameanglin
@adameanglin 5 жыл бұрын
Gee so what happened to Mike Webster?
@Monk-Amani.
@Monk-Amani. 5 жыл бұрын
Please, read his story. Very tragic.
@cornellgreen3692
@cornellgreen3692 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Anglin Mike Webster's condition exposed the problem of CTE in the NFL. His businesses went under, rendering him homeless and living in the bed of his pickup truck. When his brain damage was linked to the violent hits from his playing days, the league could no longer hide behind medical flimflams and obfuscations, plus Gene Upshaw was out as the president of the Players' Association. He was the main problem with the players' asssociation blocking player claims for financial and medical support. Because of him, John Unitas died a bitter and pissed off man because of the lack of support from the league. When CTE was proven in court as coming from the hits, the league's wall of defense was shot down. It was a sad and bitter episode in the history of the NFL.
@dougdunn4275
@dougdunn4275 3 жыл бұрын
That's because they stunk so bad before that and had alot of high picks
@brucelee6834
@brucelee6834 5 жыл бұрын
Yall know Brady has more than every one of them whilst playing, and Belichick literally has double?
@dafttassia1960
@dafttassia1960 5 жыл бұрын
This is why people hate the patriots
@Pancakes26
@Pancakes26 5 жыл бұрын
Ok and? Brady would get hammered by the 70s Steelers.
@sshza11
@sshza11 5 жыл бұрын
Cheating helps.
@toddmiller2812
@toddmiller2812 Жыл бұрын
Pittsburgh like always cheated, but don't tell that story. Back in the day, the film was supposed to be passed on to each team. They told other teams they had lost the Stallworth film, and there was no backup film. They knew they could draft him late. Yeah, this will never happen again with all the media there is today. Once cheaters always cheaters!
@Wedarealsinnas
@Wedarealsinnas Жыл бұрын
6 rings mf to show for it da greatest team ever
@Gaga4Parma
@Gaga4Parma 10 ай бұрын
How's that cheating? 😂
@piggyroo100
@piggyroo100 5 жыл бұрын
71 was as important.
@Biggdoom344
@Biggdoom344 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely and underrated because of the 74 draft. But they got WR Frank Lewis, FS Mike Wagner, DT Ernie Holmes, LB Jack Ham,T moon Mullins. TE Larry Brown.
@jeffhufana2389
@jeffhufana2389 5 жыл бұрын
Lambert Swann Stallworth Bradshaw Polamalu Randle - El Hines Ward Roethlisberger Smith-Schuster Conner Washington Shazier Watt Bell Brown Harrison "The Beard" *ONLY REAL STEELERS FAN KNOWS HE IS LMFAO
@mathewtorres1283
@mathewtorres1283 5 жыл бұрын
Da Beard*
@skeezix8156
@skeezix8156 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff hufana I’m not even a Steeler fan but you should have Greg Lloyd on your list.
@maggiemorrisseycoltsandpac3100
@maggiemorrisseycoltsandpac3100 5 жыл бұрын
And my packers took tony madrich
@jhanbury1968
@jhanbury1968 5 жыл бұрын
They did even worse in 74 when they traded 2 first rounds and 2 second rounds for QB John Hadl.
@cornellgreen3692
@cornellgreen3692 5 жыл бұрын
Maggie Morrissey Colts and Packers Fan They made Mandarich a tackle when he was a guard at Michigan State. He was not equipped to be an outside lineman. That made him a bust.
@duskthunder9274
@duskthunder9274 3 жыл бұрын
Are u a colts fan or a packers fan
@Realone031
@Realone031 2 жыл бұрын
And they said were the inferior ones
@gemcityconnection3304
@gemcityconnection3304 5 жыл бұрын
What really made the Steelers great was their team doctor filling up the players with steroids. It's amazing what drugs can do for a draft class.
@jefferyrobertson7520
@jefferyrobertson7520 5 жыл бұрын
1974 Pittsburgh Steelers have best season ever with 10 wins 3 loss and 1 tied clinched their first of four times Super Bowl champion brought the Dynasty in the 70s
@ocbee6175
@ocbee6175 5 жыл бұрын
Jeffery Robertson BEST?
@jefferyrobertson7520
@jefferyrobertson7520 5 жыл бұрын
OC Beezilla old school NFL from 1970 through 1993 era
@ocbee6175
@ocbee6175 5 жыл бұрын
Jeffery Robertson ah ok
@jefferyrobertson7520
@jefferyrobertson7520 5 жыл бұрын
OC Beezilla only three greatest Dynasty in NFL history Pittsburgh Steelers the 70s San Francisco 49ers the 80s and Dallas Cowboys the early 90s
@epm5433
@epm5433 5 жыл бұрын
@@jefferyrobertson7520 Have you every heard of the Green Bay Packers? They were coached by a man named Vince Lombardi. The Packers won 5 championships in 7 seasons.
@brucetsheej91
@brucetsheej91 5 жыл бұрын
This what Mayock and Gruden will replicate. You heard from me first. #RAIDERS #RAIDERNATION #RN4L
@thefriendlygamer2221
@thefriendlygamer2221 5 жыл бұрын
Keep telling yourself that
@timeghost5000
@timeghost5000 Жыл бұрын
how this aged….
@FYRFOX198
@FYRFOX198 5 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, I was a Rams and Steelers fan...but just a little more towards the Rams because I live in L.A.
@kvngirvng9475
@kvngirvng9475 5 жыл бұрын
sorry about the superbowl.we gone crush yall in L.A. 🐻🔽
@brucelee6834
@brucelee6834 5 жыл бұрын
3rd greatest dynasty in the history of the NFL, after the patriots and 49ers
@thefriendlygamer2221
@thefriendlygamer2221 5 жыл бұрын
Nope,first sorry 4 in 6 years Led by HOF Owners Coach Players
@phishfearme2
@phishfearme2 5 жыл бұрын
steeler's fan here - you gotta give number one to the Pats - but SFO? not even close
@duskthunder9274
@duskthunder9274 3 жыл бұрын
No Steelers are ahead of the niners imo
@djtennessee9016
@djtennessee9016 2 жыл бұрын
The closest professional sports dynasty to the Pittsburgh Steelers is only the Boston Celtics
@Wedarealsinnas
@Wedarealsinnas Жыл бұрын
@@phishfearme2bro the patriots didnt win num until brady came wtf
@Revealingstorm.
@Revealingstorm. 5 жыл бұрын
They discovered steroids.
@sshza11
@sshza11 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It matters so much now.
@erikthorsen240
@erikthorsen240 5 жыл бұрын
@@sshza11 it does, historically speaking.
@duskthunder9274
@duskthunder9274 3 жыл бұрын
@@erikthorsen240 no it doesn't every team used steroids
@esvinramirez710
@esvinramirez710 5 жыл бұрын
First
@tombradyshadycheatsquadspy5590
@tombradyshadycheatsquadspy5590 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the steroids but when real football and man played it
@brucelee6834
@brucelee6834 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Brady Shady #CheatSquad#SpyOnYou#WOAT none of them have 6 rings. U know who has? The GOAT, TB12
@Pancakes26
@Pancakes26 5 жыл бұрын
@@brucelee6834 stfu dude no one wants to hear it.
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