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How Brexit could create a crisis at the Irish border

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@PhoebeHB
@PhoebeHB 6 жыл бұрын
I've lived in England my whole life, and I find it really weird how little our history with Ireland was covered in school.
@1conor
@1conor 6 жыл бұрын
It's a shameful UK past of famine and genocide in Ireland that's why they don't teach it
@OF01975
@OF01975 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah its not a surprise they dont teach it its disgusting if you actually look it up. There was a potato famine and the whole population was starving to death while the british exported all our food abroad. They thought we didnt deserve free help so they made the irish build roads by hand leading to nowhere for pennies
@mrjoelist
@mrjoelist 6 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. I must have studied the tudors 5 times throughout my education. Nothing on the troubles.
@Jack-ri5wm
@Jack-ri5wm 6 жыл бұрын
Phoebe HB in Northern Ireland we are taught a hell of a lot about English history so don’t sweat it
@StopCopyingMyAccent
@StopCopyingMyAccent 6 жыл бұрын
It's so young people don't realise the horrendous ways Britain treated the Irish over the centuries! Look up anything on the 'black and tans' and prepare to be horrified
@rep9544
@rep9544 5 жыл бұрын
The majority of Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU and yet they’re still caught up in this mess
@fraazu
@fraazu 5 жыл бұрын
@@@vat6989 what does that have to do with anything? Brexit is horrible for our economy and will be detrimental to our future, thats why people voted remain
@dobkayaker
@dobkayaker 5 жыл бұрын
@@vat6989 There were 90,000 more votes to remain than stay in Northern Ireland, and there were only 4,000 Muslims living there in 2009. There are 50 times as many non-religious people and 200 times as many Catholics. Additionally, Scotland voted remain and the whole UK almost voted remain despite being majority protestant. Something tells your comment is driven more by your own fixations than the realities of voting demographics.
@jays5926
@jays5926 5 жыл бұрын
dobkayaker media doing its part
@ciarand2823
@ciarand2823 5 жыл бұрын
vat 69 there has historically been a Protestant majority up until very recently but population demographics are now fast approaching a tipping point where the ageing Protestant population are soon to be outnumbered by the young generation of catholics. Of course religious belief isn’t a guarantee of a persons political persuasion but it’s how it’s generally viewed here in Northern Ireland.
@Ujjawal_YouTube
@Ujjawal_YouTube 5 жыл бұрын
Britain is country in the world which believes in divide and rule which create a lot of problems, destabilize the peace, law and order. Britain should leave Northern Ireland
@premmeyyappan1117
@premmeyyappan1117 3 жыл бұрын
Brits: “we need a solution that makes everyone happy.” India and Pakistan: **visible confusion**
@NoName-hg6cc
@NoName-hg6cc 3 жыл бұрын
English: "Everyone in England" India and Pakistan: "Ahhh, that's the England we know"
@dubious_potat4587
@dubious_potat4587 3 жыл бұрын
The middle east: *visible confusion*
@sharannadeeproyroy6211
@sharannadeeproyroy6211 3 жыл бұрын
😀😂😂
@cittheuhtheuh
@cittheuhtheuh 3 жыл бұрын
Nomore border disputes then,they learned from their ancestors...
@shreyandattagupta7387
@shreyandattagupta7387 3 жыл бұрын
Israel and Palestine Turkey and Greece Agrees with you too
@sub2willne52
@sub2willne52 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how the only British border problem is not even in Britain.
@Katmulla
@Katmulla 5 жыл бұрын
@el, I died Laughing with your comment
@i_noscoped_jfk7027
@i_noscoped_jfk7027 4 жыл бұрын
DarceyNE I smell IRA
@factasuntpotentioraverbis5631
@factasuntpotentioraverbis5631 4 жыл бұрын
Its a UK border not a British one
@CatholicWeeb
@CatholicWeeb 4 жыл бұрын
I think he meant the Island Called "Great Britain"
@factasuntpotentioraverbis5631
@factasuntpotentioraverbis5631 4 жыл бұрын
@@CatholicWeeb And again, it's a UK border not a British one
@Joropicha7
@Joropicha7 5 жыл бұрын
-The Uk's only overland border *Gibraltar triggers*
@tomeggengoor
@tomeggengoor 5 жыл бұрын
Zen Flow better version Vox: The UK’s only overland border Gibraltar: Am I a joke to you? Good profile picture BTW :)
@jacobs279
@jacobs279 5 жыл бұрын
Zen Flow wait where’s Gibraltar? And where is it the UK’s second overland border?
@Joropicha7
@Joropicha7 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacobs279 The second overland border is with Spain.Gibraltar is in south Spain next to the strait of gibraltar
@Toby-yf7ze
@Toby-yf7ze 5 жыл бұрын
@@tomeggengoor Akrotiri and Dhekelia: Are we a joke to all of you?
@cormacsmithy3975
@cormacsmithy3975 5 жыл бұрын
Good thing there's no terrorism in Gibraltar.
@user-vh1ed8bx9t
@user-vh1ed8bx9t 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine how easily they drawn the borders between India Pakistan which killed like millions.
@societaloutlawhh7821
@societaloutlawhh7821 5 жыл бұрын
and Bangladesh
@akshitthakur6833
@akshitthakur6833 5 жыл бұрын
Look what they did to India but Britishers lives in a illusion that they saved ,developed India but if study history u will know how they ruined India from Golden age of India to dust( I'm sure they don't teach this in their history classes).
@ivak1040
@ivak1040 5 жыл бұрын
Roman Gawande ekdum right...
@hiddenknowledge2012
@hiddenknowledge2012 5 жыл бұрын
@@akshitthakur6833 Because English people think they are blameless. They live in a fantasy.
@taqibulislamchowdhury7796
@taqibulislamchowdhury7796 5 жыл бұрын
Added to that, India-Pakistan Borders were drawn by Cyril John Redcliffe who never visited the Indian sub-continent before! He just took the map and curved it on the basis of Muslim Majority and Hindu Majority areas and that started the life long conflict here. What a shame!
@ruhaanchopra8878
@ruhaanchopra8878 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, seems like dividing stuff up is a British habit.
@viraat610
@viraat610 3 жыл бұрын
@Captain Canada Arab world, Indian subcontinent and africa
@ahteshamahmed9
@ahteshamahmed9 3 жыл бұрын
India
@shaunamcconnoran6007
@shaunamcconnoran6007 3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@seanbrummfield448
@seanbrummfield448 3 жыл бұрын
Man, karma's a b****. Aint it Great Britain? lol
@seanbrummfield448
@seanbrummfield448 3 жыл бұрын
@Dipankar Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me. I should've put quotations around "Great". lol
@kuchikiTaicho
@kuchikiTaicho 5 жыл бұрын
Hah, Boris is nodding in the background while Theresa May is speaking about hard borders. Pretty ironic now.
@harpfully
@harpfully 5 жыл бұрын
Boris... soon to be first Prime Minister of England
@sirloin5479
@sirloin5479 4 жыл бұрын
Boris is a beast 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@eddevlin72
@eddevlin72 5 жыл бұрын
This is not an Irish Border crisis, this is a British border on the island of Ireland crisis. Ireland did not ask for the border nor did it ask for Brexit, so let’s be careful where we place blame
@confederatefan
@confederatefan 5 жыл бұрын
And when Ireland leaves the UK you'll be begging to come back when the EU demand billions from you every year and you can't keep your quota and your country becomes bankrupt just like the majority of EU member countries
@confederatefan
@confederatefan 5 жыл бұрын
@@eddevlin72 more like good luck to Ireland and Scotland with that 👍
@eddevlin72
@eddevlin72 5 жыл бұрын
bcfcsavag33 bcfcsavag33 🤪
@taintabird23
@taintabird23 5 жыл бұрын
Ireland left the UK in 1922. Is it a pre-requisite for all Brexit supporters to be complete morons?
@user-ls6dm3kv4b
@user-ls6dm3kv4b 5 жыл бұрын
Taint ABird Using big words to seem smart now are we?
@deadgril
@deadgril 6 жыл бұрын
I live in Northern Ireland and I wouldn't mind if we joined Ireland, but I'd be scared of the riots that would break out if that happened. I have never lived during the troubles, I'm 16, but my ma has told me how terrible it was with british soldiers everywhere and I'd rather not go back to that.
@samh3074
@samh3074 6 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. While joining the Republic would effectively solve the issue of the border, the hardcore Unionists would probably start an insurgency like the IRA did.
@learnabox7177
@learnabox7177 6 жыл бұрын
The border will be fine after Brexit. People can travel freely across the border under the Common Travel Area established before the EU existed. Lorries and goods crossing the border will be checked and we aren't talking about putting soldiers and watch towers up along the border.
@littlezoot
@littlezoot 6 жыл бұрын
learna box exactly, these r all scaremongers trying all they can to put down Brexit. It's the eu who wants a hard border, as they want to break down the UK and deter any other state from leaving it in the future.
@cooperguy
@cooperguy 6 жыл бұрын
Nick The UK want the border as they want their own customs agreements.
@deadgril
@deadgril 6 жыл бұрын
wtf Rob calm down, while it was a disgrace that the British ever came to Ireland in the first place, they still live here now and see Northern Ireland as their home. I grew up in a protestant neighbourhood in a protestant family, I'd hate to live in Britain, I see myself as more of Irish since I was born on the island of Ireland
@melodymeirose
@melodymeirose 5 жыл бұрын
UK: Takes years to finalize Brexit Also UK: Only takes months to create two separate countries
@dishantsharma8777
@dishantsharma8777 5 жыл бұрын
And just one and a half month to draw a boundary between India and Pakistan of about 1500 km and that too by a man who never visited India !!!
@melodymeirose
@melodymeirose 5 жыл бұрын
@@dishantsharma8777 exactly
@firedskull5015
@firedskull5015 4 жыл бұрын
@I have to wait 90 days to change my name ever heard of the british raj policy called divide and rule, thats what separated muslims and hindus in the first place.
@goldenbrothers5579
@goldenbrothers5579 4 жыл бұрын
Today is brexit
@sourav7162
@sourav7162 4 жыл бұрын
@Britannia Yeah. They were power hungry just like every other politicians. It was completely undemocratic. No one would have voted for pakistan.
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 4 жыл бұрын
4:19 if you go on Google maps that exact spot has a sign saying "welcome to northern Ireland" with "northern" crossed out in spray paint
@NapoleonBonaparte05
@NapoleonBonaparte05 4 жыл бұрын
Dang
@JL-jg2jg
@JL-jg2jg 3 жыл бұрын
HARRY THOMPSON I just love our country
@ahsanimam73
@ahsanimam73 3 жыл бұрын
Where is ir
@botizen
@botizen 3 жыл бұрын
@HARRY THOMPSON and for good reason
@BD-pp7un
@BD-pp7un 3 жыл бұрын
Right job up the ra
@davidtran1440
@davidtran1440 5 жыл бұрын
Plot twist. UK asks Mexico to pay for a wall.
@heathermadilene
@heathermadilene 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, I laughed so hard
@strider029
@strider029 5 жыл бұрын
It should be called "Not so united kingdom"
@galaxyred7
@galaxyred7 4 жыл бұрын
Broken Kingdom!
@aspiknf
@aspiknf 4 жыл бұрын
Nicola Sturgeon would like the sound of that...
@yoeltogarmikael3278
@yoeltogarmikael3278 2 жыл бұрын
ununited kingdom
@Justanotherlemon
@Justanotherlemon 2 жыл бұрын
Political broken mess kingdom!
@Ascientistsjourney
@Ascientistsjourney 2 жыл бұрын
Divided kingdom!
@kevinwashington2228
@kevinwashington2228 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you conveniently forget England conquered and colonized Ireland, and that's why those borders are there. Those "Irish" Protestants' ancestors aren't from Ireland.
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, out they can go
@kevinwashington2228
@kevinwashington2228 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielbugg7355 You clearly aren't well versed in Irish history. Ireland was England's first colony, and after England conquered Ireland in the 1600s the Penal Laws were implemented which took the right for Catholics to own land. This was done to take power from the Irish -- indigenous people of the island -- so England could populate the island with British and replace Irish culture with British culture. Why do you think the vast majority of the Irish speak english as a first language today? The point is Ireland was colonized by the British and in a sense the UK still occupies Northern Ireland. The "British" don't have to go, the point is they are living in Ireland, they should not oppress the Irish language and Irish culture.
@cammysmith7562
@cammysmith7562 4 жыл бұрын
Irish invaded and settled Scotland in 400AD, most of the people who ‘colonised’ Ireland were Scottish, and since a majority of Scots are related to the Irish who took over Scotland it was technically just people returning to the historic homeland.
@timebein9647
@timebein9647 3 жыл бұрын
i see u w the cousin stizz pic
@cathalofaolain9103
@cathalofaolain9103 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielbugg7355 wow, for a long paragraph I can't believe you got so much wrong. The Irish did have a king, the Ard Rí (High King). Not only that, each province of Ireland had their own leaders, which were known as kings (Rí), but pledged allegiance to the High King. This was relatively similar to the feudal system present in the rest of Europe. The gaelic society was very advanced, same as any, with complex laws (including far more rights for women then the common law of England gave them). The colonisation efforts are historically known as the plantations. The most successful one, of Ulster, took place after a failed rebellion almost freed the entirety of Ireland from British rule. After its failure, the Irish leaders O'Neill and O'Donnell fled to Spain, in what was known as "the flight of the Earls". As Ulster had been the county leading the rebellion, Queen Elizabeth of England decided to remove the power base. They confiscated Irish land and gave this land to Protestant English and Scottish settlers in an effort to wipe out the Irish culture and people in Ulster, making them "British" and thus ensuring they won't rebel. The Irish people who's land they stole occasionally fought back and killed the settlers, while although that was relatively rare, bred distrust and fear. (This fear and distrust still exists today to a degree) Rebellions in Ireland didn't stop of course, which led to the Cromwellian genocide, in which Cromwell killed an estimated 41% of the Irish population and sold 100,000s into indentured servitude in the Carribean, almost none of which returned. This genocide was followed by oppressive penal laws on catholics, which preventing them from attending school, voting, owning property beyond a certain price and treating them like second class citizens. Actually, Ireland used to have one of the highest literacy rates for Greek and Roman before the penal laws of any European country. (There was a good few more rebellions in the period from Cromwell to the successful one, beginning in 1916) The penal laws created a new aristocracy of British, generally absentee landlords. Trends continued whereby the catholic majority owned less and less of the land they were living on. By the end of this system, at the time of the Land Wars in Ireland in the 1870s, only 3% of Irish farmers actually owned their own land; the other 97% were tenants of British landlords. These landlords of course were most focused on creating more wealth for themselves, leading them to use much of their land for cattle rearing and other lucrative sales at the time. Now, this took up a lot of land, which meant that the tenant farmers had basically none of their own. The abject poverty the Irish at the time (the 1800s now) is also important mention. “Now I have seen Ireland, it seems to me that the poorest among the Letts, the Estonians and the Finlanders lead a life of comparative luxury.” (Kohl, a German visitor to Ireland in the early C19th) "There never was a country in which poverty existed to the extent that it exists in Ireland.”-the Duke of Wellington Poverty in Ireland was so bad that when Gladstone wrote to Naples to complain about the state of their prisons, they responded by saying that Ireland, outside of prisons, was so much worse and he had no ability to complain therefore. This poverty and lack of land forced subsistence onto the only crop that could support Irish families on such small plots that they had: the potato. Now, living on just one crop alone isn't a good idea, but obviously the Irish had no choice, it was that or starvation. When the blight came, starvation came anyway. The majority of the Irish population, poor tenant farmers, suddenly lost their only source of food. At this time, Ireland was exporting enough food to feed everyone in Ireland many times over, but the British government refused to stop exports. They also provided little to no public aid, with most soup kitchens actually created by independent organisations such as the Quakers. The landlords, with their rents no longer being met, starting mass evictions of the starving families, peaking in 1847 (the worst year of the famine). Again, the British government refused to act. In fact, the man in charge of aid programs, Charles Trevellyan, was famously racist to Irish people, saying: “The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the [irish] people.” Finally, the British government gave aid, with a very important caveat: no irish person was eligible for aid if they owned or occupied more then 1/4 of an acre of land. This was a massive win for the landlords, but meant that the farmers who had to give up their land now had no way to survive in the future. All in all, over a million Irish people died in the famine, a million emigrated, causing the population of Ireland to drop by 20-25%. There's still an ongoing debate in Irish history whether or not this Famine constitues a genocide. So yes, Ireland was most definitely a colony, and yes, England committed atrocities to wipe out the Irish population in history. Same as so many other countries
@Canada1994
@Canada1994 4 жыл бұрын
A recent poll showed that a majority of Northern Irelander's support joining the Republic of Ireland to remain in the EU. Also now a majority of Scots would vote for independence in another referendum.
@MrPennywise1540
@MrPennywise1540 4 жыл бұрын
Holy cow. That´s sound very political problematic. Hope they find a good solution for everyone.
@caleb4790
@caleb4790 4 жыл бұрын
a more recent and bigger poll shows the vast majoiry of people in NI want to stay in the UK
@caseyjason-ws3fr
@caseyjason-ws3fr 4 жыл бұрын
@@caleb4790 I was waiting for this comment
@caleb4790
@caleb4790 4 жыл бұрын
casey jason it’s true tho
@caseyjason-ws3fr
@caseyjason-ws3fr 4 жыл бұрын
Caleb Emerson I know
@mayurs4991
@mayurs4991 6 жыл бұрын
Brexit will have to deal with : 1. Maritime borders with Norway, France, The Netherlands, Belgium and Ireland. 2. Scotland 3. Taxes 4. Visa problems for European communities in the UK The list goes on and on...
@CharlieGB03
@CharlieGB03 6 жыл бұрын
British National Conservative The reason there are going to be far-right parties is because they make small issues that aren’t actually that relevant into major issues. They make people into haters of anyone different to what they are and the country goes into turmoil. This is all fuelled by the refugee crisis and it’s only a crisis because countries like Hungary are refusing to take in any refugees so other countries have to take in more than they should. The UK is not helping either.
@WILLis678
@WILLis678 6 жыл бұрын
The list goes on an on.... Yet you've come up with 4 issues that aren't even issues. Sounds like someone's not done their homework.
@littlezoot
@littlezoot 6 жыл бұрын
Learchusfull Scaremongering, we will still trade with the EU just possibly with tariffs.
@TheRobRok
@TheRobRok 6 жыл бұрын
What about Gibraltar?
@mat7279
@mat7279 6 жыл бұрын
Norway isn't in the EU
@sacmantkolog9528
@sacmantkolog9528 5 жыл бұрын
i wish all irish ppl a good future. loves and respects from turkey.
@douglaz74
@douglaz74 5 жыл бұрын
Nandemonai this is strange since Turkey occupies Northern Cyprus after invading it in 1974. How about giving northern Cyprus back to south Cyprus
@pauliewalnuts100
@pauliewalnuts100 5 жыл бұрын
I'll send love to Turkey when you get rid of that gangster Erdogan.
@mrhoppy_9724
@mrhoppy_9724 5 жыл бұрын
Linden Village “tiocfaidh ár lá” basically. Condoning terrorism I see.. tut tut tut
@greyson042290
@greyson042290 5 жыл бұрын
We would accept your love if you leave the CYPRUS alone!
@shamelkhan9474
@shamelkhan9474 5 жыл бұрын
@@greyson042290 look it's not like they're doing anything. It's the leaders of the country. Stop going after Turkish people who have nothing to do with it.
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The British starved over 2,000,000 Irish people to death and over 1,000,000 out of the country (which is why their is so many Americans with Irish heritage). Ireland is the only country that had a larger population in the 1800s than it does now.
@sq0648
@sq0648 3 жыл бұрын
Well it was the blight that starved us but the Brits didn't help much
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 3 жыл бұрын
@@sq0648 The blight was around much longer than the famine. People started starving whenever the British started exporting food. Do you seriously think we relied solely on Potatoes as a food source? Because we didn't, wheat and Corn were just as common but the British hardly wanted rotten potato's as they were obviously not valuable at all. They viewed Ireland as Britain's bread basket, population reduction was viewed as a good thing by the UK government. Queen Victoria didn't donate until the international media started pressuring the crown, the monarchy literally rejected a massive donation (that would have been worth millions today) from the Ottoman Empire, the King of Ottoman Empire snuck food into the town of Drogheda which is the reason some people are alive today. The Choctaw tribe in America donated all they could, despite them struggling themselves. The UK didn't just refuse to feed us, they starved us.
@themaskedman221
@themaskedman221 2 жыл бұрын
Utter nonsense. The British didn't "starve 2 million people"; most of the 1 million people who died in the Famine were killed by infectious diseases, not literal starvation. In the Irish were "British" in the 19th Century.
@nulnoh219
@nulnoh219 Жыл бұрын
It's a British thing, they did the same to India.
@gerardcollins80
@gerardcollins80 3 жыл бұрын
April 2021: the violance that was predicted and dismissed by Boris is now being realised.
@secobain
@secobain 3 жыл бұрын
The riots in Belfast and Derry aren't about Brexit they are over members of the executive publicly breaking covid law and nothing being done about it.
@stevenmcalister826
@stevenmcalister826 3 жыл бұрын
@@secobain covid law they broke 8 months ago.....
@secobain
@secobain 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying it makes sense but that's what it's over.
@Daniel-uw9il
@Daniel-uw9il 6 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting! I love this series
@dalasnoin969
@dalasnoin969 6 жыл бұрын
they also forgot about the british territories on cyprus
@dereklambe
@dereklambe 6 жыл бұрын
Crack Lord Ireland was always one nation. It was never a unified state in the Westphalian sense because it was colonised so long ago. However, in the next few decades it will be reunited.
@carljohnson9572
@carljohnson9572 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel rios 900th like.
@MR-ym3hg
@MR-ym3hg 6 жыл бұрын
Anthony Ryan A bit of unsolicited advice if you're open to it: While I agree with your argument, I can't help but wince at your tone. IMO if you cut out the "so your wrong" and just stated your case, you would be much more effective in making your point, because it would make it more clear that you are arguing the point, not the person. Good argument nonetheless.
@NylonSeas
@NylonSeas 6 жыл бұрын
Crack Lord they were untitled for 2 days I think after the creation of the free state before NI used Thier opt out to leave the free state
@fenhen
@fenhen 6 жыл бұрын
Basically, the Uk government has a ridiculous negotiating position. It’s said “no” to every option.
@aidanclarke6106
@aidanclarke6106 6 жыл бұрын
fenhen - I agree . Theresa May has been painting red lines all around her to please everyone and now she has nowhere to go. She is clueless
@Carrjimbo
@Carrjimbo 6 жыл бұрын
There is more then four options. For example art 24 of the Gatt allows for seemless boarders if negotiating towards a permant deal over an intrum period of 10 years. That's one medium term solution with plenty of time to figure out and facilitate a long term one. Other option are the UK and Ireland simply refuse to build any hard boarder infrastructure you can't have a hard boarder unless someone actively builds it because there is nothing there at the moment.
@aidanclarke6106
@aidanclarke6106 6 жыл бұрын
James Car - Yet Theresa May has been unable to choose one yet and we are at 2.5 months of the deadline for a deal. 🤦‍♂️
@HabituallyObsessed
@HabituallyObsessed 6 жыл бұрын
+James Car Which would be nothing more than an extension of what the UK government has been doing for the past two years - kicking the can down the road. Any reason why the EU, let alone Ireland, would agree to that? At this point, no one outside the UK even cares about Brexit anymore - everyone but the Brits has accepted that there will be consequences for everyone, and all everyone wants is certainty. And your plan is 10 more years of uncertainty? Brilliant strategy. Also, even from a hardline Brexiteer's point of view, what good comes out of having no hard border? All the immigrants you want to keep out could simply sneak into the UK by way of Ireland. And when it comes to a choice between a hard border and the integrity of the single market, don't be so sure about which way Ireland is going to go.
@Carrjimbo
@Carrjimbo 6 жыл бұрын
First of all Ireland has committed to no hard border and has said it would not put in place the necessary infrastructure, which the UK government has also said they would not do. Leaving this in a bit of a difficult situation of if there is going to be a hard boarder (which no one wants) who is actually going to build it. The Uk said it won't as did Ireland and the EU has no means of putting it in place itself. Now presuming someone is in a position to build it you then can look at solution like that provided by the WTO under Art 24 of the GATT, how implementing a seamless boarder immediately (10 year interim agreement) and negotiating its permanent presence (if the time its taking to negotiate this is your problem then i suggest you find alternative interest to international law and politics negotiation and slow negotiation is how things work unfortunately) is a bad thing, you will have to explain as it solve the issue that is central to this problem in that there would be no hard boarder. In regards to the hardline Brexit view pretty much all the major Brexit players including Farage, Johnson et al have all said they do not want a hard boarder with ireland and are happy to see the necessary agreements in place that allow for frictionless trade and movement of people over it. In fact Frage has even been advocating for a special agreement for Ireland if the rest of the EU can reach one that would ensure none of these problems are issues in the future. In regards to Immigrant ireland has a CTA with the UK that existed before the EU ever even existed and no-one not even the hardest of Breiters have advocated its removal. In regards to other immigrants Ireland is not a member of Shengan so it can control and record those that come in an out. Plus immigrants from Europe that have free movement to Ireland I can assure have zero interest in moving to NI for work purposes and if they do go to NI they would still have to cross from NI into the rest of the UK allowing the UK authorities to prevent entrance hence solving the movement problem.
@freddyparkinson3820
@freddyparkinson3820 4 жыл бұрын
There’s so many comments here roasting the UK
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 4 жыл бұрын
I love it
@fallward917
@fallward917 4 жыл бұрын
lol the it's just the irony of the UK struggling from border issues while they drew half of the worlds borders
@tcw_6609
@tcw_6609 4 жыл бұрын
You would think with all of these comments that UK would crumble under the pressure...
@jaydenwong3345
@jaydenwong3345 3 жыл бұрын
uhh because uk deserves to be roasted?
@aidenvideos499
@aidenvideos499 3 жыл бұрын
@Khushi Bidhuri Survival of the fittest.
@gemini-mg6sc
@gemini-mg6sc 3 жыл бұрын
This aged well.
@RealEngineering
@RealEngineering 6 жыл бұрын
Tiocfaidh ár lá.
@SnazzBot
@SnazzBot 6 жыл бұрын
Would be a nice present for 7 January 2022.
@FranciT98
@FranciT98 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like it might be sooner than later
@hammy9019
@hammy9019 6 жыл бұрын
Buachail an-maith!
@BHPproductions1
@BHPproductions1 6 жыл бұрын
Real Engineering go luath go leor
@jimmyneutron3806
@jimmyneutron3806 6 жыл бұрын
Real engineering best channel 👌🏼
@mookiecookie44
@mookiecookie44 5 жыл бұрын
It is worth mentioning that the only reason that there's a protestant majority in the north is because of a conscious effort by the British to colonize the north with huge numbers of Scottish protestant settlers, thereby removing innumerable native Irish from their homes and land. It was the descendants of those Scottish settlers who remained loyal to the Crown throughout the 20th century, not the native Irish. Sure, that goes back to the 16th century, but it was a problem that was intentionally and deliberately introduced to the island of Ireland by the very idiots who are now attempting to once again rip the island in half.
@drahcir6590
@drahcir6590 5 жыл бұрын
So the Native Irish who left Ireland to form Scotland return and you say they are "colonizing" Northern Ireland like they have no right to be there! It was their ancient homeland. But because they had a different religion you want to change the narrative to fit your criteria of who is "Irish".
@NiallMcEvoy05
@NiallMcEvoy05 5 жыл бұрын
Ye but democracy is democracy so it would inhumane to say that the Protestant vote should not be valid because of the actions of there ancestors
@freeeire564
@freeeire564 5 жыл бұрын
Nnelg Drahcir No it wasn’t native Irish returning from Scotland..
@drahcir6590
@drahcir6590 5 жыл бұрын
@@freeeire564 OP said "colonize the north with huge numbers of Scottish protestant settlers" The Scots are from Ireland. So how can they colonize a place that is their original homeland? That's just "returning" not colonising.
@laurenkahre4785
@laurenkahre4785 5 жыл бұрын
Nnelg Drahcir the only reason we confirmed that some scots are originally from Ireland is through genetic evidence. They left hundreds and thousands of years ago. You can’t leave some place thousands of years ago, come back and say, “just kidding this is my homeland I own it now.” I’m of partially English descent, but my ancestors came to America in the 1600s. I can’t just go to my ancestral homes in Kent and Devon move in and say, “This used to be my house 500 years ago, so it’s mine again and you have to give me UK citizen.” That’s not how that works.
@Shootskas
@Shootskas 3 жыл бұрын
Unify Ireland. If the Unionists have a problem with it, just move to the mainland.
@geekyradical4985
@geekyradical4985 3 жыл бұрын
The majority of folks in Northern Ireland are unionists who see themselves as part of the UK. They have a right fo self-determination. To say otherwise would be kind of imperialist, wouldn't it?
@geekyradical4985
@geekyradical4985 3 жыл бұрын
@Kelly 22 If they've lived there all their lives, it kind of is their land, isn't it?
@Shootskas
@Shootskas 3 жыл бұрын
@@geekyradical4985 yes...that's exactly what it is. Isn't that what the EU is about?
@geekyradical4985
@geekyradical4985 3 жыл бұрын
@Kelly 22 Unionists are not a minority in Northern Ireland. If they don't want to be part of the Irish Republic, so be it. It's their decision. What happens there affects them, not us.
@geekyradical4985
@geekyradical4985 3 жыл бұрын
@Kelly 22 The fact that there's no sea separating Northern Ireland from the Irish Republic doesn't change any of what I just said. There's no sea separating the US from Mexico or Canada, but that doesn't mean that the US should try to take over those countries.
@Mark-Joyce
@Mark-Joyce 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not an Irish border. It’s a British border on the island of Ireland. Tíocfaidh ar lá.
@vloglifesubscribe
@vloglifesubscribe 4 жыл бұрын
Yar da sells avon
@Aedpowell6490
@Aedpowell6490 4 жыл бұрын
Erin go Braugh
@vloglifesubscribe
@vloglifesubscribe 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Powell sorry I speak English
@inactiveuserakashahb3201
@inactiveuserakashahb3201 4 жыл бұрын
I'm Welsh and I think that N. Ireland should be in Ireland.
@tcw_6609
@tcw_6609 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but the people of Northern Ireland dont want to be part of ireland. What you as a welshman thinks literally dosnt matter
@JC_303
@JC_303 6 жыл бұрын
So, Vox Atlas is about borders now and Vox Borders isnt about borders now :/
@bhagyaramanunny4987
@bhagyaramanunny4987 6 жыл бұрын
Disco 😂😂😂😂
@allabouthewaves4354
@allabouthewaves4354 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@0Clewi0
@0Clewi0 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, I was starting to believe both channels were about BGM with the volume balance.
@amdperacha
@amdperacha 6 жыл бұрын
Disco hahaha well you know geography and sociology go hand in hand!
@thebahooplamaster
@thebahooplamaster 6 жыл бұрын
In a way, I’m surprised that I never learned this in my World History class
@FirstnameLastname-qc3xx
@FirstnameLastname-qc3xx 6 жыл бұрын
thebahooplamaster blame that on the people who make the curriculum. They think learning about ancient India is more important lol. Ireland and England have like 800 years of fighting.
@Sir_Budginton
@Sir_Budginton 6 жыл бұрын
The thing about history is that it is such a large topic that you can’t do everything in detail, there simply isn’t time. The only way you could was if you spent each history lesson giving yourself a crash course in that part of history, but your knowledge in each topic would be very shallow. For example, where I live in the uk, history is very Eurocentric. I’ve heard that American education is very America centric, and I’m sure that’s the case all over the world. In my history classes we barley touched Asia. For example the only time China was ever mentioned was during my WW2 history classes where we simply learnt that japan attacked China in 1937, and that an argument could be made that WW2 started then and not in 1939.
@safebox36
@safebox36 6 жыл бұрын
I learned about it for most of my school education. Not worth it, believe me. Too much bitter fighting over stupid reasons.
@IgnoresTrolls
@IgnoresTrolls 6 жыл бұрын
thebahooplamaster Where are you from?
@gracieeee2002
@gracieeee2002 6 жыл бұрын
It's the main focus on the Northern Irish curriculum (I'm Northern Irish) and to whoever called the fighting stupid, yes for some reasons the fighting as god awful and idiotic but remember that prior to 1960's the Catholics faced discrimination similar to that which blacks faced in 1960's America, maybe not as bad but it is comparable so its a very important topic for pretty much everyone in the UK to understand so that we can avoid it happening again. Suprisingly, the little englanders who voted to leave don't even know we exist.
@delrey874
@delrey874 3 жыл бұрын
It is very interesting that the American media teaches the history of Britain and Ireland in more detail than the British schools.
@lew3813
@lew3813 3 жыл бұрын
Really? Most of my years in school were spent on Germany and the history of Northern Ireland.
@recluse4788
@recluse4788 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, why is it that every country's education system is better at teaching another country's history than their own history?
@rishabhsolanki7595
@rishabhsolanki7595 4 жыл бұрын
1:25 *UK divided the land based on population* Me Indian to my Pakistani friend: they talking about us.
@jennieburns9080
@jennieburns9080 3 жыл бұрын
India and Ireland have so many similarities thanks to the british taking no consideration when drawing borders 😣 1921 and 1947 they could've learned from what they did to ireland but they just didn't
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 3 жыл бұрын
We both suffered huge famines, caused by the uk too :/
@safuwanfauzi5014
@safuwanfauzi5014 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamender9092 i always support ireland, ireland are good people, they never trouble any nation.
@geekyradical4985
@geekyradical4985 3 жыл бұрын
@@safuwanfauzi5014 Sure. LOL.
@srimanjha5112
@srimanjha5112 3 жыл бұрын
@@geekyradical4985 what lol?
@dapperr1619
@dapperr1619 6 жыл бұрын
Has anybody noticed, (who knows about it anyway) how nobody talks about the British supported, paramilitary groups? It's all about the I.R.A, And how terrible the things they did, yet NOBODY talks about the paramilitaries supported by the british, Who killed hundreds of innocent civilians and arrested men for "crimes" that are sometimes just made up on the spot.
@Conbom3
@Conbom3 6 жыл бұрын
No one talks about the ruc allowing the hard-line unionist groups either
@dvidclapperton
@dvidclapperton 5 жыл бұрын
Reporting east of the Irish sea during the troubles was very one sided.
@someonenoneofyourbuisnessn5194
@someonenoneofyourbuisnessn5194 5 жыл бұрын
My da got sued for dropping paper, then picking it up again
@justinoconnor3273
@justinoconnor3273 5 жыл бұрын
Fk the ruc uff udr uff
@TheClemcaster
@TheClemcaster 5 жыл бұрын
Inconvenient truth.
@joemagee6125
@joemagee6125 6 жыл бұрын
I live in Northern Ireland and this is a huge issue and what doesnt help is that Northern Ireland hasn't had a government (at all) for over 2 years
@skeletalsimon
@skeletalsimon 6 жыл бұрын
Jamalam time to join the republic. Stay part of the EU. Enjoy the benefits of a proper location government not run overseas in another countries Parliament. The Irish are your brothers and sisters. The English are cousins overseas.
@douvik8615
@douvik8615 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Bones they erased their identity it's sad
@joemagee6125
@joemagee6125 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Bones I would but I like NI and the NHS though it is flawed, but what country isn’t we have had trouble but we continue to mature we are less than 100 years old
@screamingchimp
@screamingchimp 6 жыл бұрын
I feel alot of the pro-reunification people take for granted the benefits of being in the UK, the NHS being a prime example.
@sodaking6858
@sodaking6858 6 жыл бұрын
Jamalam 1 year 7 months its a mess and will make post brexit very difficult face it the north really won't like England deciding how its run
@BongoEdits
@BongoEdits 4 жыл бұрын
Ireland unfree shall never be at peace.
@NapoleonBonaparte05
@NapoleonBonaparte05 4 жыл бұрын
Ya big rip
@CatholicWeeb
@CatholicWeeb 3 жыл бұрын
This is a quote from Padraig Pearse
@BongoEdits
@BongoEdits 3 жыл бұрын
MikeyGeess correct!
@macdaraoraghallaigh7343
@macdaraoraghallaigh7343 3 жыл бұрын
- The man, the Republican, the legend, Padraig Mac Pearse
@sxmlong
@sxmlong 3 жыл бұрын
Ireland is at peace
@mcivor321
@mcivor321 4 жыл бұрын
Very simple solution: Reunified Ireland. Should never have been partitioned in the first place
@pa7447
@pa7447 4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense all the British really wanted was the Naval ports
@pa7447
@pa7447 4 жыл бұрын
@le Hoarderz Al-Shekelsteins invasion of ireland was like invasion of britain for the outsiders (wales) and scotland and then oliver cromwell's brutal slaughter in ireland and deliberate starvation of irish people by queen victoria and today that horrible elitist country of england ruled by a queen goes on. Seeking to reassert itself in America. Don't make america great britain again.
@ericn1450
@ericn1450 4 жыл бұрын
Then why do the Northern Irish continually support remaining in the union? The last referendum was a blow out victory for Unionism. Even though the vast majority of Republican supporters boycotted that election it didn’t matter. Their are plenty of polls that show that up to 50% of Catholics could vote to remain in the union if another referendum vote occurred.
@jeelianbb6405
@jeelianbb6405 4 жыл бұрын
Would be great if it were that easy.
@bigjuicypotato1482
@bigjuicypotato1482 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. That will never happen. Protestants will never agree.
@dejajackson9814
@dejajackson9814 5 жыл бұрын
Ireland isn’t the only overland border with the EU. Gibraltar is also a major point of contention that must be addressed.
@tommccaffrey4744
@tommccaffrey4744 5 жыл бұрын
this is irrelevant
@mrubuntuking5257
@mrubuntuking5257 5 жыл бұрын
It's already been addressed. Britain will keep it, Spain will keep buzzing British ships and making provocative statements so Spain's right wing populist parties can fearmonger to stay in government, and the EU won't try to separate and keep Gibraltar any more than they'd try to separate and keep Yorkshire. Ultimately, Spain can do nothing. They constantly threaten to veto whatever the latest Brexit-related thing is, but they haven't done it yet and won't try anytime soon because they owe a gazillion dollars to the ECB that they have no intention of ever paying back, and can't afford to risk getting Brussels mad at them. Spain is basically being given an unlimited free money spigot by the EU in exchange for not turning their Brexit-complicating words to action over Gibraltar, on the condition that if they ever excercise a veto or sink British ships, they'll spend the next 200 years paying all of it back. So far, the plan seems to be working, Spain for all their empty drama has toed the EU line without fail.
@johnjohansson6277
@johnjohansson6277 5 жыл бұрын
Gibraltar is child’s play compared to Ireland.
@bubbabluehorn
@bubbabluehorn 5 жыл бұрын
I hate the term fear monger and how it is always compared to the right. There are more cases I see of the left. Death threats of right wing politicians if the right had there way you’ll all be oppressed that sorta thing. The only unreasonable fear I can see from the right is about illegal immigration... why are we afraid of them if we can just kick them out like we have always done.
@user-qi5jw2hg1c
@user-qi5jw2hg1c 5 жыл бұрын
No one cares about an imperial rock
@ellaobrien3425
@ellaobrien3425 5 жыл бұрын
Ireland didn’t vote for brexit Northern Ireland did vote but wanted to stay Yet these two countries are going to feel massive repercussions from the votes of the people in England People who weren’t educated about Ireland’s past with troubles and tensions that began with the the English planters in Ireland hundreds of years ago. Not the people’s fault, the governments of the past and present’s fault for not educating people on this history before this vote took place
@thedukeofwellington2754
@thedukeofwellington2754 5 жыл бұрын
Ella O'Brien It’s a pretty common stereotype (and a fact as well to be honest) that it was older people who mainly voted for Brexit. The Good Friday agreement that ended The Troubles was signed in 1998. Most people who voted for Brexit would have therefore remembered the tube bombings, killing of Lord Mountbatten and everything else that came with The Troubles. They obviously know of the conflict and therefore probably know somewhat of its origins. I think you are trying to say they didn’t think enough of the issue before voting to leave. Also why should people in the UK learn about a random country with a 16th of its population? We aren’t even taught of matters like our own unification. We have more useful and important things to learn about.
@human_sheeple243
@human_sheeple243 5 жыл бұрын
Why should Ireland vote
@seaghnelson9873
@seaghnelson9873 5 жыл бұрын
In Scotland its a very common thing to be caught
@drahcir6590
@drahcir6590 5 жыл бұрын
the people of N. Ireland voted with the rest of the UK to leave. Or are you cherry picking regions to fit your agenda?
@taintabird23
@taintabird23 5 жыл бұрын
@ The Duke of Wellington 'Also why should people in the UK learn about a random country with a 16th of its population.' To combat ignorance. They might even find out that its not even a 'random country', but a country with whom they share a border and history.
@PeanutButter0004
@PeanutButter0004 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody’s empire days are over. UK gotta chill and give Northern Ireland back
@craigdorrian7391
@craigdorrian7391 4 жыл бұрын
gannonball 69 a majority want to stay, that’s why Northern Ireland exists
@galaxyred7
@galaxyred7 4 жыл бұрын
But a majority wanted to stay in the EU. So sounds like they are sick of being pushed around
@craigdorrian7391
@craigdorrian7391 4 жыл бұрын
THE LUCKE CHARMER yeah it’s tough, chances are a United Ireland will happen, which will more than likely remain in the EU, but that’ll be up to the people of Northern Ireland to decide, the people shouldn’t be forced into one nation or another, yes that’s been done in the past, but it shouldn’t happen today.
@huy4512
@huy4512 4 жыл бұрын
Infinity Galaxy 501 I don’t understand. A majority of people wanted to stay in the EU, but do they vote to abandon their British citizenship?
@seamyward1004
@seamyward1004 4 жыл бұрын
Or someone has to take it back don't think there ever gonna do that
@wobblyivy9558
@wobblyivy9558 4 жыл бұрын
5:50 I like how we get to see Boris Johnson in the background
@josephinegeoghegan2913
@josephinegeoghegan2913 6 жыл бұрын
I also feel it's worth mentioning that catholics were discrimimated against in policy and it was much harder for them to own property or obtain jobs. It wasn't just about identity.
@treasanic6427
@treasanic6427 6 жыл бұрын
Josephine Geoghegan and civil rights
@sammclaughlin2315
@sammclaughlin2315 6 жыл бұрын
And that is why the troubles started
@josephmiller8464
@josephmiller8464 6 жыл бұрын
So were Protestants the wars went back and forth for awhile
@ussatlas7306
@ussatlas7306 6 жыл бұрын
I believe Irish people will have a more strong voice with the EU at their side! Plus they forgot EU can send soldiers to Ireland incase UK send troops to the "union" side. Hope all end in good terms like they do in the good friday!
@josephinegeoghegan2913
@josephinegeoghegan2913 6 жыл бұрын
@@josephmiller8464 This is the first I've heard of it. Any resources on that?
@EnvAdam
@EnvAdam 6 жыл бұрын
I thought brexit was stupid and I still think its stupid :/
@jbo4547
@jbo4547 6 жыл бұрын
Have any actual reasons except what you feel?
@davilip
@davilip 6 жыл бұрын
It does not benefit the UK at all. Where did you get that information?
@learnabox7177
@learnabox7177 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't imagine it's supposed to benefit the EU.
@learnabox7177
@learnabox7177 6 жыл бұрын
Scotland won't leave because they had a vote just a few years ago. The SNP lost 21 seats at the last general election so that says enough.
@CharlieGB03
@CharlieGB03 6 жыл бұрын
The revolutionary empire Leave what? The EU? They voted to remain
@wzupppp
@wzupppp 5 жыл бұрын
The UK basically shot itself in the foot
@wzupppp
@wzupppp 4 жыл бұрын
@smokinjoe11 yea it would be better if they negotiated while staying i the EU
@kamanashiskar9203
@kamanashiskar9203 3 жыл бұрын
@@wzupppp Then I guess the American colonists should have negotiated and stayed.
@kamanashiskar9203
@kamanashiskar9203 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the USA shot itself in the foot by declaring independence from Great Britain.
@mikar3601
@mikar3601 5 жыл бұрын
Vox, great job as usual with explaining the history and presenting the visuals. Really good material, easily understood and well presented. A+
@anthonyebell
@anthonyebell 6 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't this a part of the 'borders' series? Edit: I loved the video and the Atlas series anyway, but this felt like a borders video without Johnny getting interviews with people that live on the border facing passport checks to get milk.
@MrLee353
@MrLee353 6 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@Sean-yq1wm
@Sean-yq1wm 6 жыл бұрын
not enough people of colour for vox
@MermaidTyrone
@MermaidTyrone 6 жыл бұрын
Because the guy doing it didn't travel there. Also he's doing Borders in Hong Kong, like 5 vids, yet asians aren't poc, so that doesn't make any sense.
@MrUtuber29
@MrUtuber29 6 жыл бұрын
Because the border guy is boring us on Hong Kong.
@kiro9291
@kiro9291 6 жыл бұрын
Borders involves the host visiting the place and doing live interviews Atlas is just international news
@lenboy2
@lenboy2 6 жыл бұрын
Gibraltar is another overseas territory a territory of the UK that shares a land border with the EU (spain) and faces the same kind of problem as Ireland and Northern Ireland
@jmcc8156
@jmcc8156 6 жыл бұрын
Leonared Hosey Jr Yes, but the reponse from the Gibraltarians to Spain's attempt at a land grab was something along the lines of "Do your worst. If the United Kingdom is leaving, we are too." These people I like.
@roshansundar6618
@roshansundar6618 6 жыл бұрын
J MCC But Gibraltar relies on the tourism that Spain provides through the EU. Without that, Gibraltar could end up like NI
@boredinlecture
@boredinlecture 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t have the same problem at all. A hard border in Gibraltar won’t start a war. A hard border in Ireland will.
@warmachineuk
@warmachineuk 6 жыл бұрын
Gibraltar doesn't have paramilitaries kneecapping people. Even a customs border won't have much effect on traffic and trade there, so no one's concerned.
@ASTUALPHA
@ASTUALPHA 6 жыл бұрын
michael lynch It wont start a war, but it will become impossible to have a economy there with a closed border
@HiteshPatel-vy2me
@HiteshPatel-vy2me 5 жыл бұрын
Hey vox can you make a video explaining brexit from beginning Really looking forward for it
@chuahseongteik4488
@chuahseongteik4488 3 жыл бұрын
How could they do something so complex and hard
@ramal5708
@ramal5708 3 жыл бұрын
Take a look at Dunkirk Evacuation, it's probably successful large scale Brexit in history, as far as I know
@larssrensen4353
@larssrensen4353 2 жыл бұрын
since when do indians care about europe?
@nonamegrey1331
@nonamegrey1331 2 жыл бұрын
Why do they want Northern Ireland so bad just untied Ireland would be so much better
@avaodonnell3273
@avaodonnell3273 6 жыл бұрын
I live by the border and this is a very real issue for me, my friends, family and community- I live on the republic side however have friends minutes away in Northern Ireland and visit often :( tensions have never really been settled (though softened greatly) and travelling to northern Irish cities especially during the Orange Marches is chilling knowing you can't leave your car unattended (as my family car has been damaged and tired slashed simply for having a Donegal number plate before) Yeah there's funny stories of hitch hiking with soldiers to school and bike smuggling over borders for pocket money from those who lived through past times but I have no comprehension of how you'd want to spark them up again- chats were interfered with through radio, goods taken from cars from crooked soldiers and a LOT of segregation leading to disgusting hate and violence as this further splits us why increase the danger and awaken hate, segregation and mistrust?
@acorgiwithacrown467
@acorgiwithacrown467 6 жыл бұрын
It'll be hell on earth up near the border if they decide to undermine all the trouble we went through to get peace.
@Spongebrain97
@Spongebrain97 6 жыл бұрын
I get the history involved there but I mean god damn they're on the same island and Catholic/protestant relations aren't nearly as bad as they used to be. I wonder if its just the older generations in NI that would oppose Irish unification
@e.a.1548
@e.a.1548 6 жыл бұрын
I lived a similar situation myself, what I did? Put a couple of stickers in the car, seriously, it might seem a joke but I haven't had any more incidents since. If your plate is from the south put a couple of stickers that represent the north like the remembrance day ones! Its very helpful
@ONeill01
@ONeill01 6 жыл бұрын
VerifiedNoob Aye tell that to the 30,000 people who depend on the open border each and every day
@moth.monster
@moth.monster 6 жыл бұрын
They want to create hatred and mistrust because it gives them power. Construct an enemy for the people (in the case of Brexit, immigrants) so you can construct a way to "fight" that false enemy, fulfulling your own agendas in the process.
@CharlieGB03
@CharlieGB03 6 жыл бұрын
I suggest that Scotland and Northern Ireland should both be allowed to have a referendum: Scotland on Independence and Northern Ireland on reunification with Ireland. Both overwhelming voted to remain in the European Union so I think that’s its only fair to give them a voice in these negotiations. If England and Wales want to leave - that’s fine, just don’t force Scotland and Northern Ireland to do something that they don’t want to do.
@emilyscloset2648
@emilyscloset2648 6 жыл бұрын
You have to remember it was 51 to 49 that's hardly a mandate
@CharlieGB03
@CharlieGB03 6 жыл бұрын
Learchusfull I hope she does if that happens, it’s unfair on Scotland if they have to go through with a hard Brexit
@lucaquinn7707
@lucaquinn7707 6 жыл бұрын
To hold a referendum on reunification would be to essentially restart the Troubles, or a least create sparks that could light that fire if given enough fuel. N.I is at the least 15-20 years off being stable enough to hold such a referendum.
@josuebartley7272
@josuebartley7272 6 жыл бұрын
NI and Scotland should just unite into one independent country
@littlezoot
@littlezoot 6 жыл бұрын
Josue Bartley72 Scotland has the highest national debt in the UK, and if it left, it would have a debt equal to the amount Greece has (per GDP), so y would the EU want Scotland by themselves, if they left the uk
@jackpalmer6024
@jackpalmer6024 4 жыл бұрын
Probably should've mentioned the Ulster plantations in this
@icemanire5467
@icemanire5467 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, literally the source of the conflict. Lets just leave that small detail out.
@niamha6079
@niamha6079 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely. A lot of people will watch this video and think they know everything about what happened. (not everybody, but it happens often enough)
@adhamhmacconchobhair7565
@adhamhmacconchobhair7565 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@tomoshea7230
@tomoshea7230 3 жыл бұрын
Yes forgot to mention why the north has a Protestant majority they didn't just grow out of the ground
@Ghost_of_Michael_Collins
@Ghost_of_Michael_Collins 3 жыл бұрын
They also left out the war of independence. As if Britain would spontaneously want to leave the island
@geroutathat
@geroutathat 5 жыл бұрын
Firstly, It was not the view of the IRA that the north was part of Ireland, it was the view of the Republic of Ireland too. The tensions did not rise because of border, but because Irish nationalists were treated woefully. The Republic of Ireland gave up this claim on the north as part of the Good Friday agreement. What did the UK have to give up? to promise not to put up a border and to allow them an equal vote. So if the UK wants to throw the GFA in the bin, then Ireland reinstates its claim that the north is part of the Republic part of the EU and the UK is a foreign army inside the EU, this stance was backed up by the EU who said they would wholly and totally accept this. You simply cant trust the UK, Ireland gave up total claim to the land and UK just had to do what they were already doing, not build a border, now they are tested they cant honour their end.
@sajibsjb
@sajibsjb 5 жыл бұрын
Can't argue with colonialists
@TheHeatingEngineer
@TheHeatingEngineer 5 жыл бұрын
I like your comment. You seem to be thinking realistically which most people don't do IMHO. However, as I commented above, I don't think the British government will allow reunification because it could be perceived as weakening Britain's western flank (militarily).
@TheLastAngryMan01
@TheLastAngryMan01 5 жыл бұрын
arronison That will happen in the next decade or two given the decline in the PULSE demographic and the upswing in the CNR demographic. You evidently don’t know much about the Republic of Ireland’s relationship with the IRA given that it pretty routinely interned, tortured, imprisoned IRA members through the Special Criminal Court (often merely on the word of an individual policeman) and placed a broadcast ban on Republicans . Doesn’t really sound like a relationship between allies to me.
@jcgw2
@jcgw2 6 жыл бұрын
What about the border at Gibraltar
@kjj26k
@kjj26k 6 жыл бұрын
-What about the Droid attack on the Wookies?- Good question tho
@GlennWolfschoon
@GlennWolfschoon 6 жыл бұрын
No one cares about Gibraltar.
@aj-zl8ju
@aj-zl8ju 6 жыл бұрын
There's already clips on it .
@jackhempenstall900
@jackhempenstall900 6 жыл бұрын
I think Gibraltar is going to stay in the customs union as its heavily dependent on the free trade from Spain and tourist coming through Spain.
@rickenfatania
@rickenfatania 6 жыл бұрын
In the video he said NI has the only overland border with the EU...
@exese3969
@exese3969 6 жыл бұрын
the only reason brexit is happening is because England wants to keep their memes. Also how tf did this become a serious discussion? Like jeez it’s a joke don’t make it all political
@PanzerFaustFurious
@PanzerFaustFurious 6 жыл бұрын
meh, people hate brown people, that's why
@conorgildea1163
@conorgildea1163 6 жыл бұрын
And thought all the money that they have to give the eu in the NHS Which is now know as a blatant lie
@lodgin
@lodgin 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't exactly phrase it as hating brown people but there has certainly been a growing sentiment within the UK of wanting less immigration, especially since the refugee crisis. I don't think it would be controversial to say that immigration was most people's main issue when voting Leave. I've heard people talk about sovereignty of our courts and legislature, but that has always been a secondary argument, an _oh and also..._ I just hope we don't screw ourselves over too much because of our ever increasing desire to keep the continent at arm's length.
@conorgildea1163
@conorgildea1163 6 жыл бұрын
But you do have to admit that immigrants and give the NHS all the eu money was a big part of it I personally feel people didn't know what they were voting for and should have a second referendum
@RubenKelevra
@RubenKelevra 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, upcoming war will be called meme-war.
@bendixon800
@bendixon800 3 жыл бұрын
It’s super fun being a British person who voted remain knowing that there was no answer to that problem in 2016. Here we are in 2020, middle of a pandemic, and there’s still no answer beyond “what if we just cut off GB from the world and pretend it doesn’t exist” I weep.
@inigobantok1579
@inigobantok1579 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't the NI Protocol already answered that
@bendixon800
@bendixon800 3 жыл бұрын
@@inigobantok1579 absolutely not. All that did was push the problem down the road for someone else to deal with once Boris is gone. A fully open border is the best way to secure peace in Ireland, the only way to do that is by following EU rules. Someone has to give somewhere, and it won’t be the continental union of 20+ countries.
@inigobantok1579
@inigobantok1579 3 жыл бұрын
@@bendixon800 which the NI Protocol does by allowing Northern Ireland exclusively to be in the EU customs union which will would expire until 2024 but I agree its kicking the can out of the road but a solution nonetheless
@bendixon800
@bendixon800 3 жыл бұрын
@@inigobantok1579 But it’s not, because now the “border” as it were is just in the sea instead. They opened a flesh wound and tried to close it with a plaster, nobody wins. I’m almost certain the UK will rejoin the EU in my lifetime. I’d put money on it .
@karldaly9799
@karldaly9799 3 жыл бұрын
Well looks like they took the sea border option, one step closer to a United Ireland 🇮🇪
@billyring9803
@billyring9803 6 жыл бұрын
Option 5, the UK under direct rule from Dublin
@marzuqahmed218
@marzuqahmed218 6 жыл бұрын
Option 6 (insert option here)
@holnrew
@holnrew 6 жыл бұрын
Yes please. Can't be worse than the current shower of bastards
@billyring9803
@billyring9803 6 жыл бұрын
@@marzuqahmed218 return of Holy roman empire
@Marylandbrony
@Marylandbrony 6 жыл бұрын
Option 6: Admit Brexit is a mistake and reverse it. Kind of like 3 but more extreme.
@Locutus
@Locutus 6 жыл бұрын
Option 6, Ireland becomes part of the UK, and the EU issue is resolved.
@thomasmackelly7685
@thomasmackelly7685 6 жыл бұрын
If Brexit voters end up being the reason to cede northern ireland over, I'm gonna laugh and laugh.
@thedude5294
@thedude5294 6 жыл бұрын
john m you mean the Mercian worker, I don't see those Welsh shits doing bugger all.
@ciarancassidy7566
@ciarancassidy7566 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah Brexit voters are way too racist to care about control over an area full of "foreigners" most would prefer to cede the North.
@Cyime
@Cyime 6 жыл бұрын
All the polling shows that Brexiters in the rest of the country are pretty much happy to give up Northern Ireland for a full fat brexit with sprinkles on top.
@buttercrazy30
@buttercrazy30 6 жыл бұрын
@John M, You do realize that brexit is only going forward because Northern Ireland is propping Conservative party into power? So your argument that NI is socialist shithole like saying "all the right wing nutjobs in england leeching of hard working Londoners".
@Cyime
@Cyime 6 жыл бұрын
john m I’m so glad you’re happy to sacrifice huge amounts of our territory and diminish our status as a power to leave the EU? Do you by chance work for the Kremlin? Because I find it hard to believe a patriotic Brit wants to weaken his own nation.
@Valhura77
@Valhura77 4 жыл бұрын
"Not everyone wanted the British to leave" yeah the British people who left Britain and came to Ireland and took other people's property were reluctant to leave or give back what was stolen. You glossed over that small but quite important fact
@tcw_6609
@tcw_6609 4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe they just didnt want to be homeless and lose the home they have had for hundreds of years ...
@jeelianbb6405
@jeelianbb6405 4 жыл бұрын
@@tcw_6609 and now these yanks are in the comments talking about how great the nationalists are and how evil the unionists are.
@bothi00
@bothi00 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an updated version of this now given recent developments
@rileyelliott8063
@rileyelliott8063 5 жыл бұрын
The only reason not to reunify ireland is to protect the ego of a faded empire.
@conorbyrne3348
@conorbyrne3348 5 жыл бұрын
No, its because of the high Protestant pop.
@Infbat97
@Infbat97 5 жыл бұрын
@@conorbyrne3348 then those protestants should probably go back over the sea and get their arses to london or somewhere..but what do i know.. im not british nor irish
@ndspndsp30
@ndspndsp30 5 жыл бұрын
@@conorbyrne3348 so? the war was about irish nationals and british nationals the religion crap was forced by the british. before the war many protestan were pro ireland by english made it seem like irish wanted to kill protestans and vice versa instead of just being a war for the reunification of ireland.
@itierney
@itierney 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a provocative thing to say, but its not the whole truth. I think Britain would of been happy to get out of Ulster years ago. Britain was worried that another civil war in Ireland could spread across the Island, into Scotland and the UK. We must be heal the wounds between the Catholic and Protestant communities. We must unite communities BEFORE we unite the Island.
@itierney
@itierney 5 жыл бұрын
M K Those Protestants have been there since the 1600’s. The 1798 rebellion in Ireland was lead by Protestants. Irish people are not and should never be anti Protestant.
@vtheteenagewitch
@vtheteenagewitch 6 жыл бұрын
Ireland rarely gets the spotlight. Nice to change things up.
@astronomydamage1891
@astronomydamage1891 6 жыл бұрын
TheValerieLorenzo Especially Northen Ireland
@seandevine2807
@seandevine2807 6 жыл бұрын
TheValerieLorenzo exactly what I thought, really happy to be represented lol
@mrhoppy_9724
@mrhoppy_9724 6 жыл бұрын
TheValerieLorenzo Ireland isn’t important enough to deserve the spotlight. Pathetic excuse for a country
@drumclaypete
@drumclaypete 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Russell and where are you from? Sounds like you’re a bit intimidated by Ireland
@Locutus
@Locutus 6 жыл бұрын
I agree Alex.
@kenjidayan7579
@kenjidayan7579 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the scottish feel about north ireland just being able to leave.
@jb2435
@jb2435 3 жыл бұрын
I geuss there's abig difference in the case or ni leaving and scotland it's more complicated
@ninjacell2999
@ninjacell2999 3 жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland can only leave when it has a referendum, the same as Scotland. In fact Scotland's referendum was 6 years ago which is way more recent. Imo Scotland is far more likely to leave.
@shaunamcconnoran6007
@shaunamcconnoran6007 3 жыл бұрын
i left a reply to this and it got taken down?
@stevenmcalister826
@stevenmcalister826 3 жыл бұрын
@@ninjacell2999 Northern Ireland’s referendum can’t be stopped by parliament, Scotland’s can. There’s a difference.
@ninjacell2999
@ninjacell2999 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenmcalister826 well there's a slight difference between NI and Scotland. Either way OP implies that Scottish people just necessarily all want to leave which is untrue
@ooadarshoo
@ooadarshoo 3 жыл бұрын
Who else got this in their recommendations after 2 years.
@Sir_Sunday
@Sir_Sunday 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope Northern Ireland becomes part of Ireland
@XxRemixerzxX
@XxRemixerzxX 5 жыл бұрын
I really hope Ireland gets another famine
@neats5815
@neats5815 5 жыл бұрын
It is Ireland, not a part of it. what a stupid comment.
@neats5815
@neats5815 5 жыл бұрын
Do you live here! @flip inheck
@neats5815
@neats5815 5 жыл бұрын
@flip inheck And history is obviously not yours!
@Sir_Sunday
@Sir_Sunday 5 жыл бұрын
Anita Leahy I mean I hope north and the republic get reunited as in my opinion Northern Ireland is Ireland not Britain
@hughdunne1669
@hughdunne1669 5 жыл бұрын
Couple of points: 1: A lot of people have the idea that the border was to separate catholics from protestants. In fact Britain drew the border so as to maximize the area under British control subject to a (slim) protestant majority. 2: Protestants are concentrated in the area around Belfast. The border region is overwhelmingly catholic. Now try bringing up the border in Google maps and zooming in. It's a mess! If it was a straight line it would be less than 100 miles long, but it is over 310 miles long because of the insane way it loops around and doubles back on itself. 3: As a consequence of #2, if the border is closed or militarized it overwhelmingly hurts the catholic population who live along it. Farmers have their houses cut off from their farms, people who live just outside a village are cut off from it and have to travel long distances to buy groceries, etc. There are some places where you can travel 5 miles down a road and cross the border a dozen times. 4: It's not just about the border. Because of EU membership, Britain was forced by the European Court of Justice to grant civil rights to catholics and to incorporate the court's rulings into its laws, and this went a long way towards making peace possible. When Britain leaves the EU, a whole framework of human rights is swept away overnight. 5: Some people say reunification is inevitable because catholics are "outbreeding" protestants. First, this is a very insulting stereotypes and only stokes fear and hatred among protestant extremists. Secondly, the reason reunification is inevitable is that young protestants are more secular and less fanatical than their parents. They've been brought up to believe that the Republic is a backward papist cesspit, but when they look across the border they see a modern, progressive and diverse country, unlike the time-warped one-party and one-religion state the DUP (protestant extremist party) wants to perpetuate, with its ban on abortion, gay marriage etc. And even some of the older generation of protestants are waking up and realizing that London never cared about them, it was just playing the "Orange card" and Brexit is more important to it than maintaining the union.
@rodrigorodriguez7542
@rodrigorodriguez7542 5 жыл бұрын
your comment is famous
@rasoulkailani8345
@rasoulkailani8345 5 жыл бұрын
Here from the five million subscriber video
@BlitzAc3
@BlitzAc3 5 жыл бұрын
I'm here from the 5 million subs video too. Personally got pissed off enough at how the video keeps cutting parts of this comment and sprinkling them throughout the video, when I just want to read the comment in its entirety to come here and look for it
@ParallaxPromotions
@ParallaxPromotions 5 жыл бұрын
Chua Wei Liang cuz lets face it, it’s long and redundant, and aint nobody got time for dat shiet in a celebration video
@williamfrancis5367
@williamfrancis5367 5 жыл бұрын
1) Nope Protestants outnumbered Catholics two to one in northern Ireland throughout the late 19th century and up until 1960s, and modern day northern Ireland is actually smaller than Ulster ( that's why some Ulster unionists have a grudge against the British government for betraying Ulster apparently). 2- 5 are pretty much spot on.
@shmoba
@shmoba 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way vox has just taught me everything I learnt in school for over 10 years and they did it in 7 minutes, schools need to change ☘️ 🇮🇪
@31ll087
@31ll087 3 жыл бұрын
Step 1: Make Irish a voluntary subject to learn.
@nou2923
@nou2923 3 жыл бұрын
@@31ll087 Ireland doesn’t have much history
@aislingmckeon1755
@aislingmckeon1755 3 жыл бұрын
@@nou2923 ireland has lots of historyb
@nou2923
@nou2923 3 жыл бұрын
@@aislingmckeon1755 False, Irish history is mostly british history
@aislingmckeon1755
@aislingmckeon1755 3 жыл бұрын
@@nou2923 no its not I've done irish history for more than 15 years there's a lot of it its just taught terribly in schools
@williamhansen9456
@williamhansen9456 4 жыл бұрын
"Northern Ireland was overwhelmingly in favour of remaining"[in the EU] *56% vs 44%.... OVERWHELMINGLY* ?!?!?
@cinderball1135
@cinderball1135 4 жыл бұрын
A bigger margin than the overall result in favour of Leave (52% vs 48%) - and people keep describing *that* result as "overwhelming"... so you tell me.
@salhjasa
@salhjasa 4 жыл бұрын
Is a double digit margin so yes is overwhelming
@pvkjhilk8323
@pvkjhilk8323 4 жыл бұрын
seems odd considering the Brits where importing a new religious movement to further divide people
@ng2227
@ng2227 4 жыл бұрын
more than 52-48 I guess
@19grand
@19grand 3 жыл бұрын
10% more.
@DavidHoughton17
@DavidHoughton17 6 жыл бұрын
Of there is an Irish Unification, This will lead to Scottish independence. Brexit will go down in history as to what broke up the United Kingdom which already is so divided. Thanks Brexitters
@popcornfilms1
@popcornfilms1 6 жыл бұрын
What a sad end
@borakaraca9788
@borakaraca9788 6 жыл бұрын
if irish people have a brain, they should stay uk. scotland is weak wales is weak ıreland is weak england is weak BUT uk is strong
@borakaraca9788
@borakaraca9788 6 жыл бұрын
There is a proverb in my country "bir elin nesi var iki elin sesi var" it means two heads are better than one or if we are united we are strong. look at the united states of america, there is a lot of states in the usa and they are happy and strong if california was a country it has smaller military and smaller economy. briefly union is better than separatism
@borakaraca9788
@borakaraca9788 6 жыл бұрын
they can support themselves economically ? UK is the 5th economy in the world but ıreland not even in the top 10. UK is the 5th military in the world but ireland not even in the top 10 absolutely union is strong and better
@spaceleopard6127
@spaceleopard6127 6 жыл бұрын
No problem. Cry more
@Number-rz3jc
@Number-rz3jc 5 жыл бұрын
A united Ireland is the only sensible thing to promote.
@7ElevenAlphaCentauri
@7ElevenAlphaCentauri 5 жыл бұрын
Protestant Christians would never live under catholic rule.
@KingAgniKai
@KingAgniKai 5 жыл бұрын
They can just move to the UK
@mrhoppy_9724
@mrhoppy_9724 5 жыл бұрын
KVFutureGamer it isn’t religious in nature.
@mrhoppy_9724
@mrhoppy_9724 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Browne no Jason, it isn’t sensible at all. The Republic can barely handle itself, it’s too incompetent to handle another semi sovereign state dumped on top of it
@redhot1907
@redhot1907 5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Coilin101
@Coilin101 4 жыл бұрын
Another big thing was British as Army killing civilians and also how the British government wouldn't let Catholics and nationalists vote and also how they where being paid half for the same job as a Protestant or unionist
@menjivarTv
@menjivarTv 3 жыл бұрын
Mmm good analysis, considering it has come true this month
@Prauwlet213
@Prauwlet213 3 жыл бұрын
what has?
@marykatekelly4716
@marykatekelly4716 3 жыл бұрын
@@Prauwlet213 Violence, brexit has created a customs border in the Irish Sea, leaving unionists feeling cut off from Britain, so they have decided to riot and republicans have began to respond
@rare9931
@rare9931 3 жыл бұрын
@@marykatekelly4716 i didn't knew why is no one talking about that?
@tronalddump5447
@tronalddump5447 5 жыл бұрын
SIMPLE SOLUTION: UNITED IRELAND
@CatholicWeeb
@CatholicWeeb 5 жыл бұрын
*THE EMERALD ISLE SHALL RISE FROM THE ASHES!!!*
@CaptainX2012
@CaptainX2012 5 жыл бұрын
Not simple.
@octowuss1888
@octowuss1888 5 жыл бұрын
SIMPLE SOLUTION: IRELAND LEAVES EU
@cantspeakcantspeak79
@cantspeakcantspeak79 5 жыл бұрын
@@octowuss1888 Great job, you just made an crisis between UK and Ireland. *CLAP* *CLAP*
@billmurray9485
@billmurray9485 5 жыл бұрын
If the north want it then yes, but if they don't then they stay. But why would they want to unite with a country that has to ask the RAF to patrol its own airspace?
@barmybarmecide5390
@barmybarmecide5390 6 жыл бұрын
Scotland was even more emphatic about staying in the EU that Northern Ireland, by 68%. Would you consider doing an episode on Scotland, Brexit and the Independence movement?
@tbxmxdog9187
@tbxmxdog9187 6 жыл бұрын
Barmy Barmecide I would vote for Scottish Independence but never for the SNP with there Liberal views .
@ScaroRussell
@ScaroRussell 6 жыл бұрын
The SNP are pretty socialist.
@secularataturkist4674
@secularataturkist4674 6 жыл бұрын
Gaby Gaby idiot
@tbxmxdog9187
@tbxmxdog9187 6 жыл бұрын
Mighty Imperium Making your own laws is stupid?
@barmybarmecide5390
@barmybarmecide5390 6 жыл бұрын
@@tbxmxdog9187 Since when did we not make our own laws? We vote for our MEPs and they represent us at the European Parliament, and they're the ones who want the higher food standard and ease of travel that the EU brings us (not to mention the money that's granted to us for cultural development by several EU organisations). The only parliament that votes on laws then foists those laws on us without us having a say-so is Westminster
@Zapatabone
@Zapatabone 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Unionist if Northern Ireland is not Irish then why is it called Northern IRELAND, checkmate Unionist
@Jacob-nc6nc
@Jacob-nc6nc 4 жыл бұрын
Then why is it called the British Isles
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jacob-nc6nc it's not, the Irish and British governments agreed to not use that term Because it offends many people and instead replace it with something like"anglo-celtic ilses", "Atlantic peninsula", pretonic ilses ect
@icemanire5467
@icemanire5467 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jacob-nc6nc Not an accepted or used term in Ireland. It originates for the island of Ireland being archipelago of the island of Britain nothing to do with anything cultural.
@lmaohamish
@lmaohamish 4 жыл бұрын
Right I'm Scottish and personally I think that Ireland should just unify but that's like saying that South Sudan should be part of Sudan because it has Sudan in its name
@stevenmcalister826
@stevenmcalister826 3 жыл бұрын
@@lmaohamish seems legit to me, I say unite them
@finlayross7304
@finlayross7304 3 жыл бұрын
The really bad thing is that Northern Ireland and Scotland Overwhelmingly voted against BREXIT but England forced the other 2 countries out. Which will destroy Scotland economy.
@stevenmcalister826
@stevenmcalister826 3 жыл бұрын
Wales voted leave
@stevenmcalister826
@stevenmcalister826 3 жыл бұрын
@Zaarker The UK I’m guessing.
@p.enigma2365
@p.enigma2365 5 жыл бұрын
As a Korean, having grand parents who were under harsh Japanese rule for 3.5 decades, I feel big sympathy for people of the Republic of Ireland. I hope that there won't be any conflicts in the Ireland ever again by reunification led by Republic of Ireland.
@danzbeard
@danzbeard 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, it's quite interesting, to say the least.
@peteard5089
@peteard5089 5 жыл бұрын
Vox = Globalist shill Amazingly before the totalitarian EU (who by the way is attacking French dissidents as we watch this) there was a peace. The EU has no part in this freedom. This is purely propaganda to keep the trilateral commissions goal of world domination alive.
@queenapryllm8454
@queenapryllm8454 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining for folks outside of Ireland and UK . I ran into people who had no clue about the N.I history and the troubles
@hellogic1964
@hellogic1964 4 жыл бұрын
26 + 6 = ? IreLand : Answer is 1!
@guilhermecastrolimadasilva7611
@guilhermecastrolimadasilva7611 4 жыл бұрын
What
@CatholicWeeb
@CatholicWeeb 3 жыл бұрын
26+6=1 is a common saying from the Provisional IRA. It meant: 26= Republic of Ireland + 6= Northern Ireland = 1 United Ireland
@cresenter150
@cresenter150 3 жыл бұрын
@@Account-jn7xu 26 is the number of counties in Ireland and 6 is the number of counties in Northern Ireland.
@adamender9092
@adamender9092 3 жыл бұрын
@@guilhermecastrolimadasilva7611 There is 26 counties in the republic and 6 in the north
@samanthashaughnessy8650
@samanthashaughnessy8650 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion brexit is a lose-lose situation for everyone. ...
@afonsords
@afonsords 5 жыл бұрын
You're right.
@pachioni7943
@pachioni7943 5 жыл бұрын
That's true.
@alanbrooke144
@alanbrooke144 5 жыл бұрын
Because being able to govern your own affairs is clearly a bad thing right?
@techyn8502
@techyn8502 5 жыл бұрын
Not everyone looses. I mean now we get to deregulate food safety, so for people wanting to gamble their lives on chicken, it's a win.
@Mike-jv9cl
@Mike-jv9cl 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. We might not leave at all at this rate.
@justinspeaks.1652
@justinspeaks.1652 6 жыл бұрын
Northern Ireland was OVERWHELMINGLY IN FAVOR OF REMAINING *Only 56% wanted to remain* M8 that's a majority yes but not "overwhelming" by any means.
@morgoth615
@morgoth615 6 жыл бұрын
No that's pretty high. When referring to populations of countries, you will rarely get a statistic that is something 60+, so 56 is def high. Maybe not "overwhelming" (but no fault in using it), but def very high
@MARGARELON
@MARGARELON 6 жыл бұрын
Hm, I my opinion 12% difference is quite a bit more than 4%. But the main thing is: the 4% will get their will. The 12% - will not. That will breed resentment, especially since the Pro-Brexit people always point out, that you have to respect democracy and the will of the majority. What about the will of the northern irish majority? It would be historical irony if Brexit, which invoked nationalism to break away from the European Union, would end up invoking irish nationalism and break the British Union.
@user-fv7lq1ur9p
@user-fv7lq1ur9p 6 жыл бұрын
And Brexiteers' propaganda works in the opposite way. 52% vs 48% = WILL OF THE PEOPLE! And another referendum to clarify the public's wishes on Brexit is somehow anti-democratic.
@marvinmakleii2692
@marvinmakleii2692 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking
@petern1938
@petern1938 5 жыл бұрын
re -Northern Ireland was OVERWHELMINGLY IN FAVOR OF REMAINING It's also worth pointing out that Northern Ireland is not a member of the EU (any more than Scotland is), the UK is the member state and the UK voted to leave. IF Scotland or NI want to join the EU they would first need to decide to leave the UK.
@broccolin
@broccolin 4 жыл бұрын
i just think UK should give northern ireland to ireland
@strider029
@strider029 4 жыл бұрын
I think it is not UK's decision to give Ireland, it is Northern Ireland's decision to reunify with the republic south.
@JaeDisemba
@JaeDisemba 4 жыл бұрын
Irish citizens will vote to leave Britain in the next referendum, should be 2022
@TheWrensHouse
@TheWrensHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Ireland had a British border forced on it!! The borders within the Great Britain is not the same. NI was created by British oppression. Ireland did not want NI. Look up Ulster plantations and the ruling British (Protestant) were no better than Appartied. NI was not democratic in creation. The ruling british in NI held all the jobs and political hierarchy the police too... seriously the abuse needs to be portrayed discussed and owned by British. This includes Scotland who were at the heart of Ulster plantations and colonialism they were active not passive in its creation. The worst thing ... is the ignorance. The British border in Ireland was created by the British not the Irish.
@colmhearty434
@colmhearty434 6 жыл бұрын
Come on United ireland 🇮🇪
@colmhearty434
@colmhearty434 6 жыл бұрын
How is it ripping up the GFA as it clearly states that if the majority of the people of Northern wished to join the the republic, both governments will see this through. I’m not saying that it won’t be easy of reunification
@kerchtrucking
@kerchtrucking 6 жыл бұрын
no thanks
@CaptainX2012
@CaptainX2012 6 жыл бұрын
And destroy unionist identity?
@CaptainX2012
@CaptainX2012 6 жыл бұрын
@@carlnew2829 I would actually rather do that than reunite with them. They want rid of our identity.
@aislings8280
@aislings8280 5 жыл бұрын
Carl New it wouldn’t end in violence. If NI vote democratically to be reunified with Ireland that’s what will happen
@ziljin
@ziljin 6 жыл бұрын
Free Ireland, Scotland and Wales!
@NUFCOfficial
@NUFCOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
ziljin why?
@marcelocrespo5882
@marcelocrespo5882 6 жыл бұрын
stilted rumpskin Ireland would ve one again
@Salehxd
@Salehxd 6 жыл бұрын
flip inheck you know right that around 78 % of Ireland is Roman Catholic
@pronumeral1446
@pronumeral1446 6 жыл бұрын
flip inheck - you are an idiot. Ireland is 83.9% Christian and only 1.3% Muslim. 87% of their population are Irish nationals, 2.5% UK, 6.8% other Europeans. Only 2.5% of the population are from Asia and Africa. No the EU is NOT forcing Ireland to take any immigrants, let alone 1 million non-EU migrants. That is a complete load of bullshit. Stop making up bigoted lies.
@SkyForceOne2
@SkyForceOne2 6 жыл бұрын
+blacktihertheone you have no clue about history. There is no reason why they should be independant, it grants them nothing except maybe a misplaced ego boost.
@shahrukh88
@shahrukh88 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that overwhelming is actually 54%
@yoced8213
@yoced8213 4 жыл бұрын
53% neck and neck 54% freakin land slide
@vishvice12
@vishvice12 4 жыл бұрын
Vox's agenda
@fatfish2066
@fatfish2066 3 жыл бұрын
Their is like 5 guys at most in Northern Ireland so yes it is
@luishernandezblonde
@luishernandezblonde 3 жыл бұрын
We all know Britain is a smarter and more thuggish version of Russia. Maybe Britain needs to give back Northern Ireland to Irish people.
@harleyokeefe5193
@harleyokeefe5193 2 жыл бұрын
And just ignore the vast majority of northern Irish people who don’t want to be in the ROI and want to be in the U.K.?
@clippedhussar8353
@clippedhussar8353 6 жыл бұрын
Why brexit can't work Well, summarized
@Celcos
@Celcos 6 жыл бұрын
Ken M? Is that you?
@cooperguy
@cooperguy 6 жыл бұрын
@1984 IsHere The UK begged to join and applied multiple times
@Mysticsquids
@Mysticsquids 6 жыл бұрын
Kier_C Are you for real? UK was one of the Countries who created it in the first place. Fool
@torrinwilkins7210
@torrinwilkins7210 6 жыл бұрын
The UK was one of the countries that originally created EFTA, it wasn't a founding member of the EU.
@mikeoxsmal8022
@mikeoxsmal8022 6 жыл бұрын
Will Briggs well a soft brexit
@daniel-zb7dy
@daniel-zb7dy 6 жыл бұрын
me gran and grandad are irish catholics who moved to england from donegal and were hated by the neighbors who ended up throwing bricks through their windows and their car tired slashed
@msxyz7364
@msxyz7364 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel JG Donegal is a part of the republic of Ireland, it never experienced terrorism.. Aside from acting as a passageway for Ira ghouls to creep over into the state of northern Ireland to kill or inflict harm upon Northern Irish British people.
@magicrulz101
@magicrulz101 6 жыл бұрын
ms xyz: there is no such thing as a northern Irish British person, Irish people are from the island of Ireland and British people are from the island of Britain.
@msxyz7364
@msxyz7364 6 жыл бұрын
magicrulz101 according to whom? No clue what you are or where your from.. Whatever the case may be - you're far from an officially appointed spokesperson for all inhabitants of the aforementioned location. Therefore grossly unqualified to make such remarks.
@magicrulz101
@magicrulz101 6 жыл бұрын
ms xyz: if you’re from the island of Ireland you are Irish by definition, if you are from the island of Great Britain you are British by definition... some in Northern Ireland may be of British planter decent but they are still Irish born and bred and the same goes for people of Irish decent in Britain, they are British born and bred.
@argadargad9128
@argadargad9128 6 жыл бұрын
but the British aren't known to be religious, so what's up with the hate of ppl of a diff sect
@kaikefernandes6413
@kaikefernandes6413 4 жыл бұрын
So if Northern Ireland reunite with the Ireland than the United Kingdom is no longer a United Kingdom and just Great Britain?
@twat240
@twat240 4 жыл бұрын
Kaike Fernandes I don’t think so? Since we have places like Gibraltar and a few protectorates, I though that changed things? Could be wrong.
@JamesHussey404
@JamesHussey404 4 жыл бұрын
No the offcial name is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland so if a united Ireland happens it'll just be The United Kingdom of great Britain.
@adhamhmacconchobhair7565
@adhamhmacconchobhair7565 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but it's likely Scotland will leave the UK before northern Ireland so it won't be Britain either
@davidbunting4045
@davidbunting4045 3 жыл бұрын
@Evan Scollan not really not all nationalist would vote for United Ireland because it's gonna cause the troubles again
@stevenmcalister826
@stevenmcalister826 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbunting4045 why would you call yourself a nationalist and vote to stay in the UK?
@idkwhatnametochoose6197
@idkwhatnametochoose6197 3 жыл бұрын
🇪🇺: Want Brexit? 🇬🇧: Yes 🇪🇺: Want A Hard Border? 🇬🇧: No! 🇪🇺: Want To Give Up Northern Ireland? 🇬🇧: Nope! 🇪🇺: You Wanna Stay Here? 🇬🇧: What No! 🇪🇺: So What Can I Do... Ah! You Wanna Invade Ireland? 🇬🇧: Yes! 🇮🇪: Wait What? 🇪🇺: Bye! 🇮🇪: UK Why Are You Staring At Me?
@lochness96
@lochness96 6 жыл бұрын
no mention on the plantation... bit of a shame also Ireland wasn't granted independence, we won a war of independence for are freedom.
@mikelitorous5570
@mikelitorous5570 5 жыл бұрын
LochNess 96 there was no Irish war of independence.
@mobrekords2519
@mobrekords2519 5 жыл бұрын
eh idk easter rising 1916
@mobrekords2519
@mobrekords2519 5 жыл бұрын
I mean it lead to something right, sacrifices were made and now theyre independent
@mobrekords2519
@mobrekords2519 5 жыл бұрын
Cliff Smith cause realistically England would not have been able to hold on to Ireland, independence was inevitable
@aislings8280
@aislings8280 5 жыл бұрын
Cliff Smith England sold all the food we had during the famine and our population dropped from 8 million to 4 million and now it’s only just at 5 million
@compassionatecurmudgeon7025
@compassionatecurmudgeon7025 6 жыл бұрын
Ya'll gotta be careful with your use of the term "overwhelmingly" to describe a 56% majority. 56% is at best a "statistically significant" majority. It hurts the credibility of the channel to be so dramatic, though to your credit you did show the numbers on screen.
@plum_bit
@plum_bit 6 жыл бұрын
Vox is biased as hell in a lot of their videos. How they have any credibility left at all astounds me.
@tiernandevine7395
@tiernandevine7395 6 жыл бұрын
Compassionate Curmudgeon Yeah, anything to do with politics on Vox is usually biased af, they also didn't mention the fact that if Nationalist and Unionist birth rates in NI remain the same it could be 50:50 by 2022.
@allnamesaretaken
@allnamesaretaken 6 жыл бұрын
Americans are dramatic about everything. I don't think they know they are doing it.
@andrea_decandia
@andrea_decandia 6 жыл бұрын
completely agree. this stood out to me in an otherwise good video
@agusti92
@agusti92 6 жыл бұрын
lol, that would be relevant if this was a video about projecting scenarios, but it's not. It's just an introductory video. Stop fishing for excuses to push your beliefs.
@omaronnyoutube
@omaronnyoutube 3 жыл бұрын
MALAY SUBTITLES : Part 2 of 2 04:30 "Melancarkan semula perdebatan sengit mengenai masa depan Ireland Utara." 04:33 "Kerana kedua-duanya adalah anggota Kesatuan Eropah. 04:35 Tetapi ketika Britain menarik diri dari EU, " 04:37 "Ia kini menjadi sempadan luar EU dan persoalannya, 04:40 adakah kita memasang wayar berduri lagi? Askar? Sekurang-kurangnya akan ada sempadan khusus. " 04:45 Pada bulan Jun 2016, UK memilih untuk meninggalkan EU, walaupun Ireland Utara sangat luar biasa 04:50 memihak kepada baki. 04:53 Hujah Inggeris yang menyokong Brexit adalah untuk mengawal sempadan nasionalnya sendiri - tetapi 04:57 tidak banyak disebut mengenai sempadan Irelandnya pada masa itu. 05:00 Itu berubah ketika UK dan EU memulakan rundingan - status sempadan Ireland menjadi satu 05:05 daripada tiga perkara pertama yang perlu difikirkan. 05:07 Sekarang, lebih dari setahun kemudian, ia masih belum dapat diselesaikan. 05:10 Tetapi ada beberapa pilihan: Inggeris dapat menerapkan kembali perbatasan keras dengan membawa 05:15 kembali polis dan tembok. 05:16 Tetapi itu akan mengasingkan populasi Nasionalis di Ireland Utara. 05:22 Sebagai alternatif, mereka boleh meletakkan perbatasan di sini, meninggalkan Ireland Utara di Kesatuan Kastam EU, 05:26 tetapi memisahkannya dari tanah besar Inggeris. 05:29 Tetapi ini akan mengkhianati golongan Unionis. 05:31 Lihat, sama ada, kedua-dua pilihan ini berisiko melanggar Perjanjian Good Friday. 05:35 Pilihan ketiga adalah untuk Inggeris tinggal di Kesatuan Kastam EU yang bermaksud tidak memerlukannya 05:40 sempadan kastam, tetapi itu tidak dapat diterima untuk Brexiters dalam kerajaan UK, yang secara khusus 05:45 mahukan kawalan ke atas sempadan mereka sendiri. 05:48 Inggeris perlu meletakkan sempadan di suatu tempat tetapi tidak dapat memutuskan di mana. 05:54 "Mengenai perbatasan antara Ireland Utara dan Ireland, 05:57 kita tidak akan kembali ke perbatasan keras antara Ireland Utara 05:59 dan Ireland ”. 06:00 "Tetapi cadangan bahawa harus ada perbatasan di bawah Laut Irlandia, 06:03 memisahkan Ireland Utara dari yang lain 06:05 United Kingdom sama sekali tidak dapat diterima. " 06:08 "Kami tidak akan bergabung dalam serikat kastam, kami tidak akan 06:10 berada di Kesatuan Kastam, kerana jika kita berada, itu akan menghalang kita 06:15 daripada dapat mengikuti dasar perdagangan bebas. " 06:18 Sekarang, ada pilihan keempat yang sesuai dengan Perjanjian Good Friday - itu 06:22 idea penyatuan semula. 06:24 Pada masa lalu ketika Ireland dan UK berada di EU dan sempadannya terbuka; di sana 06:29 sedikit insentif bagi Ireland Utara untuk memilih untuk bersatu semula dengan Republik Ireland. 06:33 Tetapi jika Inggeris memilih pilihan sempadan keras, Ireland Utara akan terpencil 06:37 dan satu-satunya cara untuk bergabung semula dengan EU adalah melalui penyatuan semula. 06:41 Biasanya, ini akan menjadi kemenangan besar bagi Nasionalis dan kerugian bagi Unionists. 06:47 Tetapi Brexit nampaknya telah mengubah beberapa pendapat. 06:49 Satu tinjauan baru-baru ini mendapati bahawa 28% responden yang menyokong tempat Ireland Utara di 06:54 Inggeris sekarang akan memilih untuk bergabung dengan Republik Ireland. 06:59 Walaupun bukan penyelesaian yang sempurna, ia akan memberi suara kepada Ireland Utara mengenai tempatnya sendiri 07:02 di Eropah; suara yang hampir tidak pernah didengar setakat ini.
@zaqarius
@zaqarius 3 жыл бұрын
So this was very accurate as of last week
@cameronsmith8242
@cameronsmith8242 6 жыл бұрын
Education in England regarding our history with Ireland is severely lacking. Most English kids finish school without knowing the first thing about the situation. Probably same reason we don't learn much about colonisation, the East India company and the opium wars I guess.
@cheeseofultimatedoom
@cheeseofultimatedoom 6 жыл бұрын
Instead we learn random snippits of unrelated world history. It's completely stupid to learn about the Mayans and know NOTHING about your own country's history and relationships with others.
@jaojao1768
@jaojao1768 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I had no idea about that. Kind of like how Finland is barely mentioned in swedish history lessons even though it was part of the country for over 600 years
@drcrow5767
@drcrow5767 6 жыл бұрын
Cameron Smith why would we ever need to learn about that? I’m not gonna go for an interview and go “oh btw Britain had the biggest empire ever and took Hong Kong during the opium wars in the 1890s”. I know that, but I’ll never use it
@user-dl2hu3wq6h
@user-dl2hu3wq6h 6 жыл бұрын
Are you even from England?
@evanm.136
@evanm.136 6 жыл бұрын
Most of english history is colonisation, and in irelands case the suppression of a entire culture. A lot of it potrays england as "the bad guy" so i could see why there isnt any in depth explanation of british history in schools.
@Maxuras
@Maxuras 6 жыл бұрын
So, Ireland get's Reunification and Spain gets Gibraltar. Anyone else wanna piece of the UK? It's falling apart.
@paver9661
@paver9661 6 жыл бұрын
Maxuras this is what leftists want
@kayleighredmond3654
@kayleighredmond3654 6 жыл бұрын
To be far, those places didn't belong to the UK to begin with.
@drcrow5767
@drcrow5767 6 жыл бұрын
Maxuras gibbons is British and wants to stay British
@Honking_Goose
@Honking_Goose 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Gibraltar (who did overwhelming vote for remain) do want currently to stay in the UK. If a hard Brexit happens lets see how long that will last...
@rjfaber1991
@rjfaber1991 6 жыл бұрын
+Alex Jones - It's a lot easier for them because they are an overseas territory, so they're not necessarily bound by all aspects of Brexit, and could negotiate a free trade deal independent of Britain proper.
@MegaSkiboy
@MegaSkiboy 4 жыл бұрын
Reunited Ireland and an independent Scotland!
@RackHasAttacked
@RackHasAttacked 3 жыл бұрын
Scotland would collapse after independence lol
@MegaSkiboy
@MegaSkiboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@RackHasAttacked seriously doubt it. It wouldn't be amazing economically but I doubt things will turn out like South Sudan.
@RackHasAttacked
@RackHasAttacked 3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaSkiboy Scotland relies too much on England. Even if the EU pours hundreds of billions of dollars into Scotland it will problay collapse
@MegaSkiboy
@MegaSkiboy 3 жыл бұрын
@@RackHasAttacked if Scotland got billions from the EU then they wouldn't have a problem surviving.
@RackHasAttacked
@RackHasAttacked 3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaSkiboy the Scottish don't have anything to sell
@levantq5972
@levantq5972 3 жыл бұрын
ireland unite and join eu
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