How and when do you replace stove door rope?

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The Tortoise

The Tortoise

Күн бұрын

This video is a breakdown of when and how to replace fire rope seals. I've done it in one take in the hope that it might give you some confidence to give it ago yourselves. Chimney sweeps are often very helpful if you can't face it alone, but if you have any questions please leave me a comment.

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@GHOOGLEMALE
@GHOOGLEMALE 5 ай бұрын
About to embark on my first rope change - I'm really glad I came across your video in my research for doing it, I'm now a lot more confident in getting it right first time! Thanks
@brandnlogo
@brandnlogo 9 ай бұрын
Just changed the ropes for the first time. Great guide, bought one of your rope kits too. 👍 made it easy.
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 9 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, really glad to hear that!!!
@ashleyarbour5236
@ashleyarbour5236 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, this was super helpful!
@logotrikes
@logotrikes 2 жыл бұрын
To prevent siezing threads in these vulnerable places, a smear of copper anti-sieze on the threads will do the business and make unscrewing much less hit and miss...
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
big fan of copper grease, sounds like a great idea if you’ve got some.
@davidireland3194
@davidireland3194 Жыл бұрын
Thxs. Yet another informative and simple vid to follow.
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot.
@lastcosmic
@lastcosmic Жыл бұрын
Thank you. That was informative and entertaining ❤️
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@pauladiggle7983
@pauladiggle7983 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, this has been really useful. I would normally have only bought the manufacturer's product but you sounded so genuine when appraising the rope you developed that I decided to go for it! I would love a video which shows how to clean my one door Highlander 10. I don't really mean the glass but rather the inside. I do my best but it seems very awkward trying to get the ash from the top of the plate where the smoke goes up the chimney. I can't access it properly but maybe I'm missing some instructions. I wasn't left any by the company who installed it while I was away on holiday. Thanks again for this video; I've bookmarked it!
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 8 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. I am producing some other videos about our rope kits, but thanks a lot for your order. In terms of a video of your stove, if I ever get the opportunity to test it I definitely will!
@patrickokeeffe6998
@patrickokeeffe6998 Жыл бұрын
Excellent... Great advice
@michaelhoran1816
@michaelhoran1816 9 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for a very clear instructive video.. 👏👏👍
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 9 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@MegaSweep1
@MegaSweep1 2 жыл бұрын
It's usually easier for the general public to ask the chimney sweep to service the stove at the same time we clean the flue,if using the silicone its best to leave it a while to dry before you fire it up,Another great video,as part of the service I personally just loosen and nip back up the screws for the glass to stop them seizing
@mightyconker3903
@mightyconker3903 8 ай бұрын
Most silicone sealants can't handle stove temp
@Sharon-cb6zt
@Sharon-cb6zt 6 ай бұрын
Thank you- great video
@hondaredridersteam
@hondaredridersteam 9 ай бұрын
very detailed, thanks!
@willllllssey
@willllllssey Жыл бұрын
informative and detailed thankyou
@bootsmclaughlin1438
@bootsmclaughlin1438 Жыл бұрын
Just what i was lookin for.... great video thanks very much... and gob bless
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot.
@funkyprepper
@funkyprepper 9 ай бұрын
Great video. Im about to do mine as its burning too fast. Ive ordered the rope sets from the manufacturer (hunter) and on the look out for glue. Possibly a wire brush attachment for the drill like yours too. Ill check the links in the description box before i go on the lookout for said items. Thanks again for your advice 😊
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 9 ай бұрын
Awesome. We’ve started selling rope kits too if you ever need anything: thetortoise.net/collections/rope-kits
@chejohnny3706
@chejohnny3706 Жыл бұрын
appreciate the conversation
@melvis2017
@melvis2017 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great job very simple and easy and quick u make me saving me time and money appreciations 🇩🇰👍👌
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 9 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@brianchristie1055
@brianchristie1055 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - just the kind of helpful walk around I needed before doing the door on MIL's little Aga. I used Cal Super Seal, which I was slightly surprised to see was cream-coloured as opposed to the black you used. It was also quite runny, despite a damn good shaking (as per the bottle). Presumably it was okay. I just expected it to be more like a paste. Seems to have done the trick though so far. I shall be keeping a beady eye on it.
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
I prefer to use silicone based stuff, but I have used the Super Seal. As you say it is runny which is why I don’t prefer it, but it works fine.
@wittywoo9559
@wittywoo9559 Жыл бұрын
Great video .. lash it up the dining table and grind the shite ouve it !!! Love it
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
Haha, yea probably best to avoid the 5 second rule round here.
@gandl2123
@gandl2123 7 ай бұрын
Do you have a video and instructions/recommendations for just replacing a piece of glass? I have an Appalachian Stove that has three 6"x11"? pieces of glass in the front door. One of them has shattered or otherwise broken and needs replacing. Where do I purchase such a glass in the U.S / Ebay/ Etc..? and how do I just replace the glass? Tks
@AnthonyLauder
@AnthonyLauder Жыл бұрын
Wow - sticking self-adhesive glass seal to the metal of the door was eye opening for me. I thought the sticky side went on to the glass.
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
Either would work to be fair.
@annemariecraw4787
@annemariecraw4787 Жыл бұрын
Great informative videos. We have a westfire uniq 17 (now westfire 44 according to one of your videos) and want to replace the door rope. We think it is 13mm, but our door doesn't appear to show any signs of glue being used at all. The rope just appears to be pressed into the groove. This is how it came from the factory, we have owned it from new. Would you recommend fitting the new rope with glue or do we just press it in as it was before?
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
A lot of westfires rope is just pressure fit rather than glue. It makes fitting and removing nice and easy. I would do the same, no need for glue 👍.
@annemariecraw4787
@annemariecraw4787 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTortoise many thanks 😉
@christinephillips9709
@christinephillips9709 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the very informative video, im about to renew the rope on my fire. I wonder if youcan help me please, the screws for the glass need repacing the brackets are ok but i am having trouble sourcing them. I have a fire fox 5 i have looked on line i can get them at a stupid price £13 +£13pp an horrendous price for 4 screws and brackets!! Maybe yourself or someone might just know where i can go. Thank you once again.
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 10 ай бұрын
We’ve started selling rope and glass kits on our website. So if you message us on there we should be able to supply ropes for this without a problem. With regard to the screws I would take an old screw to my local hardware store and they should have them (it’ll be a standard size). The brackets can be almost anything, so nothing too special required. A lot of people will use something as simple as a metal washer, just as long as it laps over the glass to retain it. Just don’t do them up too tight!!!
@vincentcassidy9731
@vincentcassidy9731 Жыл бұрын
Hi Gariel That looks like my door on my double door Hunter Herald 4 shaped glass, do you know the size diameter of the rope, I need to replace mine
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
There are several sized ropes on these doors, but I tend to use 13mm soft rope for the main door.
@richbarr4865
@richbarr4865 Жыл бұрын
hi there, great video. im struggling to get my vision 500 to seal evenly on refining the door, whats the procedure from scratch on re fitting the door and adjusting,?once the ropes been changed. ive lost count of how many turns ive got on each adjusting hinge etc. and im now a bit confused....appreciate your advice
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
If it’s all in a muddle then I would do it by eye from the side of the stove. Slowly wind them in until the door meets the body evenly on the top and bottom. Then typically do one more half or full turn in, and then wind the door handle until the handle side again meets the body evenly. If the hinges are too tight and are pushing the handle out then wind them both out 1 turn (which should maintain evenness). It is a little stop start if you’ve got confused, but definitely worth it in the end.
@richbarr4865
@richbarr4865 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTortoise Brilliant, thanks! got it done now. perfect. 👍
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
@@richbarr4865 excellent, glad you got somewhere.
@bmbpdk
@bmbpdk 5 ай бұрын
Hello, thanks for a great video! Does the glue need heat/a burn to cure or does it work as ordinary glue?
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 5 ай бұрын
just leave it for an hour and you'll be away, it doesn't need to cure.
@ianmatlock1
@ianmatlock1 Жыл бұрын
do you have to replace the glass seal with the door seal if the former looks completely fine.
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
No, if the rope is alright, just leave it.
@RC-gf8hh
@RC-gf8hh Жыл бұрын
Hi Gabriel & community. We own a beautiful old Fisher Grandma Wood Stove. We have searched for doors that have glass but it’s hard to find. I was wondering if something like the door you are working on (10:56) May fit our stove. Not sure. I can get you the exact dimensions of the grandma doors to see if there are any to your knowledge that may fit. Question is open to the community as well.
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
Unless Fisher make doors with glass, this will be a very difficult find. Stoves don’t tend to be flat, they normally have shape and the doors are carefully matched, so finding other doors that fit is a nearly impossible task. The more practical route would be to take the existing doors to a metal worker and have him cut a hole etc, this is a pretty simple task, and will be far safer too.
@stanlee5766
@stanlee5766 4 ай бұрын
If the glass can move is it a tight enough air seal to prevent smoke leakage? Got me worried now that I’ve tightened mine up (not overly tight) but have I done it tight enough for a good air seal but “not tight enough “ for ease of expansion….help!!!!!
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 4 ай бұрын
Definitely don’t over tighten. Stoves are designed to leak, so trying to seal them is pointless. You won’t get any leakage around the glass as it’s easier to leak out of the door or the air vents, so don’t worry about it. Leaks on stoves let air in, getting smoke out would only happen if you had a chimney/draw issue so it’s not something you should be struggling with.
@alexross2671
@alexross2671 Жыл бұрын
Hey super informative video!!!! Where do you get the tape to wrap the end of the rope please?
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
Most shops should sell this with the ropes, otherwise I’d expect to see it online under “stove rope end sealing tape”.
@alexross2671
@alexross2671 Жыл бұрын
@The Tortoise thanks a million for the quick response. Much appreciated!
@88Geordieh
@88Geordieh 9 ай бұрын
Firstly...why ruin a perfectly good table by not placing cushioning/cardboard under the door. Secondly , instead of sticking the glass flat rope/gasket to the inside of the door which may not be perfectly flat and dirt free. You clean the glass and stick it directly onto the glass for a better adhesive contact. And Thirdly, when tightening the glass clips in place you place a small piece of asbestos padding or glass gasket tape the same size of the clip...between the clip and glass. This is great in allowing for any heat expansion of the clips.
@topsealing851
@topsealing851 2 жыл бұрын
Good way
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I just checked out your channel, do you supply stove ropes?
@topsealing851
@topsealing851 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTortoise Do you mean ceramic fiber rope?
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
@@topsealing851 possibly?
@Jesse-dn2ut
@Jesse-dn2ut 2 жыл бұрын
Which glue do you use?
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
I used one by Calfire, but any heat silicon works perfectly. They tend to be black and rated for 300C, I’ve actually tested using normal silicon and even bathroom sealant purely for interest sake and even with a stove at full temperature they performed perfectly. Didn’t think it was something I could recommend though 😁
@Jesse-dn2ut
@Jesse-dn2ut 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTortoise ah! Nice to know. I have 300c silicone as well we haven’t used it for the rope seals, but I’ll give it a try after seeing this. Nice one!
@focusfanatic123
@focusfanatic123 7 ай бұрын
Do you have your own site for items like this?
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 7 ай бұрын
We do: thetortoise.net/
@user-ol5dv3cl5n
@user-ol5dv3cl5n 7 ай бұрын
Just done mine, hunter hawk 4. A word of caution, the glass rope, especially the old rope can cause skin iritation and you with bare arms ! Long sleeved shirt or overalls would be safer. Fit door immediatly after installing rope and latch closed, this will bed the rope in the sealer or glue, leave for a while then light a small fire and allow to warm slowly - job done !
@etabetta1
@etabetta1 7 күн бұрын
alls get a now all
@1markdrums
@1markdrums Жыл бұрын
Hi Gabriel My Lowry 5x smells when I burn ht new pallet As well as kiln dried wood Old pallet and seasoned doesn’t smell as much Please help The stove isn’t too hot either and smells as bad but gets worse the hotter
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
Couple days f questions: What does it smell of? How old is the stove? Is it in a fireplace or free standing? How old is the house and is the chimney lined (assuming it’s in a chimney)?
@1markdrums
@1markdrums Жыл бұрын
@@TheTortoise Hi it’s a year old on Wednesday In a fireplace with a new liner I don’t know because I’ve never smelled anything like that
@1markdrums
@1markdrums Жыл бұрын
I sell stoves but I haven’t come across a smell like it It seems it could be the the inside That’s the only thing I can think of
@1markdrums
@1markdrums Жыл бұрын
House is 30/40s
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
@@1markdrums I’ve had something similar when a dog dropped a toy behind a stove. It took a while to smell, but the longer it was on or the hotter, the more it stank. Took us ages to find, but that was an acrid plasticky smell “vile”! Particularly given the age, this has to be an external factor (something on or near the stove). You could get it hot and try and smell if it is something in the chimney above the register plate, but otherwise I’d try and use a mirror to check behind the stove, or underneath.
@julianadam216
@julianadam216 Жыл бұрын
How do you know if the rope is asbestos?
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
The vast majority of very old stoves didn’t use ropes at all, and glass fibre ropes have been being used for about 25 years at least. But if you have an old stove then always best to assume the worst.
@julianadam216
@julianadam216 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTortoise Thanks for your reply! Very helpful.
@CoconutandFamily
@CoconutandFamily 8 ай бұрын
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@utubejester
@utubejester Жыл бұрын
How do you know if the door of the wood burning stove is leaking and how do you find where the leak is?
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
The simple test is shutting paper in the door. If it easily slides out then it’s leaking, if there is some resistance then that’s okay. If it holds the paper and it won’t move then it is very sealed, this normally only happens with new ropes.
@xxxBKBxxx
@xxxBKBxxx Жыл бұрын
another trick to see air leaking doors: with the wood stove burning well, light a (preferably long) match and run it along the seam, when you see the flame being directed towards the seam you know where it is drawing ourside air :-)
@DavidMartin-ym2te
@DavidMartin-ym2te 10 ай бұрын
How did you get away with using the drill in the dining room?!
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 10 ай бұрын
The key is forgiveness rather than permission 😬
@gordonma78
@gordonma78 Жыл бұрын
How were your blood sugars at the time ? Been there .. done much worse ...
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
Honestly can’t remember. I think my worst day my mother in law found me kicking my door with my keys on the floor in the car park. I think I was trying to get in, but couldn’t work out how to do it 😬. That Libre has sorted that out now, life is much easier with that piece of kit!
@andreypolyakov9410
@andreypolyakov9410 Ай бұрын
Use safety glasses if don`t want get wire in your eye
@andrewthomas405
@andrewthomas405 Жыл бұрын
Mask and goggles are a very good idea
@etabetta1
@etabetta1 7 күн бұрын
rubbish
@MK-pm5sc
@MK-pm5sc 8 ай бұрын
Good video, should you wear a mask???
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise 8 ай бұрын
Could be a good idea.
@adelejones3746
@adelejones3746 Жыл бұрын
But don't do it on your dining room table.?
@TheTortoise
@TheTortoise Жыл бұрын
Good advice! Amy
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