They way he dashes and sits on it after the second hit. Most people would miss it. But for Valle that pause probably felt like an eternity. Both players felt a million emotions in that split second.

Bonchan jumped back because he was afraid of hugo's command grab, something that valle baited out with the forward dash. Still a great mind game but bonchan was not trying to avoid another clap in that specific moment

That's the art of fighting. It's like when boxers faint their punches to sense what their opponent will do

Alex Pereira did this to Sean Strictland in UFC. he kept ducking to throw lower body shots, so when he conditioned dude for this, he dropped his level and threw one high and knocked him silly

Yep. 2 hours iirc. RIP floe.

The random select King. The guy. He is missed

Wait Floe past away ?

​@@darryuozdark7149yes

@@darryuozdark7149 yeah, unfortunately. Multiple strokes. He was surrounded by loved ones when he passed.

The grabbing would have made him an offensive player.. He played more defensive and rope-a-dope to get him to attack..

7:56 As someone else pointed out, that looked like a grab attempt after the dash but before the ultra

You can say, forsaking the whole point was the point.

This! He took up space in Bonchans mental stack with just the threat of a grab. It's the equlivant of putting your hand in your coat in The Godfather.

this is also a factor in MMA fights. Wrestlers knock out strikes all the time because the striker is always thinking about the takedown. examples: Kevin Randleman vs Mirko Cro Cop, Travis Lutter vs Marvin Eastman

Mostly because they don’t really encounter them often

yeah ppl care so much about tier list that they aren't ready for a good low tier player

There's truth to this - I haven't played SF since Alpha 3 in the arcades, but I would always shock the hell out of people and send them off pissed when I'd roll up with Dan and proceed to maul them, while taunting the shit out of them the entire time which inevitably would break their concentration...

never underestimate pink hoodie lil mac

This is strictly cope. This is a one in a million run. Tiers are there for a reason. Prove me wrong by going to a local and winning with a low tier. 😂😂😂

And Daigo vs. Momochi.

Let's not forget PRBalrog's Balrog vs Infiltration's Hakan. That set was friggin' legendary too.

I played so much Sagat back in SF4, so watching his tools just not work against Valle here was nuts! Like what do you mean he's just walking through the god HK???

You’ll probably have to wait years if the game is gonna stick to 4 chars a year

@DrSwazz I'll probably have quit by then sadly

@@GamingWithMoh Well, playing the game doesn't have to be about quitting or not quitting. Plenty of people just play it whenever they feel like it or hop in whenever a new fighter drops. I'll probably be doing the same for fighters I'm interested in 5 years from now.

I was a Sagat main in Alpha 3 and 4. He sucked in 5. I hope they bring him back with his Alpha vibes for SF6.

Epic!

"this is how you play Sagat" This post bought and paid for by the Ryu Gang ;) I agree though. Must have been awesome to see it live.

Bro was like "damn, time to main Hugo instead"

Buhahahaha 😂

lmaooooo really

I miss Ibuki. She was so good.

Why don't you think that?

yes we WILL ! relax friend we got u

@@erdood3235 A lot of reasons. SF4 existed in a time before the CFN existed, and before everyone was a streamer and content creator. That resulted in more hidden tech, more unique individual play styles, etc. Now a days, information spreads so fast. When one person figures out tech or something optimal, the rest of the world knows it 24-48 hours later. The incredible hype that used to exist is gone, especially when you factor in things like Modern controls. Everyone plays their characters exactly the same with the same flowchart. Another reason is the new pro tour format. All tournaments are basically region locked now. You never see best on best until Capcom Cup, or for very rare super majors like Evo. In SF4 and early SF5, anyone could travel anywhere to try to earn points. The Pro Tour was almost kind of like the WWE, in the sense that you had the same group of competitors travelling to the same places, so you'd see amazing matches between all the godlike players every other weekend. Now we never get to see any of the big Japanese personalities until CC or Evo. I understand why Capcom adjusted the rules, I really do. But it has made the tour far less interesting to me now. I used to watch every tournament, and clear my schedule for it. Now I couldn't care any less, I only watch Evo and CC. Let's not even talk about the fact that most tournaments are online now, where cheating is possible and probably rampant. The prize money has also reached a point where many pro gamers who don't even care about fighting games are being attracted to the e-sport. The only reason they're here is the dollaz. In the SF4 days the prize money was miniscule. Again, I do agree that bigger prize money is a good thing overall, but you can't deny that in the SF4 days those guys were grinding for nothing other than pride, competition, and a pure love of fighting games no matter how unpopular they were. The passion has been diluted. The FGC in the SF4 era was still underground and grassroots. The outside world didn't care about it, but everyone who was involved knew how special it was. Whether you were a competitor, a casual, or a spectator, we were all in on a secret that the rest of the world wasn't in on, and it felt cool. It was also a time that existed before cancel culture and white knighting. Everyone had thicker skin, and the world overall was just less fucked.

​@@VFXShawnI miss elena and rose. As well as dudley and Rufus. :(

because of the hair

🙄

That's not mindgames if that's true, that's just directly bothering the opponent if on purpose dude. As much as is allowed by the rules, if the rules allowed punching in fact not just punching but kicking because of society wasn't more orderly and it just "didn't hamper people's ability to play games". -_- Friendly bro fist bro smashes your kneecap -_-. Don't glorify bothering others on purpose.

​@@ambiguous8661 🤓 moment.

For some empty motions help ppl like me with the rhythm of the game I do the same as well since I started video games in arcades.....I swear ppl cry for dumb shit

​@@ambiguous8661that's scrub quote 4 sho

@@ambiguous8661 Listening in on your opponent's inputs to try and predict reversals and other moves with loud motions is a common tactic that many players employ, and muddling the information someone can get from your audio with false motions is a completely natural and legitimate counter to that. You're actually a moron if you think it's in the same vein as yelling at an opponent or physically assaulting them.

I had a casual-decent Dan in Alpha 3. Yahoo!

I used to beast with Dan on Ranked and in my local meetups. The rage fueled me thru college. It helps that no one, and I mean know one, knew how to consistently deal with lk. Dankyaku pressure 😆

I dont know why I enjoyed that game as a kid, maybe the cover intro. But it definitely was some great memories

Agreed. Guy is talking like this is vanilla Sagat or something

​@@josephshin9297Yeah...you can tell who played back then and who didn't. You can't ignore the 5 versions of the game and how some characters were very different each version.

Hugo was also largely underrated by the japanese at that point, they were saying Hugo was the worst character in the game. (A bit like how they got surprised by luffy's rose)

Came here to say this. Sagat was maybe top-mid tier if we are being generous. There was really nothing he was 'good' at in this era of the game.

I was wondering bout that lol.

I was lucky to be there at Evo 2015

Yeah. SF6 is really great, exspecially after shitty SF5 but nothing beats watching SF4 tournaments for me

SF4 really came out at the right time. Fighting games had been niche for a while, and SF4 came back with the full nostalgia of SF2, while still being able to draw in a lot of new players. I still remember launching the game and hearing that cheesy "Indestructible" song, and desperately trying to learn those FADC combos that now feels like second nature. Also Capcom: BRING BACK MAKOTO DAMMIT, IT'S TIME! :D

Deadass bro, any excuse to rewatch this match. This and KBR vs Fchump, everytime someone does a new story its insta-watch.