How Allegri's Miserere should really sound | The Marian Consort
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Rory McCleery, joined by Ben Byram-Wigfield, gives you inside story on Gregorio Allegri's Miserere, the myths, and the mistakes. From Allegri, to Mozart, to Mendelssohn, get the back story on how the music became so famous, and hear three versions of the work as it might have sounded over the centuries.
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格雷戈里奥·阿莱格里（Gregorio Allegri）-梅斯（Miserere mei），德乌斯（Deus）
@rexstuff4655 7 ай бұрын
It might be 'wrong', but damn, that top C gives me the shivers Every. Single. Time. One of the most beautiful sequences in all of Music.
@CepheusFromTheMoon 3 ай бұрын
That mistake was like god saying let me help you with that 🤣🤣
@ludwigvonn9889 3 ай бұрын
Best musical mistake ever lol
@davidlewis3072 Ай бұрын
you're not wrong if that is what it does with your heart
@mariusjansevanrensburg2262 3 жыл бұрын
"There are no mistakes, only happy accidents" - Bob Ross
@Wriggs74 2 жыл бұрын
I like your thinking 🤔👍
@rushthezeppelin 2 жыл бұрын
Crap you beat me to it lol
@xynthyx 2 жыл бұрын
i prefer master oogway
@JamesWilliams-ki7im 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Bob Ross... Even my pre-teen children love him...
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@IonIsFalling7217 3 жыл бұрын
Best mistake ever made
@class87srule 2 жыл бұрын
Ripping (off) Yarn!
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version of Miserere mei Deus ?
@sgringo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShalomMulenga It's really nice. You had involvement in its creation? You're probably doing the narration, yeah?
@ariseaman390 Жыл бұрын
Mistakes happen, but they distort the original idea. In the future that piece of music might be performed by a death metal band and people think it's just some traditional lullaby from the year 1984.
@ElCerdoBlanco Жыл бұрын
@@ariseaman390 you underestimate (Death) Metal. Especially in Scandinavia many Metal bands are formed by musicians who studied music at the university. There is no modern music that is more complex than Metal (apart from "modern" classical music of course). Music is the language of emotions and in this song the high C is nothing else. But how can you express rage, anger or even hatred with a choir? This is the gap harmonic music cannot fill and where Metal has to be.
@hollyh8554 2 жыл бұрын
I adore this video for maybe the nerdiest reason… I play the role of cantor at my church, and I’ve always dreamed of singing Allegri’s Miserere during Holy Week, but I just don’t have those highest notes. But the original version is almost identical to what I already sing each week! I’m losing-my-mind excited to finally bring the great Miserere to our little parish ensemble
@MarniMorrows 2 жыл бұрын
Sweetest comment ever. 🙏🏽
@elijahcarter2435 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it went well!
@mrgabes2215 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask: have you been singing it in Latin?
@fr.paulwheeler1112 2 жыл бұрын
I think it sounds much better with the Prerigrinus rather than Mode ij.
@plaguedoct0r Жыл бұрын
Magic doesn't exist. Grow up.
@philipclingerman7095 3 жыл бұрын
In all versions, the singing is exquisite.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@jackal59 2 жыл бұрын
Except for the soprano's scoop and pitch issues in the third version.
@danielhughes441 2 жыл бұрын
The tenor soloist was under pitch on his first two plainchants. I’m also not a fan of the conductor’s gestures/conducting technique
@ronm3245 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielhughes441 I think they added the solos from a different take. The 4-part choir would have come in on the lower pitch they had been presented with if the performance was continuous, but they were instantly in tune with each other and matched the previous choir. Also, no conductor is necessary for this.
@RobCCTV 2 жыл бұрын
Its not as good as it sounds...
@willrice1850 2 жыл бұрын
The alto at 11.00 is incredible. What a voice!
@5691Mark 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@junk8746 2 жыл бұрын
Is she a contralto?
@richardrobb9016 2 жыл бұрын
Helen Charleston it is. Glorious
@profMaximvs Жыл бұрын
A really warm voice! I have a special care about (the almost forgotten) Alto voice.
@joesoy9185 Жыл бұрын
@@richardrobb9016 A lovely rendition of hers in a lighter mood, here with Trinity College kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m8t7ZNuUmZecg2g.html
@eduardovalentin9416 3 жыл бұрын
I always knew Allegri's Miserere slapped. What I didn't know is that it hits so hard that it slaps in an additional 2 versions I was unaware about until now.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@minnystrawb8453 2 жыл бұрын
The James Macmillan version is my favorite. Look up the version by the ORA singers. PERFECT blend. Absolutely perfect 😭😭
@Frankybeanselevators Жыл бұрын
yeah dawg, it slaps da bass!!
@asshole94 Жыл бұрын
@@Frankybeanselevators weak.
@frisco61 10 ай бұрын
Somehow “slaps” comes nowhere close to the majesty of this music.
@LukeSM2024 3 жыл бұрын
I’m really, really impressed with the original version. There is a noble simplicity to it that was lost in all of the later embellishments. I hope you guys record it for one of your albums one day.
@TheMarianConsort 3 жыл бұрын
it's rather beautiful isn't it. thanks for watching
@atlinc.s6525 3 жыл бұрын
i think the actual sistine chapel choir had made a recording of the original piece which was recorded in the sistine chapel .
@hstanekovic 3 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree.
@kateguilfoyle5155 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you do a recording too - your work is beautiful. The original tells more closely to the meaning of the Psalm itself too but all are exquisite.
@mwnyc3976 2 жыл бұрын
@@atlinc.s6525 Al though the Sistine Chapel Choir of the late 20th and 21st centuries doesn't bear much resemblance to the one of the 16th and 17th centuries.
@KateLove21 6 ай бұрын
Those acoustics! There's just something about the singer standing in the alcove that highlights the fact these stones are amplifying those voices. The talent of it all... the voices, the composer and the architects ... its simply amazing.
@cluelessbeekeeping1322 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not terribly bright....it *_JUST_* hit me... all of this, no instruments. Wow, that magnificence is all voices. Wow. So beautiful!
@creightonstarbuck2000 3 жыл бұрын
The human voice is the only instrument created by God, not by Man, making it the highest instrument of them all.
@highonimmi 2 жыл бұрын
@@creightonstarbuck2000 dude...best comment ever
@daphneraven9439 2 жыл бұрын
@drlrwilsings 2 жыл бұрын
God's greatest instrument.
@torsteinnordstrand170 2 жыл бұрын
@@drlrwilsings By your logic, god also made heavenly farting.
@kevinm.pfeiffer5037 2 жыл бұрын
Allegri's original, opening two verses: 6:30 18th century version, with 2nd voice in opening 5-part choir up 1 octave: 8:12 Familiar version known today: 10:19
@c_era_una_volta Жыл бұрын
😘
@LatestTechinCyberSec Жыл бұрын
It would be really nice to have a full recording of the 2nd version from beginning to end. That seems the version most suitable for a concert, but what I like about the original version is that it can be sung by ordinary people in an actual liturgy!
@guss25100 9 ай бұрын
@@c_era_una_volta😅😅ii😅ii
@AndromedaCripps 2 жыл бұрын
The high c is splendid, but I think what really sells it is the sudden key change. It makes you feel so transported each time. It’s so out of place for this type of music, being from the period it was from; and that’s because it actually IS out of place, but nonetheless 😂 And the plainchant in between works really well as a tonality palette cleanser to lead us back to the original key. ✨
@smc3735 Жыл бұрын
Druid? Gregorio Allegri was a Roman Catholic Priest. Stop confusing yourself and robbing the Holy Trinity of their Glory! Their aim is to inspire love of God by sending Sanctifying music into the world. Their purpose again is to raise a soul to God! No doubt you are an admirer also of Mozart? Mozart was not the silly wretch they portrayed him as being in the film. Having read his unedited letters, he was revealed to be what would be classed today as a most Conservative Prudish person, a devout Roman Catholic (like Allegri) who served God and led people to God with his inspired music. In many letters Mozart speaks of Christ. "Christ willing I'll see you later" "If it is God's Will I will do so" etc...In one letter that Mozart wrote to a friend, he revealed that during the space of time that he sat at Table eating his dinner, he became distracted from his table guests, upon hearing music as though already composed playing in his head. All that was needed was for him to write it down. No doubt you would interpret him as being a warlock, Druid, or heathen - (all known to be Satanic types who are NOT of the pure, just God. Mozart, however, did not despise the virtue and innocence of Christ, and he recognised His virtue and innocence within His gift of Music. He therefore gave full credit to God. He said the music came from Heaven so that he could bring glory to God as souls marvelled at his accomplishments. Mozart also once said "I trust NO man who does not love Christ." As a Composer myself I know that what he said was true. Whether the music is dreamed, heard consciously playing outside yourself, or even played in your soul so you are unaware that it is indeed a gift from outside you - the author of ALL Sacred, spiritual beautiful music is Our Lord. Who hopes we will rush to worship Him as we hear it being performed. His aim is realised. MANY souls are brought to Christ listening to the music that He gave the Composers who LOVED Him. Other RC Priest Composers are Palestrina, Vivaldi, Tomas Luis de Victoria Monteverdi, - other Catholic Composers include, Pergolesi, Elgar, and of course, William Byrd and Thomas Tallis.
@AndromedaCripps Жыл бұрын
@@smc3735 “Druid” was a typo! I intended to type “period” and it auto-corrected. Not sure where you got your interpretation of my comment from though. Actuslly personally Mozart is among my least favorite composers. Also, as a composer, I appreciate and tolerate all religions and the music they have inspired, as well as the music they haven’t, and as such, respect that Allegri may have come from a similar spiritual background to yourself!
@Lajusa 3 ай бұрын
Damn, you are gorgeous !
@shannanolan 3 жыл бұрын
I love this entire thing. The right, the wrong, the plain. The. Whole. Miserere
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@La_Reinasworld 11 ай бұрын
😂❤
@rushthezeppelin 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that mistake with the C is just soul piercing. To quote Bob Ross, no mistakes just happy accidents (it certainly applies here).
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@luisloya1120 2 жыл бұрын
Bob Ross, 😆
@G.B.P. 5 ай бұрын
Nah, it’s a terrible mistake. If you want to hear that high C just transpose the original score up a fourth, but don’t mess with the composers work.
@slyph63 2 жыл бұрын
That is the most beautiful mistake I've ever heard in my life. My heart just soars when I hear it. This is the last thing I want to hear before I close my eyes for ever.
@mariashouse5492 2 жыл бұрын
All three versions are beautiful, but I just love the high c in the modern version. I also love the purity of the singers voices!
@ThinWhiteAxe 6 ай бұрын
same
@Cyrus_II 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that mistake may have as well been divine intervention.
@torsteinnordstrand170 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, it's more like evolution. A random mutation / fault that proved to be more fit to survive than its ancestors.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@Cyrus_II 2 жыл бұрын
@@torsteinnordstrand170 You're ignoring the selection mechanism. Plenty of random things happen but they don't get selected randomly.
@Cyrus_II 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShalomMulenga Man, I didn't even realize this song is psalm 50(51). Brings a tear to my eye
@torsteinnordstrand170 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cyrus_II Not sure what you mean, it was clearly selected for. Just as Jeff Buckley's rendition of Hallelujah has made us forget Cohen's original.
@TomD67 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. This kind of scholarship is extremely important, especially in these days of cultural collapse and general embrace of ignorance.
@robertjohnson-taylor100 Жыл бұрын
This proves, at least to me, how beautiful an instrument the human voice can be.
@faramund9865 Жыл бұрын
I'm really impressed the singers don't get confused when learning all these different versions!
@inu206 3 жыл бұрын
The first version is so soft and nice. Like Angels.
@chubbs-thechubbyninja4719 3 жыл бұрын
That one is called lamentations
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@c_era_una_volta Жыл бұрын
@@chubbs-thechubbyninja4719 thanks
@eigengrau7698 2 жыл бұрын
9:42 that sound was MASSIVE also 6:45 (ori) 8:27 (2nd alter) 10:20 (the 'happy little accident') 12:10 (signature)
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@chrismoule7242 2 жыл бұрын
I *loathe* that 9:42 with a passion, I have to say.
@ghastlycandle 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrismoule7242 maybe I'm uncultured but that whole part from 9:42 to 10:11 (especially at 10:05) just sounded super pitchy and off to me?? I guess it was meant to sound that way but the blond singer sounded off key to me and it threw me off. But maybe I'm just super used to the original lol
@polral7287 Жыл бұрын
@@ghastlycandle I love the dissonance in that part. It's not off-key, it's just a chromatic note (or borrowed?) I'm assuming. It darkens it a bit. Love it
@robertmbaker8215 Жыл бұрын
Grinch-like, my soul grew three times its size the first time I heard that 12:10 sound (and every time since!)
@KeeganConnolly 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found this video! This is fascinating. I obviously love the 'mistake' high C, but that alto solo on "misericordiam" gave me goosebumps.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@craigeverhart4755 2 жыл бұрын
The singers are uncredited individually, but I think that's Helen Charlston as the contralto (formerly of Trinity College Cambridge). Yes, an awesome talent.
@AlexDogwalker1234 2 жыл бұрын
SAME! But i do think the c makes it so very gaudy.
@1515327E Жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the female soprano version to the boy treble one. The way her voice expands from the rising point of that top C is breathtaking. God bless you.
@julietparry6688 5 ай бұрын
Me too
@smoath 3 жыл бұрын
This video itself is something to be celebrated. WELL DONE!
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@timbobsm 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago, I purchased the album of King's College choir first recording of the English version of the Miserere with a boy by the name of Roy Goodman hitting those soaring high Cs. I fell in love with this work. Since then I have found recordings of the original version. I love both of them. Yet, still when listening to the modern version, it is like someone, with those high Cs is trying to reach heaven and taking the listener with him/her.
@paulsmith5752 Жыл бұрын
Roy Goodman became an excellent violinist, especially in Baroque and early Classical music.
@baronvg 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I just randomly had this tune play in my head and so wanted to listen to it and then came across this video. You really do learn something new everyday! Best mistake ever! As opposed to the worst mistake ever which is what my parents have called me for 40 years.
@nickkablak8920 3 жыл бұрын
Now that’s a lot of damage
@regrettablestitches 2 жыл бұрын
Same, my guy -- and yet, here we are, just as magnificent as that "mistake" of a note.
@titob.yotokojr.9337 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you can appreciate heavenly music so you can't be all that bad 😊.
@atomariel4849 2 жыл бұрын
They made a mistake they think but all they did was miss the largest opportunity of their life's, raising a child. God makes no mistakes child but humans on the other hand blinded by our ambitions stumble by the second. You are loved but we all have a struggle to face. Hold fast and elevate your struggle for the holy souls of purgatory.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@Portubed 2 жыл бұрын
Each version, straight from the start: 1) 6:46 2) 8:28 3) 10:35
@janefaceinthewind6260 2 жыл бұрын
God, that soprano is just glorious! I love that there is so much resonance and warmth in her voice, even in the higher notes. Fantastic technique! Thank you for sharing your talent and the beauty of music.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@Vermontist1 2 жыл бұрын
Quit spamming our page
@MrJdsenior Жыл бұрын
For another, try the one in Nigel Short's Tenebrea Choir. The one I'm speaking of specifically is in the antiphonal choir, I put you in about 10 seconds before that stratospheric note. It's the same piece, BTW. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fpmmbNif1c7KmWQ.html
@Jo1066milton Жыл бұрын
I was babysitting for my music teacher around 1975/6 and had the radio on. This music played. I didn't catch either the name or the composer but that high note grabbed me. I wanted that music. It wasn't until some time in the 1990s when I bought a CD of "church music" and there it was. I didn't know its history until I saw this video. I do prefer the "wrong" version. It was and still is that very high note that I love, and it literally bring sudden tears to my eyes.
@Ben-kv7wr 2 жыл бұрын
all the ornamentation on the second version is just so hypnotising, especially near the end
@aetheldan 2 ай бұрын
real. a full 15 min version of it would be incredible
@robert9ish 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful 'mistake'. Easily one of the most touching pieces of music for me. I'll take that high C any day. It's one of the parts I most look forward to in what is now a modern arrangement of the original piece through the centuries.
@fredgarv79 Жыл бұрын
to me, the high C is what makes it, I just saw it a few days ago and let me tell you, it was an experience
@aquamayne8168 6 ай бұрын
@@fredgarv79 thats me right now having an experience. The Hi C version just blows me away
@brads2041 Жыл бұрын
The top c is so beautiful it gives me chills and nearly always brings me to tears to hear it
@pricklypear7497 2 жыл бұрын
Each version has its own inherent value and beauty. Although I would always know the final version as my favourite choral piece.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@guidobosson3332 Жыл бұрын
As someone who's born in a non-Christian family this piece of music as well as this type of (church) music in general speaks straight to my heart and soul 🙌 ❤️ for me heaven exists in music and how it can heal a soul and mind. But i could listen to this piece in a church all day, sang by the ones who poses the knowhow of singing this song so heavenly. To be honest I've never spent more then a few hours in one for the loss of family or close friends... My thoughts go out for all my loved ones present or above. And thank you Allegri from the past, for this wonderfull peace of my soul from the warmth of your music. Which will last another hundreds of years thanks to our current technology of preservation and so on.... thank you thank you thank you☺️
@G.B.P. 5 ай бұрын
You’re welcome to come to the Catholic church any time
@Atomsoppen95 2 жыл бұрын
This just goes to show that any piece takes on an indepenence from its composer, and becomes a common cultural heritage, always in the process of being reinvented each time it's recreated. Even a written form, with a long history of documentation, such as the classical music tradition, takes on certain folkloric aspects, much like oral tradition in folk music. Any piece of art becomes public, collective property as the piece itself, and its entire history, becomes the basis for its own interpretation.
@maureentuohy8672 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most beautiful works of music in the world. The fact that it is the text of one of the most powerful Psalms in scripture only adds to it's beauty.
@jlouis4407 4 ай бұрын
Yep Psalm 51 is the “big” one
@cheytacpraetoriancomposite3413 3 жыл бұрын
So one of the most beautiful things i've ever heard in my life was made by mistake...cool
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version of Miserere mei Deus
@jamesmartello1 3 жыл бұрын
It is hauntingly beautiful and reflective. It has always been one of my favourite pieces.
@m.campbell650 2 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head..." hauntingly beautiful and reflective". I can definitely picture it during Tenebrae Services.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@famsteer 2 жыл бұрын
Each version brings tears to my eyes. God sings through music like this.
@eloisem3214 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I only hope this is the song I hear as I enter heaven. Glorious!
@luisloya1120 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@marydonohoe8200 9 ай бұрын
That contralto in versions one and two here is stunning. I’d love to hear more of her work!
@APolat-tz8tl 3 ай бұрын
Either it’s the first “simple” version or the last one with the top C, it’s amazing! Just purely beautiful. ❤ No words can describe the feeling that overcomes me each time I listen to it. Tears rolling down my cheeks with a smile on my face. ❤
@Squisky 2 жыл бұрын
This channel needs millions of followers.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version of Miserere mei Deus ?
@hezakayametekingi2607 3 жыл бұрын
All three different versions are beautiful and unique in their own way. And have their different interpretation.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version of Miserere mei Deus
@Xanaseb 3 жыл бұрын
The tonus peregrinus plain chant segment is much nicer! Very helpful and beautiful video, thanks
@jameshardie4760 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@SempreGumby 2 жыл бұрын
And very familiar. We use it among others.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version of Miserere mei Deus
@lindaj5492 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Where was this filmed please? The stonework is extraordinary.
@NasserShakaa Жыл бұрын
Remarkable how a mistake changes this historic piece, only to make it be a signature identity. And this isn't a mistake in the negative sense of the word at all, but rather a happy one. And yet I find myself loving all three versions equally.
@frankbowman9493 2 жыл бұрын
Helen Charlston's voice is captivating. When she starts on "misericordiam" in the second version her tone is amazing. I loved this. I read Ben Byram-Wigfield's essay a few years ago, and of course I have heard The Sixteen do their versions (or what is available of them on KZfaq). This was perfect. I much prefer the original tonus peregrinus. I would like to see a version very much like the 18th Century version but with embellishments simplified for a less proficient church choir. On the other hand, the simplicity of the original is amazing.
@gloriahancock998 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! It is absolutely beautiful, any of those versions. I take them all. Is like being in heaven listening to the angels sing to our Lord. ✝️🙏Amén.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@francesmilne4411 3 жыл бұрын
Sublime singing and so interesting to hear the history of this piece. Thank you.
@jameshardie4760 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frances!
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@Garnog404 2 жыл бұрын
God heard this, and was pleased. Then He thought "Well, it could be better." Now we have the 'best' version. CHANGE MY MIND®
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version of Miserere mei Deus ?
@horrgakx Жыл бұрын
I found the 8:12 original version to be amazing, but the high-C is just so compelling and fits so well into the piece. It's just the most incredible piece of music, whichever version you like.
@Liessssssssssss 2 жыл бұрын
I have had no musical training, so I don't always know what you are talking about. But I am trying my best to understand everything and go back and compare each version. I find it fascinating I am learning so much
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version of Miserere mei Deus
@MF-es2jw 5 ай бұрын
It’s almost so beautiful it hurts your soul I can’t hardly handle the beauty
@Dave5400 11 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, if the "mistaken" high C section wasn't adopted, the piece may not have been quite as well known as it is. The extras that arguably shouldn't be there make it the iconic piece that it is. For something to be recognisable, it needs to stand out and this certainly does that, no matter what the puritans say about changing a piece of music from the composer's intentions.
@SpringNotes 7 ай бұрын
Right ? Such a great mistake !
@jordimartinez6296 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks very much
@moaahlgren5193 2 жыл бұрын
That was a great lesson in music history. Thanx!
@malcolmfrance337 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. All versions are beautiful. Thank you to all involved in this production!
@equusasinus 2 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere on Facebook that there was no Sistine Chapel: it all happened in a cellar beneath a pizza restaurant in Rome.
@barbaragunter9413 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Really love how you took us through the various approaches with the historical context. More of this kind of thing please!
@TheMarianConsort 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Barbara! Noted!
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version
@mjremy2605 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I heard the wrong version all these years! Thank god for your painstaking research and collaboration and the hard work of the Marian Consort. We finally have the right version which is much easier to sing too! The original version by Allegri was more layered, melodious, and more simple than later versions, without the high change in pitch. I liked it better, especially for singing. The later version is what I use when I want to release a flood of tears and my pain flows like a swollen river. Both version are beautiful, but I am very, very grateful to have the original Miserere that you have recorded here. I must buy this song if you have it. Thank you for restoring authenticity to this beautiful piece. It is everlasting.
@francoisewhite2541 2 ай бұрын
The 'mistake' fills me with gratitude and wonder. Weeping from the beauty of it
@yippee8570 2 жыл бұрын
I was spellbound by all three versions. Thank you so much for this.
@LucynaNorment Жыл бұрын
What an extraordinary lesson in beautiful music. Thank you for this.
@sarastroposa5198 2 жыл бұрын
Each version is wonderful in its own way... I could imagine each one sung on successive services. Thanks for such an insightful presentation and sterlng performance values.
@dominicfield8022 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating (and beautifully sung).
@melodyjennings7782 Ай бұрын
It was an honor to attend St. James in Vancouver WA. where Scott Powell directed the choir and he played the organ. The level of music was excellent. His choristers sang the Misrere during Holy Week with perfection.
@mbg484 2 жыл бұрын
amazing how much sound so few singers can create! and so so beautifully . . .
@guguigugu 2 жыл бұрын
in art, there are no mistakes, only happy accidents
@OmisileKehindeOlugbenga Жыл бұрын
Awesomely beautiful... Makes me love the song and singing all the more
@Cre8tvMG 11 ай бұрын
Oh man. That's stunning. Well done.
@adastra5214 2 жыл бұрын
Like angels singing, beautiful. The 18th-century version is sublime, exquisite.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version of Miserere mei Deus
@00muinamir 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, this is fascinating! Hearing them side by side the last one really does sound anachronistic by comparison. But they're all beautiful in their own way.
@chrishoo2 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for making this video, wonderful music & voices- congratulations to you all.
@williamthethespian Жыл бұрын
Delightful presentation. Thank you.
@heidi1640 Жыл бұрын
I love the first version the most. 💖 When I first learned about the piece Miserere, I was always listening to the latest version until my brother made me listen to the original version of the piece and it's far more beautiful and fitting to the liturgy. So for me, it's how it is always supposed to be sung.
@lightandtheheat 2 жыл бұрын
11:03 I recognize the soprano on the left from Tenebrae's 2018 rendition of this same piece, also on KZfaq. She must be intimately familiar with it by now. Also the alto at 10:57 is spectacular.
@MrJdsenior Жыл бұрын
Another favorite of mine, and Voces 8, among others.
@Cyberzab57 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work! Thanks a lot.
@zxbn4566 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much! I love all three variants, and your engaging and authoritative explanation of the piece's historical evolution.
@Rockland45 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely well done documentary. I prefer the modern version, mainly because that soaring high note IS the Miserere for me.
@agurtzanemallona 2 жыл бұрын
So impressed by the three versions.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbyAnduJs-CWlZc.html what do you think about this version of Miserere mei Deus
@jimfowler5930 2 жыл бұрын
Brings tears.......simply beautiful, the soul sings with this performance.
@MrKeithterrett Ай бұрын
Great video here Rory, I like to learn something every day! Great consort too!
@esdraskuhn8896 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because Tonus Peregrinus is my all time favourite chant line, but I really like Allegri's original version the best for its simplicity.
@16semiquavers 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! It befits Holy Week. And the tonus peregrinus is haunting.
@VarietasCantandi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this very interesting explanation and story! The format you chose was perfect to quickly grasp the differences and the similarities between the versions. Combined with the great production quality this makes for an outstanding video about a stunning piece.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
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@gingeropera7491 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. You learn something every day. I never knew any of this. Wow
@ad31677 Ай бұрын
Absolutely fabulous...ly fascinating. Thanks for producing and posting, and importantly, clarifying and educating!
@vcaylor77 2 жыл бұрын
What an education you've provided about the versions of this piece. Thank you so much! I randomly ran across Tenebrae performing the "mistake" version as my first exposure to it. When I would look for other performers doing it, I noticed I kept seeing various composers' names, dates, and that some sounded different. I kept thinking to myself that I just didn't remember the name of the piece and wouldn't ever figure it out again, so I'd just be happy with what I *thought* I heard one time. (I did eventually find Tenebrae's performance again.) Now it all makes so much more sense. I look forward to listening to other versions with this knowledge.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
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@tessasilberbauer6219 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say I love the original version's simplicity. But I always adored the timelessness of that style no matter how beautiful the modern is. And the challenge of performing an almost-famous work in such an exposed arrangement (i.e. not a massive choir) must have been quite something for you all!
@creativebobbo 7 ай бұрын
Either version is a sweet piece of music. I'm actually partial to the original. The separation of the lower opening lines sound more dramatic to me. Those 9? voices produce a very big sound. The acoustics are awesome. Bravo!
@aruvielevenstar3944 Жыл бұрын
I love all the versions, it touches the soul ❤
@woodpeckercare5226 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this explicit explanation. I love the piece even more now.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
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@catholiccrusader5328 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education. I never knew that whole story about this magnificent hymn until now. GOD bless and good evening.
@marcschiavone2788 2 жыл бұрын
As an author, I can imagine that Allegri himself knew that high C as a detail that an author almost writes but forgets in a "knock at the door" moment of distraction.....
@louisaellingham602 Жыл бұрын
I love all this explanation and am absolutely fascinated by the incredible changes this masterpiece has gone through! Thank you!♥
@iasnaia-poliana Жыл бұрын
Absolutely stunning! Didn't know anything about the piece's journey.
@marilynwoolford-chandler1161 3 жыл бұрын
Riveting listening in AotearoaNew Zealand on Good Friday morning. A wonderful programme of expert musicology and history delightfully and clearly presented as well as the glorious music of the three versions at the end. Thank you very much all concerned and the Kings Singers who lead me gently to this site. A blessed Easter to all
@composaboi 3 жыл бұрын
A blessed Easter to you too.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
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@Wriggs74 2 жыл бұрын
It's just like the accidental discovery of penicillin. Only once in a lifetime something is discovered by accident. For me the most recent is just one of the most beautifulist pieces of music I have ever heard.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
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@johnhagen31 Жыл бұрын
Jaw-droppingly beautiful in all its versions.
@ronenborshevsky8144 11 ай бұрын
Very good video, thank you! and you have a truly fabulous alto at the quintet! Brava!
@Sakura061278 3 жыл бұрын
i love this video and to learn that the vetsion of miserere ive been loving to hear is a result of a " mistake" transctiption. I still love it because the soaring ornamentation added depths to the verses. But, hearing the original version is so divine and i love it.
@ShalomMulenga 2 жыл бұрын
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