How an Open Democratic Convention Would Work

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5 күн бұрын

After President Biden’s rough performance at the first presidential debate, the question of an open convention has roared to the front of Democratic politics. But how would an open convention work? What would be its risks? What would be its rewards?
In February, after I first made the case for an open Democratic convention (www.nytimes.com/2024/02/16/op...) , I interviewed Elaine Kamarck to better understand what an open convention would look like. She literally wrote the book on how we choose presidential candidates, “Primary Politics: Everything You Need to Know About How America Nominates Its Presidential Candidates (www.brookings.edu/books/prima...) .” But her background here isn’t just theory. She’s worked on four presidential campaigns and on 10 nominating conventions - for both Democrats and Republicans. She’s a member of the Democratic National Committee’s Rules Committee. And her explanation of the mechanics and dynamics of open conventions was, for me, extremely helpful. It’s even more relevant now than it was then.
Mentioned:
The Lincoln Miracle (groveatlantic.com/book/the-li...) by Ed Achorn
Book Recommendations:
All the King’s Men (www.google.com/books/edition/...) by Robert Penn Warren
The Making of the President 1960 (www.harpercollins.com/product...) by Theodore H. White
Quiet Revolution (www.cambridge.org/core/journa...) by Byron E. Shafer
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast (www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-k...) , and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-... (www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-...) .
This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Kristin Lin. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Rollin Hu. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. And special thanks to Sonia Herrero.
This conversation was recorded in February 2024.

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@granthuling3235 4 күн бұрын

Showing real leadership on this, Ezra. The gaslighting is sick.

@steve-real 4 күн бұрын

Jill “Edith Wilson” Biden should release the delegates. This situation is an absurdity of selfishness.

@carolbennett1427 4 күн бұрын

The man hasn’t given a speech in 4 years and releases info. Shame on the democrats for going along with bs that made the world insane

@Grisostomo06 3 күн бұрын

Excellent analogy. If Joe is as steady as his supporters say he is why isn't he addressing the issue himself right now?? This man is in seclusion and that says everything.

@yesfredfredburger8008 3 күн бұрын

@@Grisostomo06 hey, it won him votes last time. Why on earth would any Democrat ever worry about losing voter loyalty?

@dangelo1369 23 сағат бұрын

@@Grisostomo06 Because we already did...in the primaries. I find it curious that Ezra can't seem to find the same passion for Donald Trump's stepping down or stepping aside. After all, he IS a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist facing personal bankruptcy as we speak. I mean, it's not like that there aren't suitable alternatives the Repubicans can't bring to the fore. Like Nikki Haley for example. But that would take integrity, wouldn't it Ezra?

@lshelbs7441 4 күн бұрын

I think one day Ezra, you should discuss rank choice voting in a Democratic primary and how it would reduce the likelihood of an extreme wing of the party taking power. The Democratic Party is a private institution. They can do what they want.

@Jmamelia 4 күн бұрын

100

@delorespeterson5954 4 күн бұрын

Biden needs to step aside ASAP. This independent voter needs to see the convention process play out.

@mattyeager7679 15 сағат бұрын

Yeah, they need to see the Donor class pick who they want. Screw voting, right? "Democracy is on the ballot!" you leftists screamed. lol

@delorespeterson5954 15 сағат бұрын

@@mattyeager7679 neither candidate should be running

@arcanernz 3 күн бұрын

Electing a candidate via a small committee sounds aristocratic and anti-democratic. You’re basically saying the ppl voting are idiots and these insiders know best.

@connor5669 3 күн бұрын

Also highly protective of capital

@cassandratq9301 Күн бұрын

If it gets rid of Kamala, who can't win, it's worth it.

@stephenbailey9969 4 күн бұрын

Looks like the Democrats are going to dance with the guy that brought them. The old generation doesn't want to let go. So, we end up with Trump back in the White House.

@gooser__43 4 күн бұрын

That tells you all you need to know about democrats.

@stephenbailey9969 4 күн бұрын

@@gooser__43 Old generation holding on isn't just about one party or politics. It's about a lot of human behavior. No old guy wants to give up the car keys, until he has an accident.

@gooser__43 4 күн бұрын

@stephenbailey9969 the Republicans have real primaries, and due to that, Republicans have a deep bench. Their Governor Abbott would be the next nominee if he was not paralyzed. Who do the democrats have? Non of the younger democrats poll well against Trump. After Trump, many younger democrats will poll well against inexperienced or unlikable democrats. Westchester's AOC has more name recognition than Whitmer and both will run 🏃‍♀️; who will all those young socialist pick? How will Westchester's AOC do against J.D. Vance or DeSantis?

@milk_bath 3 күн бұрын

Who would you nominate?

@stephenbailey9969 3 күн бұрын

@@milk_bath A number of governors outside of DC to choose from: Whitmer, Walz, Shapiro, Cooper, Newsom, etc.

@n3ak3 4 күн бұрын

Missed opportunity to name your episode "conventional wisdom".

@daniellove162 4 күн бұрын

I was thinking, GATE KEEPERS.

@cassandratq9301 Күн бұрын

🎯

@anthonykadjei007 17 сағат бұрын

It's More Like how Centrist keep pandering to Republicans while Blaming Progressive for Democrats failure

@9000ck 4 күн бұрын

This open convention stuff sounds exciting and potentially even inspiring. This was tradition in American politics; the excitement of actual democracy. It would be massive free media exposure as well. trump will look like the tired corrupt hasbeen that he is - repeating his 10 tired hate filled talking points in comparison. Bring the excitement and pageantry. This is what America does best - inspiring entertainment - think Steven Spielberg as the democrats vs Jerry Springer as the republicans.

@Seansmithish 4 күн бұрын

This is such a delusional orwellian take ots crazy

@WackadoodleMalarkey 4 күн бұрын

Adventure? Excitement? A jedi craves not these things

@gooser__43 4 күн бұрын

Ashley Biden's writing ✍️ are available on the internet; that's the Jerry Springer life.

@gooser__43 4 күн бұрын

But then again, Democrats do have many very old lizzards.

@9000ck 4 күн бұрын

@@Seansmithish Well clearly you think dementia 'I beat medicare' Joe is going to win, that sounds utterly delusional to me, sweetie. When he loses to trump, people like you will be to blame. Enjoy project 2025 :).

@stephenjansen9475 3 күн бұрын

I think that Elaine sounds elitist. I think she fails to understand that millions of democrats across the country have been polled and a majority of them never wanted Biden a second term. I think that she fails to mention that the part canceled several primaries, didn't allow people to vote, and the party bosses never allowed debates or a fair and true primary. If the Party took it upon themselves to just nominate whoever they wanted? There would be anger as a result of that. And her comment was pretty outrageous when she said that Super Delegates were not elite. Yes they are. Corrupt, elected, delegate politicians who have been bought by corporate donors in their states are members of the Elite in this country.

@ktermalkut8332 11 сағат бұрын

biden has put out an add asking for donations claiming that we must be PROUD of his debate performance - I was aghast to think that the dem establishment thinks people are so dumb. It is interesting that the WI supreme court REINSTATED ballot drop boxes - sounds strange:)

@Beastw1ck 4 күн бұрын

Keep fighting the good fight, Ezra! Move that Overton window! This needs to happen!

@TheWHIGJr 4 күн бұрын

Bad time to find out it’s rigged! 😅

@shelleycurtiss3857 4 күн бұрын

Tell us how to effectively demand Joe Biden step down. The gaslighting is sickening.

@gigabix 3 күн бұрын

Not gonna happen. Hold your water and vote.

@WhyTheHorseface 3 күн бұрын

Why do you want him to step down? He’s omnipotent now! He can have anyone disappeared as an official act, and if it’s contested in any way by survivors (of which there should be zero to few), he’ll likely be dead before trial.

@cdavidlake2 3 күн бұрын

Except that up until last week all Democrats were engaging in it.

@mattyeager7679 15 сағат бұрын

Funny how you left wingers went from "He's totally fine!!!" to "We need to replace him quickly!!!" at the drop of a hat. You stand for nothing.

@jeremiahchamberlin4499 4 күн бұрын

Very informative; thank you for refreshing my memory and perhaps educating me a bit, since I didn’t know as much about politics generally then as I do now.

@janpierzchala2004 4 күн бұрын

He can't! We can!

@toninichols2984 3 күн бұрын

Prayers that this show recorded earlier this year represents foresight of what is soon to come for the Democrats

@jarrodf_ 4 күн бұрын

Can we have an open primary for NYT eds and contributors?

@nathanielparker4421 3 күн бұрын

BS, MD, GC and TF are all bloviatores with crusty blow holes

@ryanlasalle4414 22 сағат бұрын

Only once did a major party NOT renominate a sitting president. Franklin Pierce 14th president was not renominated for re election. They nominated James Buchanan instead. Buchanan went on to win the presidency

@aynrandish9106 4 күн бұрын

Why would assume that California would go for Newsom? Harris is from California too.

@user-kz3nq9js5q 3 күн бұрын

Because CA remembers Harris. There's no way in hell she'll ever get my vote directly. I almost didn't vote for the Biden ticket last time because of her. She's a terrible person.

@aynrandish9106 3 күн бұрын

@@user-kz3nq9js5q yes she is but so is Newsom. I live here not far from the Bay Area and he has destroyed my home state. Choose a candidate closer to the middle ideologically and geographically.

@user-kz3nq9js5q 3 күн бұрын

@@aynrandish9106 I mean, he's been p center right inline with where Biden is, despite the propaganda about Biden being "the most progressive". Newsom is obviously try'n to recoup his image and appear more "moderate" which is why the CAs that I know are all pissed at him.

@jessmc90 2 күн бұрын

@@aynrandish9106I’m in California too. No way in hell I want him ruining more than he has

@cassandratq9301 23 сағат бұрын

I'm glad she addressed our current situation- primaries over.

@DLYChicago 2 күн бұрын

"Don't back no losers" and "We don't want nobody nobody sent".

@AdoptionLawSourceTrinity 3 күн бұрын

Amazing podcast! Thank you!

@cassandratq9301 23 сағат бұрын

Never heard that clip of Johnson before - especially after hearing Kennedy's response. This interview is VERY useful.

@xyz12345457 3 күн бұрын

Everyone should listen to this today. Your guest is about my age and I remember those open conventions very well. They weren't as undemocratic as Ezra tries to claim. The smoke filled rooms he objects to haven't changed that much, other than the smoking.

@tomlakosh1833 3 күн бұрын

One of the President's core constitutional duties is to "...preserve, protect and defend the Constitution..." and that includes defending the Constitution’s Electoral College provisions under Article II, Section 1, Clause 3, which DJT clearly sought to defeat with the "Green Bay Sweep". The organized use of private attorneys and WH staff to produce and transmit forged elector slates, which were designed to induce VP Pence to reject the valid elector slates as well, is a blatant violation of DJT’s “core constitutional duties” that should lead to his prosecution pursuant to 18 USC § 1001 for the false swearing of his federal oath of office. This abrogation of oath and violation of the election interference statute 52 USC § 10307, could also be the basis for disqualification of DJT’s presidential electors in a contest of those ascertainments issued post-election pursuant to 3 U.S.C. § 5(d).

@stacythomas5072 20 сағат бұрын

Thank you for that. And I believe precisely what 45 is being charged with. Although delayed. And somehow that trial being questioned due th recent Supreme Court decision. But notcsure what the confusion is here. Attempting a coup is clearly not an "official" duty of the president.

@audreymuzingo933 2 күн бұрын

This has taken me from terrified to kinda stoked. The idea of seeing something like this happen for the first time in so long. Can you even IMAGINE how thrilled high school and college History and Government teachers would be to have their students witness it in real time? Thanks Ezra!

@americanexpat8792 4 күн бұрын

As a guy in his mid-60s, I remember these conventions. It was the norm for 100 years, so it's good that Ezra is educating the public. This is not a big deal. In fact, it's a better process than the primaries. The bosses back then would pick a candidate that they knew could win.

@jeffhreid 4 күн бұрын

Don’t kid yourself, party bosses picking a candidate isn’t democratic

@americanexpat8792 3 күн бұрын

@@jeffhreid As she did a good job explaining in the interview, it's democracy in a different form. Everybody that participates in the process has been elected in one way or the other. That's called representative democracy.

@jeffhreid 3 күн бұрын

@@americanexpat8792delegates need not hold, and often don’t hold , any elected office. Donors and party officials are frequently delegates. You’re saying something that is demonstrably not correct

@americanexpat8792 3 күн бұрын

@@jeffhreid Listen to the video. She talks about how they are selected in there.

@jumblyman 3 күн бұрын

If the Dems can’t find it in themselves to nominate someone new they deserve to lose.

@mattyeager7679 15 сағат бұрын

So...why don't you left wingers care that you get no say in this? It's like you don't understand what a Democracy is yet you've been screaming it at the top of your lungs for a decade or two. Left wing voters get NO SAY once again like in 2020. The Democrats will install who the DONOR CLASS WANT so they can screw America over harder. You left wingers are evil and you support it.

@jeffhreid 4 күн бұрын

Democrats twisting themselves into a pretzel trying to justify party bosses anointing their presidential candidate.

@lisalyle4440 3 күн бұрын

This was great and answered a lot of questions!

@brianbendett 4 күн бұрын

Didn’t this guy make a whole video detailing how Covid was from a wet market with such an air of authority?

@jazzfan7491 4 күн бұрын

He doesn’t make videos. You’re thinking of someone else.

@CGW129 4 күн бұрын

To be fair, that’s still the leading theory about the origins of COVID-19. The lab leak hypothesis is still wanting evidence. It’s a plausible source of the leak but it’s not set in stone. If you knew about epidemiology, you’d know how many novel zoonotic viruses originate from those tightly knit wet-market environments.

@connor5669 3 күн бұрын

There's zero evidence for the lab leak theory. So idk why you thought this was a dunk

@mattyeager7679 15 сағат бұрын

@@connor5669 Their is 100% evidence for it. Stop watching MSNBC, Fox, and CNN. I bet you took all of those jabs too...didn't you? Still wearing a mask?

@mattyeager7679 15 сағат бұрын

@@connor5669 Was already proven that the wet market was a sham cover up. Keep taking those jabs, lefty.

@cassandratq9301 23 сағат бұрын

Charisma matters - especially against Trump.

@privacylock855 3 күн бұрын

Ruth Bader Ginsberg, anyone?

@MG-ge5xq 4 күн бұрын

Yeah, something like that would be a good idea.

@christianwemoboi 23 сағат бұрын

I love how she touched on how peolle forget we are a republic, all be it a democratic one, but a republic

@9000ck 17 сағат бұрын

With the latest SCOTUS decision, you are moving toward a monarchy with the president having absolute power. Which means: no republic and no democracy.

@gsglisson Күн бұрын

They say under the current rules only Biden can make the choice to step down. Can't the DNC rules be changed to otherwise? Why not add a vote of no confidence to override Primary results at convention?

@mahadali2739 4 күн бұрын

I think the Elaine Karmarck is really out of touch when she says “the democratic divisions are not that deep.” People aren’t chanting “Genocide Joe” because they have slight disagreements.

@connor5669 3 күн бұрын

Thank you. She's very liberal, and ignorant of the farther left

@charleselmore4707 3 күн бұрын

Good conversation. I feel like I learned a lot

@AnnetteKapple 3 күн бұрын

Lady Macbeth needs to let Biden know it's over.

@MekonenMeteor123 4 күн бұрын

Wait wait Marian Williamson was a sharp woman wtf lol

@PoliticsAndCoffee_1865 3 күн бұрын

This fool out his photo like fr 😅John 🤣

@skidcaesar 3 күн бұрын

I'd be a moron without Ezra and his guests.

@ralphl7643 3 күн бұрын

Now (July 2) you have the worst problem you two didn't consider: an obviously incompetent nominee who won't step aside. Since the Dems voted him in knowing he was already in decline and a selfish, nasty piece of work, you got what you deserve. What you did talk about was interesting, but it might not apply. Can the DNC release pledged delegates before the first vote?

@janepappas1032 4 күн бұрын

She is comparing Donald Trump to Marianne Williamson? She clearly has never even listened to her speak. She was measured, thoughtful, yet inspiring. She may have done very well if she had a hearing on TV in a real primary.

@ChrisMissal 4 күн бұрын

Agreed. I think the comparison was based on "pedigree" :\

@milk_bath 3 күн бұрын

I like her as a person, but not as a president.

@cassandratq9301 23 сағат бұрын

"In an extraordinary circumstance the people would understand." Yes! I'm a registered Democrat still angry that Eugene McCarthy was passed over in 1968, Bernie Sanders was treated like garbage in 2016 + cheated in 2020 - and I'm fine with "anybody but Harris" - how we get there doesn't matter to me. WE MUST WIN.

@cassandratq9301 Күн бұрын

Good question on this year's primary!

@Josh-dp1uw 3 күн бұрын

I'm on board if you put Whitmer on the ticket. I get it. We need more enthusiasm and Whitmer is the one to do it.

@yuliaaguila8880 4 күн бұрын

As someone who agrees that he should drop out - stop trying to make fetch happen bud, it's not going to happen.

@connor5669 3 күн бұрын

Can't help by feel that Elaine has a liberal antidemocratic tendency. It feels like the inverse of conservatives supporting the electoral college.

@arcanernz 3 күн бұрын

Why wouldn’t Biden wait for the delegates to be collected then he steps down and Harris would automatically be the presidential candidate as well as president.

@joshntn37111 3 күн бұрын

That picture of Ezra is beyond nightmare fuel.

@yesfredfredburger8008 3 күн бұрын

Easy answer: Suddenly, haphazardly, with poor planning, no reliable leadership, and too full of petty infighting and bickering to deliver good public service to the public.

@cassandratq9301 Күн бұрын

Would CA split between Newsome + Harris?

@cassandratq9301 Күн бұрын

OK, I got this answered. CA would split - except I think Harris's support is less than half. EVERYbody wants to WIN!

@phil20_20 4 сағат бұрын

He just needs to name Kamala Harris at the Convention. Simple as that. The voters won't tolerate anything else.

@trudyschnabel4497 20 сағат бұрын

For the sake of political 'comity' and general civility these days, here the 70-mins (ex 'loud-mouth') HOWARD STERN Interview with President Biden of a few months back - a decent conversation with nothing 'wrong': kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fOBkaNZ-x5rOo2w.html

@podpoe Күн бұрын

why bother with the delegates? let the people vote directly.

@liberty-matrix 3 күн бұрын

Just like Bernie during the 2016 DNC Convention, the fix is in, there will be No Open Democratic Convention.

@cassandratq9301 Күн бұрын

Wes Moore. Cory Booker.

@user-pl4pz2xn2c 3 күн бұрын

game over democrats

@cassandratq9301 Күн бұрын

The Democratic Party is not going to fracture - they understand the dangers of Trump.

@hadiza1 4 күн бұрын

💙💙💙

@alexyoung3609 4 күн бұрын

👍

@janpierzchala2004 4 күн бұрын

Yes we can! He can't

@plumerjr 3 күн бұрын

I hope Ezra's put on a good waterproof mattress cover for all the bed-wetting he's been doing lately.

@ryanlasalle4414 3 күн бұрын

It has happened once where a sitting president was not nominated for re election . Franklin pierce (14 president) was not nominated BY DEMOCRATS for er election They nominated James Buchanan ALSO DEMOCRAT and buchanan went on to win

@jimAthompsonfuel4u 4 күн бұрын

Really good discourse, small series examining Dems "there's nothing to see here.." aloofness post- Biden's long obvious decline..

@cassandratq9301 Күн бұрын

The Trump ads alone would take Harris down. There's too much footage of her sounding ridiculous.

@cassandratq9301 23 сағат бұрын

Not to mention Trump's clever use of misogyny.

@flaviodrusovalerio2825 4 күн бұрын

Same podcast of 4 months ago. 😅

@brian5001 4 күн бұрын

It feels like the only reason for this is to make your editorial board feel important, thanks for helping make things worse.

@ChrisMissal 4 күн бұрын

Haha, cry more. Biden sucks, any Dem can beat Trump

@delorespeterson5954 4 күн бұрын

Be careful not to alienate your teammates you disagree with. You need their votes

@linguaphile42 3 күн бұрын

Exactly. Something is going on at NYT, and I hope WaPo does some undercover to find out what it is. No one has been as rabid for Joe to drop out as The Grey Lady editorial board. Just want to know why. Good odds it's really petty, though.

@r8chlletters 3 күн бұрын

This is a disgusting situation and is utterly intolerable. I’d happily vote for Jill or Hillary in fact why not have a double ticket with women. Kamala is horrible and Joe is incapable. Come on, we did the mercy vote last time don’t force us again!!!

@linguaphile42 3 күн бұрын

That mercy vote got us a great cabinet and administration, loads of positive legislation, and a roaring economy that has really eased my fears for retirement. Look at the 13 Keys to the Presidency and tell me who else could have nine of them like Biden does.

@italythroughmyeyes 4 күн бұрын

How was trump chosen then?

@gooser__43 4 күн бұрын

Normal primary process

@jeffhreid 4 күн бұрын

By the voters.

@christianwemoboi 23 сағат бұрын

super delegates not ending up relevant in 2016 is a hilarious , but almost gross, simplication imo great interview though

@Sturgeon54 3 күн бұрын

Enough, Ezra - this isn't Bernie Sanders vs Hilary again. People already chose Biden in the Primaries, Dems lose the incumbency-advantage if he goes, and his team is solid enough even if he were incapacitated.

@Pafemanti 3 күн бұрын

I agree. There is no magical way out of this. Besides, Biden isn't actually senile - he just didn't do well at debate. But he has his marbles, I dare say probably more than Trump.

@stephensuddick1896 4 күн бұрын

Well, it wouldn't work. Wake up.

@Josh-dp1uw 3 күн бұрын

Whitmer would win it. She's light like a feather. The people deserve a reprieve from constant drama. Let's make this bread.

@BleakVision 4 күн бұрын

Oh Ezra, this is going to blow over. Biden stays, and the media falls in line. It always happens and you will like it.

@richietattersall2122 4 күн бұрын

IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!@

@wignet Күн бұрын

Hahahahahaha 🎉

@jlpowell51 4 күн бұрын

Making Mexico "pay for the wall" is done by trade negotiation. If you negotiate a better trade agreement the "profit" from that "pays" for the wall.

@SmilesPerGallon- 4 күн бұрын

I speak for myself and literally dozens of other Americans in saying Joe Biden is fully capable of winning in 2024.

@michaeldeaton 4 күн бұрын

I still think if it comes down to turn out and GOTV effort, Biden wins by default. Trump campaign GOTV effort this year has been handed over to Lara Trump at the RNC (lol) and Charlie Kirk's Turning Points USA organization, which is just a giant fraudulent grift organization with no background in GOTV organization worth mentioning except when they lost Arizona for Kari Lake. Ill take Obama/Biden's mailing list and GOTV effort to Charlie Kirks every single day of the week times ten.

@delorespeterson5954 3 күн бұрын

Your head is in sand

@delorespeterson5954 3 күн бұрын

It’s more like single digits

@SmilesPerGallon- 3 күн бұрын

@@delorespeterson5954 I bet I could find a dozen people. At least 9.

@AbcDino843 4 күн бұрын

Back to election porn, I see.

@christopherstewart9874 4 күн бұрын

Same as 1968 (also in Chicago). Loud, messy and resulting in a Republican President. 1968 gave us Richard Nixon.

@michaeldeaton 4 күн бұрын

This is exactly why there are many amongst the ruling class in the media pushing for this. They know there's more money in the Trump chaos, even if it costs America her soul. The almighty dollar continues to be the root of all evil.

@christinarose3002 11 сағат бұрын

Bernie was robbed foe sho

@omurtasar7852 3 күн бұрын

Why don't you analyze Trump's performance!!

@franiadams7123 Күн бұрын

You will be responsible for trump .its disgusting

@Pidxr 4 күн бұрын

Yeah, this isn't a thing since 7/1 cowards

@christinarose3002 11 сағат бұрын

The way you guys are talking about this is so gross. Money grubs.

@christinarose3002 11 сағат бұрын

You would have such good ratings. 👎

@jhl72 4 күн бұрын

Ezra's fan fiction

@leemarkley8496 3 күн бұрын

There is one silver lining : The US Supreme court just handed President Biden the solution on a silver platter. He can send Seal Team Six to take out Trump AND the six idiots on the court. I say Do it Joe, for the good of the country.

@Pafemanti 3 күн бұрын

He can use this decision as an opportunity to frame himself as anti-authoritarian. He can pledge legislation to put better limits on presidential immunity, in addition to getting govt out of women's uteruses, and that his future Court appointments will not make this situation worse.