Edit: Hey to those of you I told the Servo doesn't stack with Vitality, this in fact actually not true they do stack but not in the way you might expect. I'll have a full video on limb health and how injury works soon! Took awhile to get the graphics together for this one but glad to bring you guys yet more nerd numbers. Thanks for watching and as always my favorite comment will be featured at the end of the next video!

WAIT A MINUTE!! the bile spewers vomit attack, the thing that gets me killed ALL THE TIME, is EXPLOSIVE!??!?!?!? WHAT?!? never, in a thousand years would I think a stream of vomit would do the same damage as a grenade

Acid being categorized as explosive damage is the most useful thing ive ever heard i will run light armor fortified from now on for bugs

Just leaving a comment here so General Brasch doesnt nerf the vitality booster.

10:17 Wait, so you're telling me I should have been running Fortified on bug missions and Extra padding on bots?! I've been doing the opposite! How Many Other Lies Have I Been Told By The Council?!

It's crazy how useless the in game info is. We're missing so much information like planet supply lines, durable damage, and some booster descriptions. I didn't even know armor had such obscure mechanics

Nice touch finally having your model talk to the camera instead of just having a stream clip of talking to chat or the people you're playing with in the background.

Would really appreciate a guide for where to shoot enemies. Which limbs have most/ least hp, different armor/DR types, etc

Phenomenal breakdown of armor. Been playing for hundreds of hours more than I ever should and by experience it lines up with everything you said. Never knew vitality added a reduction multiplier. Just attributed it 20% extra health but never felt it was accurate. Keep pumping out the nerd info content. I really appreciate your effort.

MORE NERD NUMBERS YES

Cool breakdown. Recently switched from the kodiak to the fortified commando and definitely noticed a significant difference when taking rockets to the face. Thought it was my imagination, but this kinda confirms it.

I love the detailed breakdowns!

You showed B-01 Tactical as your example for 100 armor value, but that armor has 150 armor value due to Extra Padding.

tried the marshmallow armor, you can actually feel the difference and im not talking the speed difference lmao. you can actually get swarmed by hunters and come out relatively fine or the stuck in a bullet storm and walk it off, plus fire doesnt evaporate you, still hurts though lol. once vehicles come into the game the big downside of speed will be much more tolerable

Probably the most INFORMATIVE Video yet. And yet I must ask "WHY IS THIS NOT IN GAME!" Just like I ask WHY IS THEIR NOT A BEASTEY TERMINAL ON OUR SHIP!

I've always been running the Light Gunner armor just cause I liked the simple paramilitary look to it. And to boot it has Max speed and stamina like Trailblazer, but with extra padding bringing it to 100 armor. It is literal perfection as far as I care.

Nice to know that the Fortified light armor from the superstore is actually beneficial, taking less explosive damage than non-Fortified heavy armor. Feels like a justified purchase now. Edit: Lmao, never mind, got to the part of the video that talks about explosive projectiles. Oof. Guess I should be on the lookout for the Extra Padding light armor in the superstore.

This is why i really wish they would just give us exactly what boosters do. For the longest time due to so many videos saying so, i thought the vitality booster just gave you 20 extra HP. But it being a 20% damage reduction is way more valuable especially for headshots. Thanks for all you do!

what I came for: "so is the light armor with armor padding actually worth using over light armors with other skills, or is it a negligible difference?" what I took away: "the vitality booster was THAT important!?"

so you're telling me there's other armor outside of light scout armor?

It would be nice to see you breakdown what exactly all the boosters do and any interactions with them and Armour Passives. I've heard so many rumours about perks doing stuff thats not listed in the description like Muscle Enhancement reducing stun duration. Pretty nice and informative video regardless.

One of the best explanation videos I've seen on KZfaq ever😂

Your data backs up my observations. Using the B-24 Enforcer armor drastically improved my survivability vs. bots. But I struggled against spewers using the B-08 Light Gunner vs. bugs. Guess I'll run the Enforcer exclusively from now on since it's mathematically best in slot based on these findings. Democracy Protects is just too random for me.

You're making Lady Liberty proud Eravin.

This is HUGE. Thanks for the breakdown!

Literally the thing i needed

Fashion diving is the way to go. Enforcer armour + Dynamo helmet goes HARD. You look like a trooper from the High Republic in Star Wars.

now i know why the eradicator armor is my go to for bugs tks for the info keep those data videos coming i need to know all the numbers

I love the enforcer armor. It feels like a really good spot for being tanky but not being quite as slow as the innate150s. Probably my favorite bot armor, big bonus it's got a fashionable Star Wars trooper look to it and fortified to deal with all the explosions.

Best video on Armor so far I have read

Ur vids are slowly becoming my fav helldiver content on youtube

Thank you for diving into the deep data numbers that make all nerds proud of fellow nerds! 🤓 Love the analytics that you put into your videos and know that it is a labor of love. Most people are thinking of the armor passives in the literal sense and don't think something that is vomited on you that is green would be explosive instead of acid or bile. Their in game descriptions leave a lot to be desired. Thank you for doing this video and i would love to see the breakdown video footage if you have time. 🎉

A lot of words just for me to take away from this that extra padding medium armor is goated. Also shame most everyone thinks vitality booster is just limb damage and nothing else.

What an amazing video. Thanks for the time you put into researching all of this

8:14 I'm noticing something about the numbers here. In the left table look the left column for the numbers 100, 150, and 200. Now take a look at the numbers in the 2nd column. Let C1 be the number in the first column and C2 be the number in the 2nd column. For each of the 3 rows mentioned, we get that (C1 + 100) / 2 = 1 / C2. This means that survivability scales linearly with the armor value. This reminds me of warframe's effective health formula: EHP = basehp * (1 + armor/300). It seems like for each 50 armor above 100, you gain 0.25x of the survivability you had at 100 armor. So at 150 armor you have 1.25x survivability, at 200 armor you have 1.5x. The same goes for the other direction, at 50 armor you have 0.75x survivability and at 0 armor you would have 0.5x (If that existed, but it doesn't). To write this like warframe's formula you would get: EHP = basehp * (1 + armor/100) In this case, basehp is the health you have if you had 0 armor. The intuitive takeaway is: every 100 armor adds one multiple of your base hp to your EHP. Which makes it intuitive that 200 armor has 1.5x as much EHP as 100 armor. ie 1+200/100 = 1.5x (1+100/100)

I love reading the Training Manual Tips in General Brash's voice while the match is loading. It makes them even funnier than they already are! XD

I like this guy. Lore accurate helldiver vtuber. He might as well be cannon.

I suppose that just proves why starter armor is the best armor. It has the armor rating of a heavy armor and stamina booster increases it's sprint speed almost to the level of light armors (those are already at the cap of sprint speed before the booster)

Dude you did a great job on this video. I went in thinking armor is self explained but boy was i wrong. Bile titans deal explosive is wild lmao

Vit booster is so good. Wish my head didnt hurt so much

Looks like extra padding vs robots, and explosive resist vs bugs because of the GD bile spewers. WHY they don't explain damage and perks better is beyond me... Great info here ty!

I am a light armor diver, but having tried the marshmellow man suit for the first time recently I do "get" the appeal. Shouldn't say these things too loudly, but extra padding probably became overpowered when it is on medium or heavy armor after the armor buffs. If only there were some options in the vicinity of one with ~120 and one with ~170 armor via extra padding.

Thank you!!! I wish they made this kinda thing clear in the description

Thank you! 👍🙏🤗 Finally after all those lengthy and difficult to understand breakdowns I have seen we got a short and a simple one :) Now I will reconsider what armour to use on bots missions. I guess I am gonna spend 400 super credits on that heavy extra padding armour. And I will try to use light explosive resistance armour on bugs missions to see how much better I am gonna survive bile spewers and bile titans attacks.

After all the buffs that have been given to heavy armor, the fortified commando+vitality perk has become my favorite armor set

I do like how everyone in the community agrees that the Bonesnapper helmet is the go-to fashion choice to go with the Enforcer armor. It just works so well together, as opposed to the actual Enforcer helmet. That and Stormtrooper vibes ofc

d00d. you did answer my questions! I've been looking n waiting for this very information for months now. so thank you very very much for putting this together.

It is crazy that I have to come to KZfaq to find out this critical information. Maybe it was just me but I always thought vitality booster just prevent your limbs from getting broken. I didn't realize it was a general boost to your armor defense, that's almost as critical as taking the stamina improvement and fully stocked ammo rooster. This game, as much as I like it really needs to have this type of information available in the game so that the gamers know this stuff.

Dude I had no idea the Vitality booster was that impactful on damage values. This changes everything, huge thank you for clarifying this, this info will solve many a debate I have with my four man squad mates lmao

I almost run exclusively the titan armor for looks but idk why as soon as I put a normal full light armor I become an actual npc dying I don’t know if those extra armor values really help,great video regardless

Been favoring the light gunner armor since I first got it and now i know why. I just gotta remember to ALWAYS bring the vitality booster.

This was a really great video. When vs Automatons I like to go full on tank with 150 armour and a shield with explosive resistance. I have been wondering about padded vs explosive resistance for a while and you have answered this exact question!

Damn dude... this is so much vital info, and I'd love to see a breakdown of all the whys and whats to get to these conclusions. There's so much info, "info", misinfo, and speculation about so much of the math behind this game that I'd be interested in seeing it broken down into provable facts. Just that knowledge of spewers and bile titans using explosive damage is such an eye opener when it comes to how to deal with them and avoid dying. (also... that's some bs that they're classed as explosive damage)

Fantastic video and useful data as always. Thanks for being one of the must watch HD2 channels. The effort you put in is greatly appreciated Also, they definitely need to change armor headshots to be a nice sliding scale starting at the lightest armor

Hey hey hey. I believe that subscriber count now says 10K!!!! Congratulations and thank you for all you do for the community.

I particularly liked your discussion about extra passing vs fortified passive. Light gunner for automatons and fortified for eradications it is!

definitely going to be using vitality booster more often now

thing good to remember about explosive resistance it allows you to do explosion jumping a lot more often and at a lot smaller cost (with best tool to do it I'd say being the autocannon)

You've blown my mind like a devastator roket does!

As a die hard researcher of this game as well, I am so happy that you make these videos. Ive been telling people about stuff like this for the longest time despite it being hard to believe, so nice to have videos backing me. Came to realize that explosives are often more ballistics then explosives from the bots a while back, but i didnt know the full on numbers. Question, does this mean that ballistic shield technically mitigates damage from rockets then since it stops you from taking the brunt of the rocket impact and can potentially mitigate headshots? Ive noticed that impacts to the shield, at least from personal experience, feel like they lower the damage i take most of the time

I usually wear armor sets for visual appeal (even tho its inefficient) and found that wearing heavy armor other than the padded boi compared to light armor had no real difference in survival, maybe allowing me to take an extra hit give or take. I dont really mind the slowness of the heavy armor and usually always bring stamina or muscle to compensate. Your video really helped me understand the importance of vitality booster. This was a great video for helping me understand the entire subject. I dont think it would make me stop wearing heavy armor for visual appeal, but I will definitely start packing vitality as a go-to booster. Lastly, my luck is crap so I don't like to use democracy protects and just chose more certain stats for protection.

Super useful video, it's sad that so much isn't explained in game. However as a souls-like player, this is par for the course for us

No channel is more useful than this for learning about the game

I've just accepted that if i get hit i will die, it makes surviving an attack feel better XD

@Eravin I am a very new Diver that's only been around for about a week and so far have been running a variety of armors into battle. The Titan suit is probably my only real default 'go to' if idk what to bring, as it felt like such a good balance of speed, survivability, and good utility with it's Engi-Kit passive. Seeing the stats here actually do make me feel rather happy, seeing that it's defense values (minus headshot) float around 100%. The starting Tac armor really does seem like a Gem of an armor set that people need to not sleep on as it probably only seemed bad because we were newbie divers when we wore it. It's got the baseline stats for movement and stam of a 100 point armor, while having the extra padding to be as defensive as most heavier armors at 150. The first heavy you unlock, the marksman, was my first real notion of how strong damage resistance could be, at least at my low level. 150 armor along with the 30% explosive res is, of course, going to be better than just having a normal 150(padded) armor for those explosions. I have no idea if I was running vit boost as well, but I was able to trudge 10-30 meter(s) distances without cover against medium bot forces (no hulks or turrets/tanks shooting me) [distance depending on terrain or an outright slowing debuff like barbed wire/large plants] Soaking in shot after shot as they hit me mostly in the arm and leg since my side was to them, and was even able to semi-consistently survive rocket raider shots and even was able to withstand 2 direct hits from a Rocket Devastators barrage due to him not hitting me square in the forehead. Also! I would love to see a small addative video maybe covering the Explosive damage resistance provided by being prone/diving, as it seems fairly considerable as i've seen people get hit dead on with a rocket and live. Unsure if it was actually a headshot as it could've hit the shoulder/backpack of the person, but it looked like they caught it with their teeth, so that's why i'm asking you to clear air.

Eravin, quick question. According to the patch 01.000.300 - Armors with armor rating above 100 now also reduce damage on headshots. Does the "Extra Padding" perk not interact with this calculation? @5:26 The B-01 Tactical displayed has Extra Padding putting it at 150 Armor, but the headshot dmg is not decreased like the B-24 Enforcer. Can you explain this?

OMG i need SO much more explanation! This is fascinating and i REALLY wanna know the details. Thank you for your service to democracy!

I love my marshmellow man set. Taking the damage of a torso shot in light without vitality to the head with vitality is really good

I only play in Heavy armour. No problem with movement when you have the stamina booster. This can also explain why I like the "Mashmellow man" armour.

Shield generator pack, democracy protects perk, and vitality is as close as you can get to invincibility. It’s what I run on the search and destroy type missions.

Wow 3:15 so That booster Increases your armor? Interesting. I really hope the new team in arrowhead will make this stuff a lot more clearer. Because wow

Ok, that is awesome. And going to prompt me to try some different armors from my usual Heavy Fortified or Medium Padded. Hero of the Federation is a cool looking armor, after all :)

Man, i'm just happy that there is SOME merit to heavy armor now, id honestly still like to see a small headshot reduction in general, like down to 150% base rather than 200%, but i think there is a nice balance between mobility and defence now. Hopefully we will get some cooler armor perks soon.

Great info I love the numbers

Nerd numbers my beloved Also how are you still sane after finding these lmao, thank you though. I love this kinda stuff

It's worthwhile to note that explosive resistance comes with reduced recoil on shots while crouching or prone. This stat can greatly increase the rapid fire accuracy of weapons with high fire rates or heavy recoil. My personal recommendations include the Heavy Machine Gun and the Autocannon.

Great video! It’s clear, you show numbers on screen, easy to follow and you put all number together for an easy comparisson. Would love to see values for Speed and Stamina aswell. With 50 armor you take x% dmg with x% movement speed. With 200 armor you take x% dmg with x% movement speed.

If everything in this videos is true, I think it's time to switch my go to Loadouts. Thanks Great work 🎉🎉 on showing the math of everything

I did not have exact numbers. But playing I came to the exact same conclusions. I don't mind being slow. I am heavy armor, extra padding, shield pack, and vitality perk. If I don't die, I can res my team. Also, friendly fire is not friendly, this helps.

I really liked this video m8, great info. Keep it up, I love knowing things like this

Just, more info is fucking amazing. I barely knew any of this shit, the game sure as shit doesn't telly you anything, like at all. Huge thank you!

I'm 100% marshmallow all the time so I'm going to run vitaility forever now. Ty

I ran the light gunner armor for quite a while, then when enforcer came into the picture I got it for bots feeling like maybe I should try out the default/other medium padded armor from the shop

Welp, looks like light + vitality is always the way to go

Awesome vid, I'm definitely going to be shooting this over to the helldivers section on my discord server. I just can't believe we're taking 200% damage from headshots when the AI has literal spray and pray aimbot lmao.

Fellow Trailblazer, as an Arctic Ranger main, I respect your dedication to the Scout's cause.

Solid work figuring this all out, thank you!

Curious to see what the explosive resistance for being prone is. Its not enough to survive a direct hit, but I have survived enough close calls to know it does something. As for getting shot in the head there are ways to mitigate that. Namely get down and don't stand in front of enemies when they are shooting. Most bots have a cooldown between bursts than you can take advantage of. Diving backwards is also a good way to avoid getting head shot by things like hunters if your foolish enough to get into their jump range. The whole armor movement topic is rather interesting. Yes lighter armor gets you to the fight faster , but you lack any real staying power when there. Heavy armor is slow, but the defense boost is noticeable. I find the best use for light armor to be long range hit and run builds. Still that's not going to stop the mad lads that just want to run shotgun while wearing what is effectively a military grade onesie in terms of protection. I find that heavy armor lends itself to playing with heavy support weapons like auto cannon, laser cannon, the MGs, flame thrower and the like. Anything with a sit down reload is gonna feel much better in heavy armor as you can angle yourself to protect your head and not be punished as badly if you need to reload. weapon choice is going to play a big role in how flimsy light armor feels vs how slow heavy armor feels. I want to say thanks btw. Finding these numbers and calculations can not be easy and even if people disagree with what the numbers ultimately mean you still put in the hard work to display this nice bit of info.

Honestly this is one huge advertisement for Vitality Booster, running that plus Fortified has been a lifesaver in bot missions where I KNOW I should've died from a hit (like a Devastator rocket or a nearby tank shot impact) But now that I kinda have an idea about the Armor Padding and Democracy Protects, this will help. I mostly disregarded Extra Padding because of the dubious effectiveness of it (and also because of the pretense of it being one of the first armors you unlock, and in most games that means it's meant to be 'outgrown') but after this, it's another piece of armor worthy of consideration added to the toolbox.

I’m kinda surprised that you responded to almost every single comment on this video, it must have taken a while but very good video as usual

the marshmellow man armor has 200 armor due to its passive, so it cannot have another passive such as fortified or democracy protects

Could be worth a follow up video or a short about how stance affects explosive damage taken. Sprinting>Running>Standing>Crouching>Prone. Though I'm only confident on the last three, I haven't tested if sprinting actually makes you more vulnerable to explosions. Also, with your videos revelation that acid spit is explosive, I wonder if stance also affects acid!

thanks for these videos in general

I’ve worn the heavy 50% explosive armour since fighting bots and I’ve never looked back. Used to run light gunner for bugs but now I’ve changed tactics from kiting to kill everything. And it works wonders. Set up some fortifications and position myself well while my team mates do the objectives i commit bug and bot genocide. I might be a psychopath. 😂

Blessed be the number givers. Liked, watched, favourited and saved. I just hope pile stepping into the bullring from the office will see helldivers revive it’s fun rather than be Arthur returning the sword to the lake. . . That said, light armour FTW, every time I take it off I get hit so much more and rag dolled for days and generally ran down/over/through on the regular even vs those hilltop/horizon walkers acting like snipers.

I love my stay puft armor. Sure I'm a bit slower, but it can often mean the difference between surviving a burst, getting up, hitting a stim and returning fire *OR* just dying on the spot. Combine with a shield or other defensive stratagems and you can take some fire semi-reliably for your squad. That, and it makes me look like an absolute tank.

I chose two armors for myself: a light one with explosion protection from machine guns and a light one with additional grenades from beetles + both armors have recoil reduced by 30%. They have a similar style, and therefore the same helmet looks great on them. It seems to me that the developers should increase the endurance of heavy armor a little. I'm waiting for the developers to add presets.

Headshots shmeadshots, I spend half my game being barreled down by groups of heavy devastators and MG raiders. Heavy armor does its job when this is what youre stuck with

I feel like with the Armors in the game, they should try and do some things that isn't so massed producted; which i get can be kinda part of the point of helldivers being 18 and constantly joining, but, having armor that does reflect enemy damage but slows you down ALOT Or armor that increase distance of all thrown things, armor that gives extra rockets, extra primary ammo, ammo for machine guns, maybe an armor set for energy based weapons Something more than just Throw stratigums farther 2 extra grenades 2 extra stims Less explosion damage Extra armor by defaults (not like it really does anything)

you also need to factor in that some armor zones are more armored than others like the battlemaster L arm vs R arm