Watch the episode of Mythbusters where Jamie was buried in a steel casket and no vault. They didn't even completely bury him, and they had to dig him out because the casket was buckling under pressure. Jamie was a brave man to do that. I think he was rattled as well.

If you bury your dead in shrouds, they become part of the subsoil.

In the 60s tell me what vaults thay used i know ........

Thats funny cause i work for a trigaurd vault company and i would never recommend the wilbert way of doing things.

@@user-oz9sb3kf4u I also work for a independent vault company and I hear Wilbert is a picky and hard company to work for. I'm good where I'm at

This entire industry is a waste.

True!!

It’s not about that, several states, including Illinois, require vaults.

They do this job in the most unsafest way possible. Im sorry you havent seen how other vault companies do their job.

Andres Barnett wielded

Welded wire mesh.

Read Jessica Mitford's Tje American Way of Death. American practices are the result of consumer excesses of the Industrial Revolution and egi-based advertising.

A vault helps to keep the surface of the grass from settling and becoming bumpy.

Expensive caskets, burial vaults, burial plot$ are all a colossal rip off! You’re disposing of a dead body that will decompose not preparing an Egyptian Pharaoh for the afterlife! Even those Pharaoh’s never ‘rose from the dead days later!

I think I might switch to Clark. For one, their logic makes sense: the steel is sealed all the way around while Wilbert shows this picture of a vault with water hovering in the middle (protected area). Many cemeteries are seaping with water; Rosemount in Jersey for example. A Wilbert can't possibly protect against that. Also, Clark gives you a registration number for their warranty program. I don't think Wilbert does that. Wilbert Reps tried to downplay my complaint that a corner of the concrete was damaged on my Uncle's Bronze Triune. They gave me typical PR responses. I was not happy with them.

@@id3774 why this obsession with preventing dead bodies from completing their natural decomposition? Until the time of the Civil War, that was everyone's expectation.

@@WilliamRing45 exactly right this illogical denial of the inevitable decay is destroying our planet while fattening the pockets of funeral directors and death industry

At Wilbert we have several different vaults depending on the families needs and wants. The vault you saw with water in it is a concrete non sealing vault. We make the Monticello and continental, bronze and stainless steel tribune. Those seal and when sealed ain't opening

@@sborn1571 okay but I was talking about the regular steel burial vaults. The sides and top are made together and the bottom is separate and you put the bottom in the ground first and then the casket and Lower the vault down on to the bottom it makes a pressure type seal to keep out the water.. they don't offer the type you have here

@@sborn1571 no they make steel burial vault Clark vaults makes them and several other do to. I saw that plastic vault on you tube it doesn't look like much. Probably thin plastic.. but I take it that Wilbert doesn't manufacturer steel burial vault. We have the steel burial vault were I live they can order different but they use steel here.

Yes

@ I don't remember cause it was only a week, but a fare wage.

Get real. No one can guarantee anything for a hundred years. Are you going to be around 100 years from now to check things out? Didn't think so.

The concrete actually gets stronger the longer it is in the ground, and with the sealant that goes in between the lid and the vault, nothing can penetrate the interior of the vault, and of course with a gasketed casket, that just ensures the fact that no elements of any kind will permeate the interior of the casket. My mother was placed in a Monticello vault over 40 years ago, and I'd like to think she looks as good today, as she did when we buried her in 1982.

@@markdrennen6888 This post is so full of insidious falsehoods, it nearly brings me to tears knowing that the grieving public gets ripped off every day by this kind of evil salesmanship. 1. Concrete reaches full strength in about 28 days. Any increase in strength beyond this is minor and inconsequential. 2. The sealants or gaskets do not last forever. They dry out and crack over time or degrade when exposed to the repeated presence of water. Once the seals fail, Katie bar the door! In comes the water to rapidly disintegrate the body. 3. The only way water stays out is if the grave is in a cemetery with a perpetually low water table. In that case, see point 4. 4. When the casket is sealed, there is trapped air in the casket. Guess who thrives in air. Aerobic bacteria. If the casket is vented to avoid the buildup of pressure air travels both ways through the vent and trapped air in the vault contributes to decomposition. If the casket is not vented, it explodes (lid pops open) thus allowing more air to accelerate decomposition. 5. There is absolutely no way an embalmed body is preserved indefinitely. Everything is eventually reduced to its fundamental elements. I'm sorry, but don't be delusional. Your mother will not look good after 40 years. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. It's the way of the universe.

they use them so the grave doesnt sink.

You can still do a Shrouded burial in the United States. Look for a Green Cemetery or consider Home Burial which is also legal in most US States 😃 I want to have a Mango tree planted on top of me 🥭 🌳

@@1978mackdaddy Why is it a problem if the grave sinks? Can just top it up with some more soil.

@@SarahlabyrinthLHC You could do that but then the ground starts to lool uneven.. Kind of like a wave. Its best to use a vault.

@@1978mackdaddy They don't use them in my country, at least not with any funeral I have ever been to. And ground is never perfectly flat anyway. But each to his own, I guess.

Agree! It's under the false belief that the casket and the body will remain intact forever. Everything brakes down eventually. I can't begin to imagine what environmental consequences this is doing. I think natural burial is the way to go!

@@martinrow5183 if properly sealed and well embalmed you can expect at least 100 years of preservation. Why you need that is strickly up to the family. Everyone's opinion is correct to them whether it be pro or anti traditional burial. My family has been in the burial manufacturing business for 100 years and have seen many trends over the years. As far as the environmental aspect goes concrete is strickly sand therefore putting a casket inside a vault is inironmentaly friendly. Putting a metal casket directly in the ground it debatable. All materials came from this earth so it's hard to imagine ores that come from the earth can harm it. My opinion only.

@@andybulldog79 The body will soon putrify. It is NOT going to be preserved for 100 years. There are so many bacteria in the stomach and intestines that quickly breaks down. All the vault is doing is keeping all that soup inside. The chemicals from embalming are a disaster for the environment. You will notice they can not say grandma will be preserved. It's all "peace of mind". If spending thousands on a vault makes you happy, then do it. Just don't believe grandma is going to look like her self for very long. Doing this just guarantees there will never be any "ashes to ashes dust to dust". This is why cremation is taking over traditional burial. Green burials are the best.

@@rcomo520 sorry. Didn't realize you had so much experience in embalming and human decay! I have personally seen bodies that were dug up and looked almost identical to the day they were laid to rest besides dryness due to water loss. The oldest being underground for 40 years. No "soup" to be found!

Many cemeteries require one. Another argument is the keeping of fluids and chemicals out of the water table.

This ain’t Dr. Who, you know

the reason why they put the Cement Vaults in the ground before the Casket is too keep the Caskets from rotting out faster. my Sister & Older Brother are in one & im happy to know that their Metal Caskets will be safe for at least 100 yes or so. that's what the Funeral Director told me so i have to believe they know what they are talking about. though because my Sister was Murdered I had to make sure she was buried in that Vault because I was having real bad dreams about the Ppl responsible for her Death would go back and Exhumed her Body & put it in my hallway just to give us a sign that the same thing could happen to any of us. Talk about having P.S.T.D. & Anxiety issues I have been suffering thru this for 30 yrs now.

to prevent the grave from caving in.

@@maryanneroberto4767 I thought I was the only one that went through something like that.

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@@maryanneroberto4767 - get help 🙄

Rabid demands from environmentalists are ruining life on Earth.

Whew❗️. Seriously 👍🥊