Please watch the entire video before leaving a "Porsche didn't design the turret" comment

The Germans loved fixed fortifications: -the Atlantic wall -the sigfried line And the technological apex of fixed fortifications, the Tiger II which drives for a bit and then sets up as a fixed fortification by either getting stuck or breaking down.

I love the Tiger 2 with the "H" turret aesthetically speaking, such a good looking tank.

4:00 F to that poor John who took 88mm shot to the chest

Hans the engine has exploded FOR THE 5th TIME

The Tiger II has to be one of the best looking tanks of all time

"Not great not Terrible" Anatoly Dyatlov

I get the feeling that the Germans didn't really know what they wanted to do with the tiger II. Tiger I was a breakthrough tank, using relatively decent speed combined with heavy armour and firepower to break through enemy lines and force a break. The Tiger II couldn't do that because of its weight and sheer armour

HANS! WHERE ARE ZE SPARE TIGER PARTS? Hans: starts sweating profusely

To quote Chieftain from his Elbonia Q&A video on topic of IS-3: "It was abysmal unreliable design. Problem is, it was quite a scary tank when one could make it work."

Interestingly, when the Soviets first encountered the Tiger-2, they thought it was a replacement for the Panther. I believe, for a short time before they had better intel, they even referred to in reports as the "Panther-2."

Honestly, by the time the Germans could introduce Tiger II, they were already totally fcked. Not only was the source of Molybdenum (Scandinavia) out of the reach of their merchant navy, the face hardening of their steel plates required a bigass induction furnace, which consumes enormous amount of electricity (which Germans by that time already lacked, their dams and coal powered plants were leveled). And even if they had both of that, there is no certainty that the plate would be able to hold against the soviet guns, which used huge shells of calibers typically used by howitzer, but they used it in high muzzle velocity guns, thus creating enormous amount of kinetic energy which would be transfered into the plate anyway. They would likely need a modern defectoscopy (ultrasound) to find out what is the problem and how to solve it.

I'm really enjoying this historical series, keep it up!

From my opinion, Tiger 2 is one of many tanks following the quote "too much, too late". Production started late, when all the german industries was getting bombed by the allies and to make it worse, it was a complicated design, which led to a small amount of tanks. It entered combat late in the war which led to it not making as much impact as expected in the war effort. By that point, the war was over.

So, to summarize: Pros: 1: powerful and far-reaching gun 2: thick , tough armor, if perhaps -too- tough. 3: a definite improvement over the Tiger 1, which any "successor" should be. 4: Suspension is less of a maintenance headache than the Tiger 1 Cons: 1: Power-to-weight ratio is poor, which is common on the "big cats" 2: underpowered and temperamental engine, again, a common problem. 3: fuel-thirsty, which in late war Germany is a definite liability. 4: gobbled up strategic resources better used elsewhere.... again, a common problem with late war German tanks.

If the tiger 2 is played correctly in war thunder it is one of the best tanks in the game , if it is played by someone who heard legends about it from ww2 and think it’s invulnerable it’s crap

I really do like the Tigers in general, have them all except the Striped Event one. However at the BR it is currently, constantly getting uptiered to 7.3-7.7 with CAS constantly ruining things and then being wrecked by ATGMs and GOOD heat rounds; makes them not really enjoyable. I enjoy using the Tiger 1's more so, since they have a more fair competition against the Jumbos and IS-1/2's. The Tiger II's speed is alright, it's armor does not hold up well anymore and is far too large of a target; to really be considered an 'Effective' heavy tank. It does have a decent gun though, but 6.3 - 6.7 feels like the hardest part of climbing it. At those BR's though, I'd rather use the German Bulldogs at that point; the ones with the remarkably shitty suspension and stability. (Which says a lot.)

"Hans we need better transmission" "More armour you say?" "Nein hans Better transmission" "Bigger Kanon eh?" "hans better👏trans👏mission👏" "Oh BOTTLE SHIP KANON?" ".... Ja hans,YAAAAA" -last Recording of Hans And Kerts before they Got clapped

Would love to hear about some UK vehicles from your perspective, mainly about Cromwell/Crusader or Matilda/Valentine

The comments defending the king tiger are gonna be the best part about this video

Actualy, based on the Information released a few weeks ago from "Das Deutsche Panzermuseum", The Tiger 1 was a stop gap measure as they already knew before it was put into production that the short 88 wasnt going to cut it. They wanted a breakthrough tank that had a more dominant gun than the short 88 or 75 L70, the earliest drawings were only of the turret and the requirement to make it fit on a Tiger 1 hull, the hull shape changed later on when they uparmored the vehicle. In Fact despite the Tiger 1 and 2 beeing so drasticly different in appearnance the German military regarded them as 2 different models of the same vehicle similar to Leopard 2A0 and 2A6, Hence why its called PzKpfw 6 (Tiger 1) and PzKpfw 6b (Tiger 2). The Naming scheme for Tiger 1 and 2 was only ever found as a designation in the design documents not officialy adopted by the military. The biggest issue with Tiger 2 was that it was made for a different type of war, it was meant to push and advance, breaking through lines basicly what Tiger 1 was doing, not to be used defensively. Interestingly the Late proposals for Tiger that were drawn up in 44 and demanded for 1945 would have made this vehicle more modern than almost any other at the time, these proposals werent even that undoable for the time they just didnt have the resources and time left to introduce them. Addition of a Rangefinder whcih only required a small increase in turret hight. They wanted to Stabilize the Gunsight, having it disconected from the gun itself as in modern MBTs. mainly to aid in observatin and target acquisition while on the move. A newer better and more powerfull engine. a Gun/Sight Syncro that would hinder the gun from firing if it wasnt aligned with the sight. this feature in particular is still used in modern MBTs and hasnt been looked at in service vehicles till more modern vehicles entered service in the late 70s and early 80s (Leo2, M1 etc)

Tiger I, Tiger II, and Panther: *consistently praised* Panzer IV: *sad tonk noises*

Spookston's summary on the Tiger II: "The Tiger II was a tank."

We might debate forever if tiger 2 was good or bad, but we all can agree on that it looks super hot and it is the best looking WW2 tank.

FINALLY someone other than the Chieftain who will explicitly say there’s no such thing as a Porsche turret. You’re right Spooks, Krupp made both turrets and Rheinmetall made the first version of the gun. After Krupp was asked to re-design the turret to a cheaper and more combat effective shape Krupp made their own version of the KwK 43. Porsche never had anything to do with the turret ever.

Hmmm... predicting that there will be more people complaining about Wehraboos than actual Wehraboos in the comment section.

"Frontally impervious to anything the allies could field." What a massive fucking understatement, there's many cold war era tanks that can't even pen it's upper plate.

4:00 poor guy ate the whole 88mm

More flattering than I expected honestly. Still my favorite tank

Great video, all good information…. Had it play at x3/4 speed to completely understand narrator. Smearing words together, Again. BUT…, other than that, outstanding content keep up the good work!

There are several stories of the IS-2 defeating Tiger IIs frontally from around 1km. The low quality of the Tiger II's armor caused it to spall internally when hit by large calibre AP and HE shells, even though the armor was not penetrated..

I would love to see a streamlined or improvement series on sprocket of every main WW2 countries most fielded or used tank. What you’d change on the designs to make them better while trying to keep the look of the home country. Obviously some countries would be more difficult than others but I’d love to see you do it. How would you make a more streamlined and cost efficient German WW2 tank based on what they were working with at the time. Same for Italy, France, Japan, etc etc etc.

With how overconfident Porsche was I'm surprised he didn't also immediately start production of the Leopard 1 when he submitted his design.

Hilariously, this is what i thought your previous video about the balancing of the tiger 2 was going to be. Glad it ended up happening for real!

How many Tiger tanks are needed to kill one Sherman? 5. Two out of gas. Two in repair. The other one kills the Sherman.

It's another WW2 German tank that on paper was amazing and definitely one of the best......but Germany would never be able to get to it's full potential in reality It still amazes me that they built nearly 500 tiger 2 in a year and half even at the sub-par standards with what their production lines we're dealing with, the factories they were built in were being bombed constantly and everything was scarce from fuel to steel to crewman just to drive the damn things Even with all its issues though the Tiger 2 was still a big problem for allies, with a majority lost due to non-battle issues with high KD ratio regardless in the end it's a good thing they were not able to get the tiger 2 to it's full potential

It was designed pretty decently for a video game though, that makes it great.

In summary, good if built under perfect conditions.

It would have been interesting to see what the Tiger 2 could have become if it had a couple years to be produced under optional conditions. I can't think of any tank of the 41-45 Era that didn't have quite a bit of teething issues in its first year before becoming ironed out and ultimately becoming a tank that's looked at positively.

To give some credit to the tiger 2, it was very agile for a 70 ton tank with that engine

funny thing is there are more functioning tiger 2 tanks then tiger 1 tanks

Your video shows some fantastic sniping by the Konig Tiger.

I have to say, that this was maybe the most accurate video of this series. Everything was correct and I liked, that you pointed the fact out, that the frontal hull-plate often broked due to the lack of goods. I might add that building the hull was only allowed to humans because it was such a complicated step that required perfect accuracy. Also, I recommend the "Das Panzermuseum" series about the Tiger II. It's a German channel, but there may be subtitles if you're interested.

lol got here early. Personally in my games against Tiger 2s, I remember them being quite easy to one shot on the side with a Hellcat, their front is really good though. But if your in the flanking business your always on the best spots to shot.

When talking about engines why is horsepower always brought up? Isn't torque more important for these heavy machines?

Very informative, as always. Perhaps a British tank next? Cromwell?

no one else anywhere I commonly see knows about the turret being Krupp not Porsche 😊😊😊 you've made me happy

German High Command: We're running out of Fuel. Tiger 2: So anyway i started blasting...

When used properly in good tank country the Tiger II was a beast. When the 30 Tiger IIs of Schwere SS Panzer Abteilung 501 were removed from the awful tank country of the Ardennes in January 1945 and transferred east to Hungary they were instrumental in the German retaking of the Gran Bridgehead in February. The open countryside was perfect for their long range guns and they were taking out Soviet tanks up to 3,000 metres. So it all depended on the terrain and their usage. Let's face it, the Ardennes was poor tank country for both sides.

I definitely want to hear more about the jagdtiger! Or jagdpanther even. I remember reading a bunch into the jagdtiger (even though there were only a few) but it was really interesting since they did fairly well in combat then were abandoned by their crews or destroyed when they ran out of ammo and turned and exposed their sides.

Anyone remember an old game where you had to fight a tiger 2 (p)? It was a circular arena-ish map with a house in the middle. The was a bazooka/panzerfaust inside. It was probably medal of honor or an old call of duty.

It looked cool tho

The mad flex of a US tiger 2

Can you do a video about the T26E5? I would love to see your opinion about how it feels in game or how it actually was in real life.

visual representation is very good thanks

Not really. On paper it was one of the best tanks of the war due to its armour and "long 88" gun. It was anticipated to completely change the tide of the war in favour of the Germans. In reallity, this of course didn't work because the tanks effectiveness was completely ruined due to constant breakdowns and fires. Also as you mentioned, by the end of the war allied bombing runs became more frequent and slowed down the production of the Tiger II. Not more than 500 hundred were produced which were not even close to the Americans making 50,000 Shermans and the Russians making 60,000 T-34s. _- big fan of your content (subscriber)_

*“Heavy breathing noises”* -Wehraboos

You know its a spookston video when the intro is a cannon shot

The meme vid ab you is really spot on, your vids are memes now

Tiger II is my favorite heavy tank in WT. Amazing reload, good armour, good speed (for a heavy tank), amazing shell and just very fun to play. The only problem with the Tiger II are the germans 6.7 teams.

ironic how i had two tiger 2 matches . the first one was an absolute victory against russians on tunisia. only for the second to be a trail of tears against heatfs and cold war tanks on alaska . after i leave the game i find this great video

Just noticed the Tiger II is the final itineration of the "Schmalturm turret design". First design was the 1941/42 VK-1604 LEOPARD tank with the "PUMA turret" and the KwK 39 gun mounted in 50mm Saukopfblenda plus 50mm front turret @ 20o + 30mm side turret@ 30o. x 70o the compounded angle. Viewed from front POV the gun and sharply sloped Saukopfblende is maybe 1/4 of this turret profile, while the bulk of the rest of this profile is the 30mm side turret armor at 73o compounded angle. This results in 87mm LOS over most of the front turret. The second itineration was the PUMA turret mounted on the 1943 11 ton SdKfz 234 wheeled re-con vehicle . the turret with 30mm front @ 20o and 10mm side turret amour @ 69o compounded angle, resulting in 29-31mm. The third itineration was the end of war , Panther F Schmalturm with 75L70 gun mounted on a POT mantle 150mm thick on the front turret plate of 120mm @ 20o. The side turret is 60mm @ 70o compounded angle, over 175mm LOS TIGER II turret has 190mm mantle + 100mm pot mantle . The 80mm side turret armor @ 20o > 70o compounded angle = 220mm.~ 250mm . BTW the armor was flawed 80% of LOS

I used to wonder why the hull on these tanks was much more heavily armoured than the turrets. But apparently the armour fractured more easily when hit at an angle.

Now I'm convinced most KZfaqrs play Vs bots that are switched of or Vs players that are afk they could have killed you so so so many times with little effort

Go make a new King Kitty in Sprocket Instead of it's standard armor thickness, change it as such: 120mm UFP 60mm Side Hull 150mm Turret Same 80mm side turret Then keep its other components the same, gun, ammo, engine, the works. Then test it against what woulda amounted to the same WW2 tanks(Sherman, both M3 and M1A1C equipped, as well as T-34s, both the D5T and shorter 76mm equipped ones. Seems like the King Tiger coulda gotten away with many millimeters less armor thickness and still been nigh impervious to most allied tanks at the time. Maybe the 17lber woulda still busted it's nuts, since that was a very powerful gun....but eh, shaving off 80mm of combined armor off its various faces, wonder how much weight it woulda saved and how much of an improvement it mighta been to its automotive performance.

I love these videos as it gives good insight on how a tank or vehicle did IRL and the impact it made or could have made. Keep it up!

Good clip. You could make clip about your idea how the best tank for germany during WW2 should be design?

The tiger II is one of my favorite tanks from world War 2

To me, the Tiger-II is a good heavy for what it was meant to do; be a juggernaut on defense, but was rendered null by Germany's state in the mid-40s when they'd wasted everything on London and Barbarossa.

Always 10 minutes before I go to work

whats the difference between interleaved and overlapping wheels?

"it's been a while since we talked about a German tank..." *Looks at rest of series* Riiiiiigghhtt... 😒

3:57 "Crew Knocked out" as decimates ONE American crew member.

SITUATIONALLY it was very good. Just like the Tiger I and other tanks. If its reliability problems werent such a massive issue then it probably could have been one of the best tanks of the war, but making a tank like that without mass reliability problems from the Germans is expecting a bit much. But you know, as with most German tanks, the Tiger II functions well as a bunker when something inevitably breaks down.

Have you done one of these on the BT-7? I feel like you did but I can't find it.

Yoo I had a game with you yesterday. You were in a kugelblitz and I was the bmp next to you

The Germans simply didn't have time or resources to make the Tiger 2 as reliable as it could have been. I mean the Modern Day American Abrams weighs as much as Tiger 2 even though its made from lighter composite materials. But Then Again the US Military had the time build a good base model that they could upgrade and gradually increase Abrams armour weight and fire power because they weren't in another world war by this point and for most part its just being smaller isolated conflicts across the globe. Germany on the other hand with Tiger 2 had to scramble with the design and make do with what limited resources it had by the point the Tiger 2 enter service and lost a lot of experienced tank crew members that would also have helped the Tiger 2 be more effective. But if you just have crew of fresh and inexperienced members more rookie mistakes will be made at critical moments in battle leading to the Tiger 2 get disabled or destroyed in a fight. So Tiger 2 be like so I was expected to run on a Panther engine that was too underpowered for my size and my armour varied in quality due to lack of high quality steel and shit metallurgy processes. That either ended up being good quality and could survive dozens of hits with hardly any damage. To entire side skirts sheering off from glancing shell hit. So given the Situation I think I had pretty Good Run Tiger 2 said. Tiger 1 good for you my transmission would break trying to free fellow Tiger 1s that got stuck in the mud. Tiger 2 OOOF!.

At least it looked good.

How about making top tier tanks rating? That would be useful for choosing the tech tree to grind.

I cant remember where I heard it from but it was stated at one point that the Tiger 2 couldve been in the running for being called a Main Battle Tank before other tanks earned that classification. Of course it wouldve needed some much needed improvements to iron out the problems before it could truly earn that classification.

The Tiger II gets a lot of smack, for what it was, developed in a short time, it's a truly impressive work of engineering.

T-29 having a turret and hull armor weakness with a slower rld at 7.0 while the Tiger 2 has only a turret weakness a better gun for sniping, and faster rld at 6.7,,, Idk man

Can you cover the T-44? i know little about its service history

I really enjoy your content, but I hate how often watching your videos I get the urge to play Subnautica because that music is FIRE

it’s alright ig

War Thunder: Tiger 2 lives up to the hype, maybe even too well (up tiers follow). Reality: So much potential...but meh. All the issues cited and this...by the time it premiered though, driving fast and far weren't priorities. The Germans were in a defensive fight, and stubbornly trying to hold ground. As a defensive tank, the Tiger 2 did pretty well. It was when it was pressed into the offensive role (as in The Battle of the Bulge) that it underperformed. Then again, with a proper logistics train behind it, it would have done much better. You see this reflected in its War Thunder performance.

I agree. It was a promising design that had too much going against it, and was too late in the war to be thoroughly tested and improved imo.

I love you spooky happy halloween

" Frontal armor impervious to any allied guns " IS2 and ISU 152 : Allow us to introduce ourselfes.

Lol chat censor :D

love the chat in the begining of the video :)

What is the game that is playing during the narration of the video. Apologies if somebody has already asked?

Well, if it just faces Shermans and Is-2, like it did, then it is a decent, above average machine, even with its short comings, such as rushed production, shortages, bombing, etc. If it faces sci fi fantasy tanks from the future, like in WT, then it is pretty much useless, even without its short comings.

Tiger II had quite specific role to fulfill witch was even more specialized than that of Tiger I it would work only as breakthrough tank, in ideal world Germans would deepoly them as first line of attack, broke their line and then medium tanks and mechanised infantry are taking over with further attacks, and that might work. For a war on witch tiger II stumbled it was bad tank for defence

Hey Spookston, could you do a video on the vehicles of the new Dune movie?

Tbf most of these problems aren't design flaws but really just lack of operational facilities and heavy budget cuts

Typical German tanks > losses transmission, large, and heavy type of tank > Turret compartment is cramped and prone to bad welding

This is sort of like asking “Is the Eiffel Tower a good tower?”

Not asking for the information. but what is it your blurring on the left?

Well to me everything is explained with 2 pictures about this tank. One is photo of them rallying to the defence of Budapest the another of them seen broken down and destroyed after the battle on their way to return to Austria.